[Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve -- --- Dr Steve Logan, engineering software t: 01764-650085 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.bigsmoke.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
Steve Logan wrote: After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve Ah, you dont need to use the machine name when you login. Also, as far as I know you need to add a samba user for the Windows box to authenticate against. Unfortunatly I cannot be more helpful than this - I haven't used samba in quite a while but i'm sure someone else will be able to help nps. Basically yes, your doing something daft but it's a common thing and one that actually stumped me for a while when I first started using samba :) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
William Hamilton wrote: Steve Logan wrote: After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve Ah, you dont need to use the machine name when you login. Also, as far as I know you need to add a samba user for the Windows box to authenticate against. Unfortunatly I cannot be more helpful than this - I haven't used samba in quite a while but i'm sure someone else will be able to help nps. Basically yes, your doing something daft but it's a common thing and one that actually stumped me for a while when I first started using samba :) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Time to stop lurking for me as well and maybe contribute, I had a similiar problem recently between Fedora and XP and all I done was edit my smb.cnf file to the windows workgroup and it worked fine but I also found that iptables was stopping incoming connections as well so it may be worth checking iptables or switching it off for the duration of testing if it is installed and running. Cheers Adam H ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
Unless you're doing cross-domain authentification magick, you don't need to use the machine name on your login, in either the [EMAIL PROTECTED], or domain\user format. As long as you have an account that Samba recognises, then you should be able to log in with just your username. Now, having an account that Samba recognises is another matter. Suse may have some spiffy scripts to synchronise the SMB database with the system database, or it may just leave you high and dry. You can add a user to the Samba database by running smbpasswd - `smbpasswd -a steve` - and then entering in an appropriate password. If the user already exists, then it will just change the password for that user. You also have to have an existing Linux user in the system database with the same username before you make a Samba user - which is why I'm surprised that Suse doesn't synchronise it all automagically for you. If that fails to work, or you've already tried that, send us the most recent logs (grep log file /etc/samba/smb.conf to find out where they're stored) and we can have a look at that. It could be that Windows has some security/encryption options enabled that is confusing Samba Kyle On Monday 05 September 2005 11:45, William Hamilton wrote: Steve Logan wrote: After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve Ah, you dont need to use the machine name when you login. Also, as far as I know you need to add a samba user for the Windows box to authenticate against. Unfortunatly I cannot be more helpful than this - I haven't used samba in quite a while but i'm sure someone else will be able to help nps. Basically yes, your doing something daft but it's a common thing and one that actually stumped me for a while when I first started using samba :) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] opportunities for Scotlug members
Thought this (below) might be of interest to Scotlug members interested communication technology. Also - If anyone wants to come and have a look at the Radius Media lab, all open source and open to members of the Pollokshields community for workshops, just get in touch. cheers hannah + Radius Glasgow is pleased to announce the launch of COMMUNITY GREEN: a communication ideas competition WHO: architects, designers, artists, scientists, technologists and others interested in ideas of what an urban 21st century village green might be. Open to individuals and teams. WHAT: Interdisciplinary ideas competition. Four short listed teams with expertise in both artistic and science/technology fields will develop full proposals/prototypes. From these 4 prototypes/presentations, one entry will be selected for permanent installation/deployment (pending further funding). WHERE: Registered contributors will develop detailed proposals/prototypes for public spaces (whether physical or networked/virtual) of Pollokshields, Glasgow. Short-listed proposals will be exhibited/presented at Radius Glasgow and Glasgow Science Centre. WHEN: Oct 05 Feb 06 WHY: Community Green aims to * Raise awareness about sustainable approaches to building, regenerating and reanimating a community. * Focus attention on the role that digital and other technologies, especially those that have a low environmental impact, can play creatively/artistically in the fostering of greater communication and participation within a community. * Connect, socially and geographically, the diverse areas of the Pollokshields neighbourhood in Glasgows Southside through the use of communication technologies. For More information and details on how to enter go to http://www.mediascot.org/comgreen/ Hannah Clinch Tel: 07780 60 40 31 or 0141 423 9412 Address: Flat 3/2, 21 Boyd st, Glasgow, G42 8AF ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
RE: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
Other way to do it is to enable Swat (samba web administration tool) by going into /etc/xinetd.d/swat and changing disable to enable if required, and also allowing access to another network (or run mozilla locally). This gives you a nice interface (and help) for making configuration changes and also for adding users to the database. Should be preconfigured to look at the suse smb.conf on installation. Darren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Gordon Sent: 05 September 2005 12:13 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question Unless you're doing cross-domain authentification magick, you don't need to use the machine name on your login, in either the [EMAIL PROTECTED], or domain\user format. As long as you have an account that Samba recognises, then you should be able to log in with just your username. Now, having an account that Samba recognises is another matter. Suse may have some spiffy scripts to synchronise the SMB database with the system database, or it may just leave you high and dry. You can add a user to the Samba database by running smbpasswd - `smbpasswd -a steve` - and then entering in an appropriate password. If the user already exists, then it will just change the password for that user. You also have to have an existing Linux user in the system database with the same username before you make a Samba user - which is why I'm surprised that Suse doesn't synchronise it all automagically for you. If that fails to work, or you've already tried that, send us the most recent logs (grep log file /etc/samba/smb.conf to find out where they're stored) and we can have a look at that. It could be that Windows has some security/encryption options enabled that is confusing Samba Kyle On Monday 05 September 2005 11:45, William Hamilton wrote: Steve Logan wrote: After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve Ah, you dont need to use the machine name when you login. Also, as far as I know you need to add a samba user for the Windows box to authenticate against. Unfortunatly I cannot be more helpful than this - I haven't used samba in quite a while but i'm sure someone else will be able to help nps. Basically yes, your doing something daft but it's a common thing and one that actually stumped me for a while when I first started using samba :) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
I usually install 'putty' on windows machines. The pscp lets you copy stuff to Linux without using samba. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html -- Martin ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Hopeless newbie charges on
Flushed with my success earlier today (thank-you folks) I think I'll try a bit harder to get into this Linux malarkey. So - do you have any recommendations for a good not-quite-eedjit book for introducing a moderately expert Windows user to SuSE? My background is engineering and programming rather than networks. However I have built a number of PCs and networks and am (touch wood) not too bad at the hard techy stuff. It seems to me that there's a different mindset that Windows folks needs to be learn to get around a Linux box? Any book recommendations then? Ta Steve (PS I like books cos I can read them on a train). -- --- Dr Steve Logan, engineering software t: 01764-650085 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.bigsmoke.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie charges on
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:50:37PM +0100, Steve Logan wrote: Flushed with my success earlier today (thank-you folks) I think I'll try a bit harder to get into this Linux malarkey. So - do you have any recommendations for a good not-quite-eedjit book for introducing a moderately expert Windows user to SuSE? My background is engineering and programming rather than networks. However I have built a number of PCs and networks and am (touch wood) not too bad at the hard techy stuff. It seems to me that there's a different mindset that Windows folks needs to be learn to get around a Linux box? Any book recommendations then? If you haven't bought the box-set of SuSE pro, then consider getting it. It comes with two very good manuals (100's of pages) which do a very good job of introducing Linux, SuSE and a lot of the tools. I'd hold off getting it for a little while though as SuSE 10 should be out soon-ish. It's only about 45 or 50 quid as I remember, and you get the manuals, some installation support, DVD CD Install media etc. Billy. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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Print off the Documentation from the Open Suse site - http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Documentation On 05/09/05, Billy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:50:37PM +0100, Steve Logan wrote: Flushed with my success earlier today (thank-you folks) I think I'll try a bit harder to get into this Linux malarkey. So - do you have any recommendations for a good not-quite-eedjit book for introducing a moderately expert Windows user to SuSE? My background is engineering and programming rather than networks. However I have built a number of PCs and networks and am (touch wood) not too bad at the hard techy stuff. It seems to me that there's a different mindset that Windows folks needs to be learn to get around a Linux box? Any book recommendations then? If you haven't bought the box-set of SuSE pro, then consider getting it. It comes with two very good manuals (100's of pages) which do a very good job of introducing Linux, SuSE and a lot of the tools. I'd hold off getting it for a little while though as SuSE 10 should be out soon-ish. It's only about 45 or 50 quid as I remember, and you get the manuals, some installation support, DVD CD Install media etc. Billy. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- MrLithic.blogspot.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
s/are fast/have spent too much time unbreaking samba/ Kyle On Monday 05 Sep 2005 14:02, Steve Logan wrote: You chaps are fast! Thanks Kyle, I tried the smbpasswd -a steve and it all works fine now. I've got a user 'steve' with the same password on both Win and SuSe and, having done the smbpasswd thingy, I can get straight in from XP to Suse without doing anything. Hurray. Thanks again... Steve Kyle Gordon wrote: Unless you're doing cross-domain authentification magick, you don't need to use the machine name on your login, in either the [EMAIL PROTECTED], or domain\user format. As long as you have an account that Samba recognises, then you should be able to log in with just your username. Now, having an account that Samba recognises is another matter. Suse may have some spiffy scripts to synchronise the SMB database with the system database, or it may just leave you high and dry. You can add a user to the Samba database by running smbpasswd - `smbpasswd -a steve` - and then entering in an appropriate password. If the user already exists, then it will just change the password for that user. You also have to have an existing Linux user in the system database with the same username before you make a Samba user - which is why I'm surprised that Suse doesn't synchronise it all automagically for you. If that fails to work, or you've already tried that, send us the most recent logs (grep log file /etc/samba/smb.conf to find out where they're stored) and we can have a look at that. It could be that Windows has some security/encryption options enabled that is confusing Samba Kyle On Monday 05 September 2005 11:45, William Hamilton wrote: Steve Logan wrote: After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve Ah, you dont need to use the machine name when you login. Also, as far as I know you need to add a samba user for the Windows box to authenticate against. Unfortunatly I cannot be more helpful than this - I haven't used samba in quite a while but i'm sure someone else will be able to help nps. Basically yes, your doing something daft but it's a common thing and one that actually stumped me for a while when I first started using samba :) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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On Monday 05 Sep 2005 16:50, Steve Logan wrote: Flushed with my success earlier today (thank-you folks) I think I'll try a bit harder to get into this Linux malarkey. So - do you have any recommendations for a good not-quite-eedjit book for introducing a moderately expert Windows user to SuSE? My background is engineering and programming rather than networks. However I have built a number of PCs and networks and am (touch wood) not too bad at the hard techy stuff. It seems to me that there's a different mindset that Windows folks needs to be learn to get around a Linux box? Any book recommendations then? Ta Steve (PS I like books cos I can read them on a train). I can highly recommend Samba-3 By Example, by John H Terpstra ISBN 0131472216 I got mine for $45 at Powells Technical Bookstore last year, but it may be cheaper elsewhere. John H Terpstra is one of the co-founders of Samba, so he knows what he's on about :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] GPG Signing
Is it just me, or are all mails to the list that are GPG signed getting silently dropped? Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] GPG Signing
I don't know - I use GMail :-( On 9/5/05, Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or are all mails to the list that are GPG signed getting silently dropped? Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] GPG Signing
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:22:11PM +0100, William Hamilton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Let's find out - this mail is signed :) Looks like it just hates Kyle ;-) Billy. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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On Monday 05 Sep 2005 16:50, Steve Logan wrote: So - do you have any recommendations for a good not-quite-eedjit book for introducing a moderately expert Windows user to SuSE? It seems to me that there's a different mindset that Windows folks needs to be learn to get around a Linux box? First I would endorse Billy's suggestion of purchasing SuSE 9.3 Pro - I would not wait for 10.0. There is an awful lot of documentation (including books) on the DVDs (handy for reading on trains and ferries) and the paper manuals are just what you need for ploughing in. Personally as a long time SuSE user I would consider then skipping 10.0 and buying the upgrade to 10.1. The upgrades to date have been the same as the full version with the exception of the paper User Guide, but do include the Admin Guide. Yast Online Update or FOU4S (Fast Online Update For SuSE) will keep you up to date on the security front, and can also provide the most recent KDE and Gnome versions. Unix Power Tools from O'Reilly is an enormous collection of basic practical user knowledge and an insight into the Unix way of thinking. The third edition knows about Linux and Xwindows. Very strongly recommended. -- ray ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] GPG Signing
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 05:23, ray wrote: ra I have just sent two signed messages. This is from KMail 1.8.2 (KDE 3.4.2) signed with Inline OpenPGP (deprecated) and This is from KMail 1.8.2 (KDE 3.4.2) signed with OpenPGP/MIME both disappeared. mailman.lug.org.uk seems to be discriminating against Linux users ? -- ray ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
