Re: [Scottish] future meeting idea
So which of you corporate whores is going to fill it out and be our Novell contact? Ben Aidan Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk To Sent by: SLUG-list scottish-bounces@ scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk mailman.lug.org.u cc k Subject Re: [Scottish] future meeting idea 20/09/2005 13:30 Please respond to SLUG-list On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 17:12 +0100, Andrew Calverley wrote: Or Novell-geek looking for free Novell Goodies =0) You should have gone to Brainshare last week ;) - Aidan (corporate whore) -- Aidan Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aidan.skinner.me.uk You'll either be a union man or vote for GH Blair ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie part 2
Steve Logan wrote: Thanks to all who replied to my earlier Samba question... Having had to interrupt my messing about to do some Proper Work for the last couple of weeks I'm back in Hopeless Newbie mode (hereafter contracted to HoNe) and have another batch of (probably trivial) questions. and yes I really have tried to RTFM. Here's what I've got: - a boxed copy of Suse 9.1 which I bought ages ago and have finally installed on a Del PIII 500 with 768MB RAM and a couple of IBM 80GB drives. - Suse manuals for 9.1 - a copy of Suse 9.3 from Linux Something mag this month - a bunch of Oreilly books on Apache. Where I'm having problems: - Conceptual #1. I'm struggling to figure out where Suse/Linux puts things. On XP, on the whole, programs are installed (by default) in c:\Program Files, dlls etc in C:\Windows and subdirs, user data in C:\Documents and settings\User\ and sub dirs. Is there a direct Linux equivalent? And I'm beginning to think that Suse ain't the same as Redhat? Can you give me a HoNe Rule Of Thumb for where to find stuff? *Disclaimer* I do not use Suse too much. However, these are the basics that can work on most RPM distros Usually, programs go into /usr/bin. Sometimes, you will find them in /bin or /usr/local/bin, depending on various issues that are too long winded to explain here :) However, you will also find network servers (called daemons) installed in /usr/sbin, as well as some system utilities, again depending. - Conceptual #2. Being a big Firefox fan I downloaded the RPM from mozilla.org to my desktop (as root) and ran it. It seems to have installed in a directory under the desktop, which, I suspect, isn't correct. Where should I have put it so that all users can run it? Strange! What you can do, is open a command prompt and type rpm -q -a | grep -i firefox This command quries (-q) the RPM database for all (-a) installed packages, with the grep bit only showing the firefox rpm. -i is for case insensitive Then, you can type rpm -q -l Firefox package name where firefox package name is the name that was given in the first command. This will list all the files installed by the firefox RPM and where they are. - I installed Webmin (sort of), ie I downloaded the RPM and double clicked on it. I suspect that I've got another of these strange 'where are things supposed to be' problems because Webmin can't find my Apache 2 install (which I did directly from YaST from the CDs). So, two things (a) is Webmin a Good Thing? (b) What do I need to do to get it working (that's probably a dumb question! I have tried using YaST to install the Webmin from the CD set but YaST appears to bomb out without doing anything). repeat the above, except replace firefox with apache to find out where that is and then webmin to find out where RPM has put that HoNe Q1: How do I uninstall apps? rpm -e package name Or, i suspect YAST will have a listing of all packages installed and you can remove from there HoNe Q2: I've got this Suse 9.3 from the Linux mag. Can I 'install' that over what I've got? Will I lose anything (eg YaST online update or similar? I'm hazy as to what I get for paying fifty quid for the boxed version of 9.1 vs the free versions) hmmm. To be honest, I prefer clean installs rather than upgrades. You can never be sure what will go on during an upgrade. And since you paid for 9.1, I would keep that on for just now (just _my_ preference ;) I'll stop now 'cos life is too short but there's more! (Apache Tomcat etc etc)... Thanks for any assistance... Good luck Iain Ta Steve ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie part 2
Hiya. delurk - Conceptual #1. I'm struggling to figure out where Suse/Linux puts things. On XP, on the whole, programs are installed (by default) in c:\Program Files, dlls etc in C:\Windows and subdirs, user data in C:\Documents and settings\User\ and sub dirs. Is there a direct Linux equivalent? And I'm beginning to think that Suse ain't the same as Redhat? Can you give me a HoNe Rule Of Thumb for where to find stuff? Linux type operating systems tend to have the following layout (but YMMV). /usr - operating system and program files. /etc - system and program configuration files /home - personal account data (Documents and settings if you like) /tmp - temporary files and data /var - server data files such as mail spools and web content etc /mnt - mounted file systems (such as cdroms etc) This isn't exhaustive and is really just a guide - don't take me for gospel :) Suse is a different distribution to RedHat - the main differences between distrubutions are really found in the style of package management. RPM files are RedHats way of managing dependencies (program x needies libraries z,y and foo to run). I don't use Suse so I cannot say for sure what they use, but I don't think its RPM based. - Conceptual #2. Being a big Firefox fan I downloaded the RPM from mozilla.org to my desktop (as root) and ran it. It seems to have installed in a directory under the desktop, which, I suspect, isn't correct. Where should I have put it so that all users can run it? Its probably extracted the contents of the RPM instead of actually installing it - you should probably install a SuSE specific package if at all available. If not, try going for the regular (non rpm) installer that they have available. HoNe Q1: How do I uninstall apps? You can usually do this using the package management tools provided by the distribution. I'm not a Suse user so I couldn't give you anything specific but I'm sure any of the Suse users on the list could point you in the right direction. HoNe Q2: I've got this Suse 9.3 from the Linux mag. Can I 'install' that over what I've got? Will I lose anything (eg YaST online update or similar? I'm hazy as to what I get for paying fifty quid for the boxed version of 9.1 vs the free versions) Most distros offer an upgrade path between minor versions - upgrading major versions (ie. 9.1 -10.0 ) can cause problems but you're usually ok within minor revisions. However, your milage may vary. Buying a boxed set of a distribution doesn't normally mean that the basic software is any different (depending on the boxset, extra packages may be thrown in though) - you are usually paying for either an x day support contract where you can get support over the phone/by email, or decent manuals describing setup procedures etc etc. Your boxset should have some info about what sort of support you get and for how long, if any. Hope this has been of some help, back to lurking now. Cheers. Russell. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Wireless problem on Suse
Have you tried netapplet / kinternet? Billy. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
