Re: [Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-30 Thread Russell Cassidy
Phillip Bennett wrote:
> Apparently when the permissinos are set as : rwxr-xr-x  root   named  60480
> Apr 10  2006 /bin/su it's not a good thing.

Because su needs suid permissions to be able to set the uid to the one
you are wanting.

> Thanks for all the help though.  It has been a very weird problem.  With
> random permissions like this though, I think it might be time to rebuild.
> Has anyone seen this type of thing before?

Have you run some sort of hardening script that removes suid/guid bits
from scripts/programs on your system (such as bastille?) - this will
remove normal user functionality from programs such as ping etc.

Running su under sudo would have worked fine as you were running su as
root and not as you.



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RE: [Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-30 Thread Phillip Bennett
Hi Kyle,

Yes, I removed winbind from the nsswitch.conf.  That was one of the first
places I checked.  I have found a post on another error I recieved and have
found that something has reset the permissions on the su executable.  I
actually thought I'd have tried to su to another valid user, but evidently I
hadn't.  I thought I'd try it again today and I got another error (su:
cannot set groups: Operation not permitted)

Apparently when the permissinos are set as : rwxr-xr-x  root   named  60480
Apr 10  2006 /bin/su it's not a good thing.

Goodness knows what the hell has happened, but I set the permissions back
to: -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 60480 Apr 10  2006 /bin/su

And it's working again.

Thanks for all the help though.  It has been a very weird problem.  With
random permissions like this though, I think it might be time to rebuild.
Has anyone seen this type of thing before?

Phil.

-Original Message-
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Have you removed winbindd from nsswitch.conf?

Kyle

Phillip Bennett wrote:
> Colin,
>
> As much as it appears I'm an idiot, yes I have logged in on the 
> console successfully.  I also changed the root password more than once 
> to make sure it was not 'forgotten'.
>
> Thanks so far,
> Phil.
>
> PS: here is the su pam file for mark:
>
> #%PAM-1.0
> auth   sufficient   /lib/security/$ISA/pam_rootok.so
> # Uncomment the following line to implicitly trust users in the "wheel"
> group.
> #auth   sufficient   /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so trust use_uid
> # Uncomment the following line to require a user to be in the "wheel"
group.
> #auth   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so use_uid
> auth   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so
service=system-auth
> accountrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so
service=system-auth
> password   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so
service=system-auth
> # pam_selinux.so close must be first session rule
> sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so close
> sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so
service=system-auth
> # pam_selinux.so open and pam_xauth must be last two session rules
> sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so open
> sessionoptional /lib/security/$ISA/pam_xauth.so
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> McKinnon
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> Subject: Re: [Scottish] Help with SU
>
> On Thursday 29 March 2007 14:47, Phillip Bennett wrote:
> 
>   
>> However, now I can't su to root.  It gives me a 'wrong password' error.
>> Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root.
>>
>> 
>
> What makes you think you've not just forgotten the password? Have you 
> tried logging in on the console?
>
> C.
>
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Re: [Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-30 Thread Kyle Gordon

Have you removed winbindd from nsswitch.conf?

Kyle

Phillip Bennett wrote:

Colin,

As much as it appears I'm an idiot, yes I have logged in on the console
successfully.  I also changed the root password more than once to make sure
it was not 'forgotten'.

Thanks so far,
Phil.

PS: here is the su pam file for mark:

#%PAM-1.0
auth   sufficient   /lib/security/$ISA/pam_rootok.so
# Uncomment the following line to implicitly trust users in the "wheel"
group.
#auth   sufficient   /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so trust use_uid
# Uncomment the following line to require a user to be in the "wheel" group.
#auth   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so use_uid
auth   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
accountrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
password   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
# pam_selinux.so close must be first session rule
sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so close
sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
# pam_selinux.so open and pam_xauth must be last two session rules
sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so open
sessionoptional /lib/security/$ISA/pam_xauth.so


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Subject: Re: [Scottish] Help with SU

On Thursday 29 March 2007 14:47, Phillip Bennett wrote:

  

However, now I can't su to root.  It gives me a 'wrong password' error.
Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root.




What makes you think you've not just forgotten the password? Have you tried
logging in on the console?

C.


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RE: [Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-30 Thread Phillip Bennett
Colin,

As much as it appears I'm an idiot, yes I have logged in on the console
successfully.  I also changed the root password more than once to make sure
it was not 'forgotten'.

Thanks so far,
Phil.

PS: here is the su pam file for mark:

#%PAM-1.0
auth   sufficient   /lib/security/$ISA/pam_rootok.so
# Uncomment the following line to implicitly trust users in the "wheel"
group.
#auth   sufficient   /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so trust use_uid
# Uncomment the following line to require a user to be in the "wheel" group.
#auth   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_wheel.so use_uid
auth   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
accountrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
password   required /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
# pam_selinux.so close must be first session rule
sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so close
sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
# pam_selinux.so open and pam_xauth must be last two session rules
sessionrequired /lib/security/$ISA/pam_selinux.so open
sessionoptional /lib/security/$ISA/pam_xauth.so


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Subject: Re: [Scottish] Help with SU

On Thursday 29 March 2007 14:47, Phillip Bennett wrote:

>
> However, now I can't su to root.  It gives me a 'wrong password' error.
> Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root.
>

What makes you think you've not just forgotten the password? Have you tried
logging in on the console?

C.


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Re: [Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-30 Thread Colin McKinnon
On Thursday 29 March 2007 14:47, Phillip Bennett wrote:

>
> However, now I can't su to root.  It gives me a 'wrong password' error.
> Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root.
>

What makes you think you've not just forgotten the password? Have you tried 
logging in on the console?

C.


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RE: [Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-30 Thread Phillip Bennett
Hi Colin,

Yep.  Did that.  Then again, very slowly.  And then with just my left hand
while facing North and singing Kumbaya.  No use so far.

Glad you mentioned it though.

Phil.
 

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I'm not one to overlook the obvious, but... have you tried resetting the
root password yet?

Colin

Phillip Bennett wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've had a server of mine set up for a while now and had added it to 
> the ADS domain here so it could authenticate from there.  All was 
> successful, until I changed the internal DNS here recently (BIND).  
> Basically it stuffed the ADS relationship from the hostname change (as 
> far as I can tell).  I removed the winbind daemon and stopped it 
> trying to authenticate throught the AD domain.  Also, I removed it from
the ADS domain.
> 
> However, now I can't su to root.  It gives me a 'wrong password' error.
> Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root.
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on why this would happen?  Or at least where 
> to look?  I've checked the PAM files and the nsswitch.conf.  There's 
> nothing in any of the logs (messages, secure etc..)  I'm completely 
> stumped.  I thought I knew how logging in worked, but I guess I've 
> missed something fairly important.
> 
> Any and all help appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Phil.
> 
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Re: [Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-29 Thread Colin Shorts
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I'm not one to overlook the obvious, but... have you tried resetting the
root password yet?

Colin

Phillip Bennett wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've had a server of mine set up for a while now and had added it to the ADS
> domain here so it could authenticate from there.  All was successful, until
> I changed the internal DNS here recently (BIND).  Basically it stuffed the
> ADS relationship from the hostname change (as far as I can tell).  I removed
> the winbind daemon and stopped it trying to authenticate throught the AD
> domain.  Also, I removed it from the ADS domain.
> 
> However, now I can't su to root.  It gives me a 'wrong password' error.
> Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root.
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on why this would happen?  Or at least where to
> look?  I've checked the PAM files and the nsswitch.conf.  There's nothing in
> any of the logs (messages, secure etc..)  I'm completely stumped.  I thought
> I knew how logging in worked, but I guess I've missed something fairly
> important.
> 
> Any and all help appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Phil.
> 
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[Scottish] Help with SU

2007-03-29 Thread Phillip Bennett
Hi all,

I've had a server of mine set up for a while now and had added it to the ADS
domain here so it could authenticate from there.  All was successful, until
I changed the internal DNS here recently (BIND).  Basically it stuffed the
ADS relationship from the hostname change (as far as I can tell).  I removed
the winbind daemon and stopped it trying to authenticate throught the AD
domain.  Also, I removed it from the ADS domain.

However, now I can't su to root.  It gives me a 'wrong password' error.
Fortunately, I can still use 'sudo su -' to get root.

Can anyone shed any light on why this would happen?  Or at least where to
look?  I've checked the PAM files and the nsswitch.conf.  There's nothing in
any of the logs (messages, secure etc..)  I'm completely stumped.  I thought
I knew how logging in worked, but I guess I've missed something fairly
important.

Any and all help appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil.


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