Re: [SMW-devel] SMW min version has changed (related to Special:Ask autocompletion)

2010-09-09 Thread Daniel Friesen 
1.17 has a new installer being worked on, which seams to both provide 
installation capabilities to command line (which previously only could 
do upgrades), and upgrade capabilities to the web interface (which 
previously could only do installation), so my guess is that by the time 
we get something that makes extension upgrade easier we'll already have 
something that makes MW upgrade easier. Unless of course you decide to 
modify the source code... not that WordPress and the other platforms 
with self-upgrade similar to what you are thinking of even support such 
a thing...

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Alex Kozak wrote:
> I'll be devil's advocate and say I think this is somewhat unfortunate. 
> But I do understand the reasons behind it.
>
> It's worth mentioning that sometimes upgrading MW can be "expensive" 
> for an organization, but not as much for an extension. And this will 
> be even more true when MediaWiki has an extension management interface 
> which will allow extension upgrades without having access or the 
> ability to upgrade the core platform.
>
> AK
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Markus Krötzsch 
>  > wrote:
>
> On 09/09/2010 18:49, Jeroen De Dauw wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> >  > Do you know what the minimal MW version is that SMW supports now?
> >
> > I just tested SMW trunk with MW 1.15.4, and it seems to be
> working fine
> > (I ran a query on Special:Ask without problems). So I'd say this
> is not
> > an issue, as you should simply not be running any older MW
> version anyway.
>
> I agree. We still need to update our installation instructions to
> clarify that SMW supports only MW 1.15 and greater now. I'll send note
> to the user list, too.
>
> --Markus
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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW min version has changed (related to Special:Ask autocompletion)

2010-09-09 Thread Alex Kozak 
I'll be devil's advocate and say I think this is somewhat unfortunate. But I
do understand the reasons behind it.

It's worth mentioning that sometimes upgrading MW can be "expensive" for an
organization, but not as much for an extension. And this will be even more
true when MediaWiki has an extension management interface which will allow
extension upgrades without having access or the ability to upgrade the core
platform.

AK

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Markus Krötzsch <
mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:

> On 09/09/2010 18:49, Jeroen De Dauw wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> >  > Do you know what the minimal MW version is that SMW supports now?
> >
> > I just tested SMW trunk with MW 1.15.4, and it seems to be working fine
> > (I ran a query on Special:Ask without problems). So I'd say this is not
> > an issue, as you should simply not be running any older MW version
> anyway.
>
> I agree. We still need to update our installation instructions to
> clarify that SMW supports only MW 1.15 and greater now. I'll send note
> to the user list, too.
>
> --Markus
>
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --
> > Jeroen De Dauw
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> > * http://wiki.bn2vs.com
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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW min version has changed (related to Special:Ask autocompletion)

2010-09-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch 
On 09/09/2010 18:49, Jeroen De Dauw wrote:
> Hey,
>
>  > Do you know what the minimal MW version is that SMW supports now?
>
> I just tested SMW trunk with MW 1.15.4, and it seems to be working fine
> (I ran a query on Special:Ask without problems). So I'd say this is not
> an issue, as you should simply not be running any older MW version anyway.

I agree. We still need to update our installation instructions to 
clarify that SMW supports only MW 1.15 and greater now. I'll send note 
to the user list, too.

--Markus

>
> Cheers
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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW min version has changed (related to Special:Ask autocompletion)

2010-09-09 Thread Jeroen De Dauw 
Hey,

> Do you know what the minimal MW version is that SMW supports now?

I just tested SMW trunk with MW 1.15.4, and it seems to be working fine (I
ran a query on Special:Ask without problems). So I'd say this is not an
issue, as you should simply not be running any older MW version anyway.

Cheers

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[SMW-devel] SMW min version has changed (related to Special:Ask autocompletion)

2010-09-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch 
I just noticed that SMW 1.5.2 does not work with MediaWiki 1.11* as 
claimed. The reason for this is the method OutputPage::addExtensionStyle 
that is now called in Special:Ask. I think this was introduced in 
relation to the new autocompletion features.

I think this is okay (MW 1.16.0 works) but we need to be explicit about 
the supported versions.

Yaron, can you confirm that this is related to the autocompletion code? 
Do you know what the minimal MW version is that SMW supports now?

Cheers,

Markus

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