Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On 17 April 2012 23:39, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Thanks for your notes. > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan > wrote: > But you have some economies of scale :-) do once per school vs do it > on every machine in the school. > > The school XS can be shipped preconfigured, sidestepping the "local > configuration" barrier. > > Thanks for those answers, they clarify a few things for me. I'm with > you on the "show an XS icon in the network neighbourhood" part, but I > don't see the "configure XMPP server on _every_ XO" as a good > tradeoff, if I can prep an XS once (maybe in a central location). > > It's relatively easy to prep an XS + switch + APs + cat 5 cabling, > label all the RJ-45 connectors, and ship it all in a big box. The > hardest part is guessing the cat 5 lengths right ;-) -- much better to > ship a crimping tool, cable, RJ-45s. Our deployment methodology appears to be different from the others I've seen in other countries. We are trying to scale *down*, not up. I have a rule here that no technology is introduced unless it can be deployed and managed by a non-technical person with minimal training. Shipping pre-configured servers and other infrastructure builds a dependency that will cause problems later down the track, and creates a burden on us. We generally do not have any support and only begrudging permission from education departments. We are working around this by building/configuring the technology so that the teachers and communities can totally own the deployment for themselves. Unfortunately the XS in its current state does not allow for this. Sridhar ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
Thanks for your notes. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > Ideally, I think we'd want to have the servers be auto-detected on the > network and available to select by the XO. Ideas to implement this > include making them show in the Neighbourhood View and a selector in > the Network CP applet. Significant programming investment there... >>> Then the children just set a collaboration server to connect to in the >>> Network CP applet. They use the address of the appliance for their >>> classroom. This achieves a segregation effect in a simple way. >> >> How do kids know what domain name to put in there? Isn't it a complex >> and error-prone step? > > Typing an IP address into the client is far less complicated than > setting up and maintaining an XS server. But you have some economies of scale :-) do once per school vs do it on every machine in the school. The school XS can be shipped preconfigured, sidestepping the "local configuration" barrier. Thanks for those answers, they clarify a few things for me. I'm with you on the "show an XS icon in the network neighbourhood" part, but I don't see the "configure XMPP server on _every_ XO" as a good tradeoff, if I can prep an XS once (maybe in a central location). It's relatively easy to prep an XS + switch + APs + cat 5 cabling, label all the RJ-45 connectors, and ship it all in a big box. The hardest part is guessing the cat 5 lengths right ;-) -- much better to ship a crimping tool, cable, RJ-45s. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On 14 April 2012 01:37, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan > wrote: >> appliance runs nothing more than ejabberd. There's no moodle, dhcp, >> dns or other services. > > How does the appliance get a domain name? IP addresses will suffice to begin with. Ideally, I think we'd want to have the servers be auto-detected on the network and available to select by the XO. Ideas to implement this include making them show in the Neighbourhood View and a selector in the Network CP applet. >> Then the children just set a collaboration server to connect to in the >> Network CP applet. They use the address of the appliance for their >> classroom. This achieves a segregation effect in a simple way. > > How do kids know what domain name to put in there? Isn't it a complex > and error-prone step? Typing an IP address into the client is far less complicated than setting up and maintaining an XS server. Sridhar ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
I am just about to go to Oksapmin in the remotest highlands of PNG, where there will never be road access, as nature surrounds it with her finest such as the Strickland Gorge. The only access is a 5 day trek or a single engine plane (landing on a one-way strip sloping with 9000 mountain on one end). People only have access to newspapers several days late, there is no free to air TV, no power, and of course school libraries are non-existent partly because they can never be sustainably stocked with having to be flown in. In a nutshell, a very information poor area. Thus the school servers are seen as a highlight of the programme. Even before the XOs are being used in class in a properly focused way, the teachers themselves, who are also almost complete beginners with computers, point out the early gains in terms of early-age students learning information literacy skills by searching through the resources on the server. This is a selling point (badly needed as there is such weak support from the education authorities and their donor partners) that is obvious to everyone, i.e. the highly efficient means of enriching the educational with resources. I agree with Sridhar that with the skill sets available in these remote schools, it is simply not an option to train them and support them in Moodle administration and so on, but there are some basic functions that the teachers can use and are very useful, such as the upload facility. I was just training some teachers to prepare worksheets for students (mostly using Write but also Joke Machine and other formats) and upload them to a folder where the students can access it in class. This is so simple and obviously useful, saving time, engaging the students, and allowing teachers to work more on one to one basis, that it makes a great introduction to lesson planning. Not to mention the productivity gains saving time writing and copying from the blackboard, as they have no way to provide paper worksheets regularly. We are also now training teachers to access the OLPC-AU training resources offline, via the server. The excellent XO-Cert Manual can be browsed with all the instructional videos and examples of lesson plans, etc, from a teacher's XO. The mobile network there is only just workable for Internet at 2kbps and the teachers can't afford to view videos online even if possible. So the server makes it possible to provide a self learning resources - which w support with an initial workshop. At a later date w hope some of the teachers can do the guided online XO-Cert and XO-Expert courses, and we will localise them for PNG. Thanks Sridhar, Tracy and team!!! [Note - to do this, we had to figured out how to install offline all the codecs needed for Jukebox to play FLV, etc] So the XS is really a highlight for us. We do use Moodle but only to provide links to the 40GB or so of mainly OERs, which are mainly accessed in html (Schools Wikipedia, UNESCO ASEAN SchoolNet resources, regional organisation resources, Khan Academy videos, PNG teacher curriculum documentation, diverse local stuff, e-books collections). Those are just links to /library folders using aliases, added as resources on the Moodle home page. We then add a couple of folders and set up the system so teacher's XOs can upload and "edit files" and students just browse and download, plus another for students to upload. We don't bother anymore with class segregation because even with a maximum of 250 XOs potentially connecting to the server, the server use is still not very intensive. We just set up the systems, which run on solar power, and give some basic trouble shooting training mainly on rebooting the server and checking the access points are on. The small e-boxes that we use (15W, 1-2GB RAM, with BIOS set to auto power up in case of power outage), seem to be very robust as well as the XS itself. In one school we returned after 18 months to find it all working with the server having run almost continuously 24/7 throughout that time with no problems. The maintenance strategy would be - make it as reliable and simple as possible. If it doesn't work, return it to someone who can fix it, and sorry the "school library" will be closed for a couple of weeks. The only other feature we use is to enable the news and announcements so teachers can discuss things with each other and announce to students. It still needs someone to add new roles for XOs when the teachers are transferred and so on, but it is a great initial compromise. David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link P.O.Box 652 Honiara, Solomon Islands +677 7476396 (m) +677 24419 (h) www.rurallink.com.sb -Original Message- From: server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012 1:58 p.m. To: Martin Langhoff Cc: George Hunt; XS Devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardw
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > appliance runs nothing more than ejabberd. There's no moodle, dhcp, > dns or other services. How does the appliance get a domain name? > Then the children just set a collaboration server to connect to in the > Network CP applet. They use the address of the appliance for their > classroom. This achieves a segregation effect in a simple way. How do kids know what domain name to put in there? Isn't it a complex and error-prone step? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On 12 April 2012 15:27, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan > wrote: >> Why is it such a bad idea? >> >> The thought was to do away with registration, moodle and other >> unnecessary services and focus only on the XMPP server. > > You want to run a network of federated XMPP servers? It's madness. > > Rather, it's not madness, but until demonstrated/automated otherwise > it's a high-maintenance-per-classroom setup. And the federated XMPP > stuff isn't widely used ==> widely tested. > > We get obvious and clear bugs in parts of the XMPP implementation that > are used (or should be used) _everywhere_. And this is on what is > reportedly the best XMPP implementation available. My appetite for > putting an exotic feature into use in the _middle_ of a deployment > plan is... just not there. > > In any case, what's the upside of one-XS-per-classroom? Cost, > administration, reliance on federated-XMPP all seem downsides/risks to > me. Not federated - far simpler than that. The current XS requires administration - sysadmin admin to set up and moodle admin to manage registrations and set up segregation. This is not workable in our school environments, and hence we have stopped using XS schoolservers. The scenario that I'm thinking of is that each teacher (who has no technical skill whatsoever) receives an XS plug-and-play appliance, consisting of an XO with XS software installed. All the teacher has to do is to turn on the machine and connect it to the network. The appliance runs nothing more than ejabberd. There's no moodle, dhcp, dns or other services. Then the children just set a collaboration server to connect to in the Network CP applet. They use the address of the appliance for their classroom. This achieves a segregation effect in a simple way. I think this could be created with relatively little effort, as all we are doing is scaling back an XS. There is no additional configuration required such as federation. We have ideas to extend this scenario. For instance, the appliances could advertise themselves on the network, and then the children need only click on the server they want to be on. The teacher could plug a USB drive with content into the appliance, and have the children download exercises and upload homework. As I mentioned, this is just an idea right now. Sridhar ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
The OpenRD has an internal sata HDD bay ad has 2 ethernet ports. The one I have has been on continuously for a few years with no problems. The TonidoPlug2 has an internal sata HDD bay and 1 ethernet port and 1 wireless. I have not used a TonidoPlug2 but am tempted to purchase one because of the price point. It uses a Marvell Armada 310 SOC. On Apr 12, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> think the Trimslice H is going to one of the best models as you can >> put a decent HDD in there and have a self contained unit, although I >> would love a dual eth option. > > It has a HDD bay! Yay! Wanna! > > > > m > -- > martin.langh...@gmail.com > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > think the Trimslice H is going to one of the best models as you can > put a decent HDD in there and have a self contained unit, although I > would love a dual eth option. It has a HDD bay! Yay! Wanna! m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:58 PM, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, George Hunt wrote: >>> I left my fitpc2 and msi servers in the Philippines, hoping they would be >>> pressed into service in a classroom situation. So now I'm in the market for >>> another toy. >> >> If you have time towork with us through some hitches, I'd recommend an >> ARM server. At this stage I'd say one of the Marvell/Globalscale >> "Plug" servers (dreamplug for example), or a trimslice. >> >> Either option will need a combination of the OS on internal SD/eMMC >> and the storage on an ext HDD (via USB probably). > > The Kirkwood based systems such plug computers can boot both the kernel and > OS from a hard > drive. I have been talking with one of he Fedora ARM team about this and am > going > to send them an email about what is involved and some other things about the > kirkwood based devices. I'm one of the Fedora ARM people so feel free to ask here, there's a lot of work going on to simplify the process of creating images, there should be some more stuff coming soon for creation of images. I would suggest looking at ARMv7 devices as they tend to have more CPU power and memory which would be better for the server stuff. Personally I think the Trimslice H is going to one of the best models as you can put a decent HDD in there and have a self contained unit, although I would love a dual eth option. Peter [1] http://trimslice.com/web/models ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > Why is it such a bad idea? > > The thought was to do away with registration, moodle and other > unnecessary services and focus only on the XMPP server. You want to run a network of federated XMPP servers? It's madness. Rather, it's not madness, but until demonstrated/automated otherwise it's a high-maintenance-per-classroom setup. And the federated XMPP stuff isn't widely used ==> widely tested. We get obvious and clear bugs in parts of the XMPP implementation that are used (or should be used) _everywhere_. And this is on what is reportedly the best XMPP implementation available. My appetite for putting an exotic feature into use in the _middle_ of a deployment plan is... just not there. In any case, what's the upside of one-XS-per-classroom? Cost, administration, reliance on federated-XMPP all seem downsides/risks to me. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On 11 April 2012 22:59, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:29 AM, George Hunt wrote: >> I think it was Sameer who was telling me that in Australia, they are >> thinking about one XS per classroom. In that setting, seems to me that >> XO1.75 (even with only 512MB memory) would be more than adequate. It's just an idea for us. We haven't actioned anything. > One XS per classroom is a _bad_ idea for other reasons. One AP per > classroom is a good idea, OTOH, and an XO-1.75 can probably handle a > mid-sized school OK. Why is it such a bad idea? The thought was to do away with registration, moodle and other unnecessary services and focus only on the XMPP server. Cheers, Sridhar ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, George Hunt wrote: >> I left my fitpc2 and msi servers in the Philippines, hoping they would be >> pressed into service in a classroom situation. So now I'm in the market for >> another toy. > > If you have time towork with us through some hitches, I'd recommend an > ARM server. At this stage I'd say one of the Marvell/Globalscale > "Plug" servers (dreamplug for example), or a trimslice. > > Either option will need a combination of the OS on internal SD/eMMC > and the storage on an ext HDD (via USB probably). The Kirkwood based systems such plug computers can boot both the kernel and OS from a hard drive. I have been talking with one of he Fedora ARM team about this and am going to send them an email about what is involved and some other things about the kirkwood based devices. > cheers, > > > m > -- > martin.langh...@gmail.com > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:29 AM, George Hunt wrote: > When I took the picture in the following url, I was focusing on what it > would take to run off of 12V deep cycle battery: > > http://schoolserver.wordpress.com/xs-installation/xs-0-7-running-on-xo-1-5/ That's very cool! > I'm concerned with packaging, and physical robustness in a real school > setting. Maybe we could get someone with ME skills to dream up a cheap > package for all the accessory items. I can't speak much about ME, but I can suggest looking at some TP-LINK and "Sapido" branded small APs that take USB power. You can have a USB-powered HDD as well, and you still have a free USB port on the XO. > At the fall 2011 summit, there was a general call for a turnkey XS that > "just worked". If we could solve the form factor problem, the XO1.75 might > be a good solution. I'm exploring that path with a variant of the Dreamplug, but that won't happen overnight. > I think it was Sameer who was telling me that in Australia, they are > thinking about one XS per classroom. In that setting, seems to me that > XO1.75 (even with only 512MB memory) would be more than adequate. One XS per classroom is a _bad_ idea for other reasons. One AP per classroom is a good idea, OTOH, and an XO-1.75 can probably handle a mid-sized school OK. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM, John Watlington wrote: >> Why not an XO-1.75 ? > > Good point. And XO + AP + HDD would work fantastic. > > George, how many users per server? If <100, an XO-1.75 will do ok. > Want to sign up for the Contributors Programme (search in the wiki for > the URL). > > XO-1.75, Plug or Trimslice will do fine with a recent Fedora for ARM > (from the upcoming F17 series) -- we just need to recompile the XS > specific packages. Most of them will just work. AFAIK, ejabberd and > xs-config will need some work, and I can help you with those. It might be worthwhile seeing what we can get into mainline Fedora for the XS releases so that as the new RHEL releases come along it will just work as well as be usable on ARM platforms. Peter ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM, John Watlington wrote: > Why not an XO-1.75 ? Good point. And XO + AP + HDD would work fantastic. George, how many users per server? If <100, an XO-1.75 will do ok. Want to sign up for the Contributors Programme (search in the wiki for the URL). XO-1.75, Plug or Trimslice will do fine with a recent Fedora for ARM (from the upcoming F17 series) -- we just need to recompile the XS specific packages. Most of them will just work. AFAIK, ejabberd and xs-config will need some work, and I can help you with those. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On 04/11/2012 04:52 PM, James Cameron wrote: > G'day George, > > The trouble with a full mechanical engineering treatment of this is that > there's no telling what size each of the parts will be. > > For something similar I used a kitchen vegetable rack. This is a > plastic shelf, with feet, with a square grid pattern. It is often > used for potatos and onions in food storage here, since these two > vegetables are best stored without light. > > The grid pattern allows equipment to be anchored using cable ties. It > also has good airflow. Equipment can be anchored above and below the > floor of the rack. Cables can be threaded through widened holes. > > You may be able to simplify your design a bit: > > 1. move from a USB HDD to a fast high spec SD card, saves one port, > enough saving to avoid the USB hub and DC/DC inverter, > > 2. locate a USB hub that takes a 12V input, > > 3. decide on only one Ethernet interface. > > A minor thing; I would not have the input USB cable beyond the > baseboard. It may be hit. > We have been using MSI Windbox DE-220 at Nepal and it is performing good at deployment sites. -- Abhishek Singh System Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal साझा शिक्षा ई-पाटी http://www.olenepal.org Tel: +977-1-551 ext. 102 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
G'day George, The trouble with a full mechanical engineering treatment of this is that there's no telling what size each of the parts will be. For something similar I used a kitchen vegetable rack. This is a plastic shelf, with feet, with a square grid pattern. It is often used for potatos and onions in food storage here, since these two vegetables are best stored without light. The grid pattern allows equipment to be anchored using cable ties. It also has good airflow. Equipment can be anchored above and below the floor of the rack. Cables can be threaded through widened holes. You may be able to simplify your design a bit: 1. move from a USB HDD to a fast high spec SD card, saves one port, enough saving to avoid the USB hub and DC/DC inverter, 2. locate a USB hub that takes a 12V input, 3. decide on only one Ethernet interface. A minor thing; I would not have the input USB cable beyond the baseboard. It may be hit. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
When I took the picture in the following url, I was focusing on what it would take to run off of 12V deep cycle battery: http://schoolserver.wordpress.com/xs-installation/xs-0-7-running-on-xo-1-5/ I'm concerned with packaging, and physical robustness in a real school setting. Maybe we could get someone with ME skills to dream up a cheap package for all the accessory items. We probably don't need the DC to DC inverter and the usb hub. But then we don't have an extra port for sneaker-net, or an adult sized usb keyboard. At the fall 2011 summit, there was a general call for a turnkey XS that "just worked". If we could solve the form factor problem, the XO1.75 might be a good solution. I think it was Sameer who was telling me that in Australia, they are thinking about one XS per classroom. In that setting, seems to me that XO1.75 (even with only 512MB memory) would be more than adequate. George On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > Why not an XO-1.75 ? > > On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, George Hunt > wrote: > >> I left my fitpc2 and msi servers in the Philippines, hoping they would > be > >> pressed into service in a classroom situation. So now I'm in the > market for > >> another toy. > > > > If you have time towork with us through some hitches, I'd recommend an > > ARM server. At this stage I'd say one of the Marvell/Globalscale > > "Plug" servers (dreamplug for example), or a trimslice. > > > > Either option will need a combination of the OS on internal SD/eMMC > > and the storage on an ext HDD (via USB probably). > > > > cheers, > > > > > > m > > -- > > martin.langh...@gmail.com > > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > > - ask interesting questions > > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > > ___ > > Server-devel mailing list > > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > > > > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
Why not an XO-1.75 ? On Apr 10, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, George Hunt wrote: >> I left my fitpc2 and msi servers in the Philippines, hoping they would be >> pressed into service in a classroom situation. So now I'm in the market for >> another toy. > > If you have time towork with us through some hitches, I'd recommend an > ARM server. At this stage I'd say one of the Marvell/Globalscale > "Plug" servers (dreamplug for example), or a trimslice. > > Either option will need a combination of the OS on internal SD/eMMC > and the storage on an ext HDD (via USB probably). > > cheers, > > > m > -- > martin.langh...@gmail.com > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > Server-devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
I'd love to be involved in getting an arm server going. I have a dreamplug. Which distro are you thinking would be a good base? What sort of hitches? If there's discussion in the archives, I'll do reading to get up to speed. I might help if I knew when or who. George On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, George Hunt wrote: > > I left my fitpc2 and msi servers in the Philippines, hoping they would be > > pressed into service in a classroom situation. So now I'm in the market > for > > another toy. > > If you have time towork with us through some hitches, I'd recommend an > ARM server. At this stage I'd say one of the Marvell/Globalscale > "Plug" servers (dreamplug for example), or a trimslice. > > Either option will need a combination of the OS on internal SD/eMMC > and the storage on an ext HDD (via USB probably). > > cheers, > > > m > -- > martin.langh...@gmail.com > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, George Hunt wrote: > I left my fitpc2 and msi servers in the Philippines, hoping they would be > pressed into service in a classroom situation. So now I'm in the market for > another toy. If you have time towork with us through some hitches, I'd recommend an ARM server. At this stage I'd say one of the Marvell/Globalscale "Plug" servers (dreamplug for example), or a trimslice. Either option will need a combination of the OS on internal SD/eMMC and the storage on an ext HDD (via USB probably). cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
