Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-21 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Invest in automating the installation. Have someone figure out how
 things like cfengine could be used to do automated installations. If
 the desktops and laptops your company is using are diverse, expect
 more troubles. Uniformity in hardware makes such roll out easier.

Yeah. Having a vetted 'recipe' for the kind of installations and
getting a plug_into_the_network and get_your_hardware_installed would
save you a large number on aspirins.

 Figure out if you are going to keep your 100 computers up with all
 upstream package changes or whether you don't mind lagging by a few
 months and having more controlled (and tested) roll out of selected
 and vetted changes.

That's the LTS part isn't it ?

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[silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Gautam John
So I've been using Ubuntu on my machine at work and the team I manage
all use Ubuntu - the rest of the organization seems to wonder why I
never have virus problems and have seen that the basics an office
computer requires, browser + office suite, is available on Ubuntu and
we're considering migrating everyone to Ubuntu. Some 50 desktops and
50 laptops.

Would anyone have advice? A manual? Guidelines?

(And yes, other distro's might be better but this is the only one I'm
comfortable using...)

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Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Gautam John gkj...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I've been using Ubuntu on my machine at work and the team I manage
 all use Ubuntu - the rest of the organization seems to wonder why I
 never have virus problems and have seen that the basics an office
 computer requires, browser + office suite, is available on Ubuntu and
 we're considering migrating everyone to Ubuntu. Some 50 desktops and
 50 laptops.

 Would anyone have advice? A manual? Guidelines?

You could ask on the ubuntu-india mailing list(s) to begin with. There
are the standard manuals/guides on System Deployment and stuff on the
ubuntu wiki, but you probably have been there.

 (And yes, other distro's might be better but this is the only one I'm
 comfortable using...)

Heh :)


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Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Gautam John
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:

 You could ask on the ubuntu-india mailing list(s) to begin with. There
 are the standard manuals/guides on System Deployment and stuff on the
 ubuntu wiki, but you probably have been there.

I have not. I shall look.

Thanks!

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Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Indranil Das Gupta
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Gautam John gkj...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
 sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:

 You could ask on the ubuntu-india mailing list(s) to begin with. There
 are the standard manuals/guides on System Deployment and stuff on the
 ubuntu wiki, but you probably have been there.

The biggest stumbling block I've seen in the desktop migrations I have
done are :

a) MS Excel spreadsheets with macros and use of collaborative workgroup features

b) Peripherals - Scanners / Some of the printers / some webcams, WiFi
dongles / PCI cards using prop. stuff

c) MS-Access and VB apps

d) Intranet sites that use ActiveX control or EOT web fonts

e) MS-Exchange servers used with Outlook's Calendering / collab stuff

So if you are not majorly into the above or have parallel systems in
place you should be good to go

cheers
-indra



Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Gautam John
Thanks Indranil.

 The biggest stumbling block I've seen in the desktop migrations I have
 done are :

 a) MS Excel spreadsheets with macros and use of collaborative workgroup 
 features

Don't use that much - we're a small non-profit.

 b) Peripherals - Scanners / Some of the printers / some webcams, WiFi
 dongles / PCI cards using prop. stuff

Yes but we're lucky because we use HP printers and those are well supported.

 c) MS-Access and VB apps

Nope.

 d) Intranet sites that use ActiveX control or EOT web fonts

No to the first but yes to the second. As in, we do a lot of indic
language content work.

 e) MS-Exchange servers used with Outlook's Calendering / collab stuff

Nope. We use Google Apps for this.

What about running Tally in a Virtual Box?


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Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Raj Shekhar

Gautam John wrote:


Would anyone have advice? A manual? Guidelines?


If you are in Delhi or NCR region, get onto the Delhi LUG mailing list 
and post your question there.  Most likely, you will be get a response 
from Sudev Brar, who was instrumental in moving his entire company to 
Linux. He first made a group of influential people in his company, who 
were willing to experiment around, and migrated them to Linux.  This 
gave them an idea of what the stumbling blocks are.  These people then 
moved back to their own group and helped others in their transition to 
Linux.


They adopted LTSP - one powerful box with dumb terminals connected to it.

IIRC, they had some problem in migrating their accounting software.

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Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Indranil Das Gupta
Hi Gautam,

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Gautam John gkj...@gmail.com wrote:

 d) Intranet sites that use ActiveX control or EOT web fonts

 No to the first but yes to the second. As in, we do a lot of indic
 language content work.

Moving towards Unicode and OTF along with the Web Fonts in CSS3
standards might be the way to go ahead.

 What about running Tally in a Virtual Box?

multi-user version or standalone single user?

-indra



Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Gautam John
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Raj Shekhar spa...@rajshekhar.net wrote:

 If you are in Delhi or NCR region, get onto the Delhi LUG mailing list and

I'm in Bangalore but I will mail them to see what advice I can get.

Thanks!

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Re: [silk] Migrating an organization to FLOSS

2009-01-20 Thread Gautam John
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Indranil Das Gupta indr...@gmail.com wrote:

 What about running Tally in a Virtual Box?

 multi-user version or standalone single user?

Multi, unfortunately. But can the server be on an XP box and the
clients on a virtual box?


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