[Server-devel] Congratulations - Some questions

2009-10-09 Thread Rangan Srikhanta
Martin et al,

 

Congratulations. This is remarkable step forward and I am pleased to see the
progress. I look forward to the potential of a version 1.0 with all the
bells and whistles, (don't know when that will be) to rollout to our
deployments. Things noted so far:

 

-  Ease of install

-  Reliability of presence (only noted with four XOs, but a thorough
100+ XO test is likely to occur on Monday)

-  Auto-magic, heard/read so much about it, it's great to see it
working.

 

We will be rolling out over 500 XO laptops across six deployment sites in
the next couple of months. I am thinking that rolling out the XS in some
form may be an option for one of the states we are rolling out to.

 

Some questions (sorry if they seem silly, I've lost track of the XS
development process):

-  How many XOs can be connected to an XS? 60, 120, 250?

-  What is the deal with XOs to AP ratios, we are using WRT54GLs, is
it 20 XOs per AP? Or is it potentially much more. 

-  Some issues with changing the Administrator name as well as XO
color, when the XO has already been registered, is that functionality there?
(e.g. I named one XO, Barack, it was the first to register and then connect
to moodle, but now I want to change the XO's name in moodle to Administrator
and the XO Icon).

 

Again, I am so pleased with this progress, we are going to Australia's most
remote school in two weeks, 50 XOs being deployed there and I'd love to have
the XS up and running there.

 

Thank you,

 

Rangan

 

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Re: [Server-devel] fresh XS 0.6 install

2009-10-09 Thread Tim Moody
OK, so the message is don't worry about first boot. 
/var/log/moodle-instupg.log ends in success.

the next problem is that when I try to register the qemu emulated xo 8.2.0 
it fails, probably because qemu has a built in dhcp server and nat firewall, 
so the xo never gets it address, dns, and domain from the xs and therefore 
can't find the xs.

ping schoolserver yields unknown host
ping schoolserver.testschool.org gets correct ip (172.18.0.1) but can't 
reach it
browse can reach the internet through the xs
and the xo update also works

has anyone tried the tap interface?

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Langhoff" 
To: "Tim Moody" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Server-devel] fresh XS 0.6 install


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Tim Moody  wrote:
> fresh 0.6 install went smoothly except for
>
> still says Moodle must be installed or upgraded

Strange! What does /var/log/moodle-instupg.log say? Does it end in
success or failure? If failure... attach...

Or does it say it during the first boot? That would be the normal way
of things...

> have the install instructions been overly pruned? the ejabberd admin
> password set up is gone. is it still required?

Nope, it is gone -- for good! :-)

> are you planning for the next release to prompt for domain and maybe
> ejabberd admin password during install as timezone and root password are?

Only for domain, and inside of Moodle if possible, so all the rest is 
automated.

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] fresh XS 0.6 install

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Tim Moody  wrote:
> fresh 0.6 install went smoothly except for
>
> still says Moodle must be installed or upgraded

Strange! What does /var/log/moodle-instupg.log say? Does it end in
success or failure? If failure... attach...

Or does it say it during the first boot? That would be the normal way
of things...

> have the install instructions been overly pruned?  the ejabberd admin
> password set up is gone.  is it still required?

Nope, it is gone -- for good! :-)

> are you planning for the next release to prompt for domain and maybe
> ejabberd admin password during install as timezone and root password are?

Only for domain, and inside of Moodle if possible, so all the rest is automated.

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] another distro?

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Devon Connolly  wrote:
> How about Gentoo?  Can't beat portage.

I am still trying to compile an answer for that...

:-)



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Re: [Server-devel] another distro?

2009-10-09 Thread Devon Connolly
How about Gentoo?  Can't beat portage.


On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:01:35 -, Sameer Verma  wrote:

> Now that we have XS 0.6 in the "Stable", I'll raise the issue once
> more. Are we at a point in development where we can reassess the issue
> of basing the XS on other distros such as Debian stable or Ubuntu LTS?
>
> Sameer


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[Server-devel] fresh XS 0.6 install

2009-10-09 Thread Tim Moody
fresh 0.6 install went smoothly except for

still says Moodle must be installed or upgraded, but probably bogus because 
pgsql is running and client pc in lan net gets moodle login from school 
server.

have the install instructions been overly pruned?  the ejabberd admin 
password set up is gone.  is it still required?

are you planning for the next release to prompt for domain and maybe 
ejabberd admin password during install as timezone and root password are? 

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Re: [Server-devel] another distro?

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Sameer Verma  wrote:
> Now that we have XS 0.6 in the "Stable", I'll raise the issue once
> more. Are we at a point in development where we can reassess the issue
> of basing the XS on other distros such as Debian stable or Ubuntu LTS?

It is definitely quite a bit more work to switch distros :-)

Personally I am "over the hump" with Fedora skills -- my rpm knowledge
came back after many (8?) years of neglect, and I now know a ton more
than I ever did.

If someone does repackage all the xs packages debian format, and shows
that there is a workable means of building an installer and
controlling the installation, I am all ears.

An added bit of work will be to repackage and reimplement the
kernel+initramfs magic that I plan to reuse from the XO OS team, so we
can run XS on XO-1 and XO-1.5 -- those two will need very different
kernels and initramfsen. And the "reimplement" bit won't be easy:
initramfs implementations are in flux on both sides, guaranteeing a
ton of fun and sleepless nights.

The upside -- of course! -- is the path to LTS. I wish I knew where it was...



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Re: [Server-devel] XS upgrade

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/10/9 Martin Langhoff :
> Yes, you can access it from other computers. I am writing how to do
> this in http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=XS_Techniques_and_Configuration

Several good Moodle tips here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Techniques_and_Configuration#Moodle

Note note note!!! Right now Moodle works very well... for users who
are familiar with Moodle. For newcomers, it is pretty daunting... I am
planning to disable / hide a lot of the functionality and simplify
things.

What does this mean to users on XS 0.6?

 - Let me know what Moodle modules and blocks you are using and how. I
intend to keep the most useful bits, so the better I know what's
useful...

 - If you use the more esoteric or advanced modules, you may have to
re-enable them after the upgrade to 0.7 :-)

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] XS upgrade

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/10/9 Henry Vélez Molina :
> Thanks. I will work with 6.0 version from scratch can I manage moodle from
> any computer? or it is only for the XOs

Yes, you can access it from other computers. I am writing how to do
this in http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=XS_Techniques_and_Configuration

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[Server-devel] another distro?

2009-10-09 Thread Sameer Verma
Now that we have XS 0.6 in the "Stable", I'll raise the issue once
more. Are we at a point in development where we can reassess the issue
of basing the XS on other distros such as Debian stable or Ubuntu LTS?

Sameer
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[Server-devel] Working on the XS F11 rebase

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
Working on...

Packages:

* idmgr - rebuilt
* usbmont
* pam_sotp -- help! doesn't build
* ds-backup
* ejabberd - rebuilt
** consider rebasing on 2.0.5, this will require remerging and
retesting @online@ patches
* fakeroot & fakechroot: F11 has current versions
* kernel-xs: we'll have to get XO-1 and XO-1.5 kernels and initrds...
* moodle-xs
* olpc-contents: (or equivalent for bitfrost libs)
* rssh - looks good on F11
* xs-activation
* xs-activity-server
* xs-config (lot of work to do!)
* xs-logos
* xs-pkgs: replace w groups (how? help!)
* xs-release (have an intermediate one?)
* xs-rsync
* xs-tools
* olpc-bios-crypto
* xs-otp
* xs-callhome

Plus:
* Get a usable installer build from revisor or pungi
* Test this thing!

You can track it on
http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=User:Martinlanghoff/XS_F11_rebase_ToDo

cheers,



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[Server-devel] rebuilding pam_sotp -- __stack_chk_fail_local ?

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Douglas,

do you remember this issue? Did you managed to get it built somehow?
http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-October/msg02908.html

We did end up with a F9 rpm, but I can't remember how it happened. The
rebuild for F11 is hitting the same prob...

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