Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
Colin McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cheapo adsl adaptors which come for 'free' with ADSL packages are almost universally USB connected and (mostly) only work with MSWindows. I'd recommend getting your own ADSL router with ethernet (RJ45) or WiFi connection. Agreed. I think I'm right in saying: those USB modems are winmodems, in that they push a bunch of the work of the ADSL routing onto your system, which they assume to be a Windows box. That's why you have to have (the correct) drivers, and things have to work just right for the USB modem to do anything at all. In the case of a separate ADSL router, it's handling all the ADSLness, and your machine just sees an Ethernet port to send packets to. For not much more money, you get an ADSL router with four Ethernet ports (possibly plus wireless, which is _always_ more trouble, in my experience :-(), so it's a no-brainer to hook up that 2nd, 3rd, and 4th computer/whatever. As Colin says, spend the money and rest easy. Will ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/02/2006 09:50:43: Colin McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cheapo adsl adaptors which come for 'free' with ADSL packages are almost universally USB connected and (mostly) only work with MSWindows. I'd recommend getting your own ADSL router with ethernet (RJ45) or WiFi connection. Agreed. I think I'm right in saying: those USB modems are winmodems, in that they push a bunch of the work of the ADSL routing onto your system, which they assume to be a Windows box. That's why you have to have (the correct) drivers, and things have to work just right for the USB modem to do anything at all. Actually, not always true. In some cases I have seen (in particular the ntl cable modems) it's actually providing ethernet over USB, which got into the kernel somewhere around 2.4.18 IIRC. However, the Speedtouch ADSL modems (which are really common) _are_ winmodems, but do have Linux drivers. However, I still agree with buying your own ADSL kit - it's not expensive these days. A (very bargain basement) ebuyer adsl modem (no router - just a modem) comes in at about £20 IIRC. Ben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
Derrick, As I have not yet achieved Internet access from my Linux machine, I am not the best person to ask! However, I think internet access is available from most ISPs, independent of your operating system. We have BT broadband at home, and I'm ever hopeful that when I have a fully working linux installation, it will include internet access. I am sending this reply through Scotlug, as you are more likely to get useful help from other members. You should register as a member, so that you get circulated with current postings ... I can't remember how to do this ... Can somebody enlighten Derrick, please? Regards Rob Message Received: Feb 21 2006, 01:42 PM From: Derrick Grimmitt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: RE: Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access I would like to connect to the Internet through Linux (I have Suse 10 dual booted with WindowsXP) do you know an ISP that will allow me to do this I am new to the Internet Linux. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
I helped someone out recently with a similar problem, what I found was if I did'nt go through all the options when setting up kdialer then the ppp script was not completed correctly and missed certain options. Try setting up your dial up connection again and go through every setting even if you do not change some of them. You can compare before and after by taking a copy of your current one. This was in Suse 9.2, Suse 9.1 worked fine. Ian On 02/05/05, Robert Barbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, I mean an ordinary 56k modem connected to a serial port. I am pretty well convinced the modem side of things does work OK, but recent suggestions to change DNS settings haven't got me online ... Regards Rob Message date : Apr 29 2005, 11:10 AM From : William Anderson To : SLUG-list Copy to : Subject : Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access Robert Barbour wrote: When (if?) I get online with the modem, the first job is to update Suse, but it is a case of the chicken and the egg at the moment. Does anyone know if SuSe 9.2 professional definitely works OK with a US Robotics modem on dial-up? I'm beginning to think maybe I should get SuSe 9.3 and give that a go! Do you mean a regular 56k modem plugged into a serial port? Most if not all distros should surely be able to talk to the modem as a dumb 33.6k modem if they can't send the right AT commands to get the modem to neg up to V42. Serial ports Just Work (tm) :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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When (if?) I get online with the modem, the first job is to update Suse, but it is a case of the chicken and the egg at the moment. Does anyone know if SuSe 9.2 professional definitely works OK with a US Robotics modem on dial-up? I'm beginning to think maybe I should get SuSe 9.3 and give that a go! Regards Rob Message date : Apr 28 2005, 08:38 AM From : John Barton To : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' , 'SLUG-list' Copy to : Subject : RE: Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access Have had a similar problem receiving message network is unreachable and could not ping any other machine on the local network or the internet. I am connected via a router on corporate network, not a modem however, and was able to get to YAST Online Update (YOU) from the desktop link. Downloaded and installed all 57 recommended updates - did a reboot- and system ran perfectly. Unfortunately could not identify actual cure. This was on Tuesday of this week. -Original Message- From: Robert Barbour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:11 AM To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access Mostly when using a dial-up ISP people get their ip address, default gateway, and nameservers dynamically. My guess is that because you have set these as static. YAST/Network Devices/Modems/Providers/Edit/Next - select: Modify DNS when connected I did this and it made no difference. I noted the settings in this box are now- dial on demand - not selected modify DNS when conn - selected Automatically retrieve DNS - selected Stupid mode - not selected Ext Firewall Interface - not selected Automatically retrieve DNS (or insert P: 194.134.5.5 S: 194.134.5.55 for Wannadoo) - I tried both automatic and these names, but no difference. /IP Details - selt to Dynamic IP address as suggested. I made these changes, restarted machine and dialling still seemed to work but internet browser gave the same unknown host message. I also tried Willie's suggestion 'ping 66.102.9.99' for google after dialling in, and got a msg saying connect : network is unreachable. I have dumped windows altogether, so there's no going back! Further suggestion anyone? Rob -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
Robert Barbour wrote: When (if?) I get online with the modem, the first job is to update Suse, but it is a case of the chicken and the egg at the moment. Does anyone know if SuSe 9.2 professional definitely works OK with a US Robotics modem on dial-up? I'm beginning to think maybe I should get SuSe 9.3 and give that a go! Do you mean a regular 56k modem plugged into a serial port? Most if not all distros should surely be able to talk to the modem as a dumb 33.6k modem if they can't send the right AT commands to get the modem to neg up to V42. Serial ports Just Work (tm) :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | There's something about records which is \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | really satisfying. =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- John Peel (1939 - 2004) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
Mostly when using a dial-up ISP people get their ip address, default gateway, and nameservers dynamically. My guess is that because you have set these as static. YAST/Network Devices/Modems/Providers/Edit/Next - select: Modify DNS when connected I did this and it made no difference. I noted the settings in this box are now- dial on demand - not selected modify DNS when conn - selected Automatically retrieve DNS - selected Stupid mode - not selected Ext Firewall Interface - not selected Automatically retrieve DNS (or insert P: 194.134.5.5 S: 194.134.5.55 for Wannadoo) - I tried both automatic and these names, but no difference. /IP Details - selt to Dynamic IP address as suggested. I made these changes, restarted machine and dialling still seemed to work but internet browser gave the same unknown host message. I also tried Willie's suggestion 'ping 66.102.9.99' for google after dialling in, and got a msg saying connect : network is unreachable. I have dumped windows altogether, so there's no going back! Further suggestion anyone? Rob -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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Have had a similar problem receiving message network is unreachable and could not ping any other machine on the local network or the internet. I am connected via a router on corporate network, not a modem however, and was able to get to YAST Online Update (YOU) from the desktop link. Downloaded and installed all 57 recommended updates - did a reboot- and system ran perfectly. Unfortunately could not identify actual cure. This was on Tuesday of this week. -Original Message- From: Robert Barbour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:11 AM To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access Mostly when using a dial-up ISP people get their ip address, default gateway, and nameservers dynamically. My guess is that because you have set these as static. YAST/Network Devices/Modems/Providers/Edit/Next - select: Modify DNS when connected I did this and it made no difference. I noted the settings in this box are now- dial on demand - not selected modify DNS when conn - selected Automatically retrieve DNS - selected Stupid mode - not selected Ext Firewall Interface - not selected Automatically retrieve DNS (or insert P: 194.134.5.5 S: 194.134.5.55 for Wannadoo) - I tried both automatic and these names, but no difference. /IP Details - selt to Dynamic IP address as suggested. I made these changes, restarted machine and dialling still seemed to work but internet browser gave the same unknown host message. I also tried Willie's suggestion 'ping 66.102.9.99' for google after dialling in, and got a msg saying connect : network is unreachable. I have dumped windows altogether, so there's no going back! Further suggestion anyone? Rob -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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check your using DHCP...it sounds like your not getting your DNS server addresses updated. On 25/04/05, Robert Barbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having restored printing services, I need to get back online with Suse. Before abandoning MS Windows, I noted as many settings as I could, covering the dialup access I have with Wanadoo. I have a US robotics external modem, definitely working OK, and configured it in Yast/network Devices (US Robotics Courier everything) as modem0 with Wanadoo Pay As You Go. So far so good. When I select Internet dialup and give my ISP password, the modem dials and sounds like it is connecting. I get a wee plug icon in bottom right, which gets a jaggy bit of yellow lightning on it. If I other click on it, one option is to hang up, so I guess I'm connected? Opening Konqueror's browser and typing a URL gets an error message like unknown host www.google.com. The sytem hangs up after a few minutes, and the lightning disappears from icon. While 'connected' an attempt to update SuSe just gets couldn't resolve host www.suse.de. I know I'm missing something but what? Do I need to Use Yast to configure any Network Services, and if so which? (and how?). I understand nothing about DNS, host names etc. All suggestion gratefully received. Regards Rob -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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yes, its your dns settings you will need to configure by the looks of it. [23:11] * Dns resolved www.google.com to 66.102.9.99 Try pinging google directly with that IP and see if it gets through. If so, its definatly the DNS. Do you still have access to your Windows install? Once your connecting in windows, do to the cmd line and type ipconfig /all and note down the DNS Server IP's that it shows you. Reboot into linux and open (i *think*) /etc/resolv.conf and pop in the nameservers like this: nameserver 212.67.202.2 nameserver 212.67.203.246 nameserver 194.73.73.172 (p.s. if you cant get your dns ips or dont have windows up then feel freew to use those ips instead, they should work) Robert Barbour wrote: Having restored printing services, I need to get back online with Suse. Before abandoning MS Windows, I noted as many settings as I could, covering the dialup access I have with Wanadoo. I have a US robotics external modem, definitely working OK, and configured it in Yast/network Devices (US Robotics Courier everything) as modem0 with Wanadoo Pay As You Go. So far so good. When I select Internet dialup and give my ISP password, the modem dials and sounds like it is connecting. I get a wee plug icon in bottom right, which gets a jaggy bit of yellow lightning on it. If I other click on it, one option is to hang up, so I guess I'm connected? Opening Konqueror's browser and typing a URL gets an error message like unknown host www.google.com. The sytem hangs up after a few minutes, and the lightning disappears from icon. While 'connected' an attempt to update SuSe just gets couldn't resolve host www.suse.de. I know I'm missing something but what? Do I need to Use Yast to configure any Network Services, and if so which? (and how?). I understand nothing about DNS, host names etc. All suggestion gratefully received. Regards Rob ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
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On Monday 25 April 2005 07:22, Robert Barbour wrote: RB I understand nothing about DNS, host names etc. Mostly when using a dial-up ISP people get their ip address, default gateway, and nameservers dynamically. My guess is that because you have set these as static. YAST/Network Devices/Modems/Providers/Edit/Next - select: Modify DNS when connected Automatically retrieve DNS (or insert P: 194.134.5.5 S: 194.134.5.55 for Wannadoo) /IP Details - select: Dynamic IP address /OK/Next/Finish Are you using a different mail address to the one that you subscribed with, or is the 16 hour posting delay due to mailman.lug.org.uk? -- ray ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
Having restored printing services, I need to get back online with Suse. Before abandoning MS Windows, I noted as many settings as I could, covering the dialup access I have with Wanadoo. I have a US robotics external modem, definitely working OK, and configured it in Yast/network Devices (US Robotics Courier everything) as modem0 with Wanadoo Pay As You Go. So far so good. When I select Internet dialup and give my ISP password, the modem dials and sounds like it is connecting. I get a wee plug icon in bottom right, which gets a jaggy bit of yellow lightning on it. If I other click on it, one option is to hang up, so I guess I'm connected? Opening Konqueror's browser and typing a URL gets an error message like unknown host www.google.com. The sytem hangs up after a few minutes, and the lightning disappears from icon. While 'connected' an attempt to update SuSe just gets couldn't resolve host www.suse.de. I know I'm missing something but what? Do I need to Use Yast to configure any Network Services, and if so which? (and how?). I understand nothing about DNS, host names etc. All suggestion gratefully received. Regards Rob -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
