On 2019/05/26 1:26, Tomasz Rola wrote:
This list, as any other mailing list nowadays (I guess) is distracting people away because the mail does not have 'like button'.
Thank goodness for that! :) The social media platforms are surely convenient (privacy issues aside) for many things, but that "like" bit is something I can do without. I much prefer threaded conversations on text mailing list written by people who write entire sentences.
Or 'button like'. But, like what? What button? There probably is a really huge gap in expectations how things are meant to work. My way is reading and writing with full size keyboard and terminal emulator. Not gonna to be appreciated by those who think they can replace computer with some stuff in their pocket.
I don't mind reading via phone. It's pretty handy. But I really hate writing via phone. Perhaps that's just my advanced age talking.
From the page: # The problem with no response is that there are five possible # interpretations: # # 1. The post is correct, well-written information that needs no # follow-up commentary. There's nothing more to say except "Yeah, what # he said." # # 2. The post is complete and utter nonsense, and no one wants to waste # the energy or bandwidth to even point this out. # # 3. No one read the post, for whatever reason. # # 4. No one understood the post, but won't ask for clarification, for # whatever reason. # # 5. No one cares about the post, for whatever reason. I think it is mostly 3 and 4, for whatever reason, like conspiracy to kill email and move all comms into push messaging directly to cell phones, plus people dumbing down because they get more and more shorter and shorter messages faster and faster. Overally, if you ask me a question which cannot be answered with conventional explanation/wisdom, I will recall some conspiracy theory or make up one on demand.
I think numbers 2-5 are closely related and not as important as number 1. Number 1 is a problem if you are trying to generate some consensus in a community and there's no response. Even if a post is correct or well-written there is always more that can be discovered by further discussions -- either by confirmations or challenges. Rarely is a single post complete.
I used to work for a manager once who deeply understood the value of a code review. We'd iterate -- rapidly -- on various documents, discussions, reports, problems, ideas, bugs, whatever. She'd engage the team mailing list and everyone jumped in. The cultural bias was simple: you were expected to contribute. And the final bit we produced together looked nothing like her original post -- which was usually correct and well-written in the first place.
Anyway, that's my take. Even if something is initially good. Give it a poke. See if it can be better.
Cheers, Jim
