Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] [Off Topic] More Linux users facing skype issues
I have been testing the Ventrilo server on my XO1.5 XSCE and it works well. With connection from AP to schoolserver via my Android phone and window machines I can have voice conversation. There is no Ventrilo client for Linux. Have not been able to run the alternative Mumble client on the XO. Nice if XO can then be used for the voice communication as it will get 8 children/teachers highly excited. Cheers >-Original Message- >From: Anish Mangal [mailto:anis...@umich.edu] >Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 01:06 AM >To: 'xsce-devel', 'server-devel' >Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] [Off Topic] More Linux users facing skype >issues > >This will be my last message on this thread, and am cc-ing server-devel (as >was originally done), *but removing all the quoted text/history. *The >purpose is to sum all the skype alternatives provided. The server-devel is >an open mailing list so there will be a publicly-accessible link unlike >xsce-devel. I didn't know where to put this on the wiki. > >Alternatives to skype suggested in this thread: > >1. Tox (https://tox.chat/) - Generally works well, except bad Android >support at the moment. No browser based client afaik. > >2. Ring (https://ring.cx/) - Is supported on all platforms including >Android. No browser based client. > >3. Mumble - Widely used, well supported > >4. SIP - Widely used, well supported. Browser client is available. > >5. Jitsi (https://jitsi.org/) - Apps for Windoze, Linux, OSX, but not >Android. Browser client available. > >6. Firefox hello (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/?v=b) > >7. Ventrilo (http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php) > >8. BigBlueButton (http://bigbluebutton.org/) - Seems more targeted to >distance education > >9. Hangouts - Widely used, no native clients, proprietary > > >Apologies if I missed any! > >-- >Anish > >P.S. skype-web is unsupported on Linux. For reference, see the description >here - >https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skype/lifbcibllhkdhoafpjfnlhfpfgnpldfl > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork?
Profound thanks to Peter Robinson for holding up the fort -- even if he
Can't join all of us for the amazing http://linuxfestnorthwest.org North of
Seattle in 2+ weeks, where Fedora will very well represented!
Still, if Peter's available this year to put on his makeup in the
Australian desert, he should be #1 on our list when Unleash Kids restarts
our video interviews across the OLPC/Sugar community(*)
(*) or post-OLPC/Sugar community to keep the gloomy depressives solidly
hooked+loyal...as sky-is-falling negativity sells right off the charts
according to this Mr T guy whose building in NYC I keep walking by...he
even has red ballcaps imprinted with "Make the Internet Great Again" to
fund us apparently ;)
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>
> > On April 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM Peter Robinson
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> > >> On April 6, 2016 at 8:46 AM Tim Moody wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jerry could list the problems he's aware of.
> > >>
> > >
> > > For F23+ we have some ansible issues out of the box:
> > >
> > > https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/126
> >
> > There's a work around for that in the ticket
> > https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/126#comment:5
> >
>
> Yes I know, I added the required rpms to %packages before ansible is called
> in %post[1]. I'm using livecd-creator for F23, looking to switch over to
> lorax for F24, just waiting to see how things shakeout rich_deps/dnf wise.
>
> > > Along with some early dnf dependency resolution issues, I don't recall
> > > the
> > > full details of, think it is related to the use of repoquery --alldeps.
> >
> > For aarch64? Any issues there please come to the arm mailing list or
> > IRC channel #fedora-arm and ask so we can fix them. They're generally
> > transitorary but if not we need to know about it.
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/a...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >
>
> No, not just aarch64, dnf in general, while building live-F23isos I was
> facing dependency resolution issues when adding devel rpm packages to the
> build via ansible. The workaround I used was to declare the devel rpms in
> %packages, letting yum(via livecd-creator) deal with the dependencies. For
> example:
> ---
> TASK: [xsce-admin | Install packages for cmdsrv]
> **
> failed: [127.0.0.1] =>
>
> (item=gcc,gcc-c++,php-devel,php-pear,python-devel,python-pip,zeromq3-devel,cracklib-python)
> => {"changed": true, "item":
>
> "gcc,gcc-c++,php-devel,php-pear,python-devel,python-pip,zeromq3-devel,cracklib-python",
> "rc": 1, "results": ["python-pip-6.0.8-1.fc22.noarch providing python-pip
> is already installed", "Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:52
> ago on Tue Apr 5 14:15:34 2016.\n(try to add '--allowerasing' to command
> line to replace conflicting packages)\n"]}
> msg: Yum command has been deprecated, redirecting to '/usr/bin/dnf -d 2 -y
> install gcc gcc-c++ php-devel php-pear python-devel zeromq3-devel
> cracklib-python'.
> See 'man dnf' and 'man yum2dnf' for more information.
> To transfer transaction metadata from yum to DNF, run:
> 'dnf install python-dnf-plugins-extras-migrate && dnf-2 migrate'
>
> Error: package php-devel-5.6.8-1.fc22.i686 requires php-cli(x86-32) =
> 5.6.8-1.fc22, but none of the providers can be installed
>
>
>
> The above error is typical of what I was seeing on F23, this is a 64bit box
> should be 32bit free unless asked to install i686. I haven't tried a F23
> respin lately, might be much better today. Now in the last week a respin of
> F22 was acting as above, but doesn't occur today. The latest updates
> corrected the issue, just not sure which one caused this issue for me. I'm
> just glad it's resolved now.
>
> Jerry
>
> 1.
> https://github.com/XSCE/xsce/blob/master/installer/livecd/Fedora-23/ks.cfg
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @
>
> http://unleashkids.org !
>
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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] [Off Topic] More Linux users facing skype issues
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > >> This will be my last message on this thread, and am cc-ing server-devel >> (as was originally done), *but removing all the quoted text/history. *The >> purpose is to sum all the skype alternatives provided. The server-devel is >> an open mailing list so there will be a publicly-accessible link unlike >> xsce-devel. I didn't know where to put this on the wiki. >> >> Alternatives to skype suggested in this thread: >> >> 1. Tox (https://tox.chat/) - Generally works well, except bad Android >> support at the moment. No browser based client afaik. >> >> 2. Ring (https://ring.cx/) - Is supported on all platforms including >> Android. No browser based client. >> >> 3. Mumble - Widely used, well supported >> >> 4. SIP - Widely used, well supported. Browser client is available. >> >> 5. Jitsi (https://jitsi.org/) - Apps for Windoze, Linux, OSX, but not >> Android. Browser client available. >> >> 6. Firefox hello (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/?v=b) >> >> 7. Ventrilo (http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php) >> >> 8. BigBlueButton (http://bigbluebutton.org/) - Seems more targeted to >> distance education >> >> 9. Hangouts - Widely used, no native clients, proprietary >> >> >> Apologies if I missed any! >> > > A "complete" list is not possible as we know! The following 3 are > extremely popular serving very similar roles -- community team-building > moving above and beyond just transient anarchist gossip, with human-centric > workflows/pacing/searchability for all kinds of people -- one day FLOSS > communities might even wake up and demonstrate leadership here: (Hope > Springs Eternal!!) > > a. http://slack.com reduces the barrage of pointless emails, by > refocusing work on actual collegial teams. Demonstrates an excellent > understanding of how small teams actually work together (Margaret Mead > meets the 21st century at last?!) Sometimes used in combination with > Trello.com for larger/distributed project management that truly need to > scale. Slack is described in an excellent 21min "radio" show yesterday @ > http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/5/11368864/slack-app-messaging-how-to -- > apparently this is now the fastest-growing enterprise software of all > time. And as such is now leaving the enterprise, used by all sorts of > civic clubs, non-profits, fraternities/sororities/whatever! Our good > friends FLOSS group KidsOnComputers.org (who bring many computers to India, > Morocco, Mexico etc) experienced a great increase in productivity when they > adopted Slack. Slack integrates shockingly well with most other software, > including Skype/irc, upon which some say it is based (similar idea to irc > channels anyway). http://google.com/nonprofits is no doubt feeling the > heat from Slack's blow-away success at bringing civic-minded doers together > (but cannot say so publicly ;) > > b. http://telegram.me used by ISIS and human rights groups, seems it does > not yet support voice or a GUI buddy-list? Fedora folks seem to love it, > and have good success, being heads-down style workers who have less need > for sociable media? Recently expanded from a 1000-user limit to a > 5000-user limit. Telegram is definitely going somewhere but I'm not sure > where. Reports would be awesome from folks who've used it on a long-term > basis? > > c. http://whatsapp.com by Facebook that is nearly ubiquitous across the > developing world (but not yet the US/Canada/EU, as a result of SMS being so > cheap) and supports end-to-end encryption since yesterday for those who > care about playing cat+mouse with the NSA (I do, since I believe we must > always watch the watchmen, but I admit the vast majority of the planet does > not give a damn ;) I could not have been more impressed by teachers who > built their own WhatsApp in-school networks in Ghana completely on their > own (not unlike a mailing list or GHangout) to build solidarity and > exchange lesson plan tips. > Aside: How many days until the NSA/Israel/China/Russia circumvent WhatsApp encryption? We'll probably never know unless they Tweet! History was made yesterday regardless, dramatically rebalancing of power between corrupt police forces/citizen groups/corporations/mafias in developing countries in way we cannot predict...and regressing countries too: http://www.wired.com/2016/04/forget-apple-vs-fbi-whatsapp-just-switched-encryption-billion-people/ I should be using all 3 above, but I confess I am not yet. Our growing > Haitian team is more than familiar with Skype & GHangouts, and will > probably begin experimenting with all 3 above to see what efficiencies > (more like it, completely different *qualitative* ways of looking at > productivity) we can deliver. OpenStreetMap mentions even more options > below, if you can sort out the wheat from the chaff: (warning, endless > passive-aggressive bike-shaving / yak-shedding) > > https://lists.openst
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] [Off Topic] More Linux users facing skype issues
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > This will be my last message on this thread, and am cc-ing server-devel > (as was originally done), *but removing all the quoted text/history. *The > purpose is to sum all the skype alternatives provided. The server-devel is > an open mailing list so there will be a publicly-accessible link unlike > xsce-devel. I didn't know where to put this on the wiki. > > Alternatives to skype suggested in this thread: > > 1. Tox (https://tox.chat/) - Generally works well, except bad Android > support at the moment. No browser based client afaik. > > 2. Ring (https://ring.cx/) - Is supported on all platforms including > Android. No browser based client. > > 3. Mumble - Widely used, well supported > > 4. SIP - Widely used, well supported. Browser client is available. > > 5. Jitsi (https://jitsi.org/) - Apps for Windoze, Linux, OSX, but not > Android. Browser client available. > > 6. Firefox hello (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/?v=b) > > 7. Ventrilo (http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php) > > 8. BigBlueButton (http://bigbluebutton.org/) - Seems more targeted to > distance education > > 9. Hangouts - Widely used, no native clients, proprietary > > > Apologies if I missed any! > A "complete" list is not possible as we know! The following 3 are extremely popular serving very similar roles -- community team-building moving above and beyond just transient anarchist gossip, with human-centric workflows/pacing/searchability for all kinds of people -- one day FLOSS communities might even wake up and demonstrate leadership here: (Hope Springs Eternal!!) a. http://slack.com reduces the barrage of pointless emails, by refocusing work on actual collegial teams. Demonstrates an excellent understanding of how small teams actually work together (Margaret Mead meets the 21st century at last?!) Sometimes used in combination with Trello.com for larger/distributed project management that truly need to scale. Slack is described in an excellent 21min "radio" show yesterday @ http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/5/11368864/slack-app-messaging-how-to -- apparently this is now the fastest-growing enterprise software of all time. And as such is now leaving the enterprise, used by all sorts of civic clubs, non-profits, fraternities/sororities/whatever! Our good friends FLOSS group KidsOnComputers.org (who bring many computers to India, Morocco, Mexico etc) experienced a great increase in productivity when they adopted Slack. Slack integrates shockingly well with most other software, including Skype/irc, upon which some say it is based (similar idea to irc channels anyway). http://google.com/nonprofits is no doubt feeling the heat from Slack's blow-away success at bringing civic-minded doers together (but cannot say so publicly ;) b. http://telegram.me used by ISIS and human rights groups, seems it does not yet support voice or a GUI buddy-list? Fedora folks seem to love it, and have good success, being heads-down style workers who have less need for sociable media? Recently expanded from a 1000-user limit to a 5000-user limit. Telegram is definitely going somewhere but I'm not sure where. Reports would be awesome from folks who've used it on a long-term basis? c. http://whatsapp.com by Facebook that is nearly ubiquitous across the developing world (but not yet the US/Canada/EU, as a result of SMS being so cheap) and supports end-to-end encryption since yesterday for those who care about playing cat+mouse with the NSA (I do, since I believe we must always watch the watchmen, but I admit the vast majority of the planet does not give a damn ;) I could not have been more impressed by teachers who built their own WhatsApp in-school networks in Ghana completely on their own (not unlike a mailing list or GHangout) to build solidarity and exchange lesson plan tips. I should be using all 3 above, but I confess I am not yet. Our growing Haitian team is more than familiar with Skype & GHangouts, and will probably begin experimenting with all 3 above to see what efficiencies (more like it, completely different *qualitative* ways of looking at productivity) we can deliver. OpenStreetMap mentions even more options below, if you can sort out the wheat from the chaff: (warning, endless passive-aggressive bike-shaving / yak-shedding) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2016-March/thread.html#75792 (March 2016) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2016-April/thread.html#75832 (April 2016) -- > Anish > > P.S. skype-web is unsupported on Linux. For reference, see the description > here - > https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skype/lifbcibllhkdhoafpjfnlhfpfgnpldfl > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork?
Jerry could list the problems he's aware of. But if you can get 64bit F24 running on Pine64, then you can use https://github.com/XSCE/xsce/wiki/XSCE-Installation#do-everything-from-scratch to install XSCE with ansible. At that point you can tell us what works and what doesn't. I ordered mine in Feb and am still waiting for delivery. > -Original Message- > From: Peter Robinson [mailto:pbrobin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 9:38 AM > To: Tim Moody > Cc: xsce-de...@googlegroups.com; Adam Holt ; server- > devel > Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most > ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork? > > Not sure how they do that. If it's done with something like ansible it would > be very easy to migrate to new releases. > > Peter > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > > Jerry and George spent a lot of time migrating legacy XS code from F18 to > F22. There is more work to get to F24. I agree that we want to get there. > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Peter Robinson [mailto:pbrobin...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 6:42 AM > >> To: Tim Moody > >> Cc: xsce-de...@googlegroups.com; Adam Holt ; > server- > >> devel > >> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) > >> most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork? > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > >> > For xsce I'd start with f22. You can look at the rpi images on > >> > xsce.org/downloads > >> > >> They're 32 bit ARMv7 are they not? Personally I'd be starting with > >> Fedora 24 as you'll have support until July 2017, instead of the 3 or > >> so months left for for F-22. Also for an aarch64 device F-23+ is highly > recommended. > >> > >> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > >> > > >> > > >> > Original message > >> > From: Alex Perez > >> > Date: 4/2/2016 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00) > >> > To: Adam Holt > >> > Cc: server-devel , > >> > xsce-de...@googlegroups.com > >> > Subject: [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable > >> > for OLPC fieldwork? > >> > > >> > > >> > On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > >> > > >> > Will the $15 http://pine64.com (which just raised $1.7M) become > >> > genuinely productizable for truly hassle-free field use with 128GB > >> > MicroSD cards by late 2016? On the bright side, it accommodates > >> > 128GB maximum, which is exactly what we need on the high end in > 2016. > >> > > >> > > >> > Looping back on this... > >> > > >> > My PINE64 arrived in the mail today. Mine is the 2GB RAM variant, > >> > with gigabit ethernet, but no bluetooth or Wi-Fi (which is an > >> > add-in > >> > module) > >> > > >> > I actually have a couple of 200GB microSD cards that I just > >> > acquired, and I’ll be putting it through its paces. The SanDisk > >> > SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A retails for $249, but the actual street prices > >> > are > >> > $80 (on Amazon) > >> > > >> > I suspect it will work fine in the PINE64. Does anyone here have > >> > any recommendations for putting XSCE through its paces, or > >> > otherwise stress-testing the install, besides normal benchmarking > >> > of static HTTP page load performance. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Alex Perez > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Server-devel mailing list > >> > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > >> > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork?
Not sure how they do that. If it's done with something like ansible it would be very easy to migrate to new releases. Peter On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > Jerry and George spent a lot of time migrating legacy XS code from F18 to > F22. There is more work to get to F24. I agree that we want to get there. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Peter Robinson [mailto:pbrobin...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 6:42 AM >> To: Tim Moody >> Cc: xsce-de...@googlegroups.com; Adam Holt ; server- >> devel >> Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most >> ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork? >> >> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Tim Moody wrote: >> > For xsce I'd start with f22. You can look at the rpi images on >> > xsce.org/downloads >> >> They're 32 bit ARMv7 are they not? Personally I'd be starting with Fedora 24 >> as you'll have support until July 2017, instead of the 3 or so months left >> for for >> F-22. Also for an aarch64 device F-23+ is highly recommended. >> >> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >> > >> > >> > Original message >> > From: Alex Perez >> > Date: 4/2/2016 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00) >> > To: Adam Holt >> > Cc: server-devel , >> > xsce-de...@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable >> > for OLPC fieldwork? >> > >> > >> > On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Adam Holt wrote: >> > >> > Will the $15 http://pine64.com (which just raised $1.7M) become >> > genuinely productizable for truly hassle-free field use with 128GB >> > MicroSD cards by late 2016? On the bright side, it accommodates 128GB >> > maximum, which is exactly what we need on the high end in 2016. >> > >> > >> > Looping back on this... >> > >> > My PINE64 arrived in the mail today. Mine is the 2GB RAM variant, with >> > gigabit ethernet, but no bluetooth or Wi-Fi (which is an add-in >> > module) >> > >> > I actually have a couple of 200GB microSD cards that I just acquired, >> > and I’ll be putting it through its paces. The SanDisk >> > SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A retails for $249, but the actual street prices are >> > $80 (on Amazon) >> > >> > I suspect it will work fine in the PINE64. Does anyone here have any >> > recommendations for putting XSCE through its paces, or otherwise >> > stress-testing the install, besides normal benchmarking of static HTTP >> > page load performance. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Alex Perez >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Server-devel mailing list >> > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel >> > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork?
Jerry and George spent a lot of time migrating legacy XS code from F18 to F22. There is more work to get to F24. I agree that we want to get there. > -Original Message- > From: Peter Robinson [mailto:pbrobin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 6:42 AM > To: Tim Moody > Cc: xsce-de...@googlegroups.com; Adam Holt ; server- > devel > Subject: Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most > ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork? > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > > For xsce I'd start with f22. You can look at the rpi images on > > xsce.org/downloads > > They're 32 bit ARMv7 are they not? Personally I'd be starting with Fedora 24 > as you'll have support until July 2017, instead of the 3 or so months left > for for > F-22. Also for an aarch64 device F-23+ is highly recommended. > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > > > > Original message > > From: Alex Perez > > Date: 4/2/2016 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00) > > To: Adam Holt > > Cc: server-devel , > > xsce-de...@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable > > for OLPC fieldwork? > > > > > > On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > > > > Will the $15 http://pine64.com (which just raised $1.7M) become > > genuinely productizable for truly hassle-free field use with 128GB > > MicroSD cards by late 2016? On the bright side, it accommodates 128GB > > maximum, which is exactly what we need on the high end in 2016. > > > > > > Looping back on this... > > > > My PINE64 arrived in the mail today. Mine is the 2GB RAM variant, with > > gigabit ethernet, but no bluetooth or Wi-Fi (which is an add-in > > module) > > > > I actually have a couple of 200GB microSD cards that I just acquired, > > and I’ll be putting it through its paces. The SanDisk > > SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A retails for $249, but the actual street prices are > > $80 (on Amazon) > > > > I suspect it will work fine in the PINE64. Does anyone here have any > > recommendations for putting XSCE through its paces, or otherwise > > stress-testing the install, besides normal benchmarking of static HTTP > > page load performance. > > > > Regards, > > Alex Perez > > > > > > ___ > > Server-devel mailing list > > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > > Awesome we can start banging on this long-awaited HW!. > > > > Who can recommend the best/emerging/viable Fedora 22 vs. 23 vs. 24 > options > > to Alex? > > Fedora 24 definitely here, I'll actually be producing aarch64 images > shortly for this which will include a level of support for the PINE64, > we don't get have USB or ethernet sadly, but I hope to have at least > usb soon. > Tremendous news! Obviously F24's beta is only a few weeks away, best of luck on both fronts~ > I would note that, at least for the pre prod model I have, this device > is by no means "ruggedized" the board even has a bend in it from > postage. > Proof positive it's ruggedized if the computer was bent in half and still works ;) Peter > > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Alex Perez wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > >> > >> Will the $15 http://pine64.com (which just raised $1.7M) become > genuinely > >> productizable for truly hassle-free field use with 128GB MicroSD cards > by > >> late 2016? On the bright side, it accommodates 128GB maximum, which is > >> exactly what we need on the high end in 2016. > >> > >> > >> Looping back on this... > >> > >> My PINE64 arrived in the mail today. Mine is the 2GB RAM variant, with > >> gigabit ethernet, but no bluetooth or Wi-Fi (which is an add-in module) > >> > >> I actually have a couple of 200GB microSD cards that I just acquired, > and > >> I’ll be putting it through its paces. The SanDisk SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A > retails > >> for $249, but the actual street prices are $80 (on Amazon) > >> > >> I suspect it will work fine in the PINE64. Does anyone here have any > >> recommendations for putting XSCE through its paces, or otherwise > >> stress-testing the install, besides normal benchmarking of static HTTP > page > >> load performance. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Alex Perez > >> > >> -- > >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > > > > > > ___ > > Server-devel mailing list > > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > > > -- > Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork?
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Tim Moody wrote: > For xsce I'd start with f22. You can look at the rpi images on > xsce.org/downloads They're 32 bit ARMv7 are they not? Personally I'd be starting with Fedora 24 as you'll have support until July 2017, instead of the 3 or so months left for for F-22. Also for an aarch64 device F-23+ is highly recommended. > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > Original message > From: Alex Perez > Date: 4/2/2016 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Adam Holt > Cc: server-devel , > xsce-de...@googlegroups.com > Subject: [XSCE] Re: [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC > fieldwork? > > > On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > > Will the $15 http://pine64.com (which just raised $1.7M) become genuinely > productizable for truly hassle-free field use with 128GB MicroSD cards by > late 2016? On the bright side, it accommodates 128GB maximum, which is > exactly what we need on the high end in 2016. > > > Looping back on this... > > My PINE64 arrived in the mail today. Mine is the 2GB RAM variant, with > gigabit ethernet, but no bluetooth or Wi-Fi (which is an add-in module) > > I actually have a couple of 200GB microSD cards that I just acquired, and > I’ll be putting it through its paces. The SanDisk SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A retails > for $249, but the actual street prices are $80 (on Amazon) > > I suspect it will work fine in the PINE64. Does anyone here have any > recommendations for putting XSCE through its paces, or otherwise > stress-testing the install, besides normal benchmarking of static HTTP page > load performance. > > Regards, > Alex Perez > > > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Raspberri Pi/clone(s) most ruggedizable for OLPC fieldwork?
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > Awesome we can start banging on this long-awaited HW!. > > Who can recommend the best/emerging/viable Fedora 22 vs. 23 vs. 24 options > to Alex? Fedora 24 definitely here, I'll actually be producing aarch64 images shortly for this which will include a level of support for the PINE64, we don't get have USB or ethernet sadly, but I hope to have at least usb soon. I would note that, at least for the pre prod model I have, this device is by no means "ruggedized" the board even has a bend in it from postage. Peter > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Alex Perez wrote: >> >> >> On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Adam Holt wrote: >> >> Will the $15 http://pine64.com (which just raised $1.7M) become genuinely >> productizable for truly hassle-free field use with 128GB MicroSD cards by >> late 2016? On the bright side, it accommodates 128GB maximum, which is >> exactly what we need on the high end in 2016. >> >> >> Looping back on this... >> >> My PINE64 arrived in the mail today. Mine is the 2GB RAM variant, with >> gigabit ethernet, but no bluetooth or Wi-Fi (which is an add-in module) >> >> I actually have a couple of 200GB microSD cards that I just acquired, and >> I’ll be putting it through its paces. The SanDisk SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A retails >> for $249, but the actual street prices are $80 (on Amazon) >> >> I suspect it will work fine in the PINE64. Does anyone here have any >> recommendations for putting XSCE through its paces, or otherwise >> stress-testing the install, besides normal benchmarking of static HTTP page >> load performance. >> >> Regards, >> Alex Perez >> >> -- >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > > > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
