Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered
On 20 June 2013 20:32, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: As for whether storing the index, whether it's part of the subobject name or in a Has index property, changes the data model - I don't think it does. I think that could work as long as you do not change the identity of the subobject. I.e. these additional properties should not be stored in the hash directly nor used to produce the hash. You can simply ignore the index value; I would just think of it as additional data that can either be used or not. If you didn't like my Modification date example, how about this: the subobject hash itself is some additional, SMW-only data that gets added to each row, but that doesn't affect the data model either. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Replacement for Wiki of the Month Coordinator
Is that possible to create a working group for defining Wiki of the Month or do that collaboratively? Some people would want to judge but they don't have enough disipline to do that every month. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Hi Desiree, first to the second part of your message: this is really great news, congratulations! The not-so-great news (though it hardly matches the other) is that we now need somebody to step up as WOTM coordinator. Before we worry about that, let me first thank you for your work -- you did a truly wonderful job on this. WOTM makes a great contribution to SMW, both as a resource for people to learn about SMW and for projects to showcase their sites. When we started this feature in 2010, we were not sure if this would continue for more than a year -- already back then, it has not always been easy to find suitable candidates for each month. You managed to keep the series running, and I was often impressed by the variety of great sites you (and Yaron) came up with. By today, WOTM is not just a catalogue of SMW sites but a showcase of original and inspiring community projects from around the world. I really hope that we can find somebody to continue this success story. (To those who consider becoming volunteers: just ask us if you are not sure what this job requires.) So thanks again, Desiree, and all the best wishes to the three of you, Markus On 03/06/13 19:14, Desiree Gennaro wrote: Hello Everyone, Unfortunately, I am going to need to find a new volunteer to take over coordinating the featured wiki of the month starting in August. My husband and I will be welcoming the birth of our first child, Carly, in early September. I know myself and Yaron will be available to answer any questions and provide guidance as needed to make the transition go more smoothly. Anyone who is interested can send an email to wikiofthemo...@semantic-mediawiki.org and I will gladly answer any questions or provide any additional information requested. Best Regards, Desiree Gennaro -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Replacement for Wiki of the Month Coordinator
On 21/06/13 13:46, Yury Katkov wrote: Is that possible to create a working group for defining Wiki of the Month or do that collaboratively? Some people would want to judge but they don't have enough disipline to do that every month. In any case we need a person who is in charge -- many people without discipline do not replace one person with ;-). If two people want to share the task and be in charge every other month, this would also work, but it should be clear for each month who is making sure that there is a WOTM. I suggest to first find the new coordinator(s), and then let her/him/them consider new voting approaches if they think it makes sense. Markus On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Hi Desiree, first to the second part of your message: this is really great news, congratulations! The not-so-great news (though it hardly matches the other) is that we now need somebody to step up as WOTM coordinator. Before we worry about that, let me first thank you for your work -- you did a truly wonderful job on this. WOTM makes a great contribution to SMW, both as a resource for people to learn about SMW and for projects to showcase their sites. When we started this feature in 2010, we were not sure if this would continue for more than a year -- already back then, it has not always been easy to find suitable candidates for each month. You managed to keep the series running, and I was often impressed by the variety of great sites you (and Yaron) came up with. By today, WOTM is not just a catalogue of SMW sites but a showcase of original and inspiring community projects from around the world. I really hope that we can find somebody to continue this success story. (To those who consider becoming volunteers: just ask us if you are not sure what this job requires.) So thanks again, Desiree, and all the best wishes to the three of you, Markus On 03/06/13 19:14, Desiree Gennaro wrote: Hello Everyone, Unfortunately, I am going to need to find a new volunteer to take over coordinating the featured wiki of the month starting in August. My husband and I will be welcoming the birth of our first child, Carly, in early September. I know myself and Yaron will be available to answer any questions and provide guidance as needed to make the transition go more smoothly. Anyone who is interested can send an email to wikiofthemo...@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:wikiofthemo...@semantic-mediawiki.org and I will gladly answer any questions or provide any additional information requested. Best Regards, Desiree Gennaro -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] Importing and exporting RDF
We would like to set up a semantic wiki to make changes to an ontology. It needs to be able to import an RDF and then make changes to the entities and properties then export it back out. Online I saw a little talk about an extension - Ontology Import but it did not look promising. What would people suggest for importing/exporting ontologies? Thank, Mary -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Importing and exporting RDF
I also would love to hear anyone's experience in collaborative RDF\OWL ontology creation and support in SMW. I personally recommend OntoWiki for this task, but maybe it's because of lack of expertise. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Beebe, Mary J bee...@battelle.org wrote: We would like to set up a semantic wiki to make changes to an ontology. It needs to be able to import an RDF and then make changes to the entities and properties then export it back out. Online I saw a little talk about an extension - Ontology Import but it did not look promising. What would people suggest for importing/exporting ontologies? Thank, Mary -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered
Hi, Okay - so there's at least some consensus for keeping the subobject hash as it is. That means that, for subobjects to be sortable by entry order, I think there would have to be a separate special property, called Has index or Has number or something, that would store the index of each subobject on the page. However, there are a few weaknesses to that approach that I can think of: - Creating a new special property takes some development work - including, possibly, creating a new database table? - Subobjects won't be sorted automatically; whoever creates each query will have to remember to add sort=Has index to the query. - Because of the way sort= works (it removes all items that don't have that property), it will cause some confusion for wikis starting to use the new code: subobjects that don't have Has index set yet will simply not show up in sorted queries. For these reasons, I'm leaning heavily toward just changing Semantic Internal Objects to use hashes like #001, #002, etc. again, like it used to do. That way, users will have a choice of naming schemes. And it somewhat fits in with the different philosophies of SMW/subobjects vs. SIO: in SMW, such objects can have their own name and identity, while in SIO, they're really only attributes of the page on which they're defined. -Yaron On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Stephan Gambke s7ep...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 June 2013 20:32, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: As for whether storing the index, whether it's part of the subobject name or in a Has index property, changes the data model - I don't think it does. I think that could work as long as you do not change the identity of the subobject. I.e. these additional properties should not be stored in the hash directly nor used to produce the hash. You can simply ignore the index value; I would just think of it as additional data that can either be used or not. If you didn't like my Modification date example, how about this: the subobject hash itself is some additional, SMW-only data that gets added to each row, but that doesn't affect the data model either. -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
