[silk] Hello from a new acquisition
I'm forwarding this message for new silklister Chew Lin Kay, as she seems to be having trouble sending email to the machine that hosts silk. The appropriate authorities are on the case. Welcome, Chew. Udhay -- Forwarded message -- From: Chew Lin Kay Date: Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:35 PM Subject: Hello from a new acquisition To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Hi everyone! I am Udhay's latest acquisition, which he picked up on a recent trip to Singapore. I'm an obvious procrastinator (U: how many times did you ask for the intro post?), enjoy good conversation and even better at pretending that I know what's going on. For kicks, I'm a fledgling perfume geek (purchase/wear, not mix), pretend towards chocolate connoisseurship and am a volunteer inter-faith facilitator in one of Singapore's local dialogue programmes. xo, Chew Lin -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition
Udhay Shankar N [10/01/10 16:30 +0530]: I'm forwarding this message for new silklister Chew Lin Kay, as she seems to be having trouble sending email to the machine that hosts silk. The appropriate authorities are on the case. Sigh - received and then shunted (held over by mailman) as mailman barfed on whatever email she sent. Strange. Tell her to resend as plaintext instead of html, or with gmail's web interface, etc. 2010-01-10 00:13:36 1NTsvY-0007AC-2h <= chewlin@gmail.com H=mail-pw0-f58.google.com [209.85.160.58]:51872 I=[204.74.68.40]:25 P=esmtp S=3085 id=eff0cc801001100014m1933de6xe5dbbe8b1a1b1...@mail.gmail.com T="Hello from a new acquisition" from for silklist@lists.hserus.net 2010-01-10 00:13:36 1NTsvY-0007AC-2h => silklist F= R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport S=3138 2010-01-10 03:00:29 1NTvX3-0007Zp-2h <= silklist-bounces+chewlin.kay=gmail@lists.hserus.net H=(frodo.hserus.net) [2001:4830:20b0:b::3]:49660 I=[2001:4830:20b0:b::3]:587 P=esmtp S=2494 id=4b49b331.9010...@pobox.com T="[silk] Hello from a new acquisition" from for chewlin@gmail.com 2010-01-10 03:00:29 1NTvX3-0007Zp-2h => chewlin@gmail.com F= R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp S=2564 H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [209.85.216.56] C="250 2.0.0 OK 1263121309 15si78983685pwi.10"
Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition
Apologies for the spammage, we're testing out a theory. Fingers crossed! xo, CL On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > Udhay Shankar N [10/01/10 16:30 +0530]: >> >> I'm forwarding this message for new silklister Chew Lin Kay, as she >> seems to be having trouble sending email to the machine that hosts silk. >> The appropriate authorities are on the case. > > Sigh - received and then shunted (held over by mailman) as mailman barfed > on whatever email she sent. Strange. Tell her to resend as plaintext > instead of html, or with gmail's web interface, etc. >
Re: [silk] Hello from a new acquisition
Chew Lin Kay wrote, [on 1/10/2010 6:59 PM]: > Apologies for the spammage, we're testing out a theory. Fingers crossed! This time it seems to work. Weird - I haven't seen this behaviour before. Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] The Neuroscience of Screwing Up
Udhay Shankar N wrote: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/fail_accept_defeat/all/1 Accept Defeat: The Neuroscience of Screwing Up Modern science is populated by expert insiders, schooled in narrow disciplines. Researchers have all studied the same thick textbooks, which make the world of fact seem settled. This led Kuhn, the philosopher of science, to argue that the only scientists capable of acknowledging the anomalies — and thus shifting paradigms and starting revolutions — are “either very young or very new to the field.” In other words, they are classic outsiders, naive and untenured. They aren’t inhibited from noticing the failures that point toward new possibilities. Really nice article. The "acknowledging the anomalies" bit from Kuhn may enable you to jump paradigms, which is very cool, but it also gets you a lot of knives buried in your back. Acknowledge carefully. :) Jim
Re: [silk] The Neuroscience of Screwing Up
> Really nice article. The "acknowledging the anomalies" bit from Kuhn may > enable you to jump paradigms, which is very cool, but it also gets you a lot > of knives buried in your back. Acknowledge carefully. :) Yep, was fun reading... There's this analogy in ThinkerToys: http://books.google.com/books?id=5ozm2lpj05QC&pg=PA51 Imagine a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it. Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb toward the banana. As soon as he touches the stair, spray all the monkeys with ice-cold water. After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the monkeys are sprayed with ice-cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it. Now, turn off the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and will want to climb the stairs. To his surprise, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted. Next, remove another of the original monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm. Again, replace a third monkey with new one. The new one goes to the stairs and is attacked. Two of the four monkeys that beat him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs, or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. After replacing the fourth and fifth monkeys with new ones, all the monkeys that have been sprayed with ice-cold water have been replaced. Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs. Why not? Because as far as they know that’s the way it’s always been around here. There's also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_(sociology)
Re: [silk] The Neuroscience of Screwing Up
2010/1/6 Udhay Shankar N > > http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/fail_accept_defeat/all/1 > > Accept Defeat: The Neuroscience of Screwing Up > > * By Jonah Lehrer > * December 21, 2009 | > * 10:00 am | > * Wired Jan 2010 Nice. I should send this to my scientist father. (Actually, I have already sent it, but just now realized the mail didn't get delivered). For those interested in similar topics, I highly recommend The Trouble with Science by Robin Dunbar [1] (no, I don't know if they are related). Kiran [1] http://www.amazon.com/Trouble-Science-Prof-Robin-Dunbar/dp/0674910192