Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic Extra Property Types?

2013-07-15 Thread Yury Katkov
Hi Leo!
The duration would be good. I usually need the hybrid "number-string" type
with complex sorting for values like "2-5 years" or "2A-4/323"
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Leonard Wallentin <
leo_wallen...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> we already have extensions like Semantic Result Formats, Semantic Forms
> Input and Semantic Extra Special Properties to gather useful but less
> common formats. Would it make sense to create a similar collection of extra
> *types* (possibly moving less used existing ones, like temperature, from
> SMW core to the extension)? Are there some types that are commonly
> requested?
>
> As for me, I'm missing duration (like [[Cooking time::1h]] or [[Personal
> best::01:09.48]]). I realize that localization will be difficult for that
> one, but at least ISO 8601 (PT6M4S) and a few commonly occuring formats
> (08:42.00, 8時42分, 8 h 42 min, etc) might be possible to implement. Are
> there other possible types that are missing out there (that someone
> actually needs)?
>
> /Leo
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[SMW-devel] Semantic Extra Property Types?

2013-07-15 Thread Leonard Wallentin
Hello,
we already have extensions like Semantic Result Formats, Semantic Forms Input 
and Semantic Extra Special Properties to gather useful but less common formats. 
Would it make sense to create a similar collection of extra types (possibly 
moving less used existing ones, like temperature, from SMW core to the 
extension)? Are there some types that are commonly requested?
As for me, I'm missing duration (like [[Cooking time::1h]] or [[Personal 
best::01:09.48]]). I realize that localization will be difficult for that one, 
but at least ISO 8601 (PT6M4S) and a few commonly occuring formats (08:42.00, 
8時42分, 8 h 42 min, etc) might be possible to implement. Are there other 
possible types that are missing out there (that someone actually needs)?
/Leo

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Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services

2013-07-15 Thread Joel Natividad
Hi All,
We're actually getting some work done on Maps v2.x right now which we hope
to "forwardport" to v3. Mostly polygon related stuff - smart labeling,
hover, additional layers, autocenter, etc.

During SMWCon, one attendee made a strong case for SMW being a great GIS
CMS/KMS.  Maybe we can round-up people to sponsor extended Maps/Semantic
Maps to make this a reality.

Especially now that MySQL 5.6, MariaDB 5.5 and MongoDB 2.4 have geospatial
capabilities that should allow a lot of very interesting ask queries if the
SMW geographic coordinate type took advantage of these technologies.

http://www.slideshare.net/henrikingo/spatial-functions-in-mysql-56-mariadb-55-postgis-20-and-others

FYI, we actually contributed some patches to ExternalData to return MongoDB
GeoJSON polygons in a format that can be used with Maps (see nycpedia.com),
but it still feels like a hack and we'd love to do ask queries like, what's
inside, next, within, intersects, disjoint, crosses, contains polygon/POI
which are now possible in MySQL 5.6, MariaDB 5.5 and MongoDB 2.4.

Perhaps some additional SMW geospatial types beyond geographic coordinate?
 A place type defined by a polygon? Maybe this could be the integration
point to start going towards a shared featureset with WikiData?

We even looked at Extension:GeoData which now stores coordinates and powers
Mediawiki Nearby Places, but its still storing latlongs as MySQL float
fields.

Best,
Joel

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On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote:

> Hey Bernhard,
>
> I could work on Maps in my free time but am not doing so as there are
> other more interesting projects at hand. You can of course hire me to work
> on it, as is true for any MediaWiki or PHP work. Since I'd like to see my
> first extension to continue being developed, I also consider doing this
> substantially below my usual rate (depending on the exact things that need
> to be done).
>
> Of course you can hire other developers to work on it. I'd love to see
> good work happen without my involvement. Unfortunately the code quality of
> the extension is not the best, neither is the overall design, and it is
> lacking tests for the most part. Plus it is hopelessly intermingled with
> MediaWiki all over, while most of it could be independent from MW. I'm
> hoping this can improve so it becomes a well crafted, clean and throughly
> tested piece of software that can be worked on without having much
> knowledge of MediaWiki. If you hire someone to work on it, please make sure
> they don't go in the other direction.
>
>
> Cheers
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