Re: Distinctions in Certification
GIAC is more technical than CISSP, which is more managerial. For a fuller descriptions on GIAG, check http://www.giac.org/ For a fuller description of the CISSP, check https://www.isc2.org/cgi/content.cgi?category=19 Jim Jarrod Loidl wrote: > > Whats the difference between the different security certifications? ie. > GIAC cert vs. CISSP? Whats the different in the eyes of the industry, as > well as prospective employers (if you are wanting to draw a distinction > between the two). > > -- > Jarrod Loidl > Network Abuse Engineer > Earthlink, Inc. > > --- > -- James W. Meritt CISSP, CISA Booz | Allen | Hamilton phone: (410) 684-6566 ---
RE: Distinctions in Certification
As fas as I believe, one difference will be the number of security domains that these certifications cover. CISSP covers all the domains, so if you are CISSP certified, no need to go for GIAC. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Cheers... -Original Message- From: Jarrod Loidl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Distinctions in Certification Whats the difference between the different security certifications? ie. GIAC cert vs. CISSP? Whats the different in the eyes of the industry, as well as prospective employers (if you are wanting to draw a distinction between the two). -- Jarrod Loidl Network Abuse Engineer Earthlink, Inc. --- ---
RE: Distinctions in Certification
I agree. I've had a few employees and interns that have certs, such as a 2k pro MCP. One of which I went to school with in the same classes... and he didn't know how to add a user. I've come to find that even someone with a bachelors degree in IT has no clue what a subnet mask is for. They remember reading about them.. Degrees and Certs don't mean anything other than they can absorb some information and retain it to take a test. The Hands On Experience is everything. ---
RE: Distinctions in Certification
I think the Cisco CCIE and Security Associates Institute ESA are good pratical courses. Regards C. Chai CCIE, ESA -Original Message- From: Jarrod Loidl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Distinctions in Certification Whats the difference between the different security certifications? ie. GIAC cert vs. CISSP? Whats the different in the eyes of the industry, as well as prospective employers (if you are wanting to draw a distinction between the two). -- Jarrod Loidl Network Abuse Engineer Earthlink, Inc. - -- - --- ---
RE: Distinctions in Certification
Well as someone who hires security staff, I look for hands-on real world experience. The CISSP and the rest are all too conceptual based, I've had students with these certs who do not know how to do fragmented port scans. >From my experience a pratical security certification such as the ESA from www.securityassociate.org really puts into practise text-book knowledge. We have around 20 ESA's at BT and are happy with the skills of the engineers. But nothing beats real world experience and no cert can give you this. Peter Baxter British Telecommunications PLC Head of Information Security - Europe and Asia Tel: +44 (0)20 450 5000 ext. 4456 [Email is spam protected] -Original Message- From: Jarrod Loidl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Distinctions in Certification Whats the difference between the different security certifications? ie. GIAC cert vs. CISSP? Whats the different in the eyes of the industry, as well as prospective employers (if you are wanting to draw a distinction between the two). -- Jarrod Loidl Network Abuse Engineer Earthlink, Inc. --- ---
RE: Distinctions in Certification
It is my understanding that the main difference is the cissp is knowledge from a management type of perspective while the giac certifications are usually more hands on with the actual technology. I have only lightly gone over what is needed for cissp, so I cannot be sure. I have however completed the sans gsec which now includes the cissp cbk, and am currently working on the gcih which so far has touched upon related subjects. -Original Message- From: Sadanapalli, Pradeep Kumar (MED, TCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:27 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Distinctions in Certification As fas as I believe, one difference will be the number of security domains that these certifications cover. CISSP covers all the domains, so if you are CISSP certified, no need to go for GIAC. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Cheers... -Original Message- From: Jarrod Loidl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Distinctions in Certification Whats the difference between the different security certifications? ie. GIAC cert vs. CISSP? Whats the different in the eyes of the industry, as well as prospective employers (if you are wanting to draw a distinction between the two). -- Jarrod Loidl Network Abuse Engineer Earthlink, Inc. --- --- ---
RE: Distinctions in Certification
Ernie is correct Regards, Greg DeGennaro Jr., CCNP Security Analyst -Original Message- From: Nelson, Ernie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Distinctions in Certification It is my understanding that the main difference is the cissp is knowledge from a management type of perspective while the giac certifications are usually more hands on with the actual technology. I have only lightly gone over what is needed for cissp, so I cannot be sure. I have however completed the sans gsec which now includes the cissp cbk, and am currently working on the gcih which so far has touched upon related subjects. -Original Message- From: Sadanapalli, Pradeep Kumar (MED, TCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:27 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Distinctions in Certification As fas as I believe, one difference will be the number of security domains that these certifications cover. CISSP covers all the domains, so if you are CISSP certified, no need to go for GIAC. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Cheers... -Original Message- From: Jarrod Loidl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Distinctions in Certification Whats the difference between the different security certifications? ie. GIAC cert vs. CISSP? Whats the different in the eyes of the industry, as well as prospective employers (if you are wanting to draw a distinction between the two). -- Jarrod Loidl Network Abuse Engineer Earthlink, Inc. --- --- --- ---
