RE: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS
Who cares about who invented what? The important thing is that Microsoft brought the apps and GUI to the user, so MSFT's OS and apps became a de facto standard. Credit to the guys who invented the first spreadsheet, the mouse or the GUI, but it remained in the vault for many years, while Bill and friends brought it to the masses and got a couple of $$$. It's great to be a hacker or a geek and invent great things, but you have to speak the customers' language if you want to be successful. -Original Message- From: Alan S. Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: zondag 29 april 2001 19:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS On 29 Apr 2001, at 19:06, Victor Firestone wrote: LOL, you might be right in regards Microsoft's ability to create technical advances - though I did take the definition for DOS from wepobedia at the following URL - http://www.pcwebopedia.com/TERM/D/DOS.html LOL...we think alike. In searching for an answer for Sajeev, I first went to the webopedia to get a listing of DOS sites. But they did not seem to fit the quest here, so then I searched on Google and found that page I referenced. I don't remember who it was, but I remember reading once a rant where someone made a great case against so called MS innovations noting that their IE browser was based on the same Mosaic software that Netscape based itself; MS had little to nothing to do with the development of the major protocols that ran the Internet and in point of fact, Bill Gates came to embrace the potential of the Internet quite late in modern Internet times; they did not originate any of the office programs you find in the standard Office Suite, such as the word processing and spreadsheet programs found in MS Office and even office-suite type programs had been around before MS brought one out; and as noted they did not conceive the idea of a DOS OS, nor for that matter, multi-tasking or graphical windows desktop software. There is nothing innovative about the Windows Desktop Operating System. Oh sure, MS has given us plenty of terrific improvements to the GUI Desktop, but they cannot be credited for inventing it. Microsoft's talents lie in exploiting technology by hiring some of the best talent in the country; by buying out technology already invented (if you can't beat 'em, buy 'em out); and by designing copycat type software to compete with the real thing, i.e. Virtual Java. It is like that commercial by some company who's name escapes me, where they exclaim, We don't make the products; we just make them better. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS
Hello Friends, Thank You all for replying. This mail is a reply to Mr. Pedro Carnet's post. As you suggested, I searched Encarta and got this among other things: Summary: Step 5: Identify your sources I've finished writing my paper. Now what? Whenever you use someone else's ideas or words in your report, you need to identify the source of the idea or quotation. That is, you need to give the original author proper credit. Doing so gives your report You actually mean this itself? Thank You, Sajeev.
RE: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS
Sajeev, The term DOS is an acronym for Disk Operating System. The term DOS can refer to any operating system, but it is most often used as a shorthand for MS-DOS (Microsoft disk operating system). Originally developed by Microsoft for IBM, MS-DOS was the standard operating system for IBM-compatible personal computers. The initial versions of DOS were very simple and resembled another operating system called CP/M. Subsequent versions have became increasingly sophisticated as they incorporated features of minicomputer operating systems. However, DOS is still a 16-bit operating system and does not support multiple users or multitasking. For some time, it has been widely acknowledged that DOS is insufficient for modern computer applications. Microsoft Windows helped alleviate some problems, but still, it sat on top of DOS and relied on DOS for many services. Even Windows 95 sat on top of DOS. Newer operating systems, such as Windows NT and OS/2 Warp, do not rely on DOS to the same extent, although they can execute DOS-based programs. It is expected that as these operating systems gain market share, DOS will eventually disappear. In the meantime, Caldera, Inc. markets a version of DOS called DR-OpenDOS that extends MS-DOS in significant ways. TTFN - Vic |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sajeev |Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 11:40 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS | | |Hello Friends, | |I am interested in knowing the origin of MS-DOS. |I seem to remember reading somewhere that Microsoft procured |DOS from a 'Seattle Hacker'. I don't clearly recall this term, |but I suppose 'Seattle' must be a place, may be in the US. | |Please accept my thanks in advance, | |Sajeev
Re: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS
Hi Sajeev, see the Encarta on-line and search for Microsoft. By the way the name of the hacker is Tim Paterson and the eoriginal DOS was QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System). Best regards, Pedro. --- Sajeev [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hello Friends, I am interested in knowing the origin of MS-DOS. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Microsoft procured DOS from a 'Seattle Hacker'. I don't clearly recall this term, but I suppose 'Seattle' must be a place, may be in the US. Please accept my thanks in advance, Sajeev. ___ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es
RE: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS
Alan, LOL, you might be right in regards Microsoft's ability to create technical advances - though I did take the definition for DOS from wepobedia at the following URL - http://www.pcwebopedia.com/TERM/D/DOS.html TTFN - Vic |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alan S. Harrell |Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 14:09 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS | | |On 29 Apr 2001, at 13:51, Victor Firestone wrote: | | The term DOS is an acronym for Disk Operating System. [...] | | Originally developed by Microsoft for IBM, MS-DOS was the standard | operating system for IBM-compatible personal computers. | |I am sorry, Victor, but if you study the history of MS closely, you |learn that MS never originated much of anything of a technical |advancement. | | |Alan |[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS
On 29 Apr 2001, at 19:06, Victor Firestone wrote: LOL, you might be right in regards Microsoft's ability to create technical advances - though I did take the definition for DOS from wepobedia at the following URL - http://www.pcwebopedia.com/TERM/D/DOS.html LOL...we think alike. In searching for an answer for Sajeev, I first went to the webopedia to get a listing of DOS sites. But they did not seem to fit the quest here, so then I searched on Google and found that page I referenced. I don't remember who it was, but I remember reading once a rant where someone made a great case against so called MS innovations noting that their IE browser was based on the same Mosaic software that Netscape based itself; MS had little to nothing to do with the development of the major protocols that ran the Internet and in point of fact, Bill Gates came to embrace the potential of the Internet quite late in modern Internet times; they did not originate any of the office programs you find in the standard Office Suite, such as the word processing and spreadsheet programs found in MS Office and even office-suite type programs had been around before MS brought one out; and as noted they did not conceive the idea of a DOS OS, nor for that matter, multi-tasking or graphical windows desktop software. There is nothing innovative about the Windows Desktop Operating System. Oh sure, MS has given us plenty of terrific improvements to the GUI Desktop, but they cannot be credited for inventing it. Microsoft's talents lie in exploiting technology by hiring some of the best talent in the country; by buying out technology already invented (if you can't beat 'em, buy 'em out); and by designing copycat type software to compete with the real thing, i.e. Virtual Java. It is like that commercial by some company who's name escapes me, where they exclaim, We don't make the products; we just make them better. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SaF] Origin of Microsoft DOS
Don't even THINK about coming here, Sajeev. Rains ALL the time, the traffic is beastly, and real estate is sky high. (But I'm not leaving.:) Mariah Yes, we think Seattle may be in the US, but we are not sure. g Kidding I think this page has the story you seek: http://saturn.spaceports.com/~dosuser/doshist.htm And Sajeev, Seattle is a large and thriving city in the state of Washington in the Pacific NW corner of the continental US. Take a visit upon the official web site of Seattle: http://www.ci.seattle.wa.us/ Redmond, Washington, the city where Microsoft is based, is a suburb of Seattle. http://www.sitesatlas.com/Maps/Maps/131.htm Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
