Re: [silk] Bush's Arabian visit....

2008-05-19 Thread Bonobashi


Re: [silk] Bush's Arabian visit....

2008-05-19 Thread Bonobashi


Re: [silk] On Innovation in India

2008-05-19 Thread Anil Kumar
Wed, 14 May 2008 10:14:22 +0530 Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 http://seekingalpha.com/article/76511-where-are-indias-innovative-companies-products-and-solutions

 According to the article, the missing ingredients required to jump-start
 India's innovation ecosystem are;

   1. Access to intellectual and relational capital.
   2. A well developed Angel and Venture Capital industry does not exist in
 India.
   3. An active segment of the Press focused on promoting early stage
 ventures and building Entrepreneurs into Business Celebrities.
   4. A Comprehensive Understanding of the Indian Consumer and the lack of
 formal Government support to promote Entrepreneurship and Innovation.
   5. Establishing Compelling Reasons to Innovate.

 Quite safely, one can say that 5 exists and as for 4, the less government
 'support' the better, yes?


Apologies for the delayed posting in response to this post;

My response is in reference to Point - 4:
I quite disagree with the 'less government 'support' the better' argument.
In India, good examples (IMHO) are the development of the Information
Technology sector, now followed by the Business Process Outsourcing sector,
both having benefited from various forms of government (both Central and
State) support including but not limited to support in procuring land and
buildings, reduced to nil stamp duties and registration fees on real estate
transactions, tax free income generation.  There are a few other benefits
and support on administrative and regulatory levels.  This support
(particularly from Central Government) is administered through the Software
Technology Parks of India Scheme.

Recently, India has evolved this support mechanism through a legislation and
supports eligible activities under the Special Economic Zones Act.

I think such support is certainly worth-while for the development of India.

-- Anil KUMAR


[silk] Google Assists In Arrest Of Indian Man (fwd)

2008-05-19 Thread Brian Behlendorf


Bringing a couple of threads from this list together...

Brian

-- Forwarded message --
Date: 19 May 2008 16:26:03 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Google Assists In Arrest Of Indian Man

Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/19/148208
Posted by: CmdrTaco, on 2008-05-19 14:47:00

   An anonymous reader writes After a Google user posted a profane
   picture of the Hindu saint Shivaji, Indian authorities contacted
   Google to ask for his IP address. [1]Google complied. He was arrested
   and is [2]reported to have been beaten by a lathi and asked to use the
   same bowl to eat and to use in the toilet. Not surprisingly, Google is
   a keen to play this down as Yahoo is being hauled over the coals by US
   Congress for handing over an IP addresses and emails to the Chinese
   Government which resulted in a Chinese democracy activist being
   jailed. Readers are noting that these are 2 unrelated cases -- the
   latter is several months old.

References

   1. 
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/18/hit-pause-on-the-evil-button-google-assists-in-arrest-of-indian-man/
   2. 
http://www.techgoss.com/fullstory.aspx?storyid=c2211350011508011508%205:12:14%20AMS14347



Re: [silk] On Innovation in India

2008-05-19 Thread Perry E. Metzger

Anil Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I quite disagree with the 'less government 'support' the better' argument.
 In India, good examples (IMHO) are the development of the Information
 Technology sector, now followed by the Business Process Outsourcing sector,
 both having benefited from various forms of government (both Central and
 State) support including but not limited to support in procuring land and
 buildings, reduced to nil stamp duties and registration fees on real estate
 transactions, tax free income generation.

Here is my simple counterargument. If you look at the countries with
the highest levels of economic development, they are largely the
countries with the smallest amount of government interference in the
economy. Indeed, the lesson of India over the last century may be that
the ideas of the Fabian Society don't really work out well in
practice.

On the other hand, if you look at what John Cowperthwaite's Hong Kong,
it did remarkably well in quite a short period of time. If you look at
the primary change in China in the last 30 years, it has been the
elimination of control, not the imposition of control. If you look at
the economic decline of France, it has coincided almost perfectly with
the imposition of strong labor controls.

I am not sure I want to get into an argument here with people as I'm
not an expert in Indian affairs, but I think the experiment has been
tried repeatedly at this point -- Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, etc. on the
deregulation side, Argentina, France, the UK prior to Thatcher,
etc. on the regulation side -- and I think the results are clear.

Perry



Re: [silk] Bush's Arabian visit....

2008-05-19 Thread Perry E. Metzger

Rishab Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Sun, May 18, 2008 at 06:10:52PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
 The Narita Express was pretty fast when I last took it. Not a

 it does 60 km in just under an hr. compare that to, say, the arlanda
 express in stockholm that does 45 km in 20 mins. or even horrible
 heathrow, 25 km in 15 mins. tokyo could do better than that!

True, it isn't insanely speedy. I'm used to being stuck in traffic in
New York for an hour and a half going to Kennedy, which isn't even
outside the city limits. Perhaps my standards are too low, though --
you are clearly right that much of the world does significantly better
at this point.

Perry
-- 
Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [silk] Bush's Arabian visit....

2008-05-19 Thread Perry E. Metzger

Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Perry E. Metzger [18/05/08 18:10 -0400]:
The Narita Express was pretty fast when I last took it. Not a
Shinkansen by any means, but still pretty good, and it stops right
inside the airport. (Also very comfortable, and it has assigned
seating, although that's a bit of a problem for those who can't read
the (two) kanji needed to find your seat...)

 NEX has bilingual seat numbers, announcements etc .. everything (at least
 as of late march when I was last in Tokyo)

You may be right. I could be mis-remembering. My last trip to Japan
was five or six years ago (amazing how time flies...) I remember it
being useful to recognize the box-with-axle-like symbol for car, but
perhaps my recollection is tricking me.

-- 
Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [silk] The Great Firewall

2008-05-19 Thread Brian Behlendorf

On Sat, 17 May 2008, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If securing the dns lookups of you browser is good enough, firefox has
the ability to use the other end of a tunnel for dns lookups. Go to
about:config and search for the string 'dns'. I'm posting via
cellphone and can't be more specific.


Just set the variable network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to 'true'.


I had done this in the past, and it led to unreliable load times and my 
ssh connection getting wedged pretty frequently, requiring a restart. 
Trying it again against a newer ssh server, it seems like those problems 
have gone away; probably a switch to some sort of non-blocking DNS lookups 
on the server's side.  Thanks!


Brian




Re: [silk] Bush's Arabian visit....

2008-05-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio

Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

Lots of Japan has been going bilingual, and even (gasp) hiring non
japanese.

Thaths and I met up with Shradha (quite a character on livejournal) a
couple of years back when she was in kyoto - she's in the bay area now

Did a post grad course in Japan (Keio U I think) and then worked as an 
exec

assistant in the office of the chairman at Sanyo. Speaks fluent japanese,
got quite immersed in japanese culture ..

Got reminded of that seeing an IP post some hours back about how Japan is
finally, reluctantly, hiring more engineers from abroad.


We're getting a tad off topic here, but you may want to stress quite 
heavily the /finally/ and /reluctantly/ bits in the graph above. :)


Jim

--
http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/




Re: [silk] Bush's Arabian visit....

2008-05-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Jim Grisanzio [20/05/08 09:14 +0900]:

Got reminded of that seeing an IP post some hours back about how Japan is
finally, reluctantly, hiring more engineers from abroad.


We're getting a tad off topic here, but you may want to stress quite  
heavily the /finally/ and /reluctantly/ bits in the graph above. :)


If I was posting that in html, and if I was in the habit of doing such
stuff, those two words would rate 18 pt type, bold, underlined, and in
bright red.



Re: [silk] On Innovation in India

2008-05-19 Thread Udhay Shankar N

Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote, [on 5/20/2008 2:43 AM]:


IT is a nice example of how the absence of government interference is
good. indian IT's best growth happened while there was no ministry of
IT, at which point in time electricity, telecommunications,
broadcasting etc (which all had ministries) were barely growing.


To be fair, the rise of the IT industry in Bangalore, at least, can be 
quite clearly traced back to the (quite intentional, AFAICT) 
establishment of various 'hi-tech' public sector organizations here: 
ISRO, BEL, NAL, DRDO etc. (for non-Indians: the Indian Space Research 
Organization, Bharat Electronics Limited, National Aeronautics Lab, 
Defense Research and Development Organization.)


Oh, and the Indian Institute of Science (though this wasn't a 100% 
governmental effort.)


Udhay
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



Re: [silk] Bush's Arabian visit....

2008-05-19 Thread va
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Still not extreme enough. I could not find any good videos for
 demonstration but the Virar Local (Churchgate - Virar) is way more
 crowded. In fact so crowded that you should not bother trying to get
[snip]
 1. http://theideasmithy.com/a-survival-guide-to-mumbai-trains/

omigosh, i've forgotten the howto** catch a running train... :(

** getting on and off a train in motion is an art practiced and honed
to perfection by millions of commuters and their trick is to run with
the train ;-)