ShopTalk: Ignore - Test

2002-09-05 Thread Brad Smith
Title: Ignore - Test



Just a test





Re: ShopTalk: Bag quest

2002-09-05 Thread Jen Kuntz

Hi Mark

I found a bunch of places - mostly online retailers - by searching on google
for viper golf bags or even viper 2180 golf bag.  Check it out, see if
anything is in your area...

Jen



- Original Message -
From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:24 PM
Subject: ShopTalk: Bag quest


> A little off topic, bu I am needing assistance in locating a golf bag to
> replace some stolen items.
>
> I am looking for a Viper 2180 in black. This is a conventional bag with
> a 15 way divider. Any help would be appreciated (GS has discontinued
> this bag and is out. Is also know at times as a Viking 2180).
>
> Mark
>
>




ShopTalk: Bag quest

2002-09-05 Thread Mark A. Patton

A little off topic, bu I am needing assistance in locating a golf bag to
replace some stolen items.

I am looking for a Viper 2180 in black. This is a conventional bag with
a 15 way divider. Any help would be appreciated (GS has discontinued
this bag and is out. Is also know at times as a Viking 2180).

Mark




Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-05 Thread Lloyd Hackman



Peter T
 
I built my first frequency meter in 1972 and still 
use it, except that I have changed the clamp length to the more standard 5" 
instead of the original 8" I used. By knowing the frequency of the first mode of 
vibration of the golf club you can relate the time of one quarter of a cycle to 
the time between club release in the swing and ball impact. It is this time that 
the club must return from the flexed position or peak load back to straight and 
square at ball impact. I am not allowed to say what fitting system dose that for 
you but there is one. Initially the frequency meter was only used to match 
clubs in a set. This frequency was the best measurement of club stiffness 
because it included shaft stiffness, club length and club weight all as a 
single parameter. When I looked at patenting a frequency meter in 1973 I 
found a Patent had already been issued to a fellow in England who worked for 
Swillkin Golf. They used it to build and match flatline sets of clubs. I you 
want more information about the English patent I have a copy of it at my house 
in Florida. I will be back there in about 3 to 4 weeks.
 
llhack 
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Peter T. Sabin, neoGolfMatching 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:04 
  PM
  Subject: ShopTalk: History of 
  Frequency
  Can anyone recall when the frequency of a shaft/club became a 
  recognized standard for matching or building clubs?I am puzzled as to 
  why this measurement became a clubmaking and fitting tool. My 
  understanding is that frequency is, in essence, the resonant frequency of a 
  shaft/club. If so, it escapes me as to why this has an effect on the golf 
  swing. I can understand how the period of a finished club (i.e. the 
  time it takes to complete a cycle when allowed to swing about the axis point) 
  affects the golf swing. But the resonant frequency? I don't 
  understand.A little history would be great.Thanks.
  -- 
  Peter T. Sabin (aka phineasToad)
  
neoGolfMatchingeMail: 
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Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-05 Thread Bernie Baymiller



PT,
 
I'm no historian on this subject, but frequency is certainly a simple 
way to compare stiffness of one shaft with another. Ed Bozman was one 
of the first to use a frequency meter on this forum, and had some interesting 
background on it...but he left the forum about 4 years ago. Maybe somebody has a 
record of his remarks.
 
(Build yourself an NF2 and you can forget all about frequency numbers.) 
:-)
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Peter T. Sabin, neoGolfMatching 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:04 
  PM
  Subject: ShopTalk: History of 
  Frequency
  Can anyone recall when the frequency of a shaft/club became a 
  recognized standard for matching or building clubs?I am puzzled as to 
  why this measurement became a clubmaking and fitting tool. My 
  understanding is that frequency is, in essence, the resonant frequency of a 
  shaft/club. If so, it escapes me as to why this has an effect on the golf 
  swing. I can understand how the period of a finished club (i.e. the 
  time it takes to complete a cycle when allowed to swing about the axis point) 
  affects the golf swing. But the resonant frequency? I don't 
  understand.A little history would be great.Thanks.
  -- 
  Peter T. Sabin (aka phineasToad)
  
neoGolfMatchingeMail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-05 Thread Peter T. Sabin, neoGolfMatching




Can anyone recall when the frequency of a shaft/club became a recognized
standard for matching or building clubs?

I am puzzled as to why this measurement became a clubmaking and fitting tool.


My understanding is that frequency is, in essence, the resonant frequency
of a shaft/club. If so, it escapes me as to why this has an effect on the
golf swing. 

I can understand how the period of a finished club (i.e. the time it takes
to complete a cycle when allowed to swing about the axis point) affects the
golf swing. But the resonant frequency? I don't understand.

A little history would be great.

Thanks.
-- 
 
Peter T. Sabin (aka phineasToad)
 

  neoGolfMatching
 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 





Re: ShopTalk: UPS pt III

2002-09-05 Thread tromero


TFlan

I am happy you received your packages.  The big brown brigade always
delivers
their packages, it may not be to the right address, but they get rid of
them.

Honestly, I would be willing to bet that your driver just wanted to get the
packages off his truck (as an "ex-UPS driver" I know that drivers don't
want to
bring packages in the hub that will add to their load the next day).  I
will
not discount the idea that the driver is "dim," that could entirely be
possible.  But I think it is more of an issue of laziness and a lack of
pride
in his work.  You may have a bad apple, but the bunch may still be good.

TR