Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for BiFeO3
Dear A. Postnikov, Yes, the structure that I'm currently using is supposed to be antiferromagnetic and can be found here:mp-23501: FeBiO3 (trigonal, R3c, 161) | | | | mp-23501: FeBiO3 (trigonal, R3c, 161) Browse many computed properties for this trigonal FeBiO3 compound, including formation energy from the elements,... | | | Also I've uploaded on my drive two band structures with their respective PDOS from calculations that i tried, as I'm not sure how the mailing list treats attachments. One of them has the total magnetization imposed to be 0, the other one not, but both seem to be antiferromagnetic as Qtot(up)=Qtot(down)=49.Bands – Dysk Google | | | | Bands – Dysk Google | | | You can see that my spin up and spin down energies are pretty much identical (they should be in orange and blue, but they just overlap giving a darker shade of orange), while on the materialsproject website there is quite a big difference between them (the general shape of the band structure being somewhat similar). Also my PDOS seems to look the same for the 2 spin orientations. I am quite confused at what may be the cause of this problem. Regards,Ioan Ghitiu On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 01:44:15 AM GMT+2, Andrei Postnikov wrote: #yiv2106717520 body {min-height:100%;color:#00;font-size:12pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}Dear ionutghitiu,your message is a bit confusing. You say your band structures are like in other calculations,the magnetic moments are like in the literature - what is the problem, then?The list of different parameters you tried is impressive but doesn't give a clue.You have large Fe magnetic moments but you see no spin splitting in (total?) DOS and bands -are you looking at an antiferromagnetic solution? Best regards Andrei Postnikov - ionut ghitiu a écrit : >Dear Siesta users, I've been trying to obtain the band structure of BiFeO3 for some time now, mind you it's my first project involving Siesta or dtf so please bear with me. The thing is, the band structures that I get are really similar to the ones from materialsproject for the same structure (I am using the R3C primitive cell) but for the fact that the system seems to be spin degenerate, and so I get no splitting of the bands or difference in DOS. To give you some details about the system, I'm currently using FR/SR pseudopotentials from Pseudo-Dojo and an optimized base, but I also tried with the default one (up to TZDP i think). My MeshCutoff usually was 250 Ry, but recently changed it to 350 Ry, and I also had a FilterCutoff of 200-250 Ry. Also, I've been using a 5x5x5 gamma-centered kgrid and moved to a 7x7x7 . I'm initializing the Spin as polarised and setting the spins for the 2 Fe atoms as +/- (tried with values and with InitSpin.AF). As tolerances I use 1.d-5 for DM and the default one for HTol, but also tried with 1.d-6 for DM and 4.d-4 eV for the Hamiltonian. I tried both relaxed and unrelaxed systems. The thing is the magnetic moments written in the MullikenPop are close to what I've found in literature +-4.37 for Fe, 0.004 for Bi, and 0.029 for O. Also, I've tried experimenting a little on Fe2O3 with the same R3C structure and have the same problem, while on NiO everything went well. For Fe I'm using 3s2, 3p6, 3d6 and 4s2 electrons for the base. Could you please give me any hints on what I'm doing wrong or what to try next? I feel like I'm going in circles. Thanks a lot! -- SIESTA is supported by the Spanish Research Agency (AEI) and by the European H2020 MaX Centre of Excellence (http://www.max-centre.eu/)
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for BiFeO3
Dear ionutghitiu,your message is a bit confusing. You say your band structures are like in other calculations,the magnetic moments are like in the literature - what is the problem, then?The list of different parameters you tried is impressive but doesn't give a clue.You have large Fe magnetic moments but you see no spin splitting in (total?) DOS and bands -are you looking at an antiferromagnetic solution? Best regardsAndrei Postnikov - ionut ghitiu a écrit : >Dear Siesta users, I've been trying to obtain the band structure of BiFeO3 for some time now, mind you it's my first project involving Siesta or dtf so please bear with me. The thing is, the band structures that I get are really similar to the ones from materialsproject for the same structure (I am using the R3C primitive cell) but for the fact that the system seems to be spin degenerate, and so I get no splitting of the bands or difference in DOS. To give you some details about the system, I'm currently using FR/SR pseudopotentials from Pseudo-Dojo and an optimized base, but I also tried with the default one (up to TZDP i think). My MeshCutoff usually was 250 Ry, but recently changed it to 350 Ry, and I also had a FilterCutoff of 200-250 Ry. Also, I've been using a 5x5x5 gamma-centered kgrid and moved to a 7x7x7 . I'm initializing the Spin as polarised and setting the spins for the 2 Fe atoms as +/- (tried with values and with InitSpin.AF). As tolerances I use 1.d-5 for DM and the default one for HTol, but also tried with 1.d-6 for DM and 4.d-4 eV for the Hamiltonian. I tried both relaxed and unrelaxed systems. The thing is the magnetic moments written in the MullikenPop are close to what I've found in literature +-4.37 for Fe, 0.004 for Bi, and 0.029 for O. Also, I've tried experimenting a little on Fe2O3 with the same R3C structure and have the same problem, while on NiO everything went well. For Fe I'm using 3s2, 3p6, 3d6 and 4s2 electrons for the base. Could you please give me any hints on what I'm doing wrong or what to try next? I feel like I'm going in circles. Thanks a lot! -- SIESTA is supported by the Spanish Research Agency (AEI) and by the European H2020 MaX Centre of Excellence (http://www.max-centre.eu/)
[SIESTA-L] Band structure for BiFeO3
Dear Siesta users, I've been trying to obtain the band structure of BiFeO3 for some time now, mind you it's my first project involving Siesta or dtf so please bear with me. The thing is, the band structures that I get are really similar to the ones from materialsproject for the same structure (I am using the R3C primitive cell) but for the fact that the system seems to be spin degenerate, and so I get no splitting of the bands or difference in DOS. To give you some details about the system, I'm currently using FR/SR pseudopotentials from Pseudo-Dojo and an optimized base, but I also tried with the default one (up to TZDP i think). My MeshCutoff usually was 250 Ry, but recently changed it to 350 Ry, and I also had a FilterCutoff of 200-250 Ry. Also, I've been using a 5x5x5 gamma-centered kgrid and moved to a 7x7x7 . I'm initializing the Spin as polarised and setting the spins for the 2 Fe atoms as +/- (tried with values and with InitSpin.AF). As tolerances I use 1.d-5 for DM and the default one for HTol, but also tried with 1.d-6 for DM and 4.d-4 eV for the Hamiltonian. I tried both relaxed and unrelaxed systems. The thing is the magnetic moments written in the MullikenPop are close to what I've found in literature +-4.37 for Fe, 0.004 for Bi, and 0.029 for O. Also, I've tried experimenting a little on Fe2O3 with the same R3C structure and have the same problem, while on NiO everything went well. For Fe I'm using 3s2, 3p6, 3d6 and 4s2 electrons for the base. Could you please give me any hints on what I'm doing wrong or what to try next? I feel like I'm going in circles. Thanks a lot! -- SIESTA is supported by the Spanish Research Agency (AEI) and by the European H2020 MaX Centre of Excellence (http://www.max-centre.eu/)
[SIESTA-L] band structure and PDOS of the central molecule of device
Dear SIESTA users, I want to determine band structure and PDOS of only central molecule in a device. Does anyone know how to make the input files? Please give any suggestions. Thanks Ankita
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure calculations
Band-structures are typically a quantity that is of interest in the minimal unit-cell representation of the electrodes, and/or the periodic minimal part of the scattering region. The bandstructure of the full device is somewhat difficult to interpret. Den fre. 24. aug. 2018 kl. 22.13 skrev ANKITA JOSHI : > Dear SIESTA users, > > I am bit confused regarding the band structure calculations. The procedure > followed to calculate band structure is: > > 1. First I did full relaxation of the system electrode-molecule-electrode. > 2. Then, using the optimized coordinates of the system > electrode-molecule-molecule, I have done the band structure calculations. > > Is this the correct approach? Also, how to do the band structure > calculation only for the scattering region? > > Thanks > Ankita > -- Kind regards Nick
[SIESTA-L] Band structure calculations
Dear SIESTA users, I am bit confused regarding the band structure calculations. The procedure followed to calculate band structure is: 1. First I did full relaxation of the system electrode-molecule-electrode. 2. Then, using the optimized coordinates of the system electrode-molecule-molecule, I have done the band structure calculations. Is this the correct approach? Also, how to do the band structure calculation only for the scattering region? Thanks Ankita
Re[2]: [SIESTA-L] Band structure (Silver)
Choose the minimum number of atoms which you can build your whole structure based on lattice vectors. For example the unit cell of graphene in consist of 4 or 2 atoms, phosphorene is 4 and etc Based on your unit cell and the lattice constants calculate the reciprocal vectors. Draw your structure based on your reciprocal vectors and try to calculate the (x,y) of the edges. They will be M,K,S,Y THE (x,y) will be in your bandline block. Regards, Mehdi ___ Mehdi Shamekhi MSc student of Electrical Engineering Department of Electrical Engineering University of Zanjan, Zanjan, Iran On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 00:36, Dinesh Thapa wrote: Dear Nick, I appreciate for your suggestions. I still get confused as you said that i am not calculating minimal Ag unit cell. What does it mean ? Since i took Ag-FCC structure as unit cell. Also, How could i get vertical lines and its label like K, L, M ... as high symmetric points in Band structure plot. sincerely, Dinesh On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Nick Papior wrote: In seems you need to do multiple things differently :1) too low mesh cutoff 2) you need to sample the brilloun zone sufficiently3) you are not calculating the minimal Ag unit cell The first two you need to converge sufficiently. Check the manual for details. -- Kind regards Nick Papior On Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 22:00 Dinesh Thapa, wrote: I tried to Plot band structure for Silver (Ag) using SIESTA But i am not getting good plot as that of VASP. Also, i could not get vertical lines on the particular high symmetric points. I tried to ayttach my input.fdf and JPEG of Band structure. Any body;s help in this is highly appreciated. with regards Dinesh
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure (Silver)
Dear Nick, I appreciate for your suggestions. I still get confused as you said that i am not calculating minimal Ag unit cell. What does it mean ? Since i took Ag-FCC structure as unit cell. Also, How could i get vertical lines and its label like K, L, M ... as high symmetric points in Band structure plot. sincerely, Dinesh On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Nick Papior wrote: > In seems you need to do multiple things differently : > 1) too low mesh cutoff > 2) you need to sample the brilloun zone sufficiently > 3) you are not calculating the minimal Ag unit cell > > The first two you need to converge sufficiently. Check the manual for > details. > > > -- > > Kind regards Nick Papior > > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 22:00 Dinesh Thapa, wrote: > >> I tried to Plot band structure for Silver (Ag) using SIESTA But i am not >> getting good plot as that of VASP. Also, i could not get vertical lines on >> the particular high symmetric points. I tried to ayttach my input.fdf and >> JPEG of Band structure. Any body;s help in this is highly appreciated. >> >> with regards >> Dinesh >> >
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure (Silver)
In seems you need to do multiple things differently : 1) too low mesh cutoff 2) you need to sample the brilloun zone sufficiently 3) you are not calculating the minimal Ag unit cell The first two you need to converge sufficiently. Check the manual for details. -- Kind regards Nick Papior On Thu, 21 Jun 2018, 22:00 Dinesh Thapa, wrote: > I tried to Plot band structure for Silver (Ag) using SIESTA But i am not > getting good plot as that of VASP. Also, i could not get vertical lines on > the particular high symmetric points. I tried to ayttach my input.fdf and > JPEG of Band structure. Any body;s help in this is highly appreciated. > > with regards > Dinesh >
[SIESTA-L] Band structure (Silver)
I tried to Plot band structure for Silver (Ag) using SIESTA But i am not getting good plot as that of VASP. Also, i could not get vertical lines on the particular high symmetric points. I tried to ayttach my input.fdf and JPEG of Band structure. Any body;s help in this is highly appreciated. with regards Dinesh ag.fdf Description: Binary data
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure
Dear Dinesh, Please search the archives, at least make an attempt to search the available documentation, you will get more information. As a beginner, it is advisable to search the available tutorials. You may look at the below link. It may help you. 1. https://departments.icmab.es/leem/siesta/tlv14/index.html 2. http://personales.unican.es/junqueraj/JavierJunquera_files/Metodos/Hands-on-session.html With regards kamaraj On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:01 AM, Dinesh Thapa wrote: > Being subscribed to SIESTA, I want to ask how can i correctly calculate > charge density, DOS and band structure (with vertical lines in high > symmetry KPOINTS). Since i am new in SIESTA. > > with regards, > Dinesh Thapa > -- M.Kamaraj, CSIR-SRF C/o Dr.V Subramanian FASc, FNASc, Inorganic & Physical Chemistry Division CSIR-Central Leather Research Institute, Adyar, Chennai, India. 600 020. http://clri.res.in/subramanian/index.html https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=Jm-3d-YJ=en https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Manoharan_Kamaraj
[SIESTA-L] Band structure
Being subscribed to SIESTA, I want to ask how can i correctly calculate charge density, DOS and band structure (with vertical lines in high symmetry KPOINTS). Since i am new in SIESTA. with regards, Dinesh Thapa
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
Again thank you so so much Prof. Nick Papior On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 11:44 PM, Nick Papiorwrote: > I used PDOS from siesta, just as you said you did in your original post. > > 2018-02-04 17:25 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : > >> Just let me know how did you calculate the DOS.. >> >> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:04 AM, Nick Papior wrote: >> >>> Dear Suman, >>> >>> I think you should solve this yourself. >>> >>> 2018-02-02 5:56 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : >>> Dear Nick Papior, Thank you so so much for your help. Can you help me in this regard about how I can get the correct coordinates for plotting the band structure?? On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Nick Papior wrote: > If I run your system without performing cell relaxations I find the > attached eigenvalues (for the Monkhorst-Pack grid). > > In this case there is *only* a bandgab of ~0.5 eV. Provided that the > cell-relaxation does not change the spectrum drastically then this is what > you should suspect in the PDOS. > Secondly, the PDOS is *exactly* reproducing the bandgab in this > calculation. > > 1) I would highly suggest you to perform cell/coordinate relaxations > in one directory, then afterwards perform analysis on the relaxed > structure, PDOS, band-structure, optical, etc. > 2) Possibly your band-structure coordinates are wrong because when I > plot the bandstructure for this structure it does not capture the correct > band gab (this *has* to be the problem). > > 2018-01-31 16:35 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury >: > >> I have just tried to see the variation of TDOS by changing the >> smearing parameter. But I could not observe any change in it. >> >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Suman Chowdhury < >> sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This is the fdf that I have used... >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papior >>> wrote: >>> Dear Suman, Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury < sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com>: > Dear SIESTA User, > > Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. > While plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite > large. However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total > partial > density of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no > existence of > any band gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the > required > band gap. The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any > idea > about these kinds of results... > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- > 79, West Bengal, India.* > > -- Kind regards Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >>> 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >> 79, West Bengal, India.* >> * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards Nick > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards Nick >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, >> West Bengal, India.* >> * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards Nick > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
I used PDOS from siesta, just as you said you did in your original post. 2018-02-04 17:25 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury: > Just let me know how did you calculate the DOS.. > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:04 AM, Nick Papior wrote: > >> Dear Suman, >> >> I think you should solve this yourself. >> >> 2018-02-02 5:56 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : >> >>> Dear Nick Papior, >>> >>> Thank you so so much for your help. Can you help me in this regard about >>> how I can get the correct coordinates for plotting the band structure?? >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Nick Papior >>> wrote: >>> If I run your system without performing cell relaxations I find the attached eigenvalues (for the Monkhorst-Pack grid). In this case there is *only* a bandgab of ~0.5 eV. Provided that the cell-relaxation does not change the spectrum drastically then this is what you should suspect in the PDOS. Secondly, the PDOS is *exactly* reproducing the bandgab in this calculation. 1) I would highly suggest you to perform cell/coordinate relaxations in one directory, then afterwards perform analysis on the relaxed structure, PDOS, band-structure, optical, etc. 2) Possibly your band-structure coordinates are wrong because when I plot the bandstructure for this structure it does not capture the correct band gab (this *has* to be the problem). 2018-01-31 16:35 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : > I have just tried to see the variation of TDOS by changing the > smearing parameter. But I could not observe any change in it. > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Suman Chowdhury < > sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is the fdf that I have used... >> >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papior >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Suman, >>> >>> Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. >>> It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. >>> >>> >>> 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury < >>> sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com>: >>> Dear SIESTA User, Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band gap. The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about these kinds of results... -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards Nick >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >> 79, West Bengal, India.* >> >> >> > > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- > 79, West Bengal, India.* > * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* > > -- Kind regards Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >>> 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards Nick >> > > > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, > West Bengal, India.* > * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* > > -- Kind regards Nick
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
Just let me know how did you calculate the DOS.. On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:04 AM, Nick Papiorwrote: > Dear Suman, > > I think you should solve this yourself. > > 2018-02-02 5:56 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : > >> Dear Nick Papior, >> >> Thank you so so much for your help. Can you help me in this regard about >> how I can get the correct coordinates for plotting the band structure?? >> >> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Nick Papior wrote: >> >>> If I run your system without performing cell relaxations I find the >>> attached eigenvalues (for the Monkhorst-Pack grid). >>> >>> In this case there is *only* a bandgab of ~0.5 eV. Provided that the >>> cell-relaxation does not change the spectrum drastically then this is what >>> you should suspect in the PDOS. >>> Secondly, the PDOS is *exactly* reproducing the bandgab in this >>> calculation. >>> >>> 1) I would highly suggest you to perform cell/coordinate relaxations in >>> one directory, then afterwards perform analysis on the relaxed structure, >>> PDOS, band-structure, optical, etc. >>> 2) Possibly your band-structure coordinates are wrong because when I >>> plot the bandstructure for this structure it does not capture the correct >>> band gab (this *has* to be the problem). >>> >>> 2018-01-31 16:35 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : >>> I have just tried to see the variation of TDOS by changing the smearing parameter. But I could not observe any change in it. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Suman Chowdhury < sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is the fdf that I have used... > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papior > wrote: > >> Dear Suman, >> >> Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. >> It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. >> >> >> 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury < >> sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Dear SIESTA User, >>> >>> Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While >>> plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. >>> However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial >>> density >>> of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any >>> band >>> gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band >>> gap. >>> The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about >>> these >>> kinds of results... >>> >>> -- >>> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >>> 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards Nick >> > > > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- > 79, West Bengal, India.* > > > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards Nick >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, >> West Bengal, India.* >> * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards Nick > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
Dear Suman, I think you should solve this yourself. 2018-02-02 5:56 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury: > Dear Nick Papior, > > Thank you so so much for your help. Can you help me in this regard about > how I can get the correct coordinates for plotting the band structure?? > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Nick Papior wrote: > >> If I run your system without performing cell relaxations I find the >> attached eigenvalues (for the Monkhorst-Pack grid). >> >> In this case there is *only* a bandgab of ~0.5 eV. Provided that the >> cell-relaxation does not change the spectrum drastically then this is what >> you should suspect in the PDOS. >> Secondly, the PDOS is *exactly* reproducing the bandgab in this >> calculation. >> >> 1) I would highly suggest you to perform cell/coordinate relaxations in >> one directory, then afterwards perform analysis on the relaxed structure, >> PDOS, band-structure, optical, etc. >> 2) Possibly your band-structure coordinates are wrong because when I plot >> the bandstructure for this structure it does not capture the correct band >> gab (this *has* to be the problem). >> >> 2018-01-31 16:35 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : >> >>> I have just tried to see the variation of TDOS by changing the smearing >>> parameter. But I could not observe any change in it. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Suman Chowdhury < >>> sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> This is the fdf that I have used... On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papior wrote: > Dear Suman, > > Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. > It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. > > > 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury >: > >> Dear SIESTA User, >> >> Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While >> plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. >> However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density >> of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any >> band >> gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band >> gap. >> The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about >> these >> kinds of results... >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >> 79, West Bengal, India.* >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards Nick > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >>> 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards Nick >> > > > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, > West Bengal, India.* > * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* > > -- Kind regards Nick
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
Dear Nick Papior, Thank you so so much for your help. Can you help me in this regard about how I can get the correct coordinates for plotting the band structure?? On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Nick Papiorwrote: > If I run your system without performing cell relaxations I find the > attached eigenvalues (for the Monkhorst-Pack grid). > > In this case there is *only* a bandgab of ~0.5 eV. Provided that the > cell-relaxation does not change the spectrum drastically then this is what > you should suspect in the PDOS. > Secondly, the PDOS is *exactly* reproducing the bandgab in this > calculation. > > 1) I would highly suggest you to perform cell/coordinate relaxations in > one directory, then afterwards perform analysis on the relaxed structure, > PDOS, band-structure, optical, etc. > 2) Possibly your band-structure coordinates are wrong because when I plot > the bandstructure for this structure it does not capture the correct band > gab (this *has* to be the problem). > > 2018-01-31 16:35 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : > >> I have just tried to see the variation of TDOS by changing the smearing >> parameter. But I could not observe any change in it. >> >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Suman Chowdhury < >> sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This is the fdf that I have used... >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papior >>> wrote: >>> Dear Suman, Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : > Dear SIESTA User, > > Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While > plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. > However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density > of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band > gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band > gap. > The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about > these > kinds of results... > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- > 79, West Bengal, India.* > > -- Kind regards Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >>> 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, >> West Bengal, India.* >> * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards Nick > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
If I run your system without performing cell relaxations I find the attached eigenvalues (for the Monkhorst-Pack grid). In this case there is *only* a bandgab of ~0.5 eV. Provided that the cell-relaxation does not change the spectrum drastically then this is what you should suspect in the PDOS. Secondly, the PDOS is *exactly* reproducing the bandgab in this calculation. 1) I would highly suggest you to perform cell/coordinate relaxations in one directory, then afterwards perform analysis on the relaxed structure, PDOS, band-structure, optical, etc. 2) Possibly your band-structure coordinates are wrong because when I plot the bandstructure for this structure it does not capture the correct band gab (this *has* to be the problem). 2018-01-31 16:35 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury: > I have just tried to see the variation of TDOS by changing the smearing > parameter. But I could not observe any change in it. > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Suman Chowdhury < > sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is the fdf that I have used... >> >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papior >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Suman, >>> >>> Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. >>> It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. >>> >>> >>> 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : >>> Dear SIESTA User, Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band gap. The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about these kinds of results... -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards Nick >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, >> West Bengal, India.* >> >> >> > > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, > West Bengal, India.* > * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* > > -- Kind regards Nick
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
I have just tried to see the variation of TDOS by changing the smearing parameter. But I could not observe any change in it. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Suman Chowdhurywrote: > This is the fdf that I have used... > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papior > wrote: > >> Dear Suman, >> >> Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. >> It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. >> >> >> 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : >> >>> Dear SIESTA User, >>> >>> Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While >>> plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. >>> However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density >>> of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band >>> gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band gap. >>> The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about these >>> kinds of results... >>> >>> -- >>> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- >>> 79, West Bengal, India.* >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards Nick >> > > > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, > West Bengal, India.* > > > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
This is the fdf that I have used... On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Nick Papiorwrote: > Dear Suman, > > Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. > It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. > > > 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury : > >> Dear SIESTA User, >> >> Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While >> plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. >> However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density >> of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band >> gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band gap. >> The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about these >> kinds of results... >> >> -- >> *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* >> >> >> >> *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, >> West Bengal, India.* >> >> > > > -- > Kind regards Nick > -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* SiC.fdf Description: Binary data
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
Dear Suman, Without data (plots) or fdf file it is very difficult to help you. It could be that your smearing parameter is too large. 2018-01-24 15:13 GMT+01:00 Suman Chowdhury: > Dear SIESTA User, > > Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While > plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. > However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density > of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band > gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band gap. > The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about these > kinds of results... > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, > West Bengal, India.* > * Ph no-+91-9830512232 <+91%2098305%2012232>* > > -- Kind regards Nick
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
For energy gap look at TDOS not PDOS > Dear SIESTA User, > > Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While > plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. > However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density > of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band > gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band > gap. > The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about > these > kinds of results... > > -- > *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* > > > > *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, > West Bengal, India.* > * Ph no-+91-9830512232* > -- Prof. Sushil Auluck Phone:+91-512-6797092/6148 Department of Physics +91-512-6798177(Home) Indian Institute of Technology Cell :+91-9305548667 Kanpur 208016 (UP) Fax :+91-512-6790914 IndiaE-mail:saul...@iitk.ac.in ...:saul...@gmail.com http://www.nplindia.org/prof-sushil-auluck http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/component/content/article/2-uncategorised/124-sushil-auluck http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/People/phy_facvis.html http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/New01/profile_SA.html http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/people/faculty http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/people/faculty/12-people/faculty/profile/88-sushil-auluck ... ~
[SIESTA-L] Band Structure and PDOS results not matching
Dear SIESTA User, Recently I am getting some confusing results by using SIESTA. While plotting a band structure I am getting a band gap which is quite large. However, when I am trying to plot its corresponding total partial density of states (PDOS), I can clearly see that there is no existence of any band gap. But interestingly the component PDOS are giving the required band gap. The problem is with the total PDOS. Do any of you have any idea about these kinds of results... -- *Dr. Suman Chowdhury* *Assistant Professor Dept. of Physics, Bangabasi College Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
Re: [SIESTA-L] band structure
The first thing you have to know is not how SIESTA calculate certain property. The firs thing you have to know is the physical meaning of the property. Then ask about how SIESTA calculate it, or better, read the manual first, search the SIESTA mail list and then ask. Read/search for the following: - Solid State Physics - Semiconductor Physics - Inverse or reciprocal space - Brillouin zone (this will answer your question about "the matrix numbers") []'s, Camps On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 5:02 AM, amrish sharmawrote: > %block BandLines > 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # Begin at L > 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to gamma > 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from gamma to X > 30 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma # 30 points from X to gamma > %endblock BandLines > > > WHAT DOES THIS MATRIX TYPE NUMBERS REPRESENT > EX. 1.0 1.0 1.0 LIKE IN L ETC. > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Nick Papior > wrote: > >> Please read the manual from page 71. >> >> Note this is the manual 4.0 located here: >> https://launchpad.net/siesta/4.0/4.0/+download/siesta.pdf >> >> 2016-08-10 8:35 GMT+02:00 amrish sharma : >> >>> hii all user >>> >>> i want to know how to get band structure plot in siesta ? >>> >>> -- >>> warm regards >>> >>> amrish sharma >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards Nick >> > > > > -- > warm regards > > amrish sharma >
Re: [SIESTA-L] band structure
%block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # Begin at L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from gamma to X 30 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma # 30 points from X to gamma %endblock BandLines WHAT DOES THIS MATRIX TYPE NUMBERS REPRESENT EX. 1.0 1.0 1.0 LIKE IN L ETC. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Nick Papiorwrote: > Please read the manual from page 71. > > Note this is the manual 4.0 located here: > https://launchpad.net/siesta/4.0/4.0/+download/siesta.pdf > > 2016-08-10 8:35 GMT+02:00 amrish sharma : > >> hii all user >> >> i want to know how to get band structure plot in siesta ? >> >> -- >> warm regards >> >> amrish sharma >> > > > > -- > Kind regards Nick > -- warm regards amrish sharma
Re: [SIESTA-L] band structure
Please read the manual from page 71. Note this is the manual 4.0 located here: https://launchpad.net/siesta/4.0/4.0/+download/siesta.pdf 2016-08-10 8:35 GMT+02:00 amrish sharma: > hii all user > > i want to know how to get band structure plot in siesta ? > > -- > warm regards > > amrish sharma > -- Kind regards Nick
[SIESTA-L] band structure
hii all user i want to know how to get band structure plot in siesta ? -- warm regards amrish sharma
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Hi, Yes I have a supercell instead of one unit cell of ZGNR. BW, On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Максим Арсентьевwrote: > so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your system > still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It is > general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your > problem is critical. > > 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > >> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? >> >> On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" wrote: >> >>> Dear siesta users, >>> >>> According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I >>> reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. >>> Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Maryam Jamaati >>> >>> > > > -- > Best wishes, > Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) > Laboratory of research of nanostructures > Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Hi Riya, You can do your own program and generate all the possible structures. Today computers with fast multiprocessors (and graphical cards), lot of Hds space and RAM memory are able to accomplish this task. (Using fragment based drug design I already worked with 5.5 million of structures in a 8-core with 2TB of HD and 16GM of RAM). What about "after" all the structures are generated? Will you do ab initio calculations with all of them? I don't think so. One way to overcome this is to select the "best" structure. To select the "best" of anything you must use a criterion. In this case, the entropy of the system is used. The program ATAT makes use of Monte Carlo to generate it. The other program (USPEX) is specialized in predicting new crystal structures using semi-empirical and ab initio codes using as criterion other properties (entropy, heat of formation, hardness, etc.) []'s, Camps On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Riya Rogerswrote: > Ok so tht means tht checking each config is nt possible but if possible > its a valid method > > On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 pm, "I. Camps" wrote: > >> Take a look here: >> >> http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Engineering/Labs/avdw/atat/ >> >> If you will test all the possible combinations, you will do a massive >> work. >> >> For example, if you have 100 Atmos, and a dropping concentration of 5% >> (replace 5 atoms), you have to explore all the combination: 7.5E7. >> >> With the quase random structures theory, you get the best (must >> representative) structure. >> >> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, 08:54 Максим Арсентьев >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Camps, >>> What do you mean "is generated based in disorder and entropy" pls. give >>> a link. As i know till now to find a place for dopant you should to try all >>> possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. >>> This i know other researchers do, but your route is unknown for me, explain. >>> >>> 2016-07-31 13:30 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >>> Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so your doping percentage is higher On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps" wrote: > Hello, > > If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. > This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that > aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a > bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive > cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" > extra or substituted atoms. > > Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) > for substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One > of them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure > is > generated based in disorder and entropy. > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев > wrote: > >> so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your >> system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It >> is >> general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your >> problem is critical. >> >> 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >> >>> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in >>> vicinity? >>> >>> On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" >>> wrote: >>> Dear siesta users, According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? Kind regards, Maryam Jamaati >> >> >> -- >> Best wishes, >> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >> > -- > > []`s > > Camps > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best wishes, >>> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >>> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >>> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >>> >> -- >> >> []`s >> >> Camps >> >
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Hi Riya and Маxim, In this link you can find a paper about Special Quasirandom Structures theory ( https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13246916_Special_Quasirandom_Structures), also, a Google link ( https://www.google.com.br/search?q=%22Special+Quasirandom+Structure%22=utf-8=utf-8=firefox-b_rd=cr=Fo-eV6dS86nzB6TSqogL ). This theory is used to study alloys and extended to doped/vacancies in crystals. The ATAT program is able, starting from a given primitive cell and specifying the final number of atoms of the supercell and the % of atom substitution/vacancies, to generate the best supercell with the given doping concentration. (This software do many other interesting things!) Other program that is able to generate special qausirandom structures is USPEX (http://uspex.stonybrook.edu/) Both programs generate new structures. []'s, Camps On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Максим Арсентьевwrote: > Hi, Camps, > So ATAT randomly places atoms and approximates? Does it able to create new > structures, or only places atoms to positions (i believe it is not)? > > 2016-07-31 16:59 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > >> Ok so tht means tht checking each config is nt possible but if possible >> its a valid method >> >> On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 pm, "I. Camps" wrote: >> >>> Take a look here: >>> >>> http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Engineering/Labs/avdw/atat/ >>> >>> If you will test all the possible combinations, you will do a massive >>> work. >>> >>> For example, if you have 100 Atmos, and a dropping concentration of 5% >>> (replace 5 atoms), you have to explore all the combination: 7.5E7. >>> >>> With the quase random structures theory, you get the best (must >>> representative) structure. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, 08:54 Максим Арсентьев >>> wrote: >>> Hi, Camps, What do you mean "is generated based in disorder and entropy" pls. give a link. As i know till now to find a place for dopant you should to try all possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. This i know other researchers do, but your route is unknown for me, explain. 2016-07-31 13:30 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so > your doping percentage is higher > > On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive >> cell. This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute >> that aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to >> use a >> bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive >> cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" >> extra or substituted atoms. >> >> Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) >> for substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. >> One >> of them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure >> is >> generated based in disorder and entropy. >> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев >> wrote: >> >>> so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your >>> system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. >>> It is >>> general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your >>> problem is critical. >>> >>> 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >>> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" wrote: > Dear siesta users, > > According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I > reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. > Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? > > Kind regards, > > Maryam Jamaati > > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best wishes, >>> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >>> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >>> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >>> >> -- >> >> []`s >> >> Camps >> > -- Best wishes, Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) Laboratory of research of nanostructures Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >>> -- >>> >>> []`s >>> >>> Camps >>> >> > > > -- > Best wishes, > Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) > Laboratory of research of nanostructures > Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Hi, Camps, So ATAT randomly places atoms and approximates? Does it able to create new structures, or only places atoms to positions (i believe it is not)? 2016-07-31 16:59 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers: > Ok so tht means tht checking each config is nt possible but if possible > its a valid method > > On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 pm, "I. Camps" wrote: > >> Take a look here: >> >> http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Engineering/Labs/avdw/atat/ >> >> If you will test all the possible combinations, you will do a massive >> work. >> >> For example, if you have 100 Atmos, and a dropping concentration of 5% >> (replace 5 atoms), you have to explore all the combination: 7.5E7. >> >> With the quase random structures theory, you get the best (must >> representative) structure. >> >> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, 08:54 Максим Арсентьев >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Camps, >>> What do you mean "is generated based in disorder and entropy" pls. give >>> a link. As i know till now to find a place for dopant you should to try all >>> possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. >>> This i know other researchers do, but your route is unknown for me, explain. >>> >>> 2016-07-31 13:30 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >>> Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so your doping percentage is higher On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps" wrote: > Hello, > > If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. > This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that > aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a > bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive > cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" > extra or substituted atoms. > > Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) > for substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One > of them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure > is > generated based in disorder and entropy. > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев > wrote: > >> so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your >> system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It >> is >> general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your >> problem is critical. >> >> 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >> >>> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in >>> vicinity? >>> >>> On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" >>> wrote: >>> Dear siesta users, According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? Kind regards, Maryam Jamaati >> >> >> -- >> Best wishes, >> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >> > -- > > []`s > > Camps > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best wishes, >>> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >>> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >>> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >>> >> -- >> >> []`s >> >> Camps >> > -- Best wishes, Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) Laboratory of research of nanostructures Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Ok so tht means tht checking each config is nt possible but if possible its a valid method On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 pm, "I. Camps"wrote: > Take a look here: > > http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Engineering/Labs/avdw/atat/ > > If you will test all the possible combinations, you will do a massive work. > > For example, if you have 100 Atmos, and a dropping concentration of 5% > (replace 5 atoms), you have to explore all the combination: 7.5E7. > > With the quase random structures theory, you get the best (must > representative) structure. > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, 08:54 Максим Арсентьев > wrote: > >> Hi, Camps, >> What do you mean "is generated based in disorder and entropy" pls. give >> a link. As i know till now to find a place for dopant you should to try all >> possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. >> This i know other researchers do, but your route is unknown for me, explain. >> >> 2016-07-31 13:30 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >> >>> Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so your >>> doping percentage is higher >>> >>> On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps" wrote: >>> Hello, If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" extra or substituted atoms. Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) for substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One of them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure is generated based in disorder and entropy. On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев wrote: > so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your > system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It > is > general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your > problem is critical. > > 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > >> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? >> >> On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" >> wrote: >> >>> Dear siesta users, >>> >>> According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I >>> reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. >>> Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Maryam Jamaati >>> >>> > > > -- > Best wishes, > Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) > Laboratory of research of nanostructures > Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS > -- []`s Camps >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best wishes, >> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >> > -- > > []`s > > Camps >
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Take a look here: http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Engineering/Labs/avdw/atat/ If you will test all the possible combinations, you will do a massive work. For example, if you have 100 Atmos, and a dropping concentration of 5% (replace 5 atoms), you have to explore all the combination: 7.5E7. With the quase random structures theory, you get the best (must representative) structure. On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, 08:54 Максим Арсентьевwrote: > Hi, Camps, > What do you mean "is generated based in disorder and entropy" pls. give a > link. As i know till now to find a place for dopant you should to try all > possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. > This i know other researchers do, but your route is unknown for me, explain. > > 2016-07-31 13:30 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > >> Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so your >> doping percentage is higher >> >> On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps" wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. >>> This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that >>> aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a >>> bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive >>> cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" >>> extra or substituted atoms. >>> >>> Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) >>> for substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One >>> of them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure is >>> generated based in disorder and entropy. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев >>> wrote: >>> so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It is general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your problem is critical. 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? > > On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" > wrote: > >> Dear siesta users, >> >> According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I >> reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. >> Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Maryam Jamaati >> >> -- Best wishes, Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) Laboratory of research of nanostructures Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >>> -- >>> >>> []`s >>> >>> Camps >>> >> > > > -- > Best wishes, > Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) > Laboratory of research of nanostructures > Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS > -- []`s Camps
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Even according to me you should to try all possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. This is wht is done by researchers. In dft it is assumed tht everything is done at close to absolute temp. So entropy is very less. On 31-Jul-2016 5:25 pm, "Максим Арсентьев"wrote: Hi, Camps, What do you mean "is generated based in disorder and entropy" pls. give a link. As i know till now to find a place for dopant you should to try all possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. This i know other researchers do, but your route is unknown for me, explain. 2016-07-31 13:30 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so your > doping percentage is higher > > On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. >> This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that >> aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a >> bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive >> cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" >> extra or substituted atoms. >> >> Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) for >> substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One of >> them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure is >> generated based in disorder and entropy. >> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев >> wrote: >> >>> so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your >>> system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It is >>> general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your >>> problem is critical. >>> >>> 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >>> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" wrote: > Dear siesta users, > > According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I > reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. > Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? > > Kind regards, > > Maryam Jamaati > > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best wishes, >>> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >>> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >>> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >>> >> -- >> >> []`s >> >> Camps >> > -- Best wishes, Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) Laboratory of research of nanostructures Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Hi, Camps, What do you mean "is generated based in disorder and entropy" pls. give a link. As i know till now to find a place for dopant you should to try all possible combinations and the combination with the lowes energy is correct. This i know other researchers do, but your route is unknown for me, explain. 2016-07-31 13:30 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers: > Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so your > doping percentage is higher > > On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. >> This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that >> aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a >> bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive >> cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" >> extra or substituted atoms. >> >> Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) for >> substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One of >> them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure is >> generated based in disorder and entropy. >> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев >> wrote: >> >>> so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your >>> system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It is >>> general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your >>> problem is critical. >>> >>> 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >>> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" wrote: > Dear siesta users, > > According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I > reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. > Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? > > Kind regards, > > Maryam Jamaati > > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best wishes, >>> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >>> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >>> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >>> >> -- >> >> []`s >> >> Camps >> > -- Best wishes, Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) Laboratory of research of nanostructures Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Primitive means smallest cell possible so it contains few atoms so your doping percentage is higher On 31-Jul-2016 6:16 am, "I. Camps"wrote: > Hello, > > If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. > This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that > aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a > bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive > cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" > extra or substituted atoms. > > Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) for > substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One of > them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure is > generated based in disorder and entropy. > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьев > wrote: > >> so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your >> system still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It is >> general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your >> problem is critical. >> >> 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : >> >>> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? >>> >>> On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" wrote: >>> Dear siesta users, According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? Kind regards, Maryam Jamaati >> >> >> -- >> Best wishes, >> Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) >> Laboratory of research of nanostructures >> Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS >> > -- > > []`s > > Camps >
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Hello, If you use doping, you can not (or should not) use the primitive cell. This is because you will need to select a % of atoms to substitute that aren't enough in the primitive (or minimal) cell, so you have to use a bigger cell (supercell) with greater number of atoms. Using the primitive cell, will generate a crystal not dopped. A dopped crystal has a "few" extra or substituted atoms. Other problem is how will you select the corresponding atom (or site) for substitution. You have to use a theory to help you with this task. One of them is the use of quase random structures where the "best" structure is generated based in disorder and entropy. On Sat, Jul 30, 2016, 17:51 Максим Арсентьевwrote: > so you mean because of doping you have a supercell now? Anyway your system > still have symmmetry - for choosing k - points use this paper. It is > general manner. I did not dealt with supercells but do not think your > problem is critical. > > 2016-07-30 23:00 GMT+04:00 Riya Rogers : > >> Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? >> >> On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati" wrote: >> >>> Dear siesta users, >>> >>> According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I >>> reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. >>> Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Maryam Jamaati >>> >>> > > > -- > Best wishes, > Maxim Arsent'ev, Ph.D. (Chemistry) > Laboratory of research of nanostructures > Institute of Silicate Chemistry of RAS > -- []`s Camps
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Doped means is it replacement of carbon or other molecule in vicinity? On 30-Jul-2016 10:38 pm, "maryam jamaati"wrote: > Dear siesta users, > > According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I reduced > geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. > Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? > > Kind regards, > > Maryam Jamaati > >
[SIESTA-L] Band structure for doped ZGNR
Dear siesta users, According to helpful advices of some friends (Nick, Kamaraj,..), I reduced geometry to unit cell for calculation of ZGNR band structure. Whether we have to use minimal unit cell for doped ZGNR or not? Kind regards, Maryam Jamaati
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure of ZnS
No, the structures are different. I just want to know whether the lattice vectors are for the primitive cell of MgO or for conventional cell? Thanks On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:46 AM, fthe...@iesl.forth.gr wrote: The lattice vectors in Angstrom are 5.40930 0 0 0 5.40930 0 0 0 5.40930 Hi all. I am calculating the band structure of ZnS unit cell. I am following an exercise for MgO given on SIESTA webpage. The attached Image shows the lattice vectors for MgO. Can anybody explain to me in which format the lattice vectors are written here? When I do my calculations for the ZnS, the results look very odd. I am sure that I am writing the lattice vectors wrong. [image: Inline image 3] (Lattice Vectors for MgO) The lattice vectors for ZnS designed in materials studio are: LatticeConstant 5.40930 Ang %block LatticeVectors 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 %endblock LatticeVectors Thanks * Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis Research Associate Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.) Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.) Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece Phone +30 2810 391824 FAX +30 2810 391305 webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak **
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure of ZnS
hi, do ZnS ans MgO have the same structure ? s.auluck Hi all. I am calculating the band structure of ZnS unit cell. I am following an exercise for MgO given on SIESTA webpage. The attached Image shows the lattice vectors for MgO. Can anybody explain to me in which format the lattice vectors are written here? When I do my calculations for the ZnS, the results look very odd. I am sure that I am writing the lattice vectors wrong. [image: Inline image 3] (Lattice Vectors for MgO) The lattice vectors for ZnS designed in materials studio are: LatticeConstant 5.40930 Ang %block LatticeVectors 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 %endblock LatticeVectors Thanks -- Prof. Sushil Auluck Phone:+91-512-6797092/6148 Department of Physics +91-512-6798177(Home) Indian Institute of Technology Cell :+91-9305548667 Kanpur 208016 (UP) Fax :+91-512-6790914 IndiaE-mail:saul...@iitk.ac.in ...:saul...@gmail.com http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/People/phy_facvis.html http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/New01/profile_SA.html http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/people/faculty http://www.iitk.ac.in/phy/index.php/people/faculty/12-people/faculty/profile/88-sushil-auluck ... ~
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure of ZnS
The lattice vectors in Angstrom are 5.40930 0 0 0 5.40930 0 0 0 5.40930 Hi all. I am calculating the band structure of ZnS unit cell. I am following an exercise for MgO given on SIESTA webpage. The attached Image shows the lattice vectors for MgO. Can anybody explain to me in which format the lattice vectors are written here? When I do my calculations for the ZnS, the results look very odd. I am sure that I am writing the lattice vectors wrong. [image: Inline image 3] (Lattice Vectors for MgO) The lattice vectors for ZnS designed in materials studio are: LatticeConstant 5.40930 Ang %block LatticeVectors 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 %endblock LatticeVectors Thanks * Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis Research Associate Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.) Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.) Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece Phone +30 2810 391824 FAX +30 2810 391305 webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak **
[SIESTA-L] Band Structure of ZnS
Hi all. I am calculating the band structure of ZnS unit cell. I am following an exercise for MgO given on SIESTA webpage. The attached Image shows the lattice vectors for MgO. Can anybody explain to me in which format the lattice vectors are written here? When I do my calculations for the ZnS, the results look very odd. I am sure that I am writing the lattice vectors wrong. [image: Inline image 3] (Lattice Vectors for MgO) The lattice vectors for ZnS designed in materials studio are: LatticeConstant 5.40930 Ang %block LatticeVectors 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000 %endblock LatticeVectors Thanks
RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2
Dear Xiaoming, I've read your last e-mail, seen the bands for bulk Mo, and ran out of suggestions. Hopefully other members have already worked on the system and can provide more detailed input. Your structures look quite symmetric already. Best regards, -Salvador From: siesta-l-requ...@uam.es siesta-l-requ...@uam.es on behalf of Xiaoming Wang xw...@rci.rutgers.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 2:49 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2 Dear Salvador, Thanks so much for your advice and comments! I have compared the band structure of bulk Mo from ELK and Siesta with different pseudos (see the attached figure). In the figure, CA_07 is the pseudo from http://charter.cnf.cornell.edu/psp_files/Mo.psfhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__charter.cnf.cornell.edu_psp-5Ffiles_Mo.psfd=AwMFAgc=JL-fUnQvtjNLb7dA39cQUcqmjBVITE8MbOdX7Lx6ge8r=n_Y76F1vumEs9EYNHN2gzA5FD9jzyPhrzl3eOzxCHIQm=8Gk03Ty8ofFbSZtDYEb4s2VF5EJvY-8kxxy1llS4dmks=w_kuCUZlPV9rbDAZtMWyFlmUO_r5Whe6XdxRIpep2Hwe=, CA_12 from http://departments.icmab.es/leem/siesta/Databases/Pseudopotentials/Pseudos_LDA_Abinit/Mo_html/Mo.psfhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__departments.icmab.es_leem_siesta_Databases_Pseudopotentials_Pseudos-5FLDA-5FAbinit_Mo-5Fhtml_Mo.psfd=AwMFAgc=JL-fUnQvtjNLb7dA39cQUcqmjBVITE8MbOdX7Lx6ge8r=n_Y76F1vumEs9EYNHN2gzA5FD9jzyPhrzl3eOzxCHIQm=8Gk03Ty8ofFbSZtDYEb4s2VF5EJvY-8kxxy1llS4dmks=l13_3_Z8CMODgL-L1VeJuQNyR9DZXSLG0eUg7C085_ce=, and I also tried the pseudo by A. Khein and D.C. Allan as you suggested, the result of which is very close to that of CA_12, thus, I don’t show in the Fig. As seen from the Fig, I think both of them are acceptable as for bulk band structure calculations, but there are some discrepancies about the lattice constant. The energy shift of 50 meV was chosen for the calculations, I also tried 10 meV of ES, but nearly no significant change can be found. I didn’t test the bulk Se calculations, as you have done this. The relaxed structure is attached below which is calculated by using CA_07 of Mo pseudo and Se pseudo from Comput. Mater. Sci. , 98 (2015) 372-389, I think it is hexagonal-symmetric, but the K point bands problem still not fixed. And I cannot understand how to re-symmetrize the relaxed structure, can you please explain a little more? By the way, as you mentioned black phosphorus, I also did this kind of calculations before, the problem is not only the gap change with some strain as you said but also there are some split about the bands, it seems that I turned on the SOC during the calculation. Is this also the result of not proper pseudos? Structure of MoSe2: 3.248660546 0.0 0.0 -1.624330273 2.813422563 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.0 3 142 0.4 0.4 0.505632878 234 0.7 0.2 0.632853521 234 0.7 0.2 0.378419220 Best regards, Xiaoming From: siesta-l-requ...@uam.es [mailto:siesta-l-requ...@uam.es] On Behalf Of Salvador Barraza-Lopez Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 10:08 AM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2 Dear Xiaoming, Okay, I see. I have some further comments. You set a relaxation with cell parameters evolving: That setting could be responsible for shifting valleys away from the K-point (this similar to the effect of K-point shifting induced by strain; this has been discussed extensively on other materials with similar structural symmetries and where the K-point is special, such as graphene; this is a known effect). So you want to re-symmetrize the relaxed structure, especially if the lattice vectors change. This may fix the issue near K. In addition, there is no Mo pseudo on the article you mention, only Se. WSe2 is shown as Fig 15 there. Note that there are some discrepancies with VASP results on that Figure, and on the bands for W in Figure 10 there as well, but they are not nearly as dramatic as the ones you show for MoSe2. Once your MoSe2 structures are strictly hexagonal-symmetric and fine, may I suggest that you compare lattice parameters and band structures for bulk Mo with SIESTA and with another code (ELK or Wien2K -all electron codes- could work for this purpose). You may want to do the same for Se (we did this for Se on the paper you mention, and the datasets are attached as a PDF file here: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352340914000353https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sciencedirect.com_science_article_pii_S2352340914000353d=AwMFAgc=JL-fUnQvtjNLb7dA39cQUcqmjBVITE8MbOdX7Lx6ge8r=n_Y76F1vumEs9EYNHN2gzA5FD9jzyPhrzl3eOzxCHIQm=8Gk03Ty8ofFbSZtDYEb4s2VF5EJvY-8kxxy1llS4dmks=Ij4NECQWU-Trdrz4aRYSQCDT_bqt78DrJhnrJkdxwy4e= ; we did not work with Mo though
RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2
Dear Xiaoming, Okay, I see. I have some further comments. You set a relaxation with cell parameters evolving: That setting could be responsible for shifting valleys away from the K-point (this similar to the effect of K-point shifting induced by strain; this has been discussed extensively on other materials with similar structural symmetries and where the K-point is special, such as graphene; this is a known effect). So you want to re-symmetrize the relaxed structure, especially if the lattice vectors change. This may fix the issue near K. In addition, there is no Mo pseudo on the article you mention, only Se. WSe2 is shown as Fig 15 there. Note that there are some discrepancies with VASP results on that Figure, and on the bands for W in Figure 10 there as well, but they are not nearly as dramatic as the ones you show for MoSe2. Once your MoSe2 structures are strictly hexagonal-symmetric and fine, may I suggest that you compare lattice parameters and band structures for bulk Mo with SIESTA and with another code (ELK or Wien2K -all electron codes- could work for this purpose). You may want to do the same for Se (we did this for Se on the paper you mention, and the datasets are attached as a PDF file here: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352340914000353 ; we did not work with Mo though). Here, you have to recall as well that band structures evolve dramatically with strain in 2D materials; so if your lattice constant is 1% off with respect to ELK or Wien2K (ie, your optimal parameters are strained as seen from results using other codes), you may be seeing gap closings as large as 5% with respect to the results of that code as well as other effects in the bands (this is another well-known drastic effect of lattice parameters in 2D; this is especially seen on black phosphorus). So to help with Mo, another pseudo you want to try out is the Troullier-Martins one generated by A. Khein and D.C. Allan: http://www.abinit.org/downloads/psp-links/psp-links/lda_tm For example, the radii in your LDA Mo INP file would have to be: 2.8930462, 3.1973167, and 2.1974630, as found here: ftp://ftp.abinit.org/pub/abinitio/Psps/LDA_TM.psps/42/42mo.pspnc That procedure worked for Pt, but you want to see if it does the job for you. For Mo LDA, these radii currently are 2.75000, 2.89000, and 2.49000, as it can be seen on the INP file that you've used at http://departments.icmab.es/leem/siesta/Databases/Pseudopotentials/Pseudos_LDA_Abinit/Mo_html/Mo.html pg -- file generated from Mo ps file tm2 Mo ca 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 84 50 1.000 0.000#5s 51 0.000 0.000#5p 42 5.000 0.000#4d 43 0.000 0.000#4f 2.75000 2.89000 2.49000 2.49000 0.0 0.0 #23456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 Ruler you can leave the last channel to be 2.49, that f-channel will not change things for you.) For layered materials, we have also noticed some discrepancies between bulk and single-layer results; here is where basis size could also play a role, and hence my previous question. So once again, I would ensure the structure is properly symmetric after relaxation, and I would try to reproduce the properties of bulk Mo first, and then use that pseudo for MoSe2: There is some additional work ahead for you. If the symmetries are correct, then you've got to work with the Mo pseudo; there will probably be no way around it. Hopefully this e-mail sets a solid pathway for you to look at. I will be happy to learn on your progress. Best regards, -Salvador From: siesta-l-requ...@uam.es siesta-l-requ...@uam.es on behalf of Xiaoming Wang xw...@rci.rutgers.edu Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:25 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2 Hi Salvador, Thanks for your reply. Changing the shifts to 0.0 0.0 0.0 actually can’t solve the problem. And I have also checked the basis sizes of SZ, SZP, DZ but not beyond DZP, the ‘non-differential’ point still exists. By the way, I have rechecked the band structure, the ‘non-differential’ points can actually also be observed at M(0.0, 0.5, 0.0) k-point, but not as obvious as that of K(0.333, 0.333, 0.0) point. I havn’t tried the bulk band structure yet. Best regards, Xiaoming From: siesta-l-requ...@uam.es [mailto:siesta-l-requ...@uam.es] On Behalf Of Salvador Barraza-Lopez Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:46 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2 The only thing that is evident to me at this moment is that you are avoiding the K-points in your k-point sampling; as indicated by Marco Verisimo a number of years ago your number of k-points must be a multiple of three, which it is, but the shift by 0.5, 0.5 is driving the sampling away from
RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2
The only thing that is evident to me at this moment is that you are avoiding the K-points in your k-point sampling; as indicated by Marco Verisimo a number of years ago your number of k-points must be a multiple of three, which it is, but the shift by 0.5, 0.5 is driving the sampling away from the K-points and avoiding them... Hopefully bringing the shifts to 0.0 0.0 0.0 solves the differential, or the missing of the K-point on the conduction band. I would work on the Mo pseudo a little more; and have you checked the effect of the basis size as well? Do your pseudos give you a reasonable bulk band structure? Best regards, -Salvador From: siesta-l-requ...@uam.es siesta-l-requ...@uam.es on behalf of Xiaoming Wang xw...@rci.rutgers.edu Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:23 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2 Dear Siesta users, Recently, I’m trying to calculate the band structure of monolayer MoSe2. However, when I plotting the bands, the band curves at K point are not at maximum or minimum, which should be. And there seems a non-differential point at K along the bands. The band structure of MoSe2 is attached, the non-differential point is more obvious at the lowest two bands shown in the Fig. Both LDA and PBE functionals give this strange phenomenon. I have tried to tune many parameters, but failed to get good result. Can anyone help me with the problem? By the way, I have tried pseudopotentials from Siesta website and from http://charter.cnf.cornell.edu/https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__charter.cnf.cornell.edu_d=AwMFAgc=JL-fUnQvtjNLb7dA39cQUcqmjBVITE8MbOdX7Lx6ge8r=n_Y76F1vumEs9EYNHN2gzA5FD9jzyPhrzl3eOzxCHIQm=NaDRSvcZImjiuqSJSGFoSEOGLfumFBd6_fRZa0Hs0Bss=UQq2ZNZfUJL5kmP2F3B0GlcPmhnT4dJuFcGi_NHsl2Qe=, and also used the recently published pps of Comput. Mater. Sci. , 98 (2015) 372-389. I also changed the energshift, meshcutoff, and k point mesh. But none of them can resolve the problem. Below are the input files for relaxation and band structure calculations. Any comment or advice are highly appreciated. fdf for relaxation: # General System Descriptors SystemName mose2 SystemLabel mose2 NumberOfAtoms 3 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 42 Mo 2 34 Se %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel PAO.EnergyShift 50 meV PAO.BasisSize DZP # Structure and K-sampling LatticeConstant 1.00 Ang %block LatticeParameters 3.25 3.25 20.00 90. 90. 120. %endblock LatticeParameters AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional AtomicCoorFormatOut Ang %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.3 0.66670 0.505669950 1 0.7 0.0 0.625537344 2 0.7 0.0 0.385811946 2 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack 12 0 0 0.5 0 12 0 0.5 0 0 1 0.0 %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack # DFT XC.functional LDA XC.authors CA SpinPolarized false MaxSCFIterations200 DM.MixingWeight 0.25 DM.NumberPulay 3 DM.Tolerance1.d-5 MeshCutoff 300 Ry SolutionMethod diagon ElectronicTemperature 300.0 K # MD and Relaxations MD.TypeOfRunCG MD.VariableCell T MD.MaxForceTol 0.01 eV/Ang MD.MaxStressTol 0.1 GPa MD.NumCGsteps 200 MD.MaxCGDispl 0.1 Ang MD.RelaxCellOnlyF %block GeometryConstraints stress 3 4 5 6 %endblock GeometryConstraints # Output options WriteCoorInitialtrue WriteCoorStep true WriteForces true WriteKpointsfalse WriteEigenvaluesfalse WriteKbands false WriteBands false WriteMullikenPop0 WriteWaveFunction false WriteCoorXmol true WriteCoorCerius false WriteMDCoorXmol true WriteMDhistory true WriteMDXmol true WriteDM true fdf for band structure: # General System Descriptors SystemName mose2 SystemLabel mose2 NumberOfAtoms 3 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 42 Mo 2 34 Se %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel PAO.BasisSize DZP PAO.EnergyShift 50 meV # Structure and K-sampling LatticeConstant 1.00 Ang %block LatticeParameters 3.16 3.16 13.00 90. 90. 120. %endblock LatticeParameters AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional AtomicCoorFormatOut Ang %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.3 0.66670 0.505669950 1 0.7 0.0 0.625537344 2 0.7 0.0 0.385811946 2 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack 24 0 0 0.5 0 24 0 0.5 0 0 1 0.0 %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack # DFT XC.functional LDA XC.authors CA SpinPolarized
RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2
Hi Salvador, Thanks for your reply. Changing the shifts to 0.0 0.0 0.0 actually can't solve the problem. And I have also checked the basis sizes of SZ, SZP, DZ but not beyond DZP, the 'non-differential' point still exists. By the way, I have rechecked the band structure, the 'non-differential' points can actually also be observed at M(0.0, 0.5, 0.0) k-point, but not as obvious as that of K(0.333, 0.333, 0.0) point. I havn't tried the bulk band structure yet. Best regards, Xiaoming From: siesta-l-requ...@uam.es [mailto:siesta-l-requ...@uam.es] On Behalf Of Salvador Barraza-Lopez Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:46 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2 The only thing that is evident to me at this moment is that you are avoiding the K-points in your k-point sampling; as indicated by Marco Verisimo a number of years ago your number of k-points must be a multiple of three, which it is, but the shift by 0.5, 0.5 is driving the sampling away from the K-points and avoiding them... Hopefully bringing the shifts to 0.0 0.0 0.0 solves the differential, or the missing of the K-point on the conduction band. I would work on the Mo pseudo a little more; and have you checked the effect of the basis size as well? Do your pseudos give you a reasonable bulk band structure? Best regards, -Salvador _ From: siesta-l-requ...@uam.es mailto:siesta-l-requ...@uam.es siesta-l-requ...@uam.es mailto:siesta-l-requ...@uam.es on behalf of Xiaoming Wang xw...@rci.rutgers.edu mailto:xw...@rci.rutgers.edu Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:23 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es mailto:siesta-l@uam.es Subject: [SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2 Dear Siesta users, Recently, I'm trying to calculate the band structure of monolayer MoSe2. However, when I plotting the bands, the band curves at K point are not at maximum or minimum, which should be. And there seems a non-differential point at K along the bands. The band structure of MoSe2 is attached, the non-differential point is more obvious at the lowest two bands shown in the Fig. Both LDA and PBE functionals give this strange phenomenon. I have tried to tune many parameters, but failed to get good result. Can anyone help me with the problem? By the way, I have tried pseudopotentials from Siesta website and from http://charter.cnf.cornell.edu/ https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__charter.cnf.cornell.edu _d=AwMFAgc=JL-fUnQvtjNLb7dA39cQUcqmjBVITE8MbOdX7Lx6ge8r=n_Y76F1vumEs9EYNH N2gzA5FD9jzyPhrzl3eOzxCHIQm=NaDRSvcZImjiuqSJSGFoSEOGLfumFBd6_fRZa0Hs0Bss=U Qq2ZNZfUJL5kmP2F3B0GlcPmhnT4dJuFcGi_NHsl2Qe= , and also used the recently published pps of Comput. Mater. Sci. , 98 (2015) 372-389. I also changed the energshift, meshcutoff, and k point mesh. But none of them can resolve the problem. Below are the input files for relaxation and band structure calculations. Any comment or advice are highly appreciated. fdf for relaxation: # General System Descriptors SystemName mose2 SystemLabel mose2 NumberOfAtoms 3 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 42 Mo 2 34 Se %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel PAO.EnergyShift 50 meV PAO.BasisSize DZP # Structure and K-sampling LatticeConstant 1.00 Ang %block LatticeParameters 3.25 3.25 20.00 90. 90. 120. %endblock LatticeParameters AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional AtomicCoorFormatOut Ang %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.3 0.66670 0.505669950 1 0.7 0.0 0.625537344 2 0.7 0.0 0.385811946 2 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack 12 0 0 0.5 0 12 0 0.5 0 0 1 0.0 %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack # DFT XC.functional LDA XC.authors CA SpinPolarized false MaxSCFIterations200 DM.MixingWeight 0.25 DM.NumberPulay 3 DM.Tolerance1.d-5 MeshCutoff 300 Ry SolutionMethod diagon ElectronicTemperature 300.0 K # MD and Relaxations MD.TypeOfRunCG MD.VariableCell T MD.MaxForceTol 0.01 eV/Ang MD.MaxStressTol 0.1 GPa MD.NumCGsteps 200 MD.MaxCGDispl 0.1 Ang MD.RelaxCellOnlyF %block GeometryConstraints stress 3 4 5 6 %endblock GeometryConstraints # Output options WriteCoorInitialtrue WriteCoorStep true WriteForces true WriteKpointsfalse WriteEigenvaluesfalse WriteKbands false WriteBands false WriteMullikenPop0 WriteWaveFunction false WriteCoorXmol true WriteCoorCerius false WriteMDCoorXmol true WriteMDhistory true WriteMDXmol true WriteDM true fdf
[SIESTA-L] Band structure of MoSe2
Dear Siesta users, Recently, I'm trying to calculate the band structure of monolayer MoSe2. However, when I plotting the bands, the band curves at K point are not at maximum or minimum, which should be. And there seems a non-differential point at K along the bands. The band structure of MoSe2 is attached, the non-differential point is more obvious at the lowest two bands shown in the Fig. Both LDA and PBE functionals give this strange phenomenon. I have tried to tune many parameters, but failed to get good result. Can anyone help me with the problem? By the way, I have tried pseudopotentials from Siesta website and from http://charter.cnf.cornell.edu/, and also used the recently published pps of Comput. Mater. Sci. , 98 (2015) 372-389. I also changed the energshift, meshcutoff, and k point mesh. But none of them can resolve the problem. Below are the input files for relaxation and band structure calculations. Any comment or advice are highly appreciated. fdf for relaxation: # General System Descriptors SystemName mose2 SystemLabel mose2 NumberOfAtoms 3 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 42 Mo 2 34 Se %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel PAO.EnergyShift 50 meV PAO.BasisSize DZP # Structure and K-sampling LatticeConstant 1.00 Ang %block LatticeParameters 3.25 3.25 20.00 90. 90. 120. %endblock LatticeParameters AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional AtomicCoorFormatOut Ang %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.3 0.66670 0.505669950 1 0.7 0.0 0.625537344 2 0.7 0.0 0.385811946 2 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack 12 0 0 0.5 0 12 0 0.5 0 0 1 0.0 %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack # DFT XC.functional LDA XC.authors CA SpinPolarized false MaxSCFIterations200 DM.MixingWeight 0.25 DM.NumberPulay 3 DM.Tolerance1.d-5 MeshCutoff 300 Ry SolutionMethod diagon ElectronicTemperature 300.0 K # MD and Relaxations MD.TypeOfRunCG MD.VariableCell T MD.MaxForceTol 0.01 eV/Ang MD.MaxStressTol 0.1 GPa MD.NumCGsteps 200 MD.MaxCGDispl 0.1 Ang MD.RelaxCellOnlyF %block GeometryConstraints stress 3 4 5 6 %endblock GeometryConstraints # Output options WriteCoorInitialtrue WriteCoorStep true WriteForces true WriteKpointsfalse WriteEigenvaluesfalse WriteKbands false WriteBands false WriteMullikenPop0 WriteWaveFunction false WriteCoorXmol true WriteCoorCerius false WriteMDCoorXmol true WriteMDhistory true WriteMDXmol true WriteDM true fdf for band structure: # General System Descriptors SystemName mose2 SystemLabel mose2 NumberOfAtoms 3 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 42 Mo 2 34 Se %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel PAO.BasisSize DZP PAO.EnergyShift 50 meV # Structure and K-sampling LatticeConstant 1.00 Ang %block LatticeParameters 3.16 3.16 13.00 90. 90. 120. %endblock LatticeParameters AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional AtomicCoorFormatOut Ang %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.3 0.66670 0.505669950 1 0.7 0.0 0.625537344 2 0.7 0.0 0.385811946 2 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack 24 0 0 0.5 0 24 0 0.5 0 0 1 0.0 %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack # DFT XC.functional LDA XC.authors CA SpinPolarized false MaxSCFIterations200 DM.MixingWeight 0.25 DM.NumberPulay 3 DM.Tolerance1.d-5 MeshCutoff 300 Ry SolutionMethod diagon ElectronicTemperature 300.0 K # Output options WriteCoorInitialtrue WriteCoorStep true WriteForces true WriteKpointsfalse WriteEigenvaluesfalse WriteKbands false WriteBands false WriteMullikenPop0 WriteWaveFunction false WriteCoorXmol true WriteCoorCerius false WriteMDCoorXmol true WriteMDhistory true WriteMDXmol true WriteDM true UseStructFile T BandLinesScale ReciprocalLatticeVectors %block BandLines 1 0. 0. 0. \Gamma 70 0. 0.5000 0. M 40 0. 0. 0. K 80 0. 0. 0. \Gamma %endblock BandLines Best regards, Xiaoming Wang IAMDN,
RE: [SIESTA-L] Band structure calculation
Hi, The band structure of 2x2 supercell is definitely different from that of 1x1 unit cell. In the supercell case, band structure is folded. Please have a look at the article EPL, 107 (2014) 27006 (http://iopscience.iop.org/0295-5075/107/2/27006) Best regards,Bing From: argo.nurbaw...@gmail.com To: siesta-l@uam.es Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:11:57 +0800 Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure calculation Hi Barnali your structures are different from one another. In your unit cell structure C-C bond is 1.56 Ang, while in your 2x2 supercell the C-C bond is 1.42 Ang. You need to relax the structure correctly first (together with the lattice vectors), then the two bands should be the same. Good luck. Argo. On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 15:15 +0530, Barnali Bhattacharya wrote: Dear all, I have calculated the band structure for graphene unit cell containing two atoms which is accurate one. But when I am trying to calculate the band structure of 2*2 graphene super cell the band structure look different . But this should not be expected, because the band structure for unit cell and super cell should be same. Could anybody guide me why I get different band structure for same system (unit cell and supercell)? Could anybody help me to solve this problem? Here I have attached the input file for graphene unit cell and graphene 2*2 super cell for detils information and the jpg file. Thanks in advance, Barnali Bhattacharya, Assam university,India
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure calculation
Hi Barnali your structures are different from one another. In your unit cell structure C-C bond is 1.56 Ang, while in your 2x2 supercell the C-C bond is 1.42 Ang. You need to relax the structure correctly first (together with the lattice vectors), then the two bands should be the same. Good luck. Argo. On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 15:15 +0530, Barnali Bhattacharya wrote: Dear all, I have calculated the band structure for graphene unit cell containing two atoms which is accurate one. But when I am trying to calculate the band structure of 2*2 graphene super cell the band structure look different . But this should not be expected, because the band structure for unit cell and super cell should be same. Could anybody guide me why I get different band structure for same system (unit cell and supercell)? Could anybody help me to solve this problem? Here I have attached the input file for graphene unit cell and graphene 2*2 super cell for detils information and the jpg file. Thanks in advance, Barnali Bhattacharya, Assam university,India
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure - How build the block for the Orthorhombic system?
Hello Guilherme, In general the path is not for your sample. You chose the path depending on the symmetry of your sample. My advises: -) take a look in Solid State Physics books (Kittel: https://archive.org/details/IntroductionToSolidStatePhysics; Aschroft: http://www.amazon.com/Solid-State-Physics-Neil-Ashcroft/dp/0030839939) -) search for papers that do calculations for the same sample/symmetry as yours. In this way you will get a good (already used) path but will continuos without getting the physics behind this type of calculation (electronic band calculation). Regards, Camps On Monday, February 16, 2015, Guilherme Maia Sawyer guisaw...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi Camps, I found other example... but still I couldn't understand exactly this positions... This is for the Silicon %block BandLines 1 1.5 1.5 0.0 K # Begin at K 38 0.0 0.0 0.0 \Gamma # 38 points from K to Gamma 36 0.0 2.0 0.0 X # 36 points from Gamma to X 18 1.0 2.0 0.0 W # 18 points from X to W 26 1.0 1.0 1.0 L # 26 points from W to L 31 0.0 0.0 0.0 \Gamma # 31 points from L to Gamma %endblock BandLines How I can find the best path for my sample?! The only position I understand it's for Gamma... and why this path?... I gave a quick read in the paper that you told me and didn't find... but I'll read again !! Thanks for the help! ___ Guilherme Maia Santos *Se as pessoas são boas só por temerem o castigo e almejarem uma recompensa,* * então realmente somos um grupo muito desprezível.* *(Albert Einstein)* Em Segunda-feira, 16 de Fevereiro de 2015 16:02, I. Camps ica...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ica...@gmail.com'); escreveu: Hello Guilherme, Take a look in this link: en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Brillouin_zone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brillouin_zone This is based in the paper Comp. Mat. Sci. 49 (2) 299-312, DOI: 10.1016/j.commatsci.2010.05.010 Or any good Solid State Book. There is also a server named Bilbao Crystallographic Server: www.cryst.ehu.es Good reading. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, 19:36 Guilherme Maia Sawyer guisaw...@yahoo.com.br javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','guisaw...@yahoo.com.br'); wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to plot Band Structure using the gnuband (Util from Siesta)... But I have one doubt about %block BandLines that we have to write in the .fdf file... According the Siesta Manual, we usually write along the high-symmetry directions... but where I can find it?! In the manual : %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # Begin at L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from gamma to X 30 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma # 30 points from X to gamma %endblock BandLines This is for an FCC lattice... I tried to find this values for this lattice just to understand how build for my system... but nothing... My system it's a Orthorhombic...for this one.. which is the high-symmetry directions?! Thanks! -- []'s, @mps
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure - How build the block for the Orthorhombic system?
Do you know the Space Group of your material? As Camps mentioned in a previous email, the Bilbao Crystallographic Server is a good reference for finding out which high-symmetry points in k-space you'd like to probe to understand the electronic band structure. Note that rather than sampling the entire Brillouin zone, you are looking at the dispersion along high-symmetry paths. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:52 PM, I. Camps ica...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Guilherme, In general the path is not for your sample. You chose the path depending on the symmetry of your sample. My advises: -) take a look in Solid State Physics books (Kittel: https://archive.org/details/IntroductionToSolidStatePhysics; Aschroft: http://www.amazon.com/Solid-State-Physics-Neil-Ashcroft/dp/0030839939) -) search for papers that do calculations for the same sample/symmetry as yours. In this way you will get a good (already used) path but will continuos without getting the physics behind this type of calculation (electronic band calculation). Regards, Camps On Monday, February 16, 2015, Guilherme Maia Sawyer guisaw...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi Camps, I found other example... but still I couldn't understand exactly this positions... This is for the Silicon %block BandLines 1 1.5 1.5 0.0 K # Begin at K 38 0.0 0.0 0.0 \Gamma # 38 points from K to Gamma 36 0.0 2.0 0.0 X # 36 points from Gamma to X 18 1.0 2.0 0.0 W # 18 points from X to W 26 1.0 1.0 1.0 L # 26 points from W to L 31 0.0 0.0 0.0 \Gamma # 31 points from L to Gamma %endblock BandLines How I can find the best path for my sample?! The only position I understand it's for Gamma... and why this path?... I gave a quick read in the paper that you told me and didn't find... but I'll read again !! Thanks for the help! ___ Guilherme Maia Santos *Se as pessoas são boas só por temerem o castigo e almejarem uma recompensa,* * então realmente somos um grupo muito desprezível.* *(Albert Einstein)* Em Segunda-feira, 16 de Fevereiro de 2015 16:02, I. Camps ica...@gmail.com escreveu: Hello Guilherme, Take a look in this link: en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Brillouin_zone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brillouin_zone This is based in the paper Comp. Mat. Sci. 49 (2) 299-312, DOI: 10.1016/j.commatsci.2010.05.010 Or any good Solid State Book. There is also a server named Bilbao Crystallographic Server: www.cryst.ehu.es Good reading. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, 19:36 Guilherme Maia Sawyer guisaw...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to plot Band Structure using the gnuband (Util from Siesta)... But I have one doubt about %block BandLines that we have to write in the .fdf file... According the Siesta Manual, we usually write along the high-symmetry directions... but where I can find it?! In the manual : %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # Begin at L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from gamma to X 30 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma # 30 points from X to gamma %endblock BandLines This is for an FCC lattice... I tried to find this values for this lattice just to understand how build for my system... but nothing... My system it's a Orthorhombic...for this one.. which is the high-symmetry directions?! Thanks! -- []'s, @mps -- *Alexander J. Pak* Graduate Research Assistant - The Hwang Group Department of Chemical Engineering Cockrell School of Engineering The University of Texas at Austin 1 University Station, C0400 Austin, Texas 78712 CPE 4.422 | O: (512) 471-1839 M: (917) 637-0413 | a...@utexas.edu a...@utexas.edu
[SIESTA-L] Band Structure - How build the block for the Orthorhombic system?
Hi all, I'm trying to plot Band Structure using the gnuband (Util from Siesta)... But I have one doubt about %block BandLines that we have to write in the .fdf file... According the Siesta Manual, we usually write along the high-symmetry directions... but where I can find it?! In the manual : %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # Begin at L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from gamma to X 30 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma # 30 points from X to gamma %endblock BandLinesThis is for an FCC lattice... I tried to find this values for this lattice just to understand how build for my system... but nothing...My system it's a Orthorhombic...for this one.. which is the high-symmetry directions?! Thanks!
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure - How build the block for the Orthorhombic system?
Hello Guilherme, Take a look in this link: en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Brillouin_zone This is based in the paper Comp. Mat. Sci. 49 (2) 299-312, DOI: 10.1016/j.commatsci.2010.05.010 Or any good Solid State Book. There is also a server named Bilbao Crystallographic Server: www.cryst.ehu.es Good reading. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, 19:36 Guilherme Maia Sawyer guisaw...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to plot Band Structure using the gnuband (Util from Siesta)... But I have one doubt about %block BandLines that we have to write in the .fdf file... According the Siesta Manual, we usually write along the high-symmetry directions... but where I can find it?! In the manual : %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # Begin at L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from gamma to X 30 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma # 30 points from X to gamma %endblock BandLines This is for an FCC lattice... I tried to find this values for this lattice just to understand how build for my system... but nothing... My system it's a Orthorhombic...for this one.. which is the high-symmetry directions?! Thanks!
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure - How build the block for the Orthorhombic system?
Hi Camps, I found other example... but still I couldn't understand exactly this positions... This is for the Silicon%block BandLines 1 1.5 1.5 0.0 K # Begin at K 38 0.0 0.0 0.0 \Gamma # 38 points from K to Gamma 36 0.0 2.0 0.0 X # 36 points from Gamma to X 18 1.0 2.0 0.0 W # 18 points from X to W 26 1.0 1.0 1.0 L # 26 points from W to L 31 0.0 0.0 0.0 \Gamma # 31 points from L to Gamma %endblock BandLinesHow I can find the best path for my sample?! The only position I understand it's for Gamma... and why this path?... I gave a quick read in the paper that you told me and didn't find... but I'll read again !! Thanks for the help! ___Guilherme Maia Santos Se as pessoas são boas só por temerem o castigo e almejarem uma recompensa, então realmente somos um grupo muito desprezível.(Albert Einstein) Em Segunda-feira, 16 de Fevereiro de 2015 16:02, I. Camps ica...@gmail.com escreveu: Hello Guilherme,Take a look in this link: en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Brillouin_zoneThis is based in the paper Comp. Mat. Sci. 49 (2) 299-312, DOI: 10.1016/j.commatsci.2010.05.010Or any good Solid State Book.There is also a server named Bilbao Crystallographic Server: www.cryst.ehu.es Good reading. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, 19:36 Guilherme Maia Sawyer guisaw...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to plot Band Structure using the gnuband (Util from Siesta)... But I have one doubt about %block BandLines that we have to write in the .fdf file... According the Siesta Manual, we usually write along the high-symmetry directions... but where I can find it?! In the manual : %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # Begin at L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from gamma to X 30 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma # 30 points from X to gamma %endblock BandLinesThis is for an FCC lattice... I tried to find this values for this lattice just to understand how build for my system... but nothing...My system it's a Orthorhombic...for this one.. which is the high-symmetry directions?! Thanks!
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure of Supercell
Hello, Can any one explain me how to plot the band structure of 2x2x1 supercell of graphene. I am able to do it for 1x1x1 and I have the Dirac cone, but I dont see the band strucrure when I use 2x2x1 supercell. Can some one help me and share an example .fdf file to show how to have the same band structure when we 1x1x1 and 2x2x1 supercells. Thank you in adavance. Mic On Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:51 PM, Suman Chowdhury sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, How can I get a good band structure when my unit cell is large? -- Junior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India. Ph no-+91-9830512232
[SIESTA-L] Band Structure
Dear all, How can I get a good band structure when my unit cell is large? -- *Junior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure
WriteBands T On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Suman Chowdhury sumanchowdhur...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, To plot the band structure which is to be set true, WriteBands or WriteKBands or both. -- *Junior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
[SIESTA-L] Band Structure
Dear all, To plot the band structure which is to be set true, WriteBands or WriteKBands or both. -- *Junior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.* * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
[SIESTA-L] band structure vs cell size
Hi, I'm using Siesta to calculate band structure of bulk gold. It's expected to find one relative band gap (in which fermi level lies. PS: this gap supports an occupied Shockley surface state) along GL line (corresponding to [111] direction) in reciprocal space. I did find one when setting the cell size to 1x1x1 (primitive cell containing only one atom), but failed when setting cell size to 2x2x2 (primitive cell containing 8 atoms), see the attachment for detail. I don't quite understand why the relative gap vanish near fermi level, one consequence of which seems to be the disappearance of the previously-mentioned Shockley surface state. Can anyone explain this?
Re: [SIESTA-L] band structure vs cell size
Hi, In 2x2x2 cell, the band folding effects in a Brillouin Zone plays a role on the arrangement of band structure due to increased cell sizes...this may give clue to explain the absent of gap in 2x2x2 cell venkatesh. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Huang Bing hbdft2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using Siesta to calculate band structure of bulk gold. It's expected to find one relative band gap (in which fermi level lies. PS: this gap supports an occupied Shockley surface state) along GL line (corresponding to [111] direction) in reciprocal space. I did find one when setting the cell size to 1x1x1 (primitive cell containing only one atom), but failed when setting cell size to 2x2x2 (primitive cell containing 8 atoms), see the attachment for detail. I don't quite understand why the relative gap vanish near fermi level, one consequence of which seems to be the disappearance of the previously-mentioned Shockley surface state. Can anyone explain this? -- Ch. Venkatesh, C/o. Prof. V. Srinivas, Department of Physics Meteorology, IIT Kharagpur. ph: +919445909693
Re: [SIESTA-L] band structure vs cell size
Hi, venkatesh Thanks for your immediate reply. Imagine sending an electron with energy within the gap (in the case of 1x1x1 primitive cell) from vacuum towards the Au(111) surface (this surface is perpendicular to [111] direction), the electron cannot propagate inside the crystal and must be reflected backwards. Further, if the energy of incoming electron is below the vacuum level (i.e., work function), the electron cannot escape and is therefore confined. Now if we switch to the case of 2x2x2 primitive cell, then we get the opposite conclusion: the electron won't be confined! I suppose this is apparently not the case. On 09/07/2013 09:53 PM, venkatesh chandragiri wrote: Hi, In 2x2x2 cell, the band folding effects in a Brillouin Zone plays a role on the arrangement of band structure due to increased cell sizes...this may give clue to explain the absent of gap in 2x2x2 cell venkatesh. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Huang Bing hbdft2...@gmail.com mailto:hbdft2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using Siesta to calculate band structure of bulk gold. It's expected to find one relative band gap (in which fermi level lies. PS: this gap supports an occupied Shockley surface state) along GL line (corresponding to [111] direction) in reciprocal space. I did find one when setting the cell size to 1x1x1 (primitive cell containing only one atom), but failed when setting cell size to 2x2x2 (primitive cell containing 8 atoms), see the attachment for detail. I don't quite understand why the relative gap vanish near fermi level, one consequence of which seems to be the disappearance of the previously-mentioned Shockley surface state. Can anyone explain this? -- Ch. Venkatesh, C/o. Prof. V. Srinivas, Department of Physics Meteorology, IIT Kharagpur. ph: +919445909693
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure and Fermi velocity
Hello, I have some basic questions about the band structure, e.g., graphene. Plz, see the attached input file (.fdf) and the .bands file generated by siesta. The dispersion agrees with the previous work. Now I want to calculate the Fermi velcity of Dirac electrons. I can see a linear dispersion around K. 1. How can I use the .bnds file to calculte the Fermi velocoity. Plz, use the attached file and explain me. I never did it and its very crucial, minor mistake can give me very bad result 2. When I use a big supercell then the band structure of this supercell is different from the promitive graphene. How can I reproduce the band structure of primitive form the supercell. In principle the band structures should be the same except the number of bands. Regards, Mic From: I. Camps ica...@gmail.com To: somayeh fotohi somayehfot...@yahoo.com; siesta-l@uam.es siesta-l@uam.es Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] systemlable.band.up and systemlable.band.down Dear Somayeh, Attached is a modified version of gnubands program (I called gnuband_spin). It is capable to produce two separate files for the spin up/down bands. Usage: ./gnubands_spin input_file output_up output_down, were: input_file: is you band file output_up: is the desired name for the file with the bands for the spin up configuration output_down: is the desired name for the file with the bands for the spin down configuration What I did was to duplicate the code in the original gnuband: the first part save the UP configuration, and the second w«one, save the DOWN configuration. Good luck! On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:54 AM, somayeh fotohi somayehfot...@yahoo.com wrote: Somayeh []'s, @mps
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure Results
And another things that I want to ask is, how to label the x-axis so that we get the symmetry label on that (ex. Gamma, M, K etc.) I think they are not automatically produced by the Gnubands script, but knowing where they are on the abscissa axis (that's you who defined the number of k-points between the symmetric corner points, right?), you can hopefully add them by hand in your favourite plotting routine. Dear Yuly, a correction to this: I think, the last lines in the .bands file give the direct placement of labels along the abscissa axis of the plot. So in the worst case you just add them by hand at the specified points. Best regards Andrei Postnikov
[SIESTA-L] Band Structure Results
Hallo SIESTA users! I have run my fdf to get the band structure for graphene and TIO2 Rutile. I have made the visualization using gnubands and gnuplot. But then, I got soo many lines. Can anyone informs me why it can be happened? is there any mistake? I trie to attach that picture, but it is difficult. And another things that I want to ask is, how to label the x-axis so that we get the symmetry label on that (ex. Gamma, M, K etc.) I have attached the file of bands structure visualization and here the K-point for graphene %block Bandlines 1 -0.500 0.000 0.000 M 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma 25 0.3329 -0.6658 0.000 K %endblock BandLines while for tio2 (rutile, space group 136) %block Bandlines 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma 20 0.000 0.500 0.000 X 25 0.000 0.500 0.500 R 20 0.000 0.000 0.500 Z 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma 20 0.500 0.500 0.000 M 25 0.500 0.500 0.500 A 20 0.000 0.000 0.500 Z %endblock BandLines Thank you, Best Regards Yuly Kusumawati Laboratory of Computational Chemistry Institut Teknologi Bandung (ITB) -- http://www.its.ac.id
[SIESTA-L] Band Structure
Hello, I'm sorry if this is a repeat question but I went through the forums and none of the solutions worked. I am trying to calculate the band structure of Adamantane and it just gives me lots of straight lines. I've correctly checked the structure and DOS from it. My fdf file is below. If someone could please have a look at it, and advice on how to get the correct dispersive band structure, it would be really a great help. Thanks! Pranjal Bordia Physics Ph.D. Stanford University # - # FDF for Adamantane # - SystemName ada SystemLabel ada NumberOfAtoms 26 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 6 C 2 1 H %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel LatticeConstant 9.42 Ang %block LatticeVectors 0.500 0.500 0.000 0.500 0.000 0.500 0.500 0.500 0.000 %endblock LatticeVectors AtomicCoordinatesFormat ScaledCartesian %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.000 0.000 0.0001 C 0.000 0.163 0.0001 C 0.132 0.216 0.0771 C 0.265 0.163 0.0001 C 0.265 0.000 0.0001 C 0.132 -0.053 -0.0771 C 0.000 -0.053 0.1531 C 0.132 0.000 0.2311 C 0.265 -0.053 0.1531 C 0.132 0.163 0.2321 C 0.265 -0.170 0.1532 H 0.361 -0.015 0.2102 H 0.038 0.200 0.2882 H -0.095 -0.038 -0.0562 H 0.000 0.200 -0.1112 H -0.094 0.200 0.0602 H 0.132 0.332 0.0772 H 0.360 0.200 0.0562 H 0.265 0.200 -0.1102 H 0.360 -0.038 -0.0562 H 0.132 -0.170 -0.0782 H 0.132 -0.015 -0.1852 H 0.000 -0.170 0.1532 H -0.094 -0.015 0.2092 H 0.132 -0.038 0.3312 H 0.221 0.200 0.2882 H %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies # SCF options MaxSCFIterations 20 # Maximum number of SCF iter DM.MixingWeight 0.1 # New DM amount for next SCF cycle DM.Tolerance 1.d-3 # Tolerance in maximum difference # between input and output DM DM.UseSaveDM true # to use continuation filesB SolutionMethoddiagon# OrderN or Diagon ElectronicTemperature 25 meV # Temp. for Fermi smearing XC.authors CA# Parametrization fos xc MeshCutoff 150. Ry# Mesh cutoff. real space mesh KgridCutoff 15. Ang WriteEigenvalues.true. WriteKbands .true. WriteBands .true. %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L# 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X# 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U# 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # %endblock BandLines %block WaveFuncKPoints # Weights of orbitals for bands in k-point 0.000 0.000 0.000 from 1 to 20 # k-point, and bands required. %endblock WaveFuncKPoints
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure
latticevectors are wrong. try to use smaller kgrid_cutoff than lattice constant or to use kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack instead. good luck! From: Pranjal Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:16 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure Hello, I'm sorry if this is a repeat question but I went through the forums and none of the solutions worked. I am trying to calculate the band structure of Adamantane and it just gives me lots of straight lines. I've correctly checked the structure and DOS from it. My fdf file is below. If someone could please have a look at it, and advice on how to get the correct dispersive band structure, it would be really a great help. Thanks! Pranjal Bordia Physics Ph.D. Stanford University # - # FDF for Adamantane # - SystemName ada SystemLabel ada NumberOfAtoms 26 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 6 C 2 1 H %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel LatticeConstant 9.42 Ang %block LatticeVectors 0.500 0.500 0.000 0.500 0.000 0.500 0.500 0.500 0.000 %endblock LatticeVectors AtomicCoordinatesFormat ScaledCartesian %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.000 0.000 0.0001 C 0.000 0.163 0.0001 C 0.132 0.216 0.0771 C 0.265 0.163 0.0001 C 0.265 0.000 0.0001 C 0.132 -0.053 -0.0771 C 0.000 -0.053 0.1531 C 0.132 0.000 0.2311 C 0.265 -0.053 0.1531 C 0.132 0.163 0.2321 C 0.265 -0.170 0.1532 H 0.361 -0.015 0.2102 H 0.038 0.200 0.2882 H -0.095 -0.038 -0.0562 H 0.000 0.200 -0.1112 H -0.094 0.200 0.0602 H 0.132 0.332 0.0772 H 0.360 0.200 0.0562 H 0.265 0.200 -0.1102 H 0.360 -0.038 -0.0562 H 0.132 -0.170 -0.0782 H 0.132 -0.015 -0.1852 H 0.000 -0.170 0.1532 H -0.094 -0.015 0.2092 H 0.132 -0.038 0.3312 H 0.221 0.200 0.2882 H %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies # SCF options MaxSCFIterations 20 # Maximum number of SCF iter DM.MixingWeight 0.1 # New DM amount for next SCF cycle DM.Tolerance 1.d-3 # Tolerance in maximum difference # between input and output DM DM.UseSaveDM true # to use continuation filesB SolutionMethoddiagon# OrderN or Diagon ElectronicTemperature 25 meV # Temp. for Fermi smearing XC.authors CA# Parametrization fos xc MeshCutoff 150. Ry# Mesh cutoff. real space mesh KgridCutoff 15. Ang WriteEigenvalues.true. WriteKbands .true. WriteBands .true. %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L# 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X# 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U# 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # %endblock BandLines %block WaveFuncKPoints # Weights of orbitals for bands in k-point 0.000 0.000 0.000 from 1 to 20 # k-point, and bands required. %endblock WaveFuncKPoints
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure
hi can you send the file by name ada.XV for me. thanks From: Peter Wang yunpengw...@live.com To: siesta-l@uam.es Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure latticevectors are wrong. try to use smaller kgrid_cutoff than lattice constant or to use kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack instead. good luck! From: Pranjal Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:16 PM To: siesta-l@uam.es Subject: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure Hello, I'm sorry if this is a repeat question but I went through the forums and none of the solutions worked. I am trying to calculate the band structure of Adamantane and it just gives me lots of straight lines. I've correctly checked the structure and DOS from it. My fdf file is below. If someone could please have a look at it, and advice on how to get the correct dispersive band structure, it would be really a great help. Thanks! Pranjal Bordia Physics Ph.D. Stanford University # - # FDF for Adamantane # - SystemName ada SystemLabel ada NumberOfAtoms 26 NumberOfSpecies 2 %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel 1 6 C 2 1 H %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel LatticeConstant 9.42 Ang %block LatticeVectors 0.500 0.500 0.000 0.500 0.000 0.500 0.500 0.500 0.000 %endblock LatticeVectors AtomicCoordinatesFormat ScaledCartesian %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.000 0.000 0.000 1 C 0.000 0.163 0.000 1 C 0.132 0.216 0.077 1 C 0.265 0.163 0.000 1 C 0.265 0.000 0.000 1 C 0.132 -0.053 -0.077 1 C 0.000 -0.053 0.153 1 C 0.132 0.000 0.231 1 C 0.265 -0.053 0.153 1 C 0.132 0.163 0.232 1 C 0.265 -0.170 0.153 2 H 0.361 -0.015 0.210 2 H 0.038 0.200 0.288 2 H -0.095 -0.038 -0.056 2 H 0.000 0.200 -0.111 2 H -0.094 0.200 0.060 2 H 0.132 0.332 0.077 2 H 0.360 0.200 0.056 2 H 0.265 0.200 -0.110 2 H 0.360 -0.038 -0.056 2 H 0.132 -0.170 -0.078 2 H 0.132 -0.015 -0.185 2 H 0.000 -0.170 0.153 2 H -0.094 -0.015 0.209 2 H 0.132 -0.038 0.331 2 H 0.221 0.200 0.288 2 H %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies # SCF options MaxSCFIterations 20 # Maximum number of SCF iter DM.MixingWeight 0.1 # New DM amount for next SCF cycle DM.Tolerance 1.d-3 # Tolerance in maximum difference # between input and output DM DM.UseSaveDM true # to use continuation filesB SolutionMethod diagon # OrderN or Diagon ElectronicTemperature 25 meV # Temp. for Fermi smearing XC.authors CA # Parametrization fos xc MeshCutoff 150. Ry # Mesh cutoff. real space mesh KgridCutoff 15. Ang WriteEigenvalues .true. WriteKbands .true. WriteBands .true. %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U # 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # %endblock BandLines %block WaveFuncKPoints # Weights of orbitals for bands in k-point 0.000 0.000 0.000 from 1 to 20 # k-point, and bands required. %endblock WaveFuncKPoints
[SIESTA-L] Band-Structure Analysis
Dear Siesta users, I am new in using SIESTA. I want to know about Band-structure analysis. 1. What are the script that we have to write in fdf file to get the band-structure? If I am not mistaken (in user's guide Siesta 3.1) we have to set: - WriteBands true - BandlinesScale - Write block Bandlines - write BandPoints Are there anythings we have to write? 2. A don't understand about block BandLines and BandPoints, for example, in user's giude written: %block Bandlines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 20 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma %endblock BandLines Would you mind to explain me what's the meaning that. I mean what's the meening in first colom. Colom 2 to 4 I think the cartesian coordinate, is that right? but can anyone explain more detail about this. And so do the BandPoints, I don't understand too about the number that is written in %block BandPoints. Where is I get that number (for % block BandLines and %block BandPoints). Thank you for your explanation. Best Regards Yuly Kusumawati Laboratory Computational Chemistry-Institute Technology of Bandung (ITB) Indonesia. -- http://www.its.ac.id
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band-Structure Analysis
Hi, 1, The scripts are available at siesta-l blog. I can send you .fdf files containing the band structure script as i have archive as well. 2, First column shows the number of sampling points, 2nd-4th column: crystalline directions, 5th column rep. the crystalline directions names in a unit cell. Dr Ghous B Narejo, Associate Prof., El Engg, NED University, Karachi, Pak. Dear Siesta users, I am new in using SIESTA. I want to know about Band-structure analysis. 1. What are the script that we have to write in fdf file to get the %20band-structure? If I am not mistaken (in user's guide Siesta 3.1) we have to set: - WriteBands true - BandlinesScale - Write block Bandlines - write BandPoints Are there anythings we have to write? 2. A don't understand about block BandLines and BandPoints, for example, in user's giude written: %block Bandlines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma 25 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 20 2.000 2.000 2.000 \Gamma %endblock BandLines Would you mind to explain me what's the meaning that. I mean what's the meening in first colom. Colom 2 to 4 I think the cartesian coordinate, is that right? but can anyone explain more detail about this. And so do the BandPoints, I don't understand too about the number that is written in %block BandPoints. Where is I get that number (for % block BandLines and %block BandPoints). Thank you for your explanation. Best Regards Yuly Kusumawati Laboratory Computational Chemistry-Institute Technology of Bandung (ITB) Indonesia. -- http://www.its.ac.id
[SIESTA-L] Band structure and non-collinear-spin calculation
Hello,all. I want to calculate band structure of a system with non-collinear-spin calculation. But, when I specify options NonCollinear True and %block BandLines ... , then the task crashes after finishing SCF loop. If I remove %block BandLines ..., then task goes normally. I would like to know what is going on?
[SIESTA-L] band structure
I have performed Spin Polarized calculations. I would like to know how can I turn on spin down calculations in the file *.bands Thanks in advance Magda
Re: [SIESTA-L] band structure
Hi Magda, For a given k-point, the bands file will have spin up and spin down entries if the run was spin-polarized. To see where the spin down entries start, look for a sudden jump in the eigenvalues (ie, from large positive values back to negative ones) right at the middle of the dataset for any k-point. Best regards, -Salvador. - Original Message - From: Magdalena Birowska magda.birow...@gmail.com To: siesta-l@uam.es Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:26:53 AM Subject: [SIESTA-L] band structure I have performed Spin Polarized calculations. I would like to know how can I turn on spin down calculations in the file *.bands Thanks in advance Magda -- Salvador Barraza-Lopez Postdoctoral Fellow School of Physics The Georgia Institute of Technology Office N205 837 State Street Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0430 U.S.A Tel: (404) 894-0892 Fax: (404) 894-9958
Re : [SIESTA-L] band structure
the first indicated is spin up both in .bands and .EIG slimane, --- En date de : Dim 2.1.11, Juliana Morbec jmor...@yahoo.com.br a écrit : De: Juliana Morbec jmor...@yahoo.com.br Objet: [SIESTA-L] band structure À: siesta-l@uam.es Date: Dimanche 2 janvier 2011, 20h31 Dear Siesta users, I have performed spin polarized calculations, and now, I would like to know if there is a order of the spin channels (spin up and spin down) in the file.bands. Please, what is listed first: spin up or spin down? Thanks in advance! Juliana M. Morbec -- Prof. Dr. Juliana M. Morbec Theoretical Condensed Matter Physics Universidade Federal de Alfenas (Federal University of Alfenas - Brazil) Tel: ++ 55 35 3299 1459 Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/jmorbec --
[SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell
Hi there siesters, I ran into a very basic problem. I'm trying to calculate the bandstructure of a slab. For that matter I an illustrate my problem on 2x2 graphene unit cell. The \Gamma point of the 2x2 cell gives wrong eigenvalues compared to the 1x1 cell (a factor of ~4!!) . Is there a rigid shift of the BZ center ? Here are the lattice vectors/atom position blocks for the 2x2 cell. for the primitive cell atom position is 0,0,0.5; 1/3,1/3,0.5 and the lattice parameter reduced by half. Thanks, -D. LatticeConstant 4.9200 Ang %block LatticeVectors 0.5 0.866025404 0.0 -0.5 0.866025404 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 %endblock LatticeVectors AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.0 0.0 0.500 1 0.1 0.1 0.500 1 0.0 0.5 0.500 1 0.1 0.6 0.500 1 0.5 0.0 0.500 1 0.6 0.1 0.500 1 0.5 0.5 0.500 1 0.6 0.6 0.500 1 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies BandLinesScale ReciprocalLatticeVectors %block BandLines 1 0.000 0.000 0.00 \Gamma %endblock BandLines
Re: [SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell
Dear Doron Remember when you´re working with supercells the 1st Brillouin zone become altered, particularlly reduced. So the orignal band structure, based on the original 1st BZ, is then folding in the new one. So, what you are seeing is a mixture of bandlines. In particular for graphene 2x2 supercell diract point is still present at (1/3, 1/3, 0), but you can check how Dirac point moves into Gamma point when supercells are multiple of three (eg: 3x3 and, 6x6 supercells). Best regards Ricardo - Dr. Ricardo Faccio Prof. Adjunto de Física Mail: Cryssmat-Lab., Cátedra de Física, DETEMA Facultad de Química, Universidad de la República Av. Gral. Flores 2124, C.C. 1157 C.P. 11800, Montevideo, Uruguay. E-mail: rfac...@fq.edu.uy Phone: 598 2 924 98 59 598 2 929 06 48 Fax:598 2 9241906 Web: http://cryssmat.fq.edu.uy/ricardo/ricardo.htm - - Original Message - From: Doron Naveh na...@cmu.edu To: siesta-l@uam.es Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: [SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell Hi there siesters, I ran into a very basic problem. I'm trying to calculate the bandstructure of a slab. For that matter I an illustrate my problem on 2x2 graphene unit cell. The \Gamma point of the 2x2 cell gives wrong eigenvalues compared to the 1x1 cell (a factor of ~4!!) . Is there a rigid shift of the BZ center ? Here are the lattice vectors/atom position blocks for the 2x2 cell. for the primitive cell atom position is 0,0,0.5; 1/3,1/3,0.5 and the lattice parameter reduced by half. Thanks, -D. LatticeConstant 4.9200 Ang %block LatticeVectors 0.5 0.866025404 0.0 -0.5 0.866025404 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 %endblock LatticeVectors AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.0 0.0 0.500 1 0.1 0.1 0.500 1 0.0 0.5 0.500 1 0.1 0.6 0.500 1 0.5 0.0 0.500 1 0.6 0.1 0.500 1 0.5 0.5 0.500 1 0.6 0.6 0.500 1 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies BandLinesScale ReciprocalLatticeVectors %block BandLines 1 0.000 0.000 0.00 \Gamma %endblock BandLines
Re: [SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell
The band gap at \Gamma decreases dramatically (factor of ~ 4) when I use the 2x2 cell. Since the \Gamma point is not subjected to folding issues, is it possible that there is a bug that translate the BZ center? Dear Doron, the Gamma point is not affected by folding, true, so that its corresponding band energies must rest in place, but the bands from other k-points get folded and come into the Gamma of your supercell Best regards Andrei Postnikov Thanks, -D. On 5/4/2010 3:47 PM, Ricardo Faccio wrote: Dear Doron Remember when you´re working with supercells the 1st Brillouin zone become altered, particularlly reduced. So the orignal band structure, based on the original 1st BZ, is then folding in the new one. So, what you are seeing is a mixture of bandlines. In particular for graphene 2x2 supercell diract point is still present at (1/3, 1/3, 0), but you can check how Dirac point moves into Gamma point when supercells are multiple of three (eg: 3x3 and, 6x6 supercells). Best regards Ricardo - Dr. Ricardo Faccio Prof. Adjunto de Física Mail: Cryssmat-Lab., Cátedra de Física, DETEMA Facultad de Química, Universidad de la República Av. Gral. Flores 2124, C.C. 1157 C.P. 11800, Montevideo, Uruguay. E-mail: rfac...@fq.edu.uy Phone: 598 2 924 98 59 598 2 929 06 48 Fax:598 2 9241906 Web: http://cryssmat.fq.edu.uy/ricardo/ricardo.htm - - Original Message - From: Doron Naveh na...@cmu.edu To: siesta-l@uam.es Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: [SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell Hi there siesters, I ran into a very basic problem. I'm trying to calculate the bandstructure of a slab. For that matter I an illustrate my problem on 2x2 graphene unit cell. The \Gamma point of the 2x2 cell gives wrong eigenvalues compared to the 1x1 cell (a factor of ~4!!) . Is there a rigid shift of the BZ center ? Here are the lattice vectors/atom position blocks for the 2x2 cell. for the primitive cell atom position is 0,0,0.5; 1/3,1/3,0.5 and the lattice parameter reduced by half. Thanks, -D. LatticeConstant 4.9200 Ang %block LatticeVectors 0.5 0.866025404 0.0 -0.5 0.866025404 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 %endblock LatticeVectors AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies 0.0 0.0 0.500 1 0.1 0.1 0.500 1 0.0 0.5 0.500 1 0.1 0.6 0.500 1 0.5 0.0 0.500 1 0.6 0.1 0.500 1 0.5 0.5 0.500 1 0.6 0.6 0.500 1 %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies BandLinesScale ReciprocalLatticeVectors %block BandLines 1 0.000 0.000 0.00 \Gamma %endblock BandLines
Re: [SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell
Dear Andrei Ricardo, Thanks for your response. When using a say 2x2 supercell the only thing that suppose to change is the level of degeneracy. Take the following argument : if the band lines are changed for a double cell, than one needs to converge the number of unit cells to get the right band structure. this is of course untrue and a Si crystal, say, would still have the same bandstructure if we double the number of atoms in the unit cell by taking a 2x1 super-cell. Therefore, the bandstructure of 2x2 graphene cell should look exactly the same as a 1x1 cell, given that the high symmetry points are scaled to the size of the BZ of a supercell. Since \Gamma point is not subjected to any scaling issues, the eigenvalues at this point of BZ should remain the same and only the degeneracy should increase. Cheers, Doron. On 5/4/2010 5:09 PM, Doron Naveh wrote: Dear Ricardo, Thank you! Actually, I get exactly the same results so the problem lies in understanding these results. I checked only the difference between highest occupied eigenvalue and lowest unoccupied one. Thanks very much to you and to Andrei P. - and sorry for the sloppiness.. BTW, my parents didn't have the periodic table on their mined when they named me ... :-) Cheers, Doron. On 5/4/2010 4:51 PM, Ricardo Faccio wrote: Dear Boron Pure graphene has no gap, maybe you're referring to the difference between eigenvalues for particular points in the 1BZ. I'm sending some results for graphene 1x1 and supercell 2x2 (path:/gamma, M, K, /gamma). Take a look at /Gamma, where eigenvalues at -3.2 eV and -7.3 eV keep their energy position. The others correspond to the folding into gamma as was commented by Andrei P. Maybe there are some issues with you convergence. What parameters did you use? Regards Ricardo - Dr. Ricardo Faccio Prof. Adjunto de Física Mail: Cryssmat-Lab., Cátedra de Física, DETEMA Facultad de Química, Universidad de la República Av. Gral. Flores 2124, C.C. 1157 C.P. 11800, Montevideo, Uruguay. E-mail: rfac...@fq.edu.uy Phone: 598 2 924 98 59 598 2 929 06 48 Fax:598 2 9241906 Web: http://cryssmat.fq.edu.uy/ricardo/ricardo.htm - - Original Message - From: Doron Naveh na...@cmu.edu To: siesta-l@uam.es Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell Hi Ricardo, Thanks for the prompt response. I know about the BZ folding, this is the reason why I took the BZ center as an example to make my point. The band gap at \Gamma decreases dramatically (factor of ~ 4) when I use the 2x2 cell. Since the \Gamma point is not subjected to folding issues, is it possible that there is a bug that translate the BZ center? Thanks, -D. On 5/4/2010 3:47 PM, Ricardo Faccio wrote: Dear Doron Remember when you´re working with supercells the 1st Brillouin zone become altered, particularlly reduced. So the orignal band structure, based on the original 1st BZ, is then folding in the new one. So, what you are seeing is a mixture of bandlines. In particular for graphene 2x2 supercell diract point is still present at (1/3, 1/3, 0), but you can check how Dirac point moves into Gamma point when supercells are multiple of three (eg: 3x3 and, 6x6 supercells). Best regards Ricardo - Dr. Ricardo Faccio Prof. Adjunto de Física Mail: Cryssmat-Lab., Cátedra de Física, DETEMA Facultad de Química, Universidad de la República Av. Gral. Flores 2124, C.C. 1157 C.P. 11800, Montevideo, Uruguay. E-mail: rfac...@fq.edu.uy Phone: 598 2 924 98 59 598 2 929 06 48 Fax:598 2 9241906 Web: http://cryssmat.fq.edu.uy/ricardo/ricardo.htm - - Original Message - From: Doron Naveh na...@cmu.edu To: siesta-l@uam.es Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: [SIESTA-L] band-structure of supercell Hi there siesters, I ran into a very basic problem. I'm trying to calculate the bandstructure of a slab. For that matter I an illustrate my problem on 2x2 graphene unit cell. The \Gamma point of the 2x2 cell gives wrong eigenvalues compared to the 1x1 cell (a factor of ~4!!) . Is there a rigid shift of the BZ center ? Here are the lattice vectors/atom position blocks for the 2x2 cell. for the primitive cell atom position is 0,0,0.5; 1/3,1/3,0.5 and the lattice parameter reduced by half. Thanks, -D. LatticeConstant 4.9200 Ang %block LatticeVectors 0.5 0.866025404 0.0 -0.5 0.866025404 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 %endblock LatticeVectors AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional %block
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure
Hi. A few weeks ago I have the same problema that you. I write here that you need to calculate bands structure WriteBands true BandLinesScale pi/a %block Bandlines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama %endblock block Bandlines The bands lines can be scaled by pi/a or Recipprocal Lattice Vectors. I think that it is more easy by ReciprocalLatticeVectors. But I think that according your data are scaled by pi/a. In systemlabel.bands are the bandlines. Then, you have to compile gnubands (utility directory): ./gnubands systemlabel.bands bandsoutput. Now, you have a file, use this file to plot bands stracture with gnuplots, xmgrace, sigmaplot, origin, matlab, ect. Coordinates of k points are at the end of systemlabel.bands and energy fermi are in the top of file.bands. As I said above, few weeks ago I had the same problem. I wrote to L-SIESTA, with the subject Band structure calculations and K-points, check it. It helps me a lot. Dear All, I am new user SIESTA. I would like to calculate the band structure 0f C80 fullerene. Below I have written the input for the band structure and my results is showing just the straight line. Can any body tell me the what is wrong in my input? Please help how to use the X.band file for band structure? Thanks! SC %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama %endblock BandLines %block WaveFunKPoints 0.000 0.000 0.000 free 1 to 10 %endblock WaveFuncKpoints
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure
Dear Garcia, Thank you for your help. Thanks! SC On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 2:35 PM, gjgar...@ujaen.es wrote: Hi. A few weeks ago I have the same problema that you. I write here that you need to calculate bands structure WriteBands true BandLinesScale pi/a %block Bandlines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama %endblock block Bandlines The bands lines can be scaled by pi/a or Recipprocal Lattice Vectors. I think that it is more easy by ReciprocalLatticeVectors. But I think that according your data are scaled by pi/a. In systemlabel.bands are the bandlines. Then, you have to compile gnubands (utility directory): ./gnubands systemlabel.bands bandsoutput. Now, you have a file, use this file to plot bands stracture with gnuplots, xmgrace, sigmaplot, origin, matlab, ect. Coordinates of k points are at the end of systemlabel.bands and energy fermi are in the top of file.bands. As I said above, few weeks ago I had the same problem. I wrote to L-SIESTA, with the subject Band structure calculations and K-points, check it. It helps me a lot. Dear All, I am new user SIESTA. I would like to calculate the band structure 0f C80 fullerene. Below I have written the input for the band structure and my results is showing just the straight line. Can any body tell me the what is wrong in my input? Please help how to use the X.band file for band structure? Thanks! SC %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama %endblock BandLines %block WaveFunKPoints 0.000 0.000 0.000 free 1 to 10 %endblock WaveFuncKpoints
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure
Band structure of a fullerene C80. SC On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM, N H neyh...@gmail.com wrote: band structure of a molecule? cheers NH On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM, sugata chowdhury sugata2...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, I am new user SIESTA. I would like to calculate the band structure 0f C80 fullerene. Below I have written the input for the band structure and my results is showing just the straight line. Can any body tell me the what is wrong in my input? Please help how to use the X.band file for band structure? Thanks! SC %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama %endblock BandLines %block WaveFunKPoints 0.000 0.000 0.000 free 1 to 10 %endblock WaveFuncKpoints
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band Structure
Which is a molecule nonetheless. It just makes some sense, perhaps, if we are talking about a molecular crystal, or if you are working with the C80 molecules in a polymerized state. Otherwise, all you need ia a gamma point calculation in a cell big enough to get your molecule isolated, and look at the .EIG file for the discrete energy levels. Marcos On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, sugata chowdhury sugata2...@gmail.com wrote: Band structure of a fullerene C80. SC On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM, N H neyh...@gmail.com wrote: band structure of a molecule? cheers NH On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM, sugata chowdhury sugata2...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I am new user SIESTA. I would like to calculate the band structure 0f C80 fullerene. Below I have written the input for the band structure and my results is showing just the straight line. Can any body tell me the what is wrong in my input? Please help how to use the X.band file for band structure? Thanks! SC %block BandLines 1 1.000 1.000 1.000 L 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama 30 2.000 0.000 0.000 X 10 2.000 0.500 0.500 U 35 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gama %endblock BandLines %block WaveFunKPoints 0.000 0.000 0.000 free 1 to 10 %endblock WaveFuncKpoints
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure calculations and K-points
Hi Marcos Thank a lot, Gregorio Hi Gregorio, On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:02 PM, gjgar...@ujaen.es wrote: I am a new user of SIESTA. It's ok, everyone has been one at some point :D I am trying to calculated the band structure a pi-conjugated polymer. I have searched in the SIESTA-L, I have found that I need a blocklabel such as BandLinesScale ReciprocalLatticeVectors %block BandLines 1 0.0 0.0 0.0 # Gamma-point 20 0.5 0.0 0.0 # X-point etc %endblock BandLines I have to add: WriteBands True If the manual says so... (really, I don't remember it by heart). I have some questions: 1)I noted that BandLinesScales can be scaled by ReciprocalLatticeVectors or pi/2, which is the differece? A huge one when it comes to specifying the points to be plotted, but the results are the same. For the first, you can determine at which points your band structure will be written as a fraction of the reciprocal lattice vectors themselves, whereas in the second, you will have actual cartesian coordinates in k-space, but scaled by the factor pi/a. As an example, suppose you have a 2D cell in real space with LatticeConstant A, such that LatticeConstant A Ang %block LatticeVectors 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 5.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 50.000 %endblock LatticeVectors The reciprocal lattice vectors as siesta calculates would then be b1=(2*pi/A,0) and b2=(0,2*pi/5A) (b3 is close to zero, so I won't take it into account from now on). So now suppose that the points of interest to you are the middle of the largest side **of the BZ** (let's call it M), one of its corners (let's call it Y), and the Gamma point. In the first case (ReciprocalLatticeVectors), these three coordinates can be written as Gamma=(0,0) M=(0.5,0) Y=(0.5,0.5) (remember that the Brillouin zone is the Wigner-Seitz cell in reciprocal space!). In the second case (scaled by pi/A), you'd have Gamma=(0,0) M=(1.,0) Y=(1.0,1/5) get it? It's just two different ways of expressing the same thing, whatever is easier for you. Often it is easier to use the fractional coordinates in k-space (ReciprocalLatticeVectors). 2) The first colum indicates the grid between two consecutive points. How Can I know what value Must I use? What k-points (gamma, x, L, etc) Must I use? Does it related with WirteKpoints, WreteEigenvalues and Writekbands? That depends on the symmetry of your system. In your case, plotting a band structure only makes sense if you have a crystal or an infinte polymer chain - in this latter case, all you have to do is plot the structure along the reciprocal lattice vector corresponding to the polymer chain's length. There are some internet resources on crystallography that give you a set of high-symmetry k-points for many lattices, I think the Bilbao Crystallographic Server is completely open for everyone. 3) Finally. I know about GnuPlot, Does anyone tell me some program for view the band structures? Does some program for Windows operative system? Gnuplot for Windows? :) (It does exist...) Check the siesta documentation for the bands files, it's pretty straightforward to plot them using gnuplot. Marcos
Re: [SIESTA-L] Band structure calculations and K-points
I prefer using xmgrace to plot band structures: menus and windows to change plot settings... Chris Rowan 2010/1/7 Mehmet Topsakal topsa...@unam.bilkent.edu.tr Hi Gregorio, for band structure plotting, you can follow these simple steps: Suppose that we have a carbon chain structure as in RUN.fdf attachment. After running siesta as siesta RUN.fdf OUT.fdf , Chain.bands file will be generated. Copy the draw_bands script into your $HOME/bin directory and make it executable. Then call it as draw_bands OUT.fdf -5 +5 from linux terminal. Here OUT.fdf is the output file which is generated after siesta run and -5 and +5 are the y-axis energy boundaries for band structure plot. draw_bands script requires 2 external programs. The first one is gnubands.x which can be found in /Utils/ directory of siesta setup. It can easily be compiled by f95, ifort, gfortran The second one is matlab (or octave). Octave setup is very easy in linux. Simply type apt-get install octave or yum install octave from terminal for ubuntu and fedora. draw_bands generates two files, bands.dat2 and bands.m . You can copy them to your windows machine and run bands.m with matlab. Matlab figures look better and i prefer to use matlab. But octave figures are also sufficient. These procedure is really easy and produces a nice band structure plot as shown in attachment (bands.eps or bands.pdf). All subplots are the same band structure with different y-axis limits. The fermi level is shifted to the zero and the band gap (Eg) is also calculated as seen from the eps file. I suggest you to examine the 85. 86. 87. 99. 100. 101. lines of draw_bands script and modify them as you wish. I hope these help you. 2010/1/7 Marcos VerÃssimo Alves marcos.verissimo.al...@gmail.com Hi Gregorio, On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:02 PM, gjgar...@ujaen.es wrote: I am a new user of SIESTA. It's ok, everyone has been one at some point :D I am trying to calculated the band structure a pi-conjugated polymer. I have searched in the SIESTA-L, I have found that I need a blocklabel such as BandLinesScale ReciprocalLatticeVectors %block BandLines 10.0 0.0 0.0 # Gamma-point 20 0.5 0.0 0.0 # X-point etc %endblock BandLines I have to add: WriteBands True If the manual says so... (really, I don't remember it by heart). I have some questions: 1)I noted that BandLinesScales can be scaled by ReciprocalLatticeVectors or pi/2, which is the differece? A huge one when it comes to specifying the points to be plotted, but the results are the same. For the first, you can determine at which points your band structure will be written as a fraction of the reciprocal lattice vectors themselves, whereas in the second, you will have actual cartesian coordinates in k-space, but scaled by the factor pi/a. As an example, suppose you have a 2D cell in real space with LatticeConstant A, such that LatticeConstant A Ang %block LatticeVectors 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 5.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 50.000 %endblock LatticeVectors The reciprocal lattice vectors as siesta calculates would then be b1=(2*pi/A,0) and b2=(0,2*pi/5A) (b3 is close to zero, so I won't take it into account from now on). So now suppose that the points of interest to you are the middle of the largest side **of the BZ** (let's call it M), one of its corners (let's call it Y), and the Gamma point. In the first case (ReciprocalLatticeVectors), these three coordinates can be written as Gamma=(0,0) M=(0.5,0) Y=(0.5,0.5) (remember that the Brillouin zone is the Wigner-Seitz cell in reciprocal space!). In the second case (scaled by pi/A), you'd have Gamma=(0,0) M=(1.,0) Y=(1.0,1/5) get it? It's just two different ways of expressing the same thing, whatever is easier for you. Often it is easier to use the fractional coordinates in k-space (ReciprocalLatticeVectors). 2) The first colum indicates the grid between two consecutive points. How Can I know what value Must I use? What k-points (gamma, x, L, etc) Must I use? Does it related with WirteKpoints, WreteEigenvalues and Writekbands? That depends on the symmetry of your system. In your case, plotting a band structure only makes sense if you have a crystal or an infinte polymer chain - in this latter case, all you have to do is plot the structure along the reciprocal lattice vector corresponding to the polymer chain's length. There are some internet resources on crystallography that give you a set of high-symmetry k-points for many lattices, I think the Bilbao Crystallographic Server is completely open for everyone. 3) Finally. I know about GnuPlot, Does anyone tell me some program for view the band structures? Does some program for Windows operative system? Gnuplot for Windows? :) (It does exist...) Check the siesta