Re: Building James 3.3.0 in Eclipse

2019-09-04 Thread Jerry Malcolm

Any help on this would be appreciated.  I'm dead in the water now on this.

Thx.

Jerry

On 9/2/2019 10:40 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:

Raphael,

Thanks for the guidance.  I'm closer now.  But still not there. After 
a full day of trial and error on this, I settled on the following steps:


1) On a clean eclipse workspace, File-->Import-->Git --- I selected 
"clone URI" and entered the James GIT clone URI: 
https://github.com/apache/james-project.git


2) I selected the 3.3.x branch (I guess that's what I want... (??) ) 
and said to also clone submodules.  It downloaded to a folder. It 
created an eclipse project/package named james-server. But the project 
only had 3 files: model.di, model.notation, and model.uml.


3) On a whim, I decided to import again using "Maven existing project" 
and pointed to the extracted folder.  That seemed to work for the most 
part.


It initially gave me 10 errors saying "Plugin execution not covered by 
lifecycle configuration" and 16 more errors with "Project 
configuration not up to date with pom.xml".  All with varying pom.xml 
files.  I did a "quick fix" and it got rid of the 'not up to date' 
errors.  I googled the lifecycle error and it said to edit all of the 
pom.xml files and add  tags around the plugin tags.  
I tried in on a couple of the pom.xml files, and it did fix the errors 
(???).


I then did a build, and it added one more error, something about an 
invalid mojo tag in a pom descriptor.


Just for fun, I did a clean build, and that was a huge mistake. I now 
have 340 errors where it can't resolve DTOs in FlagsTest, 
EventSerializer in EventDispatcher, etc.  Apparently 'clean' wipes out 
source files as well.  Or it wipes out class files that are not part 
of the full build.


So that's where I am.  I can edit a bunch of pom.xml files and add 
tags.  I can hopefully figure out how to fix mojo.  And I can hope to 
remember to NEVER do a clean build again.  But this just doesn't seem 
right that I have to go in and modify a bunch of source files just to 
get a clean build from a ship-level source package.  I have zero 
confidence if I have to make all of these change that I really have an 
'official' 3.3.x James.


Suggestions?  Where did I stray from the correct path?  I'm beginning 
to feel like I belong in the class with the slow kids


On 9/2/2019 6:04 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:


On 9/2/2019 2:55 AM, Raphael OUAZANA wrote:

Hi Jerry,

Don't worry, Eclipse is still supported as a development environment 
and currently used by some developers (even if we have some issues 
in incoming 3.4 regarding compatibility between Eclipse and some 
Scala code).


The usual workflow to work in a dev environment is the following:
- clone the git repository
- checkout the branch / tag you want to work on
- import the project in Eclipse

This workflow should work perfectly well.

The issue you are encountering is because as you are taking the 
sources directly from the released version, you don't have any .git 
repository as you would have if you had cloned the project. This is 
not a big harm, but it seems to make failing the git-commit-id-plugin.
So if you remove this plugin from the main pom.xml, I guess your 
problem would be solved.


Regards,
Raphaël.

Le 2019-09-01 06:16, Jerry Malcolm a écrit :

Thanks for the info, Garry.  But I'm still confused.  Are you saying
that it is no longer possible to build from the source on Eclipse?  I
realize the team may be pushing docker.  But there are still
non-docker binaries that got built someway.  I just want to recreate
those binaries with my code additions.  But first I want to just build
with the official source untouched and verify that works. Then I'll
add my changes and rebuild.

You said the .git files are from the .git repository.  I don't doubt
that.  But I'm not a git guru.  I'm still not sure how to fix the
errors I'm getting (~400+ of these):

org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoExecutionException: .git directory is not
found! Please specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml

I do not know anything about pom syntax.  I have no clue how/where to
"specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml" (times 400)
Does this error mean that there isn't a gitDirectory defined in the
pom.xml and there should be? Or does it mean that one is defined
somewhere and the specified directory doesn't exist on my file
system?  I guess it'd be too much to ask for this error message to
include the directory it found and which of the 400 pom.xml files the
error refers to. (Sorry... I'm just frustrated at less-than-useful
error messages).

Did I download an invalid source zip?  Is there a different zip (or
additional zips that contain the correct pom files? ) I simply went to
github and downloaded the latest source zip file.

Where do I start?  I really don't want to have to learn how to build
on Linux unless there's an official word that says Eclipse is no
longer supported as a build platform.  I need to use Eclipse to debug
my 

Re: Building James 3.3.0 in Eclipse

2019-09-02 Thread Jerry Malcolm

Raphael,

Thanks for the guidance.  I'm closer now.  But still not there. After a 
full day of trial and error on this, I settled on the following steps:


1) On a clean eclipse workspace, File-->Import-->Git --- I selected 
"clone URI" and entered the James GIT clone URI: 
https://github.com/apache/james-project.git


2) I selected the 3.3.x branch (I guess that's what I want... (??) ) and 
said to also clone submodules.  It downloaded to a folder.  It created 
an eclipse project/package named james-server. But the project only had 
3 files: model.di, model.notation, and model.uml.


3) On a whim, I decided to import again using "Maven existing project" 
and pointed to the extracted folder.  That seemed to work for the most part.


It initially gave me 10 errors saying "Plugin execution not covered by 
lifecycle configuration" and 16 more errors with "Project configuration 
not up to date with pom.xml".  All with varying pom.xml files.  I did a 
"quick fix" and it got rid of the 'not up to date' errors.  I googled 
the lifecycle error and it said to edit all of the pom.xml files and add 
 tags around the plugin tags.  I tried in on a couple 
of the pom.xml files, and it did fix the errors (???).


I then did a build, and it added one more error, something about an 
invalid mojo tag in a pom descriptor.


Just for fun, I did a clean build, and that was a huge mistake. I now 
have 340 errors where it can't resolve DTOs in FlagsTest, 
EventSerializer in EventDispatcher, etc.  Apparently 'clean' wipes out 
source files as well.  Or it wipes out class files that are not part of 
the full build.


So that's where I am.  I can edit a bunch of pom.xml files and add 
tags.  I can hopefully figure out how to fix mojo.  And I can hope to 
remember to NEVER do a clean build again.  But this just doesn't seem 
right that I have to go in and modify a bunch of source files just to 
get a clean build from a ship-level source package.  I have zero 
confidence if I have to make all of these change that I really have an 
'official' 3.3.x James.


Suggestions?  Where did I stray from the correct path?  I'm beginning to 
feel like I belong in the class with the slow kids


On 9/2/2019 6:04 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:


On 9/2/2019 2:55 AM, Raphael OUAZANA wrote:

Hi Jerry,

Don't worry, Eclipse is still supported as a development environment 
and currently used by some developers (even if we have some issues in 
incoming 3.4 regarding compatibility between Eclipse and some Scala 
code).


The usual workflow to work in a dev environment is the following:
- clone the git repository
- checkout the branch / tag you want to work on
- import the project in Eclipse

This workflow should work perfectly well.

The issue you are encountering is because as you are taking the 
sources directly from the released version, you don't have any .git 
repository as you would have if you had cloned the project. This is 
not a big harm, but it seems to make failing the git-commit-id-plugin.
So if you remove this plugin from the main pom.xml, I guess your 
problem would be solved.


Regards,
Raphaël.

Le 2019-09-01 06:16, Jerry Malcolm a écrit :

Thanks for the info, Garry.  But I'm still confused.  Are you saying
that it is no longer possible to build from the source on Eclipse?  I
realize the team may be pushing docker.  But there are still
non-docker binaries that got built someway.  I just want to recreate
those binaries with my code additions.  But first I want to just build
with the official source untouched and verify that works. Then I'll
add my changes and rebuild.

You said the .git files are from the .git repository.  I don't doubt
that.  But I'm not a git guru.  I'm still not sure how to fix the
errors I'm getting (~400+ of these):

org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoExecutionException: .git directory is not
found! Please specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml

I do not know anything about pom syntax.  I have no clue how/where to
"specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml" (times 400)
Does this error mean that there isn't a gitDirectory defined in the
pom.xml and there should be? Or does it mean that one is defined
somewhere and the specified directory doesn't exist on my file
system?  I guess it'd be too much to ask for this error message to
include the directory it found and which of the 400 pom.xml files the
error refers to. (Sorry... I'm just frustrated at less-than-useful
error messages).

Did I download an invalid source zip?  Is there a different zip (or
additional zips that contain the correct pom files? ) I simply went to
github and downloaded the latest source zip file.

Where do I start?  I really don't want to have to learn how to build
on Linux unless there's an official word that says Eclipse is no
longer supported as a build platform.  I need to use Eclipse to debug
my code.  I just want to download the correct source, import it into
Eclipse, and build it.  I just can't understand why I can't get

Re: Building James 3.3.0 in Eclipse

2019-09-02 Thread Jerry Malcolm



On 9/2/2019 2:55 AM, Raphael OUAZANA wrote:

Hi Jerry,

Don't worry, Eclipse is still supported as a development environment 
and currently used by some developers (even if we have some issues in 
incoming 3.4 regarding compatibility between Eclipse and some Scala 
code).


The usual workflow to work in a dev environment is the following:
- clone the git repository
- checkout the branch / tag you want to work on
- import the project in Eclipse

This workflow should work perfectly well.

The issue you are encountering is because as you are taking the 
sources directly from the released version, you don't have any .git 
repository as you would have if you had cloned the project. This is 
not a big harm, but it seems to make failing the git-commit-id-plugin.
So if you remove this plugin from the main pom.xml, I guess your 
problem would be solved.


Regards,
Raphaël.

Le 2019-09-01 06:16, Jerry Malcolm a écrit :

Thanks for the info, Garry.  But I'm still confused.  Are you saying
that it is no longer possible to build from the source on Eclipse?  I
realize the team may be pushing docker.  But there are still
non-docker binaries that got built someway.  I just want to recreate
those binaries with my code additions.  But first I want to just build
with the official source untouched and verify that works.  Then I'll
add my changes and rebuild.

You said the .git files are from the .git repository.  I don't doubt
that.  But I'm not a git guru.  I'm still not sure how to fix the
errors I'm getting (~400+ of these):

org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoExecutionException: .git directory is not
found! Please specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml

I do not know anything about pom syntax.  I have no clue how/where to
"specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml" (times 400)
Does this error mean that there isn't a gitDirectory defined in the
pom.xml and there should be? Or does it mean that one is defined
somewhere and the specified directory doesn't exist on my file
system?  I guess it'd be too much to ask for this error message to
include the directory it found and which of the 400 pom.xml files the
error refers to. (Sorry... I'm just frustrated at less-than-useful
error messages).

Did I download an invalid source zip?  Is there a different zip (or
additional zips that contain the correct pom files? ) I simply went to
github and downloaded the latest source zip file.

Where do I start?  I really don't want to have to learn how to build
on Linux unless there's an official word that says Eclipse is no
longer supported as a build platform.  I need to use Eclipse to debug
my code.  I just want to download the correct source, import it into
Eclipse, and build it.  I just can't understand why I can't get
anywhere near a successful build.  What am I doing wrong?

Jerry

On 8/31/2019 5:25 PM, Garry Hurley wrote:
Jerry, I had to download the source, run configure and make on a 
Linux system. The problem is that the source is made to build onto a 
docker system on Windows. Those of us who choose not to run docker 
and run a real operating system often have issues. Those .git files 
are from the .git repository. If you did a git clone, create your 
workspace from the local git repo or import existing maven projects 
into eclipse from the repo. This serves two purposes. 1, it allows 
you to keep your project up to date and 2, it allows you to commit 
if you have any changes to the existing code you want to push up for 
others.


I haven’t built anything after 3.3.0 was finalizedbecause the 
government finally approved 3.3.0 for use (ironically, they had been 
insisting that 3.0.4beta was safe to use in production and I 
outright refused to put that in place).


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Jerry Malcolm  
wrote:


Something else I just found... the link to a tutorial at 
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apache-james-v3-with-eclipse 
in the Eclipse build section is dead.  No DNS entry.




On 8/31/2019 4:54 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
Correction... the build instructions page link should be: 
https://james.apache.org/server/3/dev-build.html




On 8/31/2019 4:52 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
I'm trying to build the latest stable James 3.3.0 in Eclipse.

-- The link to the 3.3.0 source zip on the downloads page is dead 
(https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/james/server/3.3.0/james-server-sources-3.3.0.zip)


-- I figured out the correct link: 
http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip 
and downloaded the zip.  But the zip contains ONLY the primary 
source files and no pom.xml, etc files.


-- I finally went to git and downloaded a zip that contained 
everything.


-- But the fun just kept happening... I tried to import the 
project into Eclipse, but got over 500 errors.   A large chunk of 
these errors was that every pom file has an invalid or missing a 
"dotGit" folder name.


-- Also, I tried following the 

Re: Building James 3.3.0 in Eclipse

2019-08-31 Thread Jerry Malcolm
Thanks for the info, Garry.  But I'm still confused.  Are you saying 
that it is no longer possible to build from the source on Eclipse?  I 
realize the team may be pushing docker.  But there are still non-docker 
binaries that got built someway.  I just want to recreate those binaries 
with my code additions.  But first I want to just build with the 
official source untouched and verify that works.  Then I'll add my 
changes and rebuild.


You said the .git files are from the .git repository.  I don't doubt 
that.  But I'm not a git guru.  I'm still not sure how to fix the errors 
I'm getting (~400+ of these):


org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoExecutionException: .git directory is not 
found! Please specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml


I do not know anything about pom syntax.  I have no clue how/where to 
"specify a valid [dotGitDirectory] in your pom.xml" (times 400)  
Does this error mean that there isn't a gitDirectory defined in the 
pom.xml and there should be? Or does it mean that one is defined 
somewhere and the specified directory doesn't exist on my file system?  
I guess it'd be too much to ask for this error message to include the 
directory it found and which of the 400 pom.xml files the error refers 
to. (Sorry... I'm just frustrated at less-than-useful error messages).


Did I download an invalid source zip?  Is there a different zip (or 
additional zips that contain the correct pom files? ) I simply went to 
github and downloaded the latest source zip file.


Where do I start?  I really don't want to have to learn how to build on 
Linux unless there's an official word that says Eclipse is no longer 
supported as a build platform.  I need to use Eclipse to debug my code.  
I just want to download the correct source, import it into Eclipse, and 
build it.  I just can't understand why I can't get anywhere near a 
successful build.  What am I doing wrong?


Jerry

On 8/31/2019 5:25 PM, Garry Hurley wrote:

Jerry, I had to download the source, run configure and make on a Linux system. 
The problem is that the source is made to build onto a docker system on 
Windows. Those of us who choose not to run docker and run a real operating 
system often have issues. Those .git files are from the .git repository. If you 
did a git clone, create your workspace from the local git repo or import 
existing maven projects into eclipse from the repo. This serves two purposes. 
1, it allows you to keep your project up to date and 2, it allows you to commit 
if you have any changes to the existing code you want to push up for others.

I haven’t built anything after 3.3.0 was finalizedbecause the government 
finally approved 3.3.0 for use (ironically, they had been insisting that 
3.0.4beta was safe to use in production and I outright refused to put that in 
place).

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 31, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Jerry Malcolm  wrote:

Something else I just found... the link to a tutorial at 
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apache-james-v3-with-eclipse
 in the Eclipse build section is dead.  No DNS entry.



On 8/31/2019 4:54 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
Correction... the build instructions page link should be: 
https://james.apache.org/server/3/dev-build.html



On 8/31/2019 4:52 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
I'm trying to build the latest stable James 3.3.0 in Eclipse.

-- The link to the 3.3.0 source zip on the downloads page is dead 
(https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/james/server/3.3.0/james-server-sources-3.3.0.zip)

-- I figured out the correct link: 
http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip
 and downloaded the zip.  But the zip contains ONLY the primary source files 
and no pom.xml, etc files.

-- I finally went to git and downloaded a zip that contained everything.

-- But the fun just kept happening... I tried to import the project into Eclipse, but got 
over 500 errors.   A large chunk of these errors was that every pom file has an invalid 
or missing a "dotGit" folder name.

-- Also, I tried following the instructions here: 
http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip -- In 
the section titled "prepare projects" it says to copy files from: 
server/container/spring/src/main/config/james and from 
server/container/src/main/config/james Apparently, the folder structures have completely 
changed since that was written. Neither of those folder exist, and it wasn't obvious 
where they moved to.

-- I know enough about eclipse to get by.  I know nothing about maven (and for 
now would like to keep it as close to that way as possible).  I just want to 
add a few tweaks to James 3.3 that I added back in v3b5 and get the latest 
james into production. I'm sure there's something missing or some setting wrong 
in Eclipse or in the Maven plug-in.  I did a complete clean install of Eclipse 
(Java EE version) and Maven on a different machine just to make sure there were 
no issues with 

Re: Building James 3.3.0 in Eclipse

2019-08-31 Thread Garry Hurley
Jerry, I had to download the source, run configure and make on a Linux system. 
The problem is that the source is made to build onto a docker system on 
Windows. Those of us who choose not to run docker and run a real operating 
system often have issues. Those .git files are from the .git repository. If you 
did a git clone, create your workspace from the local git repo or import 
existing maven projects into eclipse from the repo. This serves two purposes. 
1, it allows you to keep your project up to date and 2, it allows you to commit 
if you have any changes to the existing code you want to push up for others. 

I haven’t built anything after 3.3.0 was finalizedbecause the government 
finally approved 3.3.0 for use (ironically, they had been insisting that 
3.0.4beta was safe to use in production and I outright refused to put that in 
place). 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Jerry Malcolm  wrote:
> 
> Something else I just found... the link to a tutorial at 
> http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apache-james-v3-with-eclipse
>  in the Eclipse build section is dead.  No DNS entry.
> 
> 
>> On 8/31/2019 4:54 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
>> Correction... the build instructions page link should be: 
>> https://james.apache.org/server/3/dev-build.html
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/31/2019 4:52 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
>>> I'm trying to build the latest stable James 3.3.0 in Eclipse.
>>> 
>>> -- The link to the 3.3.0 source zip on the downloads page is dead 
>>> (https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/james/server/3.3.0/james-server-sources-3.3.0.zip)
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -- I figured out the correct link: 
>>> http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip
>>>  and downloaded the zip.  But the zip contains ONLY the primary source 
>>> files and no pom.xml, etc files.
>>> 
>>> -- I finally went to git and downloaded a zip that contained everything.
>>> 
>>> -- But the fun just kept happening... I tried to import the project into 
>>> Eclipse, but got over 500 errors.   A large chunk of these errors was that 
>>> every pom file has an invalid or missing a "dotGit" folder name.
>>> 
>>> -- Also, I tried following the instructions here: 
>>> http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip
>>>  -- In the section titled "prepare projects" it says to copy files from: 
>>> server/container/spring/src/main/config/james and from 
>>> server/container/src/main/config/james Apparently, the folder structures 
>>> have completely changed since that was written. Neither of those folder 
>>> exist, and it wasn't obvious where they moved to.
>>> 
>>> -- I know enough about eclipse to get by.  I know nothing about maven (and 
>>> for now would like to keep it as close to that way as possible).  I just 
>>> want to add a few tweaks to James 3.3 that I added back in v3b5 and get the 
>>> latest james into production. I'm sure there's something missing or some 
>>> setting wrong in Eclipse or in the Maven plug-in.  I did a complete clean 
>>> install of Eclipse (Java EE version) and Maven on a different machine just 
>>> to make sure there were no issues with my original Eclipse.  No change.
>>> 
>>> Any help on resolving the hundreds of import errors and where to find all 
>>> of these files that have moved since the instructions were written will be 
>>> appreciated.   I'm at a total loss.  I really just need to get this thing 
>>> to build.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Building James 3.3.0 in Eclipse

2019-08-31 Thread Jerry Malcolm
Something else I just found... the link to a tutorial at 
http://blog.bonnydoonmedia.com/post.cfm/walkthrough-tutorials-compiling-apache-james-v3-with-eclipse 
in the Eclipse build section is dead.  No DNS entry.



On 8/31/2019 4:54 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
Correction... the build instructions page link should be: 
https://james.apache.org/server/3/dev-build.html



On 8/31/2019 4:52 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:

I'm trying to build the latest stable James 3.3.0 in Eclipse.

-- The link to the 3.3.0 source zip on the downloads page is dead 
(https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/james/server/3.3.0/james-server-sources-3.3.0.zip) 



-- I figured out the correct link: 
http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip 
and downloaded the zip.  But the zip contains ONLY the primary source 
files and no pom.xml, etc files.


-- I finally went to git and downloaded a zip that contained everything.

-- But the fun just kept happening... I tried to import the project 
into Eclipse, but got over 500 errors.   A large chunk of these 
errors was that every pom file has an invalid or missing a "dotGit" 
folder name.


-- Also, I tried following the instructions here: 
http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip 
-- In the section titled "prepare projects" it says to copy files 
from: server/container/spring/src/main/config/james and from 
server/container/src/main/config/james Apparently, the folder 
structures have completely changed since that was written. Neither of 
those folder exist, and it wasn't obvious where they moved to.


-- I know enough about eclipse to get by.  I know nothing about maven 
(and for now would like to keep it as close to that way as 
possible).  I just want to add a few tweaks to James 3.3 that I added 
back in v3b5 and get the latest james into production. I'm sure 
there's something missing or some setting wrong in Eclipse or in the 
Maven plug-in.  I did a complete clean install of Eclipse (Java EE 
version) and Maven on a different machine just to make sure there 
were no issues with my original Eclipse.  No change.


Any help on resolving the hundreds of import errors and where to find 
all of these files that have moved since the instructions were 
written will be appreciated.   I'm at a total loss.  I really just 
need to get this thing to build.


Thanks.

Jerry




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Re: Building James 3.3.0 in Eclipse

2019-08-31 Thread Jerry Malcolm
Correction... the build instructions page link should be: 
https://james.apache.org/server/3/dev-build.html



On 8/31/2019 4:52 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:

I'm trying to build the latest stable James 3.3.0 in Eclipse.

-- The link to the 3.3.0 source zip on the downloads page is dead 
(https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/james/server/3.3.0/james-server-sources-3.3.0.zip) 



-- I figured out the correct link: 
http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip 
and downloaded the zip.  But the zip contains ONLY the primary source 
files and no pom.xml, etc files.


-- I finally went to git and downloaded a zip that contained everything.

-- But the fun just kept happening... I tried to import the project 
into Eclipse, but got over 500 errors.   A large chunk of these errors 
was that every pom file has an invalid or missing a "dotGit" folder name.


-- Also, I tried following the instructions here: 
http://mirrors.gigenet.com/apache/james/server/3.3.0/james-project-3.3.0-src.zip 
-- In the section titled "prepare projects" it says to copy files 
from: server/container/spring/src/main/config/james and from 
server/container/src/main/config/james Apparently, the folder 
structures have completely changed since that was written. Neither of 
those folder exist, and it wasn't obvious where they moved to.


-- I know enough about eclipse to get by.  I know nothing about maven 
(and for now would like to keep it as close to that way as possible).  
I just want to add a few tweaks to James 3.3 that I added back in v3b5 
and get the latest james into production.  I'm sure there's something 
missing or some setting wrong in Eclipse or in the Maven plug-in.  I 
did a complete clean install of Eclipse (Java EE version) and Maven on 
a different machine just to make sure there were no issues with my 
original Eclipse.  No change.


Any help on resolving the hundreds of import errors and where to find 
all of these files that have moved since the instructions were written 
will be appreciated.   I'm at a total loss.  I really just need to get 
this thing to build.


Thanks.

Jerry




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