Re: [silk] Life is a game. This is your strategy guide.

2014-03-05 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mar 4, 2014 5:08 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 
  A selfish organism is the very definition of cancer.
 

 I'm not sure if I agree with all that you said, Cheeni. But that last
 line...breathtaking in its simplicity.

Thanks Deepa, you are kind as always. :-)


Re: [silk] aqvavit

2014-03-05 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 26-Jul-13 12:16 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

 Another water purification tidbit:
 
 http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle-into-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter
 
 
   Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter

And another:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0089934

Open Access Peer-Reviewed Research Article
Water Filtration Using Plant Xylem

Published: February 26, 2014
DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0089934


Abstract

Effective point-of-use devices for providing safe drinking water are
urgently needed to reduce the global burden of waterborne disease. Here
we show that plant xylem from the sapwood of coniferous trees – a
readily available, inexpensive, biodegradable, and disposable material –
can remove bacteria from water by simple pressure-driven filtration.
Approximately 3 cm3 of sapwood can filter water at the rate of several
liters per day, sufficient to meet the clean drinking water needs of one
person. The results demonstrate the potential of plant xylem to address
the need for pathogen-free drinking water in developing countries and
resource-limited settings.

snip

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



Re: [silk] A new buzzphrase: procedural content creation

2014-03-05 Thread Rashmi Dhanwani
 A little baffled by the tone of voice here. For something that is a piece
 of self-promotion, on their own website, why write it like a newspaper
 article?

Perhaps this content was also created procedurally.

It's good communication. You don't realise that SpeedTree is the hero until
much later; but by then you want to beat up the writer of this piece.

Thanks.

Regards,

Rashmi Dhanwani
Linkedin: http://in.linkedin.com/in/rashmidhanwani
Twitter: www.twitter.com/rashmid


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:32 AM, gabin kattukaran gkattuka...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mar 2, 2014 11:41 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
 chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 

 
  A little baffled by the tone of voice here. For something that is a piece
  of self-promotion, on their own website, why write it like a newspaper
  article?

 Perhaps this content was also created procedurally.

 -gabin



Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

2014-03-05 Thread Heather Madrone

I'm addressing some of the links Suresh forwarded to the list.

Bennett:

   If we’ve learned anything at all about from the history of
   Internet-as-utility, it’s that this strained analogy only applies in
   cases where there is no existing infrastructure, and probably ends
   best when a publicly-financed project is sold (or at least leased)
   to a private company for upgrades and management. We should be
   suspicious of projects aimed at providing Wi-Fi mesh because they’re
   slow as molasses on a winter’s day.

   I don’t see any examples of long-term success in the publicly-owned
   and operated networking space. And I also don’t see any examples of
   publicly-owned and operated Internet service providers doing any of
   the heavy lifting in the maintenance of the Internet protocols, a
   never-ending process that’s vital to the continuing growth of the
   Internet.

One of the oft-overlooked inconvenient facts about the Internet is that 
it was created by the US military to meet various Cold War objectives.  
The US government has poured huge amounts of cash into the Internet over 
the past 50 years. Much of the early work on protocols and structures 
was done at public universities on the military's dime. The Internet 
started as a public works project, and public money continues to play a 
significant role.


During the first decade I was online (1976-1986), it was widely 
understood that the Internet was to be used for military and research 
purposes. It was not open to commercial purposes. Advertising was not 
permitted, and it was generally understood that we were online as guests 
of the military and the universities.


The innovations that made the Internet possible did not originate at 
ATT. ATT, like any other monopoly, views innovation with extreme 
distrust and stifles it whenever possible. Innovation disrupts their 
business model, and threatens their control over our communications. 
ATT fought broadband every step of the way, and lapped up a lot of 
dollars from the public trough to expand its fiber network to make 
broadband possible. The cable companies were late entrants to the 
Internet game, once they realized that they had the broadband cable in 
place already and just had to figure out the upstream messaging part.


The broadband providers, like the railway robber barons of the 19th 
century American West, are political entrepreneurs. Much of the heavy 
lifting was done for them at public expense, and now they act like they 
built the whole thing by themselves and are perfectly entitled to run 
things just the way they like it. They cry foul when the very government 
that helped them build the infrastructure with public money wants to 
regulate the self-same infrastructure.


Sherman:

   Pursuing a public utility model while also desiring competition are
   fundamentally contradictory goals. Utilities are designed not to
   compete. Do you, or does anyone you know, have a choice of providers
   for water, sewage or electricity?

   My second question would be: is there anyone in the technology world
   who sees public utilities as a model for innovation? A 1.5 megabit
   connection (T1) was an unimaginable luxury when I started in tech in
   the mid-90′s. It was for well-funded companies only. Today, it is a
   low-end consumer connection and costs around 80% less. Has your
   sewage service followed a similar trajectory?

   A public utility is designed to be “good enough” and little more.
   There is no need, and little room, for differentiation or progress.
   Your electricity service is essentially unchanged from 20 years ago,
   and will look the same 10 years from now. Broadband, on the other
   hand, requires constant innovation if we are to move forward — and
   it has been delivering it, even if we desire more.

Public utilities exist because there are certain services where the 
infrastructure leads to a natural monopoly. Having these services in 
private hands created numerous disasters (the history of London's 
private water companies is instructive here, as is the history of the 
railroads in California). Thus, these services tend to be either 
publicly run or heavily regulated. In my experience, publicly run 
services tend to be cheaper and better than the privately run 
monopolies. Privately run monopolies are always trying to get one-up on 
their regulators and the public, while public utilities can get on with 
the job at hand.


Innovation is an interesting thing. Warfare (the business of 
governments, last time I checked) has been responsible for a great deal 
of innovation. Public investment in basic research also tends to foster 
a lot of innovation. People playing around with new toys also leads to a 
tremendous amount of innovation. Monopoly corporations, on the other 
hand, do not tend to innovate. They are sticks-in-the-mud heavily 
invested in maintaining the status quo. Moreover, monopoly corporations 
often successfully stifle innovation by 

Re: [silk] A new buzzphrase: procedural content creation

2014-03-05 Thread Radhika, Y.
I think it reflects the overall dumbing down of news and ascendancy of
public relations speak. Make a self-promotional piece sound like news and
news sound like a public relations piece.


Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

2014-03-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Having, in India, started off with an internet which was exclusively a 
government monopoly and only turned over to private enterprise some years down 
the line, I would say that making it a utility is something that most people 
here, given the local conditions, would resent,

Innovations were driven by bell labs, not exactly att, some on government 
funded projects to be sure. But increasingly, down the line, by ISPs and their 
peers in the market. And by content providers, and by CDNs, and by various 
other entities that haven't ever received a dime in government funding of 
research.

The Crawford and Wu model of public utility doesn't provide any sensible basis 
for regulation that I can see, and the model has shifted significantly from the 
old sense of net neutrality which once related to CLECs and unbundling of 
services,

I have seen claims that the broadband charges in the uk are like two pounds for 
some insanely fast amount, but then there are surcharges of ten to fifteen 
pounds more for the local loop costs etc.  So that unbundling certainly doesn't 
cost you less as it makes the pricing transparent and gives you market freedom 
to switch providers much easier, without the trouble of pulling fresh copper or 
fiber to your home each time you switch (which currently is not the case here 
in India, go figure)

--srs (iPad)

 On 06-Mar-2014, at 0:06, Heather Madrone heat...@madrone.com wrote:
 
 I'm addressing some of the links Suresh forwarded to the list.
 
 Bennett:
 
   If we’ve learned anything at all about from the history of
   Internet-as-utility, it’s that this strained analogy only applies in
   cases where there is no existing infrastructure, and probably ends
   best when a publicly-financed project is sold (or at least leased)
   to a private company for upgrades and management. We should be
   suspicious of projects aimed at providing Wi-Fi mesh because they’re
   slow as molasses on a winter’s day.
 
   I don’t see any examples of long-term success in the publicly-owned
   and operated networking space. And I also don’t see any examples of
   publicly-owned and operated Internet service providers doing any of
   the heavy lifting in the maintenance of the Internet protocols, a
   never-ending process that’s vital to the continuing growth of the
   Internet.
 
 One of the oft-overlooked inconvenient facts about the Internet is that it 
 was created by the US military to meet various Cold War objectives.  The US 
 government has poured huge amounts of cash into the Internet over the past 50 
 years. Much of the early work on protocols and structures was done at public 
 universities on the military's dime. The Internet started as a public works 
 project, and public money continues to play a significant role.
 
 During the first decade I was online (1976-1986), it was widely understood 
 that the Internet was to be used for military and research purposes. It was 
 not open to commercial purposes. Advertising was not permitted, and it was 
 generally understood that we were online as guests of the military and the 
 universities.
 
 The innovations that made the Internet possible did not originate at ATT. 
 ATT, like any other monopoly, views innovation with extreme distrust and 
 stifles it whenever possible. Innovation disrupts their business model, and 
 threatens their control over our communications. ATT fought broadband every 
 step of the way, and lapped up a lot of dollars from the public trough to 
 expand its fiber network to make broadband possible. The cable companies were 
 late entrants to the Internet game, once they realized that they had the 
 broadband cable in place already and just had to figure out the upstream 
 messaging part.
 
 The broadband providers, like the railway robber barons of the 19th century 
 American West, are political entrepreneurs. Much of the heavy lifting was 
 done for them at public expense, and now they act like they built the whole 
 thing by themselves and are perfectly entitled to run things just the way 
 they like it. They cry foul when the very government that helped them build 
 the infrastructure with public money wants to regulate the self-same 
 infrastructure.
 
 Sherman:
 
   Pursuing a public utility model while also desiring competition are
   fundamentally contradictory goals. Utilities are designed not to
   compete. Do you, or does anyone you know, have a choice of providers
   for water, sewage or electricity?
 
   My second question would be: is there anyone in the technology world
   who sees public utilities as a model for innovation? A 1.5 megabit
   connection (T1) was an unimaginable luxury when I started in tech in
   the mid-90′s. It was for well-funded companies only. Today, it is a
   low-end consumer connection and costs around 80% less. Has your
   sewage service followed a similar trajectory?
 
   A public utility is designed to be “good enough” and little more.
   There is no need, and little room, for 

Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

2014-03-05 Thread Heather Madrone

Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:


Having, in India, started off with an internet which was exclusively a 
government monopoly and only turned over to private enterprise some 
years down the line, I would say that making it a utility is something 
that most people here, given the local conditions, would resent,



I agree that any attempt to socialize the Internet would have people 
screaming bloody murder, but I do believe that the Internet is a 
utility. In most places, it appears to be a privately-run utility. In 
some places, it is a government-controlled monopoly where free speech is 
stifled. In the places where it seems to work best, it seems to be 
heavily regulated.


I do think we're going to see more cities providing free wireless access 
in high density areas, like New York City does.





Innovations were driven by bell labs, not exactly att, some on 
government funded projects to be sure. But increasingly, down the 
line, by ISPs and their peers in the market. And by content providers, 
and by CDNs, and by various other entities that haven't ever received 
a dime in government funding of research.



There have been a lot of players, for sure. Can you help me out, though? 
While I am aware of many useful things that came out of Bell Labs, I 
can't think of a single Internet protocol that originated there. Were 
you thinking of something in particular?
The Internet owes a few nods to XEROX PARC (XNS, the precursor of TCP, 
comes to mind), but I'm drawing a blank for key Internet technologies 
that came out of Bell Labs.


A technology company in the US that has never received a dime of 
government money would be an odd duck indeed. Certain branches of the US 
government buy one of everything.


--hmm


Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

2014-03-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Municipal wifi has a long and checkered history .. And city governments aren't 
the best funded organizations on the planet is the trouble.

Bell labs innovation was pre internet but then Unix did originate there. The 
internet isn't all networks. (And by the way see 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0 for some fun)

And there's a difference between federally funded research and having Uncle Sam 
as a customer when you bid for federal contracts.  I hope I am not splitting 
too many hairs when I say that, 

--srs (iPad)

 On 06-Mar-2014, at 8:13, Heather Madrone heat...@madrone.com wrote:
 
 Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 
 Having, in India, started off with an internet which was exclusively a 
 government monopoly and only turned over to private enterprise some years 
 down the line, I would say that making it a utility is something that most 
 people here, given the local conditions, would resent,
 
 
 I agree that any attempt to socialize the Internet would have people 
 screaming bloody murder, but I do believe that the Internet is a utility. In 
 most places, it appears to be a privately-run utility. In some places, it is 
 a government-controlled monopoly where free speech is stifled. In the places 
 where it seems to work best, it seems to be heavily regulated.
 
 I do think we're going to see more cities providing free wireless access in 
 high density areas, like New York City does.
 
 
 
 Innovations were driven by bell labs, not exactly att, some on government 
 funded projects to be sure. But increasingly, down the line, by ISPs and 
 their peers in the market. And by content providers, and by CDNs, and by 
 various other entities that haven't ever received a dime in government 
 funding of research.
 
 
 There have been a lot of players, for sure. Can you help me out, though? 
 While I am aware of many useful things that came out of Bell Labs, I can't 
 think of a single Internet protocol that originated there. Were you thinking 
 of something in particular?
 The Internet owes a few nods to XEROX PARC (XNS, the precursor of TCP, comes 
 to mind), but I'm drawing a blank for key Internet technologies that came out 
 of Bell Labs.
 
 A technology company in the US that has never received a dime of government 
 money would be an odd duck indeed. Certain branches of the US government buy 
 one of everything.
 
 --hmm


Re: [silk] A new buzzphrase: procedural content creation

2014-03-05 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang

On 3/2/2014 12:24 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

Very interesting - the new frontier of 'content' creation. Herewith the
most high profile example so far.


I've been following this blog called Procedural World, as the author 
works on a voxel-based world generator called Voxel Farm:


http://procworld.blogspot.com/

This stuff is suddenly in fashion because of Minecraft, so there are new 
engines and games appearing every day. Voxel Farm is particularly 
stunning though. I recommend starting from the oldest entries to really 
get an idea of how far he's come.


-Taj.