Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
Kenny Duffus wrote: > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 07:33, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: >> It sounds like you might want to try downloading the full set of Debian >> CDs. There are dozens, though. One of the reasons why Ubuntu leaves so >> much out is because if you wanted to fit it all on a single disk you >> would need a CD drive the size of a truck, and special tools to mount >> the flying saucer-sized disk. >> > > the kubuntu DVD image may be easier to acquire :-) > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/ or indeed, the Ubuntu release, you KDE whore :))) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/ -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 07:33, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > It sounds like you might want to try downloading the full set of Debian > CDs. There are dozens, though. One of the reasons why Ubuntu leaves so > much out is because if you wanted to fit it all on a single disk you > would need a CD drive the size of a truck, and special tools to mount > the flying saucer-sized disk. > the kubuntu DVD image may be easier to acquire :-) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/ -- Kenny ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 10:51 +0100, Joseph Kerr wrote: > Hi, > > I too first install Linux using Mandrake 10.0 from a free CD in a > Linux magazine. I was impressed with all the included packages. When > Ubuntu was release I thought I would give it a try. Big mistake! Too > few packages. Problems with dialup and wireless. All the online > documentation assumes that you have a speedy broadband connection. If > I want to install a package I need to go to the local library, > Clydebank, download the required packages then burn them on a CD. I > have worked in the IT business for some years and I thought of > introducing myself to Linux apps via Python, mySQL. No development > environment was available on the supplied CDs. It sounds like you might want to try downloading the full set of Debian CDs. There are dozens, though. One of the reasons why Ubuntu leaves so much out is because if you wanted to fit it all on a single disk you would need a CD drive the size of a truck, and special tools to mount the flying saucer-sized disk. > I cannot understand why Ubuntu is so popular. It seems to be a > repackaging of Debian. It is a step backwords for Linux. Ubuntu is aimed at being a simple, easy-to-use desktop OS. The idea is that you put the CD in, say "Yes" a lot at the prompts, and you have something that looks good and works well for people who want to surf the 'net and read email. It excels at this (and this is a confirmed Debian-hater saying it). I've even switched to Xubuntu for my desktop. > I am considering migrating to MEPIS. Does anyone have a MEPIS CD they > can give me? Thanks. The problem with the "repackaged Debian" distros is that they do all tend to assume you're on a fairly hefty connection. They're not alone in this - building stuff from [pkgsrc|ports] in [Net|Free]BSD does a similar thing. Unfortunately the distros with more stuff in them tend also to be more complicated to set up. That said, you could take a look at Slackware. Gordon. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/06/2006 10:51:53: > I cannot understand why Ubuntu is so popular. It seems to be a > repackaging of Debian. It is a step backwords for Linux. > > I am considering migrating to MEPIS. Does anyone have a MEPIS CD they > can give me? Thanks. MEPIS is just a repackaging of Debian too. If you didn't like Ubuntu, then you are probably equally as likely to dislike Mepis. People use Ubuntu because it is an extremely well integrated distribution which is, for the most part, simple to use and run, with a large community behind it. Plus, the very fact that it is based on Debian is seen as a good thing. Unfortunately no Linux distribution is particularly good if you do not have internet access, and dialup is almost as bad. It would appear that, for the most part, the issue of winmodems has never been resolved, and is increasingly unlikely with the spread of broadband. Even with a working dialup connection, getting updates for a system is likely to be a lengthy process. FWIW I have been using Ubuntu on my laptop (all devices working, including wifi, although I haven't tried the modem) since Warty Warthog and one of the most impressive things for me is the amount of progress they have made in <2 years. I switched my desktop from Debian Unstable to Breezy (and now Dapper) earlier this year, and couldn't be happier. If something doesn't work for you in Ubuntu, then I strongly urge you to log a bug - the community (IME) has been very responsive to resolving issues with the distribution, and this has been key in the improvements they have made. Ben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
Hi, I too first install Linux using Mandrake 10.0 from a free CD in a Linux magazine. I was impressed with all the included packages. When Ubuntu was release I thought I would give it a try. Big mistake! Too few packages. Problems with dialup and wireless. All the online documentation assumes that you have a speedy broadband connection. If I want to install a package I need to go to the local library, Clydebank, download the required packages then burn them on a CD. I have worked in the IT business for some years and I thought of introducing myself to Linux apps via Python, mySQL. No development environment was available on the supplied CDs. I cannot understand why Ubuntu is so popular. It seems to be a repackaging of Debian. It is a step backwords for Linux. I am considering migrating to MEPIS. Does anyone have a MEPIS CD they can give me? Thanks. Joe n 6/3/06, Russell Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subhi S Hashwa wrote: > interesting how it's under sex & health headline:) or at least Quite. I was wondering what on earth Ubuntu had to do with sex or health :-) Cheers. Russell. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
Subhi S Hashwa wrote: > interesting how it's under sex & health headline:) or at least Quite. I was wondering what on earth Ubuntu had to do with sex or health :-) Cheers. Russell. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
Friday, June 2, 2006, 4:46:23 PM, donothing successfully wrote: > Ubuntu 6.06 gets a positive write-up in today's Daily Record: > http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sexandhealth/features/tm_objectid=17164816%26method=full%26siteid=66633-name_page.html > does that mean Linux is ready for the desktop? interesting how it's under sex & health headline:) or at least -- Best regards, Subhi S Hashwa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When everything is heading your way, you're in the wrong lane. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
Real Scots _won't_ read the Record Most tims boycott the Record and I believe those of the nasally blue persuasion aren't that keen on it either. As a Zoroastrian Partick Thistle supporter I could get offended by your dichotomy. I'm more of a Private Eye reader myself but the Record was the only thing I could get my hands on that lunch time. cheers H. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
RE: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
Hi Good to see that linux is gaining a bit more exposure from the press, (even if it is ubuntu, j/k). You never know what kind of interest this may spark, if any. I, for example, was first introduced to Mandrake/Mandriva (and Linux) after a short article in the D/R around the release of 10.0 (/10.1? I can never remember). Praise for coverage that not many tabloids have taken up on! Cheers Craig Hi Ubuntu 6.06 gets a positive write-up in today's Daily Record: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sexandhealth/features/tm_objectid=17164816%26method=full%26siteid=66633-name_page.html does that mean Linux is ready for the desktop? It's right next to a bit about MS stopping support for 98/ME. regards Harry ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
Alistair Ross wrote: > [snip] > > Since when did this forum become subject to religious/political/commercial > bias? bwahahaha. Also, forum? > I would imagine that Harry simply posted the item because it was about Linux, > it was in the 'fairly major' press and that it would be of interest to know > that the general public are now getting to know about Linux in a good light. > I can't find anything about the article which is untrue or un-newsworthy. > > Can we keep it neutral? Fair play to Harry for letting everyone know, it's good to see Linux getting more of a mention in the mainstream press, but the article was typical of the Record (and tabloids in general) in being light on real content. If you didn't know what Linux was, it was meaningless; it was also tucked away in a section called Tech Heads, which to me is somewhat of a derogatory phrase. Given the quality of the other two items included in the column, I'd hardly be inclined to give it the same level of credibility as, say, the Technology section that comes with Thursday's Grauniad, which routinely discusses Microsoft being twats and Linux being cool, et al. It's un-newsworthy because there's no real context or any real appeal to anyone who didn't already know about Ubuntu. The article might well have said "Blobby flangeracker Ubuntu is releasing a new melongramfer this week, which features improved sandwichratifier, plinkysandbanks, and updated jollyglingers" given the newspaper's target audience, which is hardly ABC1 to start with. The Record is also known as the Daily Ranger not without good reason, and given it's primary readership is in West and Central Scotland, it's not unfair to mention that many people aren't too keen on its position on certain things. I personally can't stand the fucking thing, but I simply show my disgust by never buying it :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
donothing successfully wrote: > [snip] > > It's right next to a bit about MS stopping support for 98/ME. caveat: *paid-for* support; self-help (i.e. getting updated bits and bobs for it, etc) will still operate until next year. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
On Friday 02 June 2006 19:20, Alistair Ross wrote: > On Friday 02 June 2006 17:11, willie wrote: > > If its in the Record its a lie :-) > > > > clicking on that link increases the Records advertising revenues btw > > > > Real Scots _won't_ read the Record > > Most tims boycott the Record and I believe those of the nasally blue > > persuasion aren't that keen on it either. > > Since when did this forum become subject to religious/political/commercial > bias? > > I would imagine that Harry simply posted the item because it was about > Linux, it was in the 'fairly major' press and that it would be of interest > to know that the general public are now getting to know about Linux in a > good light. I can't find anything about the article which is untrue or > un-newsworthy. > > Can we keep it neutral? > > Thanks > > Ali. Yes, you are quite right . I _was_ in rant mode Harry, my post was meant as no implied criticism of you in any way - apologies if it seemed that way -- All the best Willie ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
On Friday 02 June 2006 17:11, willie wrote: > If its in the Record its a lie :-) > > clicking on that link increases the Records advertising revenues btw > > Real Scots _won't_ read the Record > Most tims boycott the Record and I believe those of the nasally blue > persuasion aren't that keen on it either. Since when did this forum become subject to religious/political/commercial bias? I would imagine that Harry simply posted the item because it was about Linux, it was in the 'fairly major' press and that it would be of interest to know that the general public are now getting to know about Linux in a good light. I can't find anything about the article which is untrue or un-newsworthy. Can we keep it neutral? Thanks Ali. -- Check out The Ultimate Linux Newbie Guide [www.linuxnewbieguide.org] No nonsense beginners tutorial to choosing, installing and using Linux! ---[ Web Services Since 2002 ]-- Alistair Ross, CEO XBOLT Network --[ www.xbolt.net ]- ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
On Friday 02 June 2006 16:46, donothing successfully wrote: > Hi > > Ubuntu 6.06 gets a positive write-up in today's Daily Record: > http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sexandhealth/features/tm_objectid=17164816%26m >ethod=full%26siteid=66633-name_page.html does that mean Linux is ready for > the desktop? If its in the Record its a lie :-) clicking on that link increases the Records advertising revenues btw www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sexandhealth/features ^ sex and health?!?!?!!?! OK Ubuntu (or was it Kubuntu) had some scantily clad punters advertising stuff last year but I wouldnt put it in that cartegory. > > It's right next to a bit about MS stopping support for 98/ME. OK I might believe that > > regards > Harry > Real Scots _won't_ read the Record Most tims boycott the Record and I believe those of the nasally blue persuasion aren't that keen on it either. -- All the best Willie ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
