Re: [Server-devel] The road towards xs-0.3 - update (Martin Langhoff)
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks great overall, thanks! Cool. > Very sorry to hear about your crash. Not sure how to say this > diplomatically so I'll just put it in plain text: I'm really glad you're > still alive! > > BTW In my experience, a serious car crash takes a while to assimilate > psychologically. Give yourself some time. Thanks! I'm very glad to be here - I just had 2 *tiny* cuts in my right temple, for a crash that could have been a lot more serious. > On the school server plan, keep us posted on identity scheme. There was a thread last week on this, and I had a chat w Ivan that I reported back. Here it is: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2008-May/000999.html That shows the thinking that has happened so far. There are acouple of alternatives, but the bottom line for webapp developers looks like this: - For webapps running on the XS - Don't worry about authentication just yet, assume you'll be able to read an env variable from the Apache environment containing a userid. Regardless of _how_ the XO identifies itself to the XS, I'll work to make it "transparent" or at least trivial to the webapp layer, regardless of implementation language / technology. In the meantime, just use whatever you want :-) - For webapps running on 3rd party servers, support openID "client" authentication. > I'm moving > ahead with EduBlog project. One intern (Tarun) is on board and a > probably a few volunteer programmers in Montevideo. Fantastic. > I hope we can send > much more details on the design proposal and get your comment and buy in > soon. Current thinking (Spanish and English below) is at: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Blog_Educativo_Plan_del_Proyecto I'll read it in detail and post back here. Are the programmers around here? I'm happy to have the thread be bilingual, but if you don't say anything I'll keep it in English :-) > More details on EduBlog to follow in June. Hopefully we will have a > short, intense discussion on the preferred web app on XS software design > on this list. For EduBlog it has to be over by mid-June because we need > to complete any programming before the end of July. Ok. So lets get that conversation going :-) > I'll also try to line up people to help build, test or add to what you > think is important on the XS. Not sure about the capacity of volunteers, > but let us know where you think people can chip in and we'll see. Thanks! I will try to put together a list of medium workload/complexity projects that are easier to take on by volunteers. > BTW the teachers in Peru have been running their own internet based > Moodle collaboration environment since 2006! I'm coming around to the > idea that Moodle is central to the whole XS set of capabilities :-) Moodle!? What's that? ;-) cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] The road towards xs-0.3 - update
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am just settling down in my temporary "office" in Buenos Aires. Things have moved forward quite a bit in the meantime, but alas we haven't seen a 0.3 release. There's been some delays and distractions - setting up shop in BA, and then in NZ, plus a nasty but lucky car crash. But things are moving forward apace. Here's a brief summary of our status - Wad has fixed some kernel driver issues, and I've fixed some install bugs. A new build is available (163) but it's not quite yet a formal release. Still, it's the recommended build at the moment. - XO-to-XS backup is at the top of my priorities list - displacing installation/configuration issues a bit, and it is taking a bit longer than expected. The XO side of it is quite new to me, and - in working with the deployment teams - it becomes clear that the high cost of dealing with bugs in released/deployed versions makes it worthwhile being careful when working on infrastructural stuff. The XS software has few testers, so "release early, release often" won't be enough to uncover issues -- attention to detail is important. - Working on issues with the XS build/installation process itself is extremely time-consuming. - I want to define an ID mgmt scheme to identify users to webapps on the XO asap. This is the one main issue stalling webapp development/customisation for the XS. In spite of the delays - the roadmap still stands. My plan now is to get backup sorted in the next couple of days. After that I'll be travelling a bit to speak about OLPC and to work with a couple of deployment teams. And then I'll get a few weeks at 1CC, which will be a great opportunity to work on networking issues and authentication, both things that interop with other parts of the stack. Things are more organic & complex that I initially expected - but more fun too. Stay tuned... cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] The road towards xs-0.3
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Martin Langhoff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Martin Langhoff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So with all these tours, my planned xs-0.3 is a bit delayed. Being in > > NZ, and with a proper private office, it won't take long. > > Any news about the backup functionality and its integration with the > journal? Do you already have some info about the requirements? Sorry, forget about this. The thread started by Michael is much more appropriate. Tomeu ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] The road towards xs-0.3
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am just settling down in my temporary "office" in Buenos Aires. And right now I am back in my actual office in Wellington, NZ. ;-) Work in BA was interrupted by a visit to Montevideo and Lima to meet the local teams looking after deployments. Working with them I have learned a lot more about the details of "daily life" of a large scale deployment, specially with the Uruguay team. Nothing of what I learned there was completely unexpected though. I has shaped my plans with a lot more detail, and confirmed that the core /hard/ problems are roughly where I had mapped them. It is just a matter of addressing them. So with all these tours, my planned xs-0.3 is a bit delayed. Being in NZ, and with a proper private office, it won't take long. There was actually a lot more yak-shaving required for me to be able to generate proper bootlable/installable builds from my laptop setup than I had expected. Most of the remaining time in BA was consumed on that, unfortunately :-/ > *Now* is the time to file those unfiled bugs, vote for the unvoted > bugs; show your love for XS and show your patch ;-) The call above is still relevant. Any takers? cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
