[Scottish] BBS / mini social network network software

2013-04-16 Thread Colin McKinnon

Hi,

As the computer guy, I've become responsible for the Scottish Rat Club's 
website (my daughter breeds and shows fancy rats). The current online 
provision is not great - some static HTML pages and a freebie invision BBS.


Increasingly online activity is moving onto facebook :(

I think we could do a lot better with the SRC website - and hence 
looking for suggestions as to software to run it. I'd want a basic CMS, 
a BBS, support for blogs, user pages - public and member only splits. 
User admin is essential, other nice things would be:


- mobile client (HTML5 app / responsive design / native app)
- configurable archiving
- payment processing (but this is down the list a bit)

Since I spend my working day untangling Java mess and this will be 
running on a cheap virtual host, it'll need to be LAMP. And since, when 
I'm not untangling Java, I'm fixing performance problems and fighting 
phishing, I'm not particularly keen on Wordpress nor Joomla.


Googling for open source CMS turns up *lots* of different packages - but 
wading through their websites to find out how well they meet my needs is 
rather tedious.


TIA

Colin




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Re: [Scottish] BBS / mini social network network software

2013-04-16 Thread Lisha Sterling
Hi Colin,

Have you looked at Drupal? I've used it for many professional projects over
the course of the last 8 or 9 years. This past weekend at Hackathon for
Disaster Response we built two different systems -- major apps for disaster
response -- on the Drupal framework. (To give you some context, the same
group met in September, and software we built there was used during
Hurricane Sandy relief less than two months later and some of it has been
adopted for "official" use by FEMA in the US.)

Drupal 7 is fantastic. The CMS out of the box comes with forums, blogs and
user pages. If you'd like help picking out some of the best third party
modules for the other functionality you need, just send me an email
off-list and I'll happily give you a hand.

- Lisha

PS *INTERNATIONAL **SPACE APPS CHALLENGE IS THIS WEEKEND*. (ahem) Have you
guys signed up? I'd love to see you there, and we have 10 spots left.
http://spaceappschallenge.org/location/glasgow :)
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Re: [Scottish] BBS / mini social network network software

2013-04-17 Thread Kenny Duffus
On Tuesday 16 Apr 2013 22:20:34 Lisha Sterling wrote:
> Hi Colin,
> 
> Have you looked at Drupal? I've used it for many professional projects over
> the course of the last 8 or 9 years. This past weekend at Hackathon for
> Disaster Response we built two different systems -- major apps for disaster
> response -- on the Drupal framework. (To give you some context, the same
> group met in September, and software we built there was used during
> Hurricane Sandy relief less than two months later and some of it has been
> adopted for "official" use by FEMA in the US.)
> 
> Drupal 7 is fantastic. The CMS out of the box comes with forums, blogs and
> user pages. If you'd like help picking out some of the best third party
> modules for the other functionality you need, just send me an email
> off-list and I'll happily give you a hand.
> 

Yep I'd agree that drupal sounds like a good match

The open outreach distribution of drupal (single install of drupal and lots of 
modules, not a linux distribution)  packages up the majority of what you asked 
for:

  http://openoutreach.org/

-- 

Kenny MM0ZUN

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Re: [Scottish] BBS / mini social network network software

2013-04-19 Thread Ronald MacDonald

Colin,

On 16 Apr 2013, at 22:08, Colin McKinnon wrote:
> Googling for open source CMS turns up *lots* of different packages - but 
> wading through their websites to find out how well they meet my needs is 
> rather tedious.


I've had a good bit of success with Symphony. Drupal's great too and tends to 
be what I use if I need a site up real quick. It is, however, overkill in most 
instances.

Have a look at Symphony. All it needs is PHP, SQL and a bit of elbow grease. I 
believe you can download pre-built 'ensembles' which give you an out-the-box 
site as well, so you can get an idea of how its (beautiful!) MVC-based 
framework operates.

R


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Re: [Scottish] BBS / mini social network network software

2013-04-19 Thread Ronald MacDonald

D'oh!

On 19 Apr 2013, at 19:06, Ronald MacDonald wrote:
> I believe you can download pre-built 'ensembles' which give you an 
> out-the-box site as well

Forgot the link:

http://getsymphony.com/download/ensembles/

R

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Re: [Scottish] BBS / mini social network network software

2013-04-19 Thread Colin McKinnon

On 19/04/13 19:06, Ronald MacDonald wrote:
I've had a good bit of success with Symphony. Drupal's great too and 
tends to be what I use if I need a site up real quick. It is, however, 
overkill in most instances.

Thanks Ronald, Lisha, Kenny.

I'm rather being pulled in 2 directions here. On the one hand, the 
programmer in me wants something simple to tinker with and extend, but I 
keep reminding myself that I just don't have the time to do that and 
need a turn-key solution.


The last time I'd looked at Drupal, it still seemed to be bag of bits - 
it seems to have moved on a bit. openoutreach looks like a neat bundle - 
but I really hate the whole concept of 'responsive design' there are 
real technical issues with it as a design philosophy - but my real gripe 
is that every 'responsive design' website I've ever looked at on a 
desktop browser is so *u*g*l*y* - they look like something designed by / 
for 5 year olds. Still the gallery for openoutreach suggests not all is 
lost.


Since I'd prefer a turnkey solution, I'm staying clear of frameworks. 
Even when I've got the time to do proper development work, I find 
frameworks of limited value. And anything which abstracts data access I 
find a PITA.


I also had a look at Anahita which seems interesting.

No obvious signs of user quotas / archiving support in what I've looked 
at so far.


The forum really is the important bit. While there's lots of forum 
software available, they mostly use some sort of markdown if any sort of 
styling is available.


Will update when I've thought about this some more.

C.

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