Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-15 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote:

 Well - if its the same IP? Open access point say. Or a compromise of her
 pc
 / laptop?



Facebook doesnt seem to use SSL for a lot of stuff maybe its
someone at her work place ... or someone she knows.

ashok



Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-15 Thread Udhay Shankar N
ashok _ wrote, [on 4/15/2009 1:19 PM]:

 Facebook doesnt seem to use SSL for a lot of stuff maybe its
 someone at her work place ... or someone she knows.

I use the following Greasemonkey [1] script [2] to force secure
connections on facebook, banking sites, gmail, c.

However, none of these will protect against someone who has access to
your computer - either via a trojan, or physical access (maybe a
co-worker who walks up to your cube while your PC has carelessly been
left unlocked)

Udhay

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748
[2] http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/29090
-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



[silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda

Does anyone here know how to get the attention of Facebook's management?

Do you recall the Pink Chaddi Campaign coordinated via Facebook? It  
doesn't exist anymore.


Or, it does, but Facebook doesn't want you to access it. Here's a link  
to the group. Try accessing it, you'll get redirected to the home page:


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49641698651

Just a week ago, Mark Zuckerberg posted to the Facebook blog,  
highlighting the campaign as a notable use of the platform:


http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=72353897130

From the protests against the Colombian FARC, a 40-year old  
terrorist organization, to fighting oppressive, fringe groups in  
India, people use Facebook as a platform to build connections and  
organize action.


Three days later, Nisha Susan, the campaign's coordinator, found her  
Facebook account suspended. She had already spent weeks talking to  
Facebook support over the group formerly known as The Consortium of  
Pubgoing, Loose, and Forward Women, since mysteriously renamed to A  
good bong is a dead bong along with assorted death and rape threats  
turning up in its description. Today Facebook won't let you look at  
the group either.


What the heck happened? It got hacked, plain and simple.

Facebook Support insists Nisha isn't keeping her account secure. I've  
looked it over for her, as have others, who've examined her computer  
thoroughly and even moved her to a Linux box. None of these measures  
stopped the continuing defacement of the group. FB Support has  
responded with requests to fill out forms describing what's going on,  
followed by silence.


There is only one inescapable conclusion to this: Facebook is insecure  
and they don't want to admit it.


There's been only one mainstream media mention of this, in the Hindu  
yesterday: http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/14/stories/2009041459890400.htm


I doubt Facebook cares about what the Hindu says. How does one get  
their attention?



--
Kiran Jonnalagadda
http://jace.seacrow.com/




Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 01:18, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote:
 Does anyone here know how to get the attention of Facebook's management?

 Do you recall the Pink Chaddi Campaign coordinated via Facebook? It doesn't
 exist anymore.

 Or, it does, but Facebook doesn't want you to access it. Here's a link to
 the group. Try accessing it, you'll get redirected to the home page:

 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49641698651

 Just a week ago, Mark Zuckerberg posted to the Facebook blog, highlighting
 the campaign as a notable use of the platform:

 http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=72353897130

 From the protests against the Colombian FARC, a 40-year old terrorist
 organization, to fighting oppressive, fringe groups in India, people use
 Facebook as a platform to build connections and organize action.

 Three days later, Nisha Susan, the campaign's coordinator, found her
 Facebook account suspended. She had already spent weeks talking to Facebook
 support over the group formerly known as The Consortium of Pubgoing, Loose,
 and Forward Women, since mysteriously renamed to A good bong is a dead
 bong along with assorted death and rape threats turning up in its
 description. Today Facebook won't let you look at the group either.

 What the heck happened? It got hacked, plain and simple.

 Facebook Support insists Nisha isn't keeping her account secure. I've looked
 it over for her, as have others, who've examined her computer thoroughly and
 even moved her to a Linux box. None of these measures stopped the continuing
 defacement of the group. FB Support has responded with requests to fill out
 forms describing what's going on, followed by silence.

 There is only one inescapable conclusion to this: Facebook is insecure and
 they don't want to admit it.

 There's been only one mainstream media mention of this, in the Hindu
 yesterday: http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/14/stories/2009041459890400.htm

 I doubt Facebook cares about what the Hindu says. How does one get their
 attention?

Perhaps getting the attention of BoingBoing or any other big-league
blog /  effect sites would help.  After all, the Pink Chaddi
Campaign got much link love from BB (I think it was Rishab Ghosh who
pointed it out to Cory Doctorow).



Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Kiran Jonnalagadda [15/04/09 01:18 +0530]:

Does anyone here know how to get the attention of Facebook's management?


I have a friend there who heads facebook security. He's not a contact I use
very often, certainly not for run of the mill hacked account cases for
which FB does have a process that works when used right (passwords can be
bruteforced, or if your friend logged in from a cybercafe PC with a
keylogger trojan on it, or was on an open wifi, it can be stolen that way
too..). 


This is an exception I'd say - which is why I've escalated it to him

srs



Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Dave Kumar
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.netwrote:

 Kiran Jonnalagadda [15/04/09 01:18 +0530]:

 Does anyone here know how to get the attention of Facebook's management?


 I have a friend there who heads facebook security. He's not a contact I use
 very often, certainly not for run of the mill hacked account cases for
 which FB does have a process that works when used right (passwords can be
 bruteforced, or if your friend logged in from a cybercafe PC with a
 keylogger trojan on it, or was on an open wifi, it can be stolen that way
 too..).
 This is an exception I'd say - which is why I've escalated it to him


Likewise, I sent Kiran's message to a law school friend who is part of FB's
management.

DK


Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Kiran Jonnalagadda [15/04/09 09:14 +0530]:
Facebook allows an account to be logged in from only one location at a  
time. How, then, could the vandalism have been carried out even when  
Nisha was always in control of her account? This is the point where I  
suspect Facebook's security vulnerability lies.


Well - if its the same IP? Open access point say. Or a compromise of her pc
/ laptop?



Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
 I doubt Facebook cares about what the Hindu says. How does one get their
 attention?

I call for a twitcampaign with the #facebook hashtag and a retweet request.

Most web apps today listen to what people are saying on twitter and
the response is quite fast.

Can you put up your post on a blog or should we just link to the
public archive of silklist?

Kiran



Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Priyanka Sachar
yes tweets pertaining to this may help.I also feel we could request
Scobleizer, techcrunch, Om Malik for some help regarding highlighting this
issue on their sites.

2009/4/15 Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com

  I doubt Facebook cares about what the Hindu says. How does one get their
  attention?

 I call for a twitcampaign with the #facebook hashtag and a retweet request.

 Most web apps today listen to what people are saying on twitter and
 the response is quite fast.

 Can you put up your post on a blog or should we just link to the
 public archive of silklist?

 Kiran




Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda

On 15-Apr-09, at 9:31 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

Well - if its the same IP? Open access point say. Or a compromise of  
her pc

/ laptop?


Suresh, Nisha's computer security was overseen by Karim (ex-Sarai,  
Cyber Mohalla and NLS, if you know him). Karim's a sensible sysad and  
thoroughly examined her working setup; even moved her to a different  
computer.


Nisha called me for help last Thursday. I looked around her account,  
received a warning that Facebook had just deleted an obscene image  
uploaded from her account, knocked off all her Apps, just in case one  
of them was an attack vector, received another warning of impending  
account suspension for ToS violations, changed her password for her to  
be doubly sure it was not being sniffed at her end, and agreed with  
her that we would not access her account until the next morning.


The next day, her account was suspended.

I live in Bangalore. Nisha and Karim live in Delhi. Whatever the  
attack vector was, it couldn't have been from the local computer or  
network. It had to be upstream.


Nisha's presented her side of the story here: 
http://kafila.org/2009/04/12/arise-awake-the-people-who-run-facebook/




Re: [silk] Pink Chaddi Campaign hacked on Facebook

2009-04-14 Thread Balaji Dutt
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Priyanka Sachar priyan...@gmail.comwrote:

 yes tweets pertaining to this may help.I also feel we could request
 Scobleizer, techcrunch, Om Malik for some help regarding highlighting this
 issue on their sites.


I'm a fairly lightweight twitterer compared to some luminaries on this list,
but FWIW I've kicked it off using the hashtags #pinkchaddi and
#facebookfail. More hashtag suggestions are welcome...

--
Balaji