[Scottish] Window manager for tablet?
Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for WM which will be usable on a tablet (i.e. small screen) VNCing onto a Linux box. Really I want to run all my apps full screen without the expense of a menu bar. Although most tiling WMs allow this, it's rather difficult to do alt+tab with no keyboard! Hence I'd want something with a conventional task bar and a launcher would be nice too (not least so I can write an app to switch the 'mouse' buttons). Thus far the only taskbars/launchers I've seen for tiling WMs are very minimal (and very small to poke with my fat digits). I usually use KDE: my ideal solution would be to get rid of the window decorations / force stuff to run full screen. Anyone got any suggestions? TIA C. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?
On Monday 05 May 2014 21:48:46 Colin McKinnon wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions for WM which will be usable on a tablet > (i.e. small screen) VNCing onto a Linux box. I haven't tried with a touch screen, but what about KDE-4 > system Settings > Workspace Behaviour > Workspace > Workspace Type : Netbook This opens applications full screen and has a sort of finger-friendly menu system. Also Openbox-KDE gives access to the KDE environment with a minimal window manager (no plasma). Don't you want to run these (choose as the desktop from e.g. kdm) on the host desktop rather than the tablet? Has anyone tried a smallish bluetooth keyboard -- I am also experimenting with a tablet for remote access/administration/support. -- ray ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?
On 6 May 2014 06:35, "ray" wrote: > Has anyone tried a smallish bluetooth keyboard -- I am also experimenting with a tablet for remote access/administration/support? I picked up a really cheap Bluetooth keyboard from Sainsbury's and apart from missing a character or two it works a treat. Colin > > -- > ray > > > ___ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?
On 06/05/14 06:35, ray wrote: I haven't tried with a touch screen, but what about KDE-4 > system Settings > Workspace Behaviour > Workspace > Workspace Type : Netbook This opens applications full screen and has a sort of finger-friendly menu system. Ooh. Was rather surprised to find this in my system settings - didn't come across a netbook mode in my research and my desktop distro is currently a bit old. It seems to have some rough edges - this is a very early KDE4, but I'm inspired to do some more digging! Anyone know if window size can controlled via Xresources? (now if only I could get OpenOffice to respond to gestures). Also Openbox-KDE gives access to the KDE environment with a minimal window manager (no plasma). Don't you want to run these (choose as the desktop from e.g. kdm) on the host desktop rather than the tablet? Yes - thinking about accessing my desktop from the tablet but also as a way of doing BYOD at work (sorry, did I get it the wrong way around - that's the trouble with X Window / RDP / VNC which is the server again?). Has anyone tried a smallish bluetooth keyboard -- I am also experimenting with a tablet for remote access/administration/support. I did get a rather cheap and nasty bluetooth keyboard free with a case I bought for my son's Samsung (somewhat reminiscent of a Sinclair Spectrum) I found it difficult to type at speed with (I wouldn't go as far to describe what I do as "touch-type") and the lag was significant. After much soul searching I'm thinking about buying a Microsoft branded product - PCWorld are currently selling compact wedge keyboards for £22, at least that's what the shelf-edge label said on Saturday at Braehead, currently the online price is £48 http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/ipad-tablets-and-ereaders/tablets/tablet-accessories/microsoft-wedge-mobile-keyboard-black-17291822-pdt.html Not tried it yet with a computer attached but it has a nice action - and the fold-out stand is sensible. C. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?
On Tuesday 06 May 2014 22:15:33 Colin McKinnon wrote: Anyone know if window size can controlled via Xresources? Window size parameters specified via vncviewer" or "rdesktop" get overruled by "~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc" [PlasmaViews][1][Sizes] lastsize= This is set with: System Settings > Display & Monitor > Display Configuration You can either use ssh to editthis file, or as I have done, create ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc.local and ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc.remote versions. A script on my laptop uses ssh to set a hard link from .remote to .kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc, call vncviewer, then reset the plasma-desktoprc link to .local when done. Thanks for the keyboard info; I will investigate local price. Do you have an Intel chipped tablet? I have not had much luck running regular Linux desktops on Arm. -- ray ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?
On 07/05/14 08:43, ray wrote: Thanks for the keyboard info; I will investigate local price. Do you have an Intel chipped tablet? I have not had much luck running regular Linux desktops on Arm. Sorry offline for a bit there. Was back at PCWorld this weekend and price is now £48. I've not tried running a conventional distro on the tablet (arm) I'm using VNC viewer on the tablet to access my desktop. If nothing else it's an education in how to (not?) to design a UI for a tablet device. The Word Processor/Spreadsheet app (Kingston Office) which came with the tablet (Lenovo Yoga) actually copes quite well with the stuff I've thrown at it so far. However I was also hoping to map out tools which would be usable via a remote session for BYOD at work - i.e. allowing users similar access to what they have from their work desktop, but without any data being downloaded (or downloadable) to the device itself. And while I could just run virtual Windows machines with VNC, Linux/Unix seems a much nicer fit. Running a browser based application is looking like a better solution, but although there seem to be at least 2 projects underway porting OpenOffice to the web, there doesn't seem to be a sable release yet. C. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish