Re: [silk] introduction
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 rene wrote: | Since last September I'm in Bangalore, working with janastu.org and | Dinesh from janastu pointed me to the list. Currently staying in | Trivandrum I hope to have some nice fruitful discussions on the list. If you are the same Rene who was/is at freed.in 2008 I hope you got your backpack back (grrr...that's one bad phrase). As regards fruitful discussions ... hmmm - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw www.linkedin.com/in/sankarshan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHwhi8XQZpNTcrCzMRAnLWAJ9UCJPe2rRWbnNV+cLmfGmVoN5zJwCcCbq8 WKzNIoWG7MKlOuy/jGiBtcQ= =x4uV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[silk] Youtube an .pk Telecom
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7262071.stm The BBC News website's technology editor, Darren Waters, says that to block Pakistan's citizens from accessing YouTube it is believed Pakistan Telecom hijacked the web server address of the popular video site. Those details were then passed on to the country's internet service providers so that anyone in Pakistan attempting to go to YouTube was instead re-directed to a different address. But the details of the hijack were leaked out into the wider internet from PCCW and as a result YouTube was mistakenly blocked by internet service providers around the world. snip What does that mean and is it that trivial to knock a site off-line?
[silk] Particularly for Thaths and Charles...
http://io9.com/359932/the-pros-and-cons-of-a-google-brain-implant The brain..er... googles at the idea... Deepa.
Re: [silk] Youtube an .pk Telecom
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean and is it that trivial to knock a site off-line? ...Pakistan Telecom routed the address block that YouTube's servers are into a black hole as a simple measure to filter access to the service. However, this routing information escaped from Pakistan Telecom to its ISP PCCW in Hong Kong, which propagated the route to the rest of the world. So any packets for YouTube would end up in Pakistan Telecom's black hole instead. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080225-insecure-routing-redirects-youtube-to-pakistan.html What the heck does this stuff mean? It escaped? So anyone can 'escape' routing information to shut down the 'tubes?
Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut
On Feb 16, 2008 3:48 PM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, looks like Vijay TV has finally scraped up the guts to go beyond Tamil (or Hindi) serials/movies with their retrograde, biased and suppressive attitude towards women all in the name of preserving culture (whatever it means) are a waste of my time my zero paise worth on most serials/movies/etc. I don't know her; but I found this article very interesting. However, as a dyed-in-the-wool Tambram (Tamizh Brahmin) Mami, I find this strange phenomenon that I call pseudo-honesty amongst many members of my community. They are perfectly willing to watch these reality shows, and perfectly willing to make fairly objective comments ...as long as it is all in the abstract. Discussing *themselves* or people known to them? Fat chance. You see, they, and their friends, are all normal. That is exactly what one of my relatives said to me, Thank goodness, we are all normal people. The people on these shows are, Actually Hindu religion is truly free [0] [1] in every sense of the way and very open to (mis)interpretation, even if its followers are control freaks in the name of culture, honour, whatever [0] http://www.galva108.org/deities.html [1] http://www.galva108.org/hinduism.html That said, as far as 'discussion' goes, that stems from the dont ask questions culture. Forget such shows, it extends to every sphere of our life. I find people unwilling to even question what they teach or learn themselves. When I learn carnatic music, I ask the meaning of the song in the language (usually telugu, tamil, kannada, malyalam, sanskrit which i am curious about) taught or why a particular raga is constructed in that way, how and why its similar or not, comparison with Hindustani music, and a zillion other mundane questions; which has always always annoyed every teacher i've known till date. Not that this research interests me but its just sheer curiosity; which i satisfy via the Internet. Maybe folks are not interested, dont care about the meaning or construction but I find the attitude toward teaching/learning more disappointing than anything else. -- || vid ||
Re: [silk] introduction
On 2/24/08, rene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, so after posting a little bit now some intro, but who I am? (or who I like to be? good question anyway) A technophil and sometimes technophobic, India-loving German, who came to India first time two years ago. Involved in a Welcome to India :) wireless community network in Germany (http://www.on-i.de), I have some extensive theoretical and practical knowledge about wireless networks. And usually I try to convince people who pass by me that - combined with an community approach - those networks are fun, exciting, etc. Thats what I did around Bangalore for a good while (http://b-w-m.absorb.it) Beside being an hacker (write some free software), a Chaos Computer Club-member and being a kid playing around with technology I'm also a could you fill in the blanks about the CCC experience this year (or was it last ...2007 ? :-)) || vid ||
Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut
always always annoyed every teacher i've known till date. Not that this research interests me but its just sheer curiosity; which i satisfy via the Internet. Maybe folks are not interested, dont care about the meaning or construction but I find the attitude toward teaching/learning more disappointing than anything else. That's been the attitude of quite a few teachers. Science, maths, English or whatever. I was lucky to have some very good English teachers, and managed to flunk + bare pass my way through the rest of my subjects, leaving me with an abiding distaste for both science and maths. And a lot of affection for English literature. Oh well.. if that were different I would be reading sciam rather than Sir Walter Scott (when I'm not reading Louis L'Amour) suresh
Re: [silk] Youtube an .pk Telecom
Gautam John wrote: What does that mean and is it that trivial to knock a site off-line? Well, for a chronology of what went on, take a look at this - http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/02/pakistan_hijacks_youtube_1.shtml Or for a simpler overview, see Brian Krebs' article in the Washington post (in his securityfix blog) - http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/02/pakistan_censorship_order _take.html My comment there on that blog post might put it into simpler terms. For something more complex, please get some cisco / other routing classes. Those who are already CCIEs and reading this, please forgive me for a really bad and oversimplified analogy What this is like, is someone in a phone company in Atlanta screwing up and announcing that everything in (say) the 781 area code belongs to his telephone exchange, and is routed out of Atlanta rather than out of Boston (which is where 781 is). And then that Atlanta phone company sends out an update so that several other phone companies actually believe it. So, calls for boston people with 781 area codes end up getting rerouted to Atlanta instead of Boston. And either getting lost in thin air (as theres nobody in Atlanta who has a 781 area code phone) or making random unrelated phones ring. Its a crude analogy and phone switching doesnt really work this way .. but thought I would try at least making one.
Re: [silk] Youtube an .pk Telecom
Gautam John wrote: [ on 09:58 AM 2/26/2008 ] http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080225-insecure-routing-redirects-youtube-to-pakistan.html What the heck does this stuff mean? It escaped? So anyone can 'escape' routing information to shut down the 'tubes? In essence, yes. Sometimes. This piece may be of help: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9878655-7.html?tag=nl.e498 Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] Youtube an .pk Telecom
What the heck does this stuff mean? It escaped? So anyone can 'escape' routing information to shut down the 'tubes? In essence, yes. Sometimes. This piece may be of help: In essence - yes, but most providers that provide connectivity (transit etc) - have best practices that include filtering route announcements for sanity checks, to make sure stuff like this just doesn't happen. I mean, even if a big dumb 3rd world telco (like these guys, or like some of our own homegrown ISPs) screw up router announcements, these are caught and filtered out so that this damage doesn't occur Unfortunately - PCCW (big hong kong ISP - pacific century cyberworks) that provides connectivity to lots of smaller asian ISPs - doesn't do this. And youtube suffered as a result. What pccw did to stop this happening was even dumber, they cut off all of Pakistan telecom for a few hours.
Re: [silk] Youtube an .pk Telecom
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: [ on 11:44 AM 2/26/2008 ] What this is like, is someone in a phone company in Atlanta screwing up and announcing that everything in (say) the 781 area code belongs to his telephone exchange, and is routed out of Atlanta rather than out of Boston (which is where 781 is). And then that Atlanta phone company sends out an update so that several other phone companies actually believe it. So, calls for boston people with 781 area codes end up getting rerouted to Atlanta instead of Boston. And either getting lost in thin air (as theres nobody in Atlanta who has a 781 area code phone) or making random unrelated phones ring. As a completely irrelevant addendum to your explanation: in the above context, I take a deep and unholy delight in the fact that Atalanta's area code is 404. (as in, document not found) g, d, r Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
