Re: [Scottish] Jotismland

2011-12-08 Thread Paxton, Darren 
Sad day when I need to unsubscribe from a mailing list due to the stupid-arse 
"elitism" of those who think they are the chosen ones

Would like to say I'd come back sometime but I doubt it unless there's an 
amount of growing up going on.

Pity any potential new members having to deal with this lot.

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Re: [Scottish] Jotismland

2011-12-08 Thread Andrew Calverley 
Asperger Fuck-Tard Kill Filter created - problem solved

On 8 December 2011 13:38, Rodti MacLeary  wrote:

>
> On 8 Dec 2011, at 07:46, Claudio Calvelli wrote:
>
> In the dim and distant past, when the only mailing list managers were
> either Majordomo or something more ancient, people who posted "unsubscribe
> me" messages would be added to a special mailing list set up for them only.
>
> There they would receive all these "unsubscribe me" messages (and probably
> nothing else) until they figured out how to follow the simple instructions
> instead of asking other people to do it for them. There was no other way
> to be removed from the list.
>
>
> Hahaha, that's marvellous :-)
>
> r.
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Re: [Scottish] Jotismland

2011-12-08 Thread Rodti MacLeary 

On 8 Dec 2011, at 07:46, Claudio Calvelli wrote:

> In the dim and distant past, when the only mailing list managers were
> either Majordomo or something more ancient, people who posted "unsubscribe
> me" messages would be added to a special mailing list set up for them only.
> 
> There they would receive all these "unsubscribe me" messages (and probably
> nothing else) until they figured out how to follow the simple instructions
> instead of asking other people to do it for them. There was no other way
> to be removed from the list.

Hahaha, that's marvellous :-)

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Re: [Scottish] Unsubscribing

2011-12-08 Thread Jason Irwin 
On 08/12/11 09:58, Claudio Calvelli wrote:
> Well, there's a "List-Unsubscribe" header which your mail client may or
> may not understand:
>   List-Unsubscribe: ,
> 
Excellent, learn something new every day.  Seems Thunderbird doesn't
support it
natively, but there is an add-on (not for T8.0 though).
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/unsubscribe-from-mailing-list/

Thanks for the tip.

J.

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Re: [Scottish] Unsubscribing (was: Jotismland)

2011-12-08 Thread Claudio Calvelli 
> And these instructions would be where?  They're not at the bottom of
> this email and the only link goes to an HTTPS page that is likely to
> chuck up an "Invalid certificate" warning which people would rightly be
> disinclined to add an exception for without doing some research first.
> And do we forget that some mail systems do use the subject "unsubscribe"
> as a way to, well, unsubscribe?

Well, there's a "List-Unsubscribe" header which your mail client may or
may not understand:
  List-Unsubscribe: ,


> Is it not possible to make everyone's life easier by simply having an
> "Unsubscribe" link at the bottom of the email?  Once it's that obvious,
> then one might be justified in publicly chastising people.

Probably.  There's no particular reason why the "list-unsubscribe" link
can't be repeated in the message footer.  We'd have to ask the list
maintainer.

> Sorry if I seem rude and I am not trying to have a go at you
> specifically, Claudio.

That's OK, I wasn't reading it like that.

> For those who wish to unsubscribe:
[...]

Or send mail to scottish-request at the appropriate domain with subject
"unsubscribe" (note: do not send mail to the list, but to the
"-request" address).

> (For the avoidance of doubt, I do not wish to unsubscribe)

Ditto.

C

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Re: [Scottish] Unsubscribing (was: Jotismland)

2011-12-08 Thread Jason Irwin 
On 08/12/11 07:46, Claudio Calvelli wrote:
> There they would receive all these "unsubscribe me" messages (and probably
> nothing else) until they figured out how to follow the simple instructions
> instead of asking other people to do it for them.

And these instructions would be where?  They're not at the bottom of
this email and the only link goes to an HTTPS page that is likely to
chuck up an "Invalid certificate" warning which people would rightly be
disinclined to add an exception for without doing some research first.
And do we forget that some mail systems do use the subject "unsubscribe"
as a way to, well, unsubscribe?

Is it not possible to make everyone's life easier by simply having an
"Unsubscribe" link at the bottom of the email?  Once it's that obvious,
then one might be justified in publicly chastising people.

Sorry if I seem rude and I am not trying to have a go at you
specifically, Claudio.

For those who wish to unsubscribe:
Click the link at the bottom of this email.
If you get an "Untrusted/Invalid certificate warning" it's 
probably
because CAcert.org is not included in the trust root of your browser for
various reasons.  Simply add a temporary exception.
Scroll to the bottom of the page.
Bang in your email address beside the "Unsubscribe or edit options" 
button.
Click the button.
Follow the further instructions on the next page.
J.
(For the avoidance of doubt, I do not wish to unsubscribe)

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