Re: [Scottish] Moving house!

2007-12-01 Thread Claudio Calvelli

Dan Shearer:

> It was precisely the goal of running Linux instead of RiscOS
> (interesting though it is) that drove the ARM port of Linux as a totally
> impractical hobby on outdated hardware. Then Russell King found his
> hobby at the centre of interest by ARM Plc and embedded device
> manufacturers, and it is now running on millions of devices. So three
> cheers for pointless projects. There's lots of fun and education and
> frustration to be had by jamming free OSs onto the kind of hardware that
> turns up when people move house and I highly recommend it to people who
> have only ever seen x86 :-)

What about porting Linux to this: http://acarol.woz.org/

(/me hides)

C


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Re: [Scottish] Moving house!

2007-12-01 Thread Dan Shearer
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 07:22:21PM +, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 00:09 +1030, Dan Shearer wrote:

> I've contributed patches to SimH and written a PDP8
> emulator and an SC/MP emulator.

Thanks for the software, I'm an appreciative user.

> > Conversely for people wanting to run a real OS on very different
> > hardware, NetBSD runs on all of them (and depending on the model
> > maybe the Apollo as well) and Linux runs on the Archimedes.
> 
> Why the hell would you even consider trying to run Linux on the
> Archimedes?  It's got a perfectly good OS of its own.

It was precisely the goal of running Linux instead of RiscOS
(interesting though it is) that drove the ARM port of Linux as a totally
impractical hobby on outdated hardware. Then Russell King found his
hobby at the centre of interest by ARM Plc and embedded device
manufacturers, and it is now running on millions of devices. So three
cheers for pointless projects. There's lots of fun and education and
frustration to be had by jamming free OSs onto the kind of hardware that
turns up when people move house and I highly recommend it to people who
have only ever seen x86 :-)

-- 
Dan Shearer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS Now here's an interesting thing off /. : the GFDL will be changed to be CC
compatible, which is especially important for Wikipedia (with an
incorrectly-named URL):
http://blog.jamendo.com/index.php/2007/12/01/breaking-news-wikipedia-switches-to-creative-commons/

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Re: [Scottish] Moving house!

2007-12-01 Thread Gordon JC Pearce

On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 00:09 +1030, Dan Shearer wrote:

> For people curious about virtualisation and observing the crossover
> between real world and fake silicon, you can boot the original media and
> hard disk images for these machines under Linux using various emulators
> including SimH, GXemu (well, DecStation 3100 is less well-supported than
> the 5000 series which I know works; need to see, but you can certainly
> run Ultrix binaries anyway if that counts :) and QEMU and RPCEmu for the
> Archimedes. There's also Arculator for Windows.

Yes, I know.  I've contributed patches to SimH and written a PDP8
emulator and an SC/MP emulator.

> Conversely for people wanting to run a real OS on very different
> hardware, NetBSD runs on all of them (and depending on the model
> maybe the Apollo as well) and Linux runs on the Archimedes.

Why the hell would you even consider trying to run Linux on the
Archimedes?  It's got a perfectly good OS of its own.

Gordon


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re: [Scottish] Moving house!

2007-12-01 Thread spam

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Hi all,
  I'm moving house.  As the place I'm moving to is a little smaller
(well really about the same size, but fully-furnished and a bit full of
junk) I'm getting rid of some stuff.  These include but are not limited
to (in no particular order):

Some PCs
Some VAXStation 3100s
A DECStation 3100
A MicroVAX 3300
an LA36 dot-matrix printer terminal (quite big)
Possibly a couple of CP/M machines
Possibly a CPM/86 machine (all of these fairly small)
Some more PCs
Possibly one of those HP scanner/printer things, but I don't have the
funny parallel cable
Some other computers, possibly including an HP Apollo desktop and an
Acorn Archimedes (not decided about the Archie yet).
Hohner Organetta electric piano, with stand

You can pick them up, or I can probably drop them off.  Nothing except
the LA36 is particularly big.

Gordon




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Hi!

Which model Archimedes is it, I could be interested :).

Rob

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Re: [Scottish] Moving house!

2007-12-01 Thread Dan Shearer
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 10:12:13AM +, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

> junk) I'm getting rid of some stuff.  These include but are not limited
:
> Some VAXStation 3100s
> A DECStation 3100
> A MicroVAX 3300
> Acorn Archimedes (not decided about the Archie yet).

For people curious about virtualisation and observing the crossover
between real world and fake silicon, you can boot the original media and
hard disk images for these machines under Linux using various emulators
including SimH, GXemu (well, DecStation 3100 is less well-supported than
the 5000 series which I know works; need to see, but you can certainly
run Ultrix binaries anyway if that counts :) and QEMU and RPCEmu for the
Archimedes. There's also Arculator for Windows.

Conversely for people wanting to run a real OS on very different
hardware, NetBSD runs on all of them (and depending on the model
maybe the Apollo as well) and Linux runs on the Archimedes.

-- 
Dan Shearer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Scottish] Moving house!

2007-12-01 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
Hi all,
  I'm moving house.  As the place I'm moving to is a little smaller
(well really about the same size, but fully-furnished and a bit full of
junk) I'm getting rid of some stuff.  These include but are not limited
to (in no particular order):

Some PCs
Some VAXStation 3100s
A DECStation 3100
A MicroVAX 3300
an LA36 dot-matrix printer terminal (quite big)
Possibly a couple of CP/M machines
Possibly a CPM/86 machine (all of these fairly small)
Some more PCs
Possibly one of those HP scanner/printer things, but I don't have the
funny parallel cable
Some other computers, possibly including an HP Apollo desktop and an
Acorn Archimedes (not decided about the Archie yet).
Hohner Organetta electric piano, with stand

You can pick them up, or I can probably drop them off.  Nothing except
the LA36 is particularly big.

Gordon


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