Re: [SIESTA-L] Is it appropriate to use a same basis set for a junction when it is stretched?

2013-01-16 Por tôpico Herbert Fruchtl
Look for information on Basis Set Superposition Error (BSSE). SIESTA uses 
atom-centred basis sets, so BSSE does affect calculations.


Basically you get an unphysical attractive force that favours shorter distances.

  Herbert

On 16/01/13 05:29, Guangping Zhang wrote:

Dear siesta users:
I now use siesta to investigate the elongation of a molecular junction. When the
molecular junction is stretched, the number of atoms is unchanged, also the
basis set is the same. My question is : is there any problem to use the same
basis set during the elongation of the moleuclar junction? Can this affect the
energy? Can the energies be compared between different stretch?
Any advice is welcome.
Guangping
2013-01-16

Guangping Zhang


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Herbert Fruchtl
Senior Scientific Computing Officer
School of Chemistry, School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of St Andrews
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The University of St Andrews is a charity registered in Scotland:
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Re: [SIESTA-L] why my running did stop.

2013-01-16 Por tôpico I. Camps
Your message is on the list now!

Camps

On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Mostafa Shabani wrote:

 hi miss talebi.
  how can i ask my question like you from siesta mailing list
 i have problem with my fdf file.i register to mailing list but i can not
 see my questions and answer to them
 please help mr thanks.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Abraham Hmiel 
 abehm...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'abehm...@gmail.com');
  wrote:

 I found the line,

 # MD.NumCGsteps  550  # Number of CG steps for

 which is out-commented. (550 steps is very large, by the way! Try 20 or
 30 at a time)

 Remove the '#' to perform a geometry relaxation. If you don't specify the
 number of steps, the computer will just assume I am going to do a
 single-point energy calculation. Also, because you are simulating a
 molecule (a graphene flake passivated by H, it seems), you do not need
 nearly as many k-points as you are using and the band lines you are using
 don't really make any sense because of the 0D symmetry.

 Also, you might want to upgrade to the latest version of SIESTA. Go to
 the home page for the newest release. http://icmab.cat/leem/siesta/

 Best,

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Zahra Talebi 
 talebi_z2...@yahoo.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'talebi_z2...@yahoo.com');
  wrote:



  hi every body,
 I attached my out file after running a siesta, can any body explain for
 me that why the running stoped.
 best regurds




 --
 *Abraham Hmiel*
 Katherine Belz Groves Fellow in Nanoscience
 Xue Group, College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering at SUNY Albany
 http://abehmiel.net/about




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@mps


Re: Fw: [SIESTA-L] why my running did stop.

2013-01-16 Por tôpico Mostafa Shabani
hi miss talebi.
 how can i ask my question like you from siesta mailing list
i have problem with my fdf file.i register to mailing list but i can not
see my questions and answer to them
please help mr thanks.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Abraham Hmiel abehm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found the line,

 # MD.NumCGsteps  550  # Number of CG steps for

 which is out-commented. (550 steps is very large, by the way! Try 20 or 30
 at a time)

 Remove the '#' to perform a geometry relaxation. If you don't specify the
 number of steps, the computer will just assume I am going to do a
 single-point energy calculation. Also, because you are simulating a
 molecule (a graphene flake passivated by H, it seems), you do not need
 nearly as many k-points as you are using and the band lines you are using
 don't really make any sense because of the 0D symmetry.

 Also, you might want to upgrade to the latest version of SIESTA. Go to the
 home page for the newest release. http://icmab.cat/leem/siesta/

 Best,

 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Zahra Talebi talebi_z2...@yahoo.comwrote:



  hi every body,
 I attached my out file after running a siesta, can any body explain for
 me that why the running stoped.
 best regurds




 --
 *Abraham Hmiel*
 Katherine Belz Groves Fellow in Nanoscience
 Xue Group, College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering at SUNY Albany
 http://abehmiel.net/about




[SIESTA-L] Pseudopotential reading error

2013-01-16 Por tôpico Joachim Breternitz

Hello,

I am experiencing an error, I am not able to determine more closely 
than: The program aborts while using the SPLIT program for the 
pseudopotential verification of Nitrogen while trying to do some crystal 
structure optimisations.


The main program parses Abort, and the last lines of output are as 
follows:


===
/basis_specs

atom: Called for N_gga (Z =   7)

read_vps: Pseudopotential generation method:
read_vps: ATM3  Troullier-Martins
Total valence charge:5.0

read_vps: Pseudopotential includes a core correction:
read_vps: Pseudo-core for xc-correction

xc_check: Exchange-correlation functional:
xc_check: GGA Perdew, Burke  Ernzerhof 1996
V l=0 = -2*Zval/r beyond r=  1.4606
V l=1 = -2*Zval/r beyond r=  1.4606
V l=2 = -2*Zval/r beyond r=  1.4606
V l=3 = -2*Zval/r beyond r=  1.4606
All V_l potentials equal beyond r=  1.4606
This should be close to max(r_c) in ps generation
All pots = -2*Zval/r beyond r=  1.4606

VLOCAL1: 99.0% of the norm of Vloc inside 20.347 Ry
VLOCAL1: 99.9% of the norm of Vloc inside 46.372 Ry
atom: Maximum radius for 4*pi*r*r*local-pseudopot. charge1.76189
atom: Maximum radius for r*vlocal+2*Zval:1.53550
GHOST: No ghost state for L =  0
GHOST: No ghost state for L =  1
GHOST: No ghost state for L =  2
GHOST: No ghost state for L =  3

KBgen: Kleinman-Bylander projectors:
   l= 0   rc=  1.634559   el= -1.363963   Ekb=  5.296955   kbcos=  0.335621
   l= 1   rc=  1.614250   el= -0.521451   Ekb= -5.259161   kbcos= -0.433408
   l= 2   rc=  1.718383   el=  0.001991   Ekb= -1.271464   kbcos= -0.007566
   l= 3   rc=  1.761893   el=  0.003093   Ekb= -0.494769   kbcos= -0.001015

KBgen: Total number of  Kleinman-Bylander projectors:   16
atom: 
-


atom: SANKEY-TYPE ORBITALS:
atom: Selected multiple-zeta basis: split

SPLIT: Orbitals with angular momentum L= 0

SPLIT: Basis orbitals for state 2s

SPLIT: PAO cut-off radius determined from an
SPLIT: energy shift=  0.01 Ry

   izeta = 1
 lambda =1.00
 rc =3.970931
 energy =   -1.354621
kinetic =1.185116
potential(screened) =   -2.539737
   potential(ionic) =   -8.071102

   izeta = 2
 rmatch =2.905100
  splitnorm =0.15
 energy =   -1.158092


It stops at the one line or the other, but always in that region. I have 
tried the LDA(ca) and the GGA(PBE) pseudos from the website with their 
corresponding calculations, but this gives always the same result.


I would be very happy, if you could give me a hint how to work around 
this problem.


Thanks a lot
Joachim

--
Joachim Breternitz
PhD student
School of Chemistry
University of Glasgow
joac...@chem.gla.ac.uk



Re: Re: [SIESTA-L] Is it appropriate to use a same basis set for a junction when it is stretched?

2013-01-16 Por tôpico Guangping Zhang
Dear Herbert,

Thanks for your suggestion.

As I known, the BSSE is always used in the investigation of adsorption of a 
molecule on a surface or the interaction of two or more subsystems.

Otherwise, I may misunderstand your meaning. If so, can you give some more 
details?

In my case, the system keeps the same, only for each configuration, the atomic 
coordinates are changed by fraction of Angstrom. Is BSEE also need to be 
carried on at this time? If so, when we do an geometry optimization in SIESTA, 
the BSSE should be taken care of and I think it is not necessary to do so in 
the geometry optimization.

I intend to mean that in the elongation of the molecular junction, the center 
of each basis orbital is changed, is there some issues to take care of for this.

Thanks for your suggestion.

Best 

Guangping

2013-01-17



Guangping Zhang



发件人:Herbert Fruchtl
发送时间:2013-01-16 17:37
主题:Re: [SIESTA-L] Is it appropriate to use a same basis set for a junction when 
it is stretched?
收件人:siesta-lsiesta-l@uam.es
抄送:

Look for information on Basis Set Superposition Error (BSSE). SIESTA uses  
atom-centred basis sets, so BSSE does affect calculations. 

Basically you get an unphysical attractive force that favours shorter 
distances. 

   Herbert 

On 16/01/13 05:29, Guangping Zhang wrote: 
 Dear siesta users: 
 I now use siesta to investigate the elongation of a molecular junction. When 
 the 
 molecular junction is stretched, the number of atoms is unchanged, also the 
 basis set is the same. My question is : is there any problem to use the same 
 basis set during the elongation of the moleuclar junction? Can this affect 
 the 
 energy? Can the energies be compared between different stretch? 
 Any advice is welcome. 
 Guangping 
 2013-01-16 
 
  
 Guangping Zhang 

--  
Herbert Fruchtl 
Senior Scientific Computing Officer 
School of Chemistry, School of Mathematics and Statistics 
University of St Andrews 
-- 
The University of St Andrews is a charity registered in Scotland: 
No SC013532