Re: [Scottish] Mailing list to web interface

2004-01-07 Thread Ben Thorp




Sorry for not responding to this previously - I think it must have got
caught up in the large amount of work mail I got when I came back from
Christmas.

I think this sounds like a good idea as a replacement for a forum, but bear
in mind that forum traffic/questions tends to be of a slightly different
nature to the current mailing-list type stuff. However, the forum is
currently a) very underused, and b) a feature that is available on numerous
other websites (I for one use the forum at http://www.justlinux.com ), and
thus having this alternate interface would allow for a) a feature that
differentiates us from other sites, and b) for people to receive answers
from the wide range of gurus we have on the mailing list that do not have
ready access/time to constantly check a forum.

My suggestion would be a two-pronged attack:
1. Implement your suggestion, allowing people to post from the webpage to
the list
2. Remove the forum from our website, but have a 'generic' Linux help page,
that points to both the communication methods available for ScotLUG (IRC in
all forms, mailing-list, new interface for mailing list) and a list of good
Linux help pages/forums (justlinux.com, linuxquestions.org etc, etc)

Don't know whether thats enough for you to retract your retraction, but
mebbe...

Ben Thorp




   

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Well, it's good to see such an enthusiastic response from those it
concerns. Other than those who already said 'yeah, that would be good. Why
not ask the list?' on IRC, there has been SFA response from anyone else.
Why bother now? I was inclined to help, but since it would appear that
noone can even be arsed to even reply to an email with one word, I'm
retracting the suggestion.

Regards

Kyle

Kyle Gordon wrote:
>
> Evening all
>
> Ok, following more debates on IRC, it would appear that an effective
method for communicating mailing list data to the scotlug.org.uk website is
required. Since the mailing list is already replicated through gmane, it
has been suggested that a NNTP to Web client is implemented on the scotlug
site, possibly allowing two-way communciation to the list from the site.
>
> So, to summarise...
>
> Mailing list <--> Usenet (Gmane) <--> Site (scotlug.org.uk)
>
> That should kill off the mailing list versus web forums argument, with
the added benefit of Usenet access for those who want it.
>
> All those in favour, say aye...
>
> 'Aye'
>
> Regards
>
> Kyle
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Re: [Scottish] Mailing list to web interface

2004-01-07 Thread tony
If there is this degree of apathy maybe there should be a culling of the email list, 
the registered membership of the website and the list of parked users on IRC, once 
notice has been served of the intent to do so. Those who rejoin say the website, only 
a suggestion, could then decide the future of SLUG. Kyle is right and I too have felt 
the frustration of apathy over the last five years. 


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> Rather strongly put, but i wholeheartedly agree with you, there was much
> bickering over this topic on the mailing list in the past few weeks and
> when a decent suggestion was made about it, no one could be bothered
> speaking up <-- that included me by the way.
> 
> Personally i liked the suggestion, but rarely even read the mailing
> snip*


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Re: [Scottish] Mailing list to web interface

2004-01-07 Thread Allan MacBain
'Aye'

I don't have access to IRC @ work, so the only way I (rarely) take part in 
conversations is by email.  If there was NNTP access available I would use it.

I do, however, lurk a lot 8-)).

As to the monthly meetings, I really would like to do more than just 'meet at the 
pub'.  I enjoy talking to everyone else, but I want more... I want to learn!!

Allan MacBain  (the guy from Ayr)

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:05:42 +, Ben Thorp wrote:
>
>
> Sorry for not responding to this previously - I think it must have
> got caught up in the large amount of work mail I got when I came
> back from Christmas.
>
> I think this sounds like a good idea as a replacement for a forum,
> but bear in mind that forum traffic/questions tends to be of a
> slightly different nature to the current mailing-list type stuff.
> However, the forum is currently a) very underused, and b) a feature
> that is available on numerous other websites (I for one use the
> forum at http://www.justlinux.com ), and thus having this alternate
> interface would allow for a) a feature that differentiates us from
> other sites, and b) for people to receive answers from the wide
> range of gurus we have on the mailing list that do not have ready
> access/time to constantly check a forum.
>
> My suggestion would be a two-pronged attack:
> 1. Implement your suggestion, allowing people to post from the
> webpage to the list
> 2. Remove the forum from our website, but have a 'generic' Linux
> help page, that points to both the communication methods available
> for ScotLUG (IRC in all forms, mailing-list, new interface for
> mailing list) and a list of good Linux help pages/forums
> (justlinux.com, linuxquestions.org etc, etc)
>
> Don't know whether thats enough for you to retract your retraction,
> but mebbe...
>
> Ben Thorp
>
>
> Kyle Gordon
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by:cc:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:  Re: [Scottish] Mailing
> list to web interface
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>
>
> 06-01-04 19:30
> Please respond to
> SLUG-list
>
>
> Well, it's good to see such an enthusiastic response from those it
> concerns. Other than those who already said 'yeah, that would be
> good. Why not ask the list?' on IRC, there has been SFA response
> from anyone else. Why bother now? I was inclined to help, but since
> it would appear that noone can even be arsed to even reply to an
> email with one word, I'm retracting the suggestion.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Kyle
>
>
> Kyle Gordon wrote:
>
>>
>> Evening all
>>
>>
>> Ok, following more debates on IRC, it would appear that an
>> effective
>>
> method for communicating mailing list data to the scotlug.org.uk
> website is required. Since the mailing list is already replicated
> through gmane, it has been suggested that a NNTP to Web client is
> implemented on the scotlug site, possibly allowing two-way
> communciation to the list from the site.
>
>>
>> So, to summarise...
>>
>>
>> Mailing list <--> Usenet (Gmane) <--> Site (scotlug.org.uk)
>>
>>
>> That should kill off the mailing list versus web forums argument,
>> with
>>
> the added benefit of Usenet access for those who want it.
>
>>
>> All those in favour, say aye...
>>
>>
>> 'Aye'
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Kyle


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