Re: [silk] Failure of Sociology in India?
Aditya -- This book can be easily purchased in India, it's published here -- any good bookseller. If you're in Bangalore, try Premier. Carol - Original Message - From: Aditya Kapil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:33 pm Subject: Re: [silk] Failure of Sociology in India? To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > I would certainly not find this boring. Can I buy it in India? Or > do I have > to Amazon it. An ethnomethodologist friend is visiting, I'd like > to buy him > a copy too. > Adit. > > On Dec 12, 2007 1:16 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > May I recommend a recently published book -- Anthropology in the > East> edited by Patricia Uberoi et al (Permanent Black, 2007). > It's a collection > > of articles about important figures in the history of Indian > sociology / > > social anthropology, and one of its purposes was to make a > beginning at > > trying to understand the reasons for the sorry state of the > discipline, by > > tracing its history. I also have a piece in this volume, in > which I try to > > understand certain aspects of the discipline by looking at the > work of one > > of the founding 'fathers', GS Ghurye. But you might find such a > tome rather > > boring! > > > > Carol > > > > > > >
Re: [silk] Failure of Sociology in India?
Hi -- I'll forward your message about the website to Rukun Advani, I'm sure he'll appreciate the feedback. Yes, Permanent Black has been cornering many of the best social science / history publications recently. I have also sent them my book proposal, on none other than IT Bangalore! Carol - Original Message - From: Abhishek Hazra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:56 pm Subject: Re: [silk] Failure of Sociology in India? To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > thanks carol for the post. > yes, i have been waiting to get my hands on this volume. > and of late, Permanent Black has been coming out with so many > interesting titles... > i just wish they update their website to include more of the past > volumes.http://permanent-black.blogspot.com/ > i thought that this site gives a better feel for the titles than > the catalogue > > they had a slim volume on South Asian scholars in the west [1] - which > was more of a collection of personal recollections by scholars like > Appadurai, Gyan Prakash, Partha Chatterjee, tracing their own > intellectual history and how they see their engagement with the > "western academia". so though they were not strictly academic papers, > they nevertheless gave you a sense of how these practitioners have > framed their engagement with their respective discipline - history, > anthropology, cultural studies. > > [1] At Home in Diaspora : South Asian Scholars and the West > by Jackie Assayag and Veronique Benei > http://www.biblio.com/details.php?dcx=7349674&aid=frg > > > On Dec 12, 2007 1:16 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, from the resident sociologist on silklist. > > > > Shiv is quite correct -- sociology is a tired, underdeveloped, > nelected, and largely irrelevant discipline in India, despite the > fact that (I think) it produces more PhDs than any other. There > are many reasons for this, and I would not like to bore members > with a long discussion of these. It has to do with the history of > the discipline in India, institutional problems, and many others. > The language problem is also acute -- most of the 'good' sociology > is carried out in English, with little link to debates going on in > regional/ Indian languages. > > > > But there are nonetheless some sociologists around who are doing > relevant and interesting work (in a few good centres such as DU > and JNU), and who are also concerned about this problem -- hence > the frequent lamentations from sociologists themselves about the > state of the discipline. (To its credit, sociology is probably the > most reflexive discipline around; we do a lot of navel gazing.) > And quite a few sociologists do actually carry out important > policy-related research, sit on government committees, submit > reports on current issues (never read!) and so on. But there is > much more that needs to be done. > > > > There is some research funding available from ICSSR and others > bodies, even Tatas and others do cough up money sometimes; but > most of us seek outside sources of funding (ie, outside of India). > > > > Another problem is that many of the best social scientists have > flown the coop, and teach in western universities (I am a reverse > migrant!), so we are not reproducing outselves. But now we see > some returnees, coming back as fresh PhDs or with a few years of > teaching -- this may change the picture ... > > > > A perennial conundrum for Indian sociology has been figuring out > the correct frame of analysis; if all the theories and categories > of sociology are imported from the West, how can they help us to > undestand India? On the other hand, it has tended to be insular, > looking only at India, without a sufficient comparative > perspective. An unresolved debate ... and there are many others. > > > > Thanks to Shiv for highlighting this issue, since the general > public, including intellectuals, seem to think that disciplines > like sociology are quite irrelevant and unimportant. With the > unbridled faith in science, technology and economic growth that > seems to have gripped the middle classes, some critical reflection > on India's current development trajectory is in order -- which is > precisely what sociologists (and others) are supposed to be good > at. Yet they do not often enough air their views, or their > knowledge, in public. > > > > May I recommend a recently published book -- Anthropology in the > East edited by Patricia Uberoi et al (Permanent Black, 2007). It's > a collection of articles about important figures in the history of > Indian sociology / social anthropology, and one of its purposes > was to make a beginning at trying to understand the reasons for > the sorry state of the discipline, by tracing its history. I also > have a piece in this volume, in which I try to understand certain > aspects of the discipline by looking at the work of one of the > founding 'fathers', GS Ghurye. But you might find such
Re: [silk] Failure of Sociology in India?
Hello, from the resident sociologist on silklist. Shiv is quite correct -- sociology is a tired, underdeveloped, nelected, and largely irrelevant discipline in India, despite the fact that (I think) it produces more PhDs than any other. There are many reasons for this, and I would not like to bore members with a long discussion of these. It has to do with the history of the discipline in India, institutional problems, and many others. The language problem is also acute -- most of the 'good' sociology is carried out in English, with little link to debates going on in regional/ Indian languages. But there are nonetheless some sociologists around who are doing relevant and interesting work (in a few good centres such as DU and JNU), and who are also concerned about this problem -- hence the frequent lamentations from sociologists themselves about the state of the discipline. (To its credit, sociology is probably the most reflexive discipline around; we do a lot of navel gazing.) And quite a few sociologists do actually carry out important policy-related research, sit on government committees, submit reports on current issues (never read!) and so on. But there is much more that needs to be done. There is some research funding available from ICSSR and others bodies, even Tatas and others do cough up money sometimes; but most of us seek outside sources of funding (ie, outside of India). Another problem is that many of the best social scientists have flown the coop, and teach in western universities (I am a reverse migrant!), so we are not reproducing outselves. But now we see some returnees, coming back as fresh PhDs or with a few years of teaching -- this may change the picture ... A perennial conundrum for Indian sociology has been figuring out the correct frame of analysis; if all the theories and categories of sociology are imported from the West, how can they help us to undestand India? On the other hand, it has tended to be insular, looking only at India, without a sufficient comparative perspective. An unresolved debate ... and there are many others. Thanks to Shiv for highlighting this issue, since the general public, including intellectuals, seem to think that disciplines like sociology are quite irrelevant and unimportant. With the unbridled faith in science, technology and economic growth that seems to have gripped the middle classes, some critical reflection on India's current development trajectory is in order -- which is precisely what sociologists (and others) are supposed to be good at. Yet they do not often enough air their views, or their knowledge, in public. May I recommend a recently published book -- Anthropology in the East edited by Patricia Uberoi et al (Permanent Black, 2007). It's a collection of articles about important figures in the history of Indian sociology / social anthropology, and one of its purposes was to make a beginning at trying to understand the reasons for the sorry state of the discipline, by tracing its history. I also have a piece in this volume, in which I try to understand certain aspects of the discipline by looking at the work of one of the founding 'fathers', GS Ghurye. But you might find such a tome rather boring! Carol - Original Message - From: shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:15 pm Subject: [silk] Failure of Sociology in India? To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > I don't mean to hurt anyone, although it is possible that people > may feel > hurt. > > I apologize in advance for any hurt I may cause as I post > opinions. > > What I write below are OPINIONS. Not research findings. > > Using Google it is easy to find references that point to the > failure of > Sociology in India. One paper spoke of sociology in India being a > "tired" > specialty. Another spoke of failure to address really big issues. > > My life revolves around talking to people and hearing their > innermost secrets > and I am faced with a whole lot of questions. Sometimes, answers > to those > questions seem come by chance when I am reading Western > literature. At other > times people make serendipitous observations that seem to have > truth in them > > I tend to think that India has a very narrow base of scholarship. > In the last > 60 years the entire country has rushed headlong into technical > education and > the humanities have been badly neglected. Day to day issues > affecting Indian > society are not addressed at all by the miniscule body of Indian > sociologists. Some questions have no answers except the chance > observations > by Western sociologists studying India and Indians. Neither the > government > nor corporate bodies come forward as far as I can tell to fund > research in > departments of sociology, and I suspect that the little sociology > there is in > India is funded by meager grants from some NGO or the other. I > don't really > know for sure. >
Re: [silk] Contacts
Really really sorry I have no idea how this got to silk, it was a personal mail to me from a non-member, how did the silk id get into this when I hit 'reply'. All you techies, figure it out. I am writing from vsnl webmail which seems to always create problems.. carol - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:35 am Subject: Re: [silk] Contacts To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > Hi Rasmus, sorry I didn't get around to doing this earlier, altho > had sent two intro's to you, hope you got them. I am out of India > this week, will do this as soon as I get back to office on Tuesday, > > yrs > Carol Carol Upadhya Visiting Associate Fellow National Institute of Advanced Studies Indian Institute of Science Campus Bangalore-560 012 phone: 080-23604351 cell: 93413-11453 --- Begin Message --- Hi Rasmus, sorry I didn't get around to doing this earlier, altho had sent two intro's to you, hope you got them. I am out of India this week, will do this as soon as I get back to office on Tuesday, yrs Carol - Original Message - From: Rasmus Lema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:22 am Subject: Contacts To: Carol Upadhya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear Carol, > > Please, can you send the contacts of the firms that we talked > about? I > have used up all of my own now (with an unsatisfactory result). > > Hope to see you soon. > > Best wishes, > > Rasmus > > Carol Upadhya wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Rasmus Lema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Carol Upadhya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:13 PM > > Subject: Re: Coding culture film series on the IT industry in INDIA > > > > > > > >> Thanks. How about 1.30 PM? > >> > >> Rasmus > >> > >> Carol Upadhya wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Rasmus, do let me know what time on Thursday, > >>> > >>> Directions are pasted below, > >>> > >>> Rgds, > >>> Carol > >>> > >>> Tell the driver you want to go to IISc campus (Tata Institute) via > >>> > > Mekhri > > > >>> Circle. > >>> > >>> At Mekhri Circle there is an underpass, you don't go down the > underpass>>> > > but > > > >>> take a left turn there. > >>> > >>> Continue on that road (CV Raman Rd) thru a signal; soon after > the signal > >>> there will be a gate on your right (look for a black > transformer on the > >>> right, the gate comes soon after that); this is IISc gate. > Enter and > >>> > > tell > > > >>> them you are going to NIAS. Go straight down till the road > ends in a T > >>> junction, turn left. When that road ends, turn right; again a > T-junction > >>> turn left (there will be a sign for NIAS).Go to the end of > that road, > >>> > > there > > > >>> will be a gate in front of you but don't exit the gate, but > turn right > >>> > > into > > > >>> the dirt road just before the gate (there are signs for NIAS > at each > >>> turning). Enter the gate and look for the Reception in the > building on > >>> > > your > > > >>> right. Give me a call from there on my cell, or ask for me, my > extension>>> > > is > > > >>> 267. > >>> > >>> (there is another route to IISc, incase the driver is too > independent>>> > > and > > > >>> goes that way, he will probably enter from a different gate, > but you can > >>> still ask the security there for directions to NIAS, once > you're inside > >>> > > IISc > > > >>> campus it is easy. If you're outside the campus it's easy to > get lost! > >>> > >>> yours, > >>> > >>> Carol > >>> > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Rasmus Lema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "Carol Upadhya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:12 PM > >>> Subject: RE: Coding culture film series on the IT industry in > INDIA>>> > >>> > >>> Carol, > >>> > >>> I am here in Bangalore now. I am based at IIM on Bannerghatta > Road. We > >>> > > leave > > > >>> in a flat nearby. (I am here with my with my wife and children > >>> > > (approching > > > >>> three and five years of age)). > >>> > >>> I think we should get together at some point to catch up. I am > looking>>> foeard to hearing more about your project. I will be > happy to come to > >>> > > IIsc > > > >>> and get a chance to see the place (I was there very briefly > last time). > >>> > >>> I am part of an international research team funded by the > Volkswagen>>> Foundation. We are looking at the changing location > of innovative > >>> capabilities across developed/developing country divides (See > the link > >>> below). > >>> So I am in Bangalore to do some IT-related research for this > purpose.>>> Eventually this should feed into my Ph.d. > >>> > >>> See you soon. Best wishes, > >>> > >>> Rasmus > >>> > >>> *** > >>> Visiting Scholar, Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore > >>> Mobile: 99 00 10 60 46 > >>> Office: 080 – 2699 3740 > >>> Home: 080 – 4150 7835
Re: [silk] Fwd: NIAS-IDPAD study report
I plan to produce a much shorter version of the report for wider circulation, including in hard copy, but that might take some time. At this length, I assume that few people will actually want to read it. Carol ps-- There is a new book on IT by A. Aneesh called Virtual Migration (I think) -- quite a good account of bodyshopping and 'online software labour', based on his PhD work a few years ago. It would be nice for insiders to read such work and comment. He has used the metaphor of the 'code' and programming perhaps too extensively to model contemporary life in general, but it's an interesting argument. > sastry wrote [at 09:39 AM 9/25/2006] : > > >Udhay - IIRC the original link that you posted was on Arachnis. > If and when I > >decide to post the link elsewhere - there is a possibility that > it may > >produce a largish number of hits and may tax bandwidth. That is > why my > >"permisson to link" message was sent to silk Is that OK > > Bharath maintains the Arachnis server. I think it should be OK as > of > now. (Bharath?) > > If the number of hits grows too large we have the option of > removing the file. > > Udhay > -- > ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com)) > > > - Original Message - From: Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:13 am Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: NIAS-IDPAD study report > sastry wrote [at 09:39 AM 9/25/2006] : > > >Udhay - IIRC the original link that you posted was on Arachnis. > If and when I > >decide to post the link elsewhere - there is a possibility that > it may > >produce a largish number of hits and may tax bandwidth. That is > why my > >"permisson to link" message was sent to silk Is that OK > > Bharath maintains the Arachnis server. I think it should be OK as > of > now. (Bharath?) > > If the number of hits grows too large we have the option of > removing the file. > > Udhay > -- > ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com)) > > > Carol Upadhya Visiting Associate Fellow National Institute of Advanced Studies Indian Institute of Science Campus Bangalore-560 012 phone: 080-23604351 cell: 93413-11453
Re: [silk] Contacts
Hi Rasmus, sorry I didn't get around to doing this earlier, altho had sent two intro's to you, hope you got them. I am out of India this week, will do this as soon as I get back to office on Tuesday, yrs Carol - Original Message - From: Rasmus Lema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:22 am Subject: Contacts To: Carol Upadhya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear Carol, > > Please, can you send the contacts of the firms that we talked > about? I > have used up all of my own now (with an unsatisfactory result). > > Hope to see you soon. > > Best wishes, > > Rasmus > > Carol Upadhya wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Rasmus Lema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Carol Upadhya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:13 PM > > Subject: Re: Coding culture film series on the IT industry in INDIA > > > > > > > >> Thanks. How about 1.30 PM? > >> > >> Rasmus > >> > >> Carol Upadhya wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Rasmus, do let me know what time on Thursday, > >>> > >>> Directions are pasted below, > >>> > >>> Rgds, > >>> Carol > >>> > >>> Tell the driver you want to go to IISc campus (Tata Institute) via > >>> > > Mekhri > > > >>> Circle. > >>> > >>> At Mekhri Circle there is an underpass, you don't go down the > underpass>>> > > but > > > >>> take a left turn there. > >>> > >>> Continue on that road (CV Raman Rd) thru a signal; soon after > the signal > >>> there will be a gate on your right (look for a black > transformer on the > >>> right, the gate comes soon after that); this is IISc gate. > Enter and > >>> > > tell > > > >>> them you are going to NIAS. Go straight down till the road > ends in a T > >>> junction, turn left. When that road ends, turn right; again a > T-junction > >>> turn left (there will be a sign for NIAS).Go to the end of > that road, > >>> > > there > > > >>> will be a gate in front of you but don't exit the gate, but > turn right > >>> > > into > > > >>> the dirt road just before the gate (there are signs for NIAS > at each > >>> turning). Enter the gate and look for the Reception in the > building on > >>> > > your > > > >>> right. Give me a call from there on my cell, or ask for me, my > extension>>> > > is > > > >>> 267. > >>> > >>> (there is another route to IISc, incase the driver is too > independent>>> > > and > > > >>> goes that way, he will probably enter from a different gate, > but you can > >>> still ask the security there for directions to NIAS, once > you're inside > >>> > > IISc > > > >>> campus it is easy. If you're outside the campus it's easy to > get lost! > >>> > >>> yours, > >>> > >>> Carol > >>> > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: "Rasmus Lema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "Carol Upadhya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:12 PM > >>> Subject: RE: Coding culture film series on the IT industry in > INDIA>>> > >>> > >>> Carol, > >>> > >>> I am here in Bangalore now. I am based at IIM on Bannerghatta > Road. We > >>> > > leave > > > >>> in a flat nearby. (I am here with my with my wife and children > >>> > > (approching > > > >>> three and five years of age)). > >>> > >>> I think we should get together at some point to catch up. I am > looking>>> foeard to hearing more about your project. I will be > happy to come to > >>> > > IIsc > > > >>> and get a chance to see the place (I was there very briefly > last time). > >>> > >>> I am part of an international research team funded by the > Volkswagen>>> Foundation. We are looking at the changing location > of innovative > >>> capabilities across developed/developing country divides (See > the link > >>> below). > >>> So I am in Bangalore to do some IT-related research for this > purpose.>>> Eventually this should feed into my Ph.d. > >>> > >>> See you soon. Best wishes, > >>> > >>> Rasmus > >>> > >>> *** > >>> Visiting Scholar, Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore > >>> Mobile: 99 00 10 60 46 > >>> Office: 080 – 2699 3740 > >>> Home: 080 – 4150 7835 > >>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> DPhil Researcher, Institute of Development Studies, > >>> University of Sussex, BN1 9RE, UK > >>> Office: +44 (0) 1273 678628 (direct) > >>> Mobile: +44 (0) 7767 712183 > >>> Fax: +44 (0) 1273 621202 > >>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> Short project description: > >>> http://www.ids.ac.uk/ids/global/projects/volkswagenproject.html > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: Carol Upadhya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: Wed 5/10/2006 11:30 > >>> To: Rasmus Lema > >>> Cc: > >>> Subject: Re: Coding culture film series on the IT industry in > INDIA>>> > >>> Hi Rasmus, good to hear from you, do give a call when you are > here. Our > >>> project reports are also getting finalised which I'll give you > when you > >>> come. > >>> > >>> best regards, > >>> Carol > >>> > >>>
Re: [silk] Fwd: NIAS-IDPAD study report
sorry this mail was meant for Sastry and not the whole list, carol - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:25 am Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: NIAS-IDPAD study report To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > Hi Sastry, yes do feel free to post it wherever. Carol Upadhya Visiting Associate Fellow National Institute of Advanced Studies Indian Institute of Science Campus Bangalore-560 012 phone: 080-23604351 cell: 93413-11453
Re: [silk] Fwd: NIAS-IDPAD study report
Hi Sastry, yes do feel free to post it wherever. Needless to say we have already gotten backlash from some in the IT industry for some of our conclusions, but they tend to misinterpret our intent. It is not even an argument for reservations, but certainly one for thinking creatively about social policy, since the industry is so keen on being seen as socially conscious. Am currently in Thailand and will get back to you later in more detail, rgds, Carol - Original Message - From: sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:36 am Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: NIAS-IDPAD study report To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > I finished reading it today - 175 pages minus the refs. > > It is a remarkable study that confirms many of the things that > were > "suspected" but not documented in a study. There are at least a > few new > things I have learned from teh study. > > Perhaps the most surprising conclusion I have gleaned is that > "reservation" in > private IT industry jobs may be the only way of bringing in at > least some of > vast numbers of India's "traditionally backward" classes into the > new > economy. > > There is a lot to chew on here. > > Is it OK if I post the link to the study in other fora where it > may be > relevant? > > shiv > > > > On Tue September 12 2006 10:09 pm, sastry wrote: > > Hmm - a fantastic study. I have quickly (and cursorily, I > guess) raced > > through 101 of 195 pages. Thanks > > > > shiv > > > > On Tue September 12 2006 8:08 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > > Forwarded with permission. This report is the final output of > Carol's> > 2+ year study on the Indian IT/BPO scene. > > > > > > The report is available at http://silk.arachnis.com/anthro/ > > > > > > Please feel free to discuss your thoughts onlist. :) > > > > > > Udhay > > > > > > From: "Carol Upadhya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >Subject: NIAS-IDPAD study report > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:48:45 +0530 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear friend, > > > > > > > >Thanks for all your inputs at various stages of our IDPAD > research> > >project on IT. I am sending as attached pdf file the > final project > > > >report. We do look forward to your feedback, > > > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > > > >Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dr. Carol Upadhya > > > >Fellow, Sociology and Social Anthropology > > > >National Institute of Advanced Studies > > > >Indian Institute of Science Campus > > > >Bangalore 560012 > > > >India > > > - Original Message - From: sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:36 am Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: NIAS-IDPAD study report > I finished reading it today - 175 pages minus the refs. > > It is a remarkable study that confirms many of the things that > were > "suspected" but not documented in a study. There are at least a > few new > things I have learned from teh study. > > Perhaps the most surprising conclusion I have gleaned is that > "reservation" in > private IT industry jobs may be the only way of bringing in at > least some of > vast numbers of India's "traditionally backward" classes into the > new > economy. > > There is a lot to chew on here. > > Is it OK if I post the link to the study in other fora where it > may be > relevant? > > shiv > > > > On Tue September 12 2006 10:09 pm, sastry wrote: > > Hmm - a fantastic study. I have quickly (and cursorily, I > guess) raced > > through 101 of 195 pages. Thanks > > > > shiv > > > > On Tue September 12 2006 8:08 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > > Forwarded with permission. This report is the final output of > Carol's> > 2+ year study on the Indian IT/BPO scene. > > > > > > The report is available at http://silk.arachnis.com/anthro/ > > > > > > Please feel free to discuss your thoughts onlist. :) > > > > > > Udhay > > > > > > From: "Carol Upadhya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >Subject: NIAS-IDPAD study report > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:48:45 +0530 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear friend, > > > > > > > >Thanks for all your inputs at various stages of our IDPAD > research> > >project on IT. I am sending as attached pdf file the > final project > > > >report. We do look forward to your feedback, > > > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > > > >Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dr. Carol Upadhya > > > >Fellow, Sociology and Social Anthropology > > > >National Institute of Advanced Studies > > > >Indian Institute of Science Campus > > > >Bangalore 560012 > > > >India > > > Carol Upadhya Visiting Associate Fellow National Institute of Advanced Studies Indian Institute of Science Campus Bangalore-560 012 phone: 080-23604351 cell: 93413-11453
Re: [silk] Calling Carol and others
The study we have been conducting at NIAS is looking at this question among others, but we don't have any definitive 'results' - at least nothing written up - as yet. What little has been published on this to date is not very good, the rest is just media type hearsay. Would be interested in looking at this debate you mentioned, tho, if you could forward some of it to me directly. I will of course be happy to share our reports etc as and when they are ready. At the moment I am on go-slow due to some health problems and am in Bombay for treatment, but hope to pick up the threads of the work soon. Carol - Original Message - From: sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:33 am Subject: [silk] Calling Carol and others > I find that there is a raging discussion on my medical school > alumini forum > about how call centers in India are (or are not) transforming > India socially. > > I immediately thought of Carol and others on this list who I > suspect may have > actually studied some of these things. > > Are there any resources that you know of that could perhaps throw > light on the > "Societal transformative potential of call centers in India" - so > to speak? > > shiv > > > Carol Upadhya Fellow, National Institute of Advanced Studies Indian Institute of Science Campus Bangalore-560 012 phone: 23604351 cell: 37311453
