Re: CS>oil

1999-12-18 Thread Ron
http://pharminfo.com/drugpr/olestra_pr.html
- Original Message - 
From: "D G" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>oil


> olestra?
> wazat?
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
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Re: CS>oil

1999-12-18 Thread D G
olestra?
wazat?

Dennis


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Re: CS>oil

1999-12-18 Thread Ron
What about Olestra?
;->


- Original Message -
From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: CS>oil


> I have been thinking Olive is the best bet, but tomorrow we may be told it
is an alien plot...
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net]
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 8:17 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>oil
>
> is there a veggie oil that isn"t
> toxic waste?
> i LIKE mayonaise but wanna be here
> to enjoy it.
>
> Dennis
>
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CS>Re: REFLECTIONS

1999-12-18 Thread Ascottx0x0
 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:17:54 -0500
 From: June Narber Harrison 
 **
 REFLECTIONS, DECEMBER 1999
 (authored by June Narber Harrison, unless otherwise noted)
 
 Before you call a woman a feminist, maybe you should look in
 the mirror and ask yourself if you are a sexist. Words may
 appear to fit, but look twice before you label people, because as you
 label people, you are really labeling yourself.
 (Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks)
 
 What does it say about the individual who can always try to
 control others, yet cannot seem to manage or to make their own life better?
 
 Health is not just about being disease free; it is about having a peaceful 
inner
 
 mind and a calm-quiet countenance that is with you all day long. Take time to
 breathe properly, sit up straight, stretch out every day to balance the 
body's
 energy
 fields.
 
 Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are
 great because of their passion-Martha Graham
 
 Genesis clearly tells us we are to be stewards of the Earth.
 Does that not technically make us biblical environmentalists?
 If so, we should be working to protect wildlife and natural lands
 from pollution, and over-development.
 
 Be the change you want to see in the world.-Ghandi
 
 Reality is not always what is perceived by the senses, it is what
 is perceived by the heart.
 
 I am not religious...I am spiritual. I bow down to no human created
 religion. I follow only the invisible God, known as the GREAT CREATOR.
 So, what are you?
 
 STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. Do not allow anyone to live your life for you.
 Follow your heart, listen to you mind and reason, and ask God to lead you
 in your path. JNH
 
 Husbands, have you told your wife today how beautiful she is to you?
 When was the last time you brought your wife home roses?
 Wives, have you told your husband how much you love him today?
 When was the last time you did that special something for him?
 Singles, when was the last time you told your best friend how much they mean 
to
 you?
 
 Add COLOR to your life, stop living like a blotch of gray on white paper!

~~

I don't know what any of the above has to do with CS but since we're off 
topic...
 
Things you'll NEVER hear a woman say:

1. You know, I've been complaining a lot lately. I don't blame you for 
ignoring me.

2. That was fun! When will all of your friends be over to watch porno movies 
again?

3. The new girl in my office is a stripper. I invited her over for dinner on 
Friday.

4. While you were in the bathroom, they went for it on fourth down and 
missed. If they can hold them to a field goal they'll still cover.

5. Bar food again?? Kick ass!

6. I liked that wedding even more than ours. Your ex-girlfriend has class.

7. That girl is wearing the same outfit as I am. Cool, I'm gonna go over and 
talk to her.

8. I love hearing stories about your old girlfriends. Tell me more.

9. I like using this new lawn mower so much more than the old one...what a 
wonderful Valentine's day present!

10. Let's just leave the toilet seat up all the time; then you won't have to 
mess with it anymore.

11. It's only the third quarter, you should order a couple more pitchers.

12. Honey come here! Watch me do a tequila shot off of Stephanie's bare butt!

13. I'm so happy with my new hairstyle, I don't think I'll ever change it 
again.

14. Damn! I love when my pillow smells like your cigars and scotch.

15. You passed out before brushing your teeth again, ya big silly!

16. You are so much smarter than my father.

17. If we're not going to have sex, then you have to let me watch 
Sportscenter.

Best wishes,
Andy (^_^)


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Re: CS>Anyone heard from Donna? A little grey..

1999-12-18 Thread Marsha Hallett



> Has anyone heard from Donna? She is very supportive and I talk with her
> online alot but can't find her. E mail won't go through either. I'm
worried
> about her.
> Tami M

Dear Tami, She`s fine. She has a new email address, and may be off the list
for a while.
I think she doesn`t feel gray any more.
I`m trying to talk her into getting off the cigarettes, as they WILL make
one gray, permanently and fatally... :o(
I`ll let her know you asked!
Marsha


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CS>Anyone heard from Donna? A little grey..

1999-12-18 Thread TM4480
Has anyone heard from Donna? She is very supportive and I talk with her 
online alot but can't find her. E mail won't go through either. I'm worried 
about her.
Tami M


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Re: CS>Ivan...somebody....calcium questions....

1999-12-18 Thread Vilik Rapheles
 Why anybody would want to drink glasses of [milk] is beyond me (duck!).

Dear Ivan,

  Thanks for the answers. No wonder Dr. Rheams said calcium supplementation,
the right one, was so important.

  So...why milk...ahem...

  I have experimented greatly to find a diet that works at least to
a good degree for me. What I am doing now combines info from Biobalance
by Rudolph Wiley, the glycemic index, gluten free foods, Dr. Swank's MS
diet.. all in all it is not totally where I want to be, but it is
working for me now. 

  In both Wiley's and Swank's diets nonfat dairy plays a part. 

  Wiley has two very different diets for two different blood pH types, 
and many variations in between. After MUCH trial and error I have found
I do okay on one of his diets with a bit of the other thrown in. The one
that works for me is nonfat dairy, lean white poultry and fish, fruits and
veggies and grains. No or little seeds, nuts, beans. And not some fruits
and veggies, or only at certain times of the day. 

  So...add in Swank. No dairy or meat fat. Nada. Okay.

  Glycemic index next. Choosing foods lower on the scale and eating
more often.

  Gluten free grains only. Right now quinuoa and amaranth...millet
has a high glycemic index. Just discovered buckwheat is gluten free.

  I don't drink milk, but I eat nonfat mostly organic yogurt. I eat
it in the morning on grain. I use it as a topping. Got any other
suggestions? Nuts and beans not on the Wiley diet, so no almond milk
or soymilk...

  Right now this diet is working better than anything I've tried in
a long time, but I am definitely open to improvement...

  I would love to drink raw organic goat's milk (Bernard Jenson has
a whole book raving about it) but I find it is too much fat. 

  The fats I do use are organic olive oil, avocados, and sometimes
tahini or a whole organic egg. 

~^^V^^~



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RE: CS>oil

1999-12-18 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I have been thinking Olive is the best bet, but tomorrow we may be told it is 
an alien plot...
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net]
Sent:   Saturday, December 18, 1999 8:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CS>oil

is there a veggie oil that isn"t
toxic waste?
i LIKE mayonaise but wanna be here
to enjoy it.

Dennis


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RE: CS>Ground water & rainwater--was spinning magnetizer

1999-12-18 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Wild.  How?
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Dennis Lipter [SMTP:dlip...@accesshub.net]
Sent:   Saturday, December 18, 1999 10:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Ground water & rainwater--was spinning magnetizer

Rain water is rich in MSM.

Dennis Lipter

Spiroflex wrote:
> 
> Recent comments on the list about spinning water and magnets has got me
> thinking.
> 
> I think I have observed that my lawn grows better when it is watered by
> rainfall, than when it is watered by well water --- aka ground water.  Why
> is this so? Does this suggest to you that perhaps the rainwater is more
> magnetically structured than the shallow well ground water, which is former
> rainwater filtered through some sand. My well water is drawn from sand only
> ten feet below ground level. Or is it because the rainwater contains more
> oxygen or nitrogen or what? Or does the pumping of the ground water alter
> the water and make it less suitable for the grass?
> 
> My well water is pumped by an above-the-ground pump and the water is spun
> through a cast iron pump casing with a plastic impeller before it reaches
> the grass. Thus the well water, on its way from below ground to the pump, is
> subjected to a vacuum that causes air bubbles to bubble out of the well
> water on its way from the ground to the pump while still inside the pipes.
> When the ground water is pressurized in the pump casing by the spinning
> impeller, then the air bubbles collapse.
> 
> Spiroflex
> ===
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Lipter" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
> 
> > When I researched water magnetizers on the IBM patent database, all the
> > water magnetizers of the type that clamp around pipes used alternate
> > polarities. The magnets would have the north and south poles facing each
> > other, the next set of magnets would reverse the polarities of both
> > magnets and so on. I haven't a clue as to why this is so, I am just
> > carrying forth that arrangement. Maybe in nature when water flows
> > underground it passes magnetic fields from various directions and the
> > alt polarity arrangement comes close to mimicking nature.
> >
> > Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:
> > >
> > > why do you want to alternate polarity?
> > >
> > > jd
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Douglas Haack 
> > > To: 
> > > Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
> > >
> > > >How do you mean exactly from "top to bottom"? What pattern of
> placement?
> > > >
> > > >Thankyou, and in Silvation, Douglas Haack
> > > >
> > > >Dennis Lipter wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Just bought a Krups "Midnight Cocktail"( $15.00 @ Sterns Dept. Store)
> > > >> which is a small 16 oz battery powered cocktail mixer. It is much
> like a
> > > >> blender in its operation and creates spinning vortex when filled with
> > > >> water and turned on. Take some domino sized ceramic magnets and glue
> > > >> them to the outside of the water container so they encircle the water
> > > >> top to bottom. I would use alternate polarity. The magnets could be
> > > >> doubled up for increased strength. So now you have spinning water in
> a
> > > >> strong magnetic field! The unit is battery powered by two 1.5v
> penlight
> > > >> batteries and could easily be converted to AC operation using a small
> > > >> transformer and rectifier. The momentary action on/off switch could
> also
> > > >> be supplemented with a toggle on/off switch for prolonged "spinning".
> > > >>
> > > >> Dennis Lipter
> > > >>
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CS>Fw: failure notice

1999-12-18 Thread Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
 >
>i received a suspicious e mail on both the silver and Rife lists.  i did
not
>try to open it ... the file monica.exe reminded me of melissa.  a few
>minutes later i received this virus warning.   a few hours later someone
>sent the suspicious letter to the silver list.  it starts out with a link
to
>stewart on a baby blue background.
>
>careful.
>
>jd
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Gary Hawkins 
>To: Bill Kingsbury ; rife-l...@eskimo.com
>
>Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 6:10 AM
>Subject: RE: [RF]: New Virus in Rife message - W32.NewApt.Worm noarc
>
>
>>Did anyone else receive a message with attachments like that?
>>
>>I did not.  Nor do I see any messages from loras...@sover.net.
>>Nor is such a person on the list at this moment, nor does
>>the name "Dwight Lorenz" appear in the archives anywhere over
>>the last year at least.
>>
>>Since he is not on the list, my best guess would be that the
>>rife list address was in his contacts list from the past, that
>>his system got infected, and perpetuated itself using the
>>rife list address as one of the next victims.  But the message
>>doesn't appear to have gone through to the list, so it's hard to
>>figure how it got through to anyone.
>>
>>Gary H.
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Bill Kingsbury [mailto:kings...@gte.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 7:02 PM
>>> To: rife-l...@eskimo.com
>>> Subject: [RF]: New Virus in Rife message - W32.NewApt.Worm noarc
>>>
>>>
>>> Warning --
>>>  A "Dwight Lorenz" is passing this W32.NewApt.Worm virus -
>>> this time while responding to a Rife List message
>>> Note:  "Dwight Lorenz" has NOT posted to this list since
>>> last August - if ever.
>>> Has any one else received this message, too?  Be careful !
>>> ..Bill
>>> ~
>>> - Infected Message Follows -
>>>
>>> From: Dwight Lorenz 
>>> To:   kings...@gte.net
>>> Subj: [RF]: OT: THE CELL TOWER EMF PROBLEM  noarc
>>> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:34:40 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>> >he, your lame client cant read HTML, haha.
>>> > click attachment to see some stunningly HOT stuff
>>> >
>>> >Attachment Converted: "C:\!!!COM\'ATTACH\RFOTTHEC.htm"
>>> >Attachment Converted: "C:\!!!COM\'ATTACH\monica.exe"  <---Virus
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: "Fred Langa" 
>>> Subject: [langalist] 16-Dec-99
>>>
>>> This past Wednesday, yet another worm came to light: the W32.NewApt.Worm
>>> It's so new the antivirus people are only just now developing
>>> detection and repair tools for it.  The worm will email itself out
>>> to others via
>>> Microsoft Outlook or Netscape Navigator.
>>>
>>> Symantec says:
>>>
>>>  When activated, the worm will display an error dialog and modify
>>>  the registry so the worm is reloaded each time the computer is
>>>  restarted.  The error message box will appear as [a message about
>>>  a missing DLL].
>>>
>>>  When received by email (and if you do not have an HTML capable
>>>  email client), the message body will be:
>>>
>>>   he, your lame client cant read HTML, haha.
>>>   click attachment to see some stunningly HOT stuff
>>>
>>>  Otherwise, the text will include a reference to a website and the
>>>  following message:
>>>
>>>   Hypercool Happy Year 2000 funny programs and animations..
>>>   We attached our recent animation from this
>>>   site in our mail ! Check it out!
>>>
>>>  Attached to the message will be one of the following file names:
>>>  g-zilla.exe, cooler3.exe, cooler1.exe, copier.exe, video.exe,
>>>  pirate.exe, goal1.exe, hog.exe, party.exe, saddam.exe, monica.exe,
>>>  boss.exe, farter.exe, cheeseburst.exe, panther.exe, theobbq.exe,
>>>  goal.exe, baby.exe, bboy.exe, cupid2.exe, fborfw.exe, casper.exe,
>>>  irnglant.exe, or gadget.exe
>>>
>>>  The worm will add the following registry key:
>>>   HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Command/Run/tpanew
>>>
>>>  To remove the worm from memory, remove the above registry key and
>>>  then restart. Delete all infected files.
>>>
>>> And update your anti-virus definition files; most AV vendors will have
>>> a fix for this very soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


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Re: CS>oil

1999-12-18 Thread Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
why not make your own mayo?  itz easy.   u can use olive oil or i prefer a
high oleic safflower oil (not to be confused with the high polyunsaturated
safflower oil).  you can spike it with some lecithin and flax oil if you
want something more nutritious, although i would add some vitamin E for
additional antioxidant protection.  i would also use the best quality
fertile yard eggs, instead of the aborted salmonella contaminates available
for the mass market.

jd


-Original Message-
From: D G 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 10:44 AM
Subject: CS>oil


is there a veggie oil that isn"t
toxic waste?
i LIKE mayonaise but wanna be here
to enjoy it.

Dennis


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Re: CS>Ground water & rainwater--was spinning magnetizer

1999-12-18 Thread Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
maybe the rainwater has more MSM in it.
jd


-Original Message-
From: Spiroflex 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 7:38 AM
Subject: CS>Ground water & rainwater--was spinning magnetizer


>Recent comments on the list about spinning water and magnets has got me
>thinking.
>
>I think I have observed that my lawn grows better when it is watered by
>rainfall, than when it is watered by well water --- aka ground water.  Why
>is this so? Does this suggest to you that perhaps the rainwater is more
>magnetically structured than the shallow well ground water, which is former
>rainwater filtered through some sand. My well water is drawn from sand only
>ten feet below ground level. Or is it because the rainwater contains more
>oxygen or nitrogen or what? Or does the pumping of the ground water alter
>the water and make it less suitable for the grass?
>
>My well water is pumped by an above-the-ground pump and the water is spun
>through a cast iron pump casing with a plastic impeller before it reaches
>the grass. Thus the well water, on its way from below ground to the pump,
is
>subjected to a vacuum that causes air bubbles to bubble out of the well
>water on its way from the ground to the pump while still inside the pipes.
>When the ground water is pressurized in the pump casing by the spinning
>impeller, then the air bubbles collapse.
>
>Spiroflex
>===
>- Original Message -
>From: "Dennis Lipter" 
>To: 
>Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:19 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
>
>
>> When I researched water magnetizers on the IBM patent database, all the
>> water magnetizers of the type that clamp around pipes used alternate
>> polarities. The magnets would have the north and south poles facing each
>> other, the next set of magnets would reverse the polarities of both
>> magnets and so on. I haven't a clue as to why this is so, I am just
>> carrying forth that arrangement. Maybe in nature when water flows
>> underground it passes magnetic fields from various directions and the
>> alt polarity arrangement comes close to mimicking nature.
>>
>> Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:
>> >
>> > why do you want to alternate polarity?
>> >
>> > jd
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Douglas Haack 
>> > To: 
>> > Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 1:24 PM
>> > Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
>> >
>> > >How do you mean exactly from "top to bottom"? What pattern of
>placement?
>> > >
>> > >Thankyou, and in Silvation, Douglas Haack
>> > >
>> > >Dennis Lipter wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Just bought a Krups "Midnight Cocktail"( $15.00 @ Sterns Dept.
Store)
>> > >> which is a small 16 oz battery powered cocktail mixer. It is much
>like a
>> > >> blender in its operation and creates spinning vortex when filled
with
>> > >> water and turned on. Take some domino sized ceramic magnets and glue
>> > >> them to the outside of the water container so they encircle the
water
>> > >> top to bottom. I would use alternate polarity. The magnets could be
>> > >> doubled up for increased strength. So now you have spinning water in
>a
>> > >> strong magnetic field! The unit is battery powered by two 1.5v
>penlight
>> > >> batteries and could easily be converted to AC operation using a
small
>> > >> transformer and rectifier. The momentary action on/off switch could
>also
>> > >> be supplemented with a toggle on/off switch for prolonged
"spinning".
>> > >>
>> > >> Dennis Lipter
>> > >>
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>silver.
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Re: CS>Ground water & rainwater--was spinning magnetizer

1999-12-18 Thread Dennis Lipter
Rain water is rich in MSM.

Dennis Lipter

Spiroflex wrote:
> 
> Recent comments on the list about spinning water and magnets has got me
> thinking.
> 
> I think I have observed that my lawn grows better when it is watered by
> rainfall, than when it is watered by well water --- aka ground water.  Why
> is this so? Does this suggest to you that perhaps the rainwater is more
> magnetically structured than the shallow well ground water, which is former
> rainwater filtered through some sand. My well water is drawn from sand only
> ten feet below ground level. Or is it because the rainwater contains more
> oxygen or nitrogen or what? Or does the pumping of the ground water alter
> the water and make it less suitable for the grass?
> 
> My well water is pumped by an above-the-ground pump and the water is spun
> through a cast iron pump casing with a plastic impeller before it reaches
> the grass. Thus the well water, on its way from below ground to the pump, is
> subjected to a vacuum that causes air bubbles to bubble out of the well
> water on its way from the ground to the pump while still inside the pipes.
> When the ground water is pressurized in the pump casing by the spinning
> impeller, then the air bubbles collapse.
> 
> Spiroflex
> ===
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Lipter" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
> 
> > When I researched water magnetizers on the IBM patent database, all the
> > water magnetizers of the type that clamp around pipes used alternate
> > polarities. The magnets would have the north and south poles facing each
> > other, the next set of magnets would reverse the polarities of both
> > magnets and so on. I haven't a clue as to why this is so, I am just
> > carrying forth that arrangement. Maybe in nature when water flows
> > underground it passes magnetic fields from various directions and the
> > alt polarity arrangement comes close to mimicking nature.
> >
> > Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:
> > >
> > > why do you want to alternate polarity?
> > >
> > > jd
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Douglas Haack 
> > > To: 
> > > Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
> > >
> > > >How do you mean exactly from "top to bottom"? What pattern of
> placement?
> > > >
> > > >Thankyou, and in Silvation, Douglas Haack
> > > >
> > > >Dennis Lipter wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Just bought a Krups "Midnight Cocktail"( $15.00 @ Sterns Dept. Store)
> > > >> which is a small 16 oz battery powered cocktail mixer. It is much
> like a
> > > >> blender in its operation and creates spinning vortex when filled with
> > > >> water and turned on. Take some domino sized ceramic magnets and glue
> > > >> them to the outside of the water container so they encircle the water
> > > >> top to bottom. I would use alternate polarity. The magnets could be
> > > >> doubled up for increased strength. So now you have spinning water in
> a
> > > >> strong magnetic field! The unit is battery powered by two 1.5v
> penlight
> > > >> batteries and could easily be converted to AC operation using a small
> > > >> transformer and rectifier. The momentary action on/off switch could
> also
> > > >> be supplemented with a toggle on/off switch for prolonged "spinning".
> > > >>
> > > >> Dennis Lipter
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Re: CS>Ground water & rainwater--was spinning magnetizer

1999-12-18 Thread Henry Reed
While water is in atmosphere, nitrogen dissolves in it forming
nitrites.  When it falls to the earth it is changed into nitrates by
bacteria in the soil.  The nitrates are good plant food.  See nitrogen
cycle.

Spiroflex wrote:
> 
> Recent comments on the list about spinning water and magnets has got me
> thinking.
> 
> I think I have observed that my lawn grows better when it is watered by
> rainfall, than when it is watered by well water --- aka ground water.  Why
> is this so? Does this suggest to you that perhaps the rainwater is more
> magnetically structured than the shallow well ground water, which is former
> rainwater filtered through some sand. My well water is drawn from sand only
> ten feet below ground level. Or is it because the rainwater contains more
> oxygen or nitrogen or what? Or does the pumping of the ground water alter
> the water and make it less suitable for the grass?
> 
> My well water is pumped by an above-the-ground pump and the water is spun
> through a cast iron pump casing with a plastic impeller before it reaches
> the grass. Thus the well water, on its way from below ground to the pump, is
> subjected to a vacuum that causes air bubbles to bubble out of the well
> water on its way from the ground to the pump while still inside the pipes.
> When the ground water is pressurized in the pump casing by the spinning
> impeller, then the air bubbles collapse.
> 
> Spiroflex
> ===
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Lipter" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
> 
> > When I researched water magnetizers on the IBM patent database, all the
> > water magnetizers of the type that clamp around pipes used alternate
> > polarities. The magnets would have the north and south poles facing each
> > other, the next set of magnets would reverse the polarities of both
> > magnets and so on. I haven't a clue as to why this is so, I am just
> > carrying forth that arrangement. Maybe in nature when water flows
> > underground it passes magnetic fields from various directions and the
> > alt polarity arrangement comes close to mimicking nature.
> >
> > Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:
> > >
> > > why do you want to alternate polarity?
> > >
> > > jd
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Douglas Haack 
> > > To: 
> > > Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
> > >
> > > >How do you mean exactly from "top to bottom"? What pattern of
> placement?
> > > >
> > > >Thankyou, and in Silvation, Douglas Haack
> > > >
> > > >Dennis Lipter wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Just bought a Krups "Midnight Cocktail"( $15.00 @ Sterns Dept. Store)
> > > >> which is a small 16 oz battery powered cocktail mixer. It is much
> like a
> > > >> blender in its operation and creates spinning vortex when filled with
> > > >> water and turned on. Take some domino sized ceramic magnets and glue
> > > >> them to the outside of the water container so they encircle the water
> > > >> top to bottom. I would use alternate polarity. The magnets could be
> > > >> doubled up for increased strength. So now you have spinning water in
> a
> > > >> strong magnetic field! The unit is battery powered by two 1.5v
> penlight
> > > >> batteries and could easily be converted to AC operation using a small
> > > >> transformer and rectifier. The momentary action on/off switch could
> also
> > > >> be supplemented with a toggle on/off switch for prolonged "spinning".
> > > >>
> > > >> Dennis Lipter
> > > >>
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Re: CS>Lupus

1999-12-18 Thread Trem Williams
Did anyone else get this?  I was unable to open it.  What is it?

Trem
t...@silvergen.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  To: t...@silvergen.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 6:29 PM
  Subject: CS>Lupus


   
  http://stuart.messagemates.com/index.html

   
  Hypercool Happy New Year 2000 funny programs and animations...
  We attached our recent animation from this site in our mail ! Check it out !


Re: CS while Pregnant

1999-12-18 Thread M. G. Devour
> Dick Jaffe wrote:
>
> Can anyone answer this question?
>
> > A pregnant lady with whom I work, who has been taking CS to ward off
> > colds and the flu, asked me to find out if it is safe to continue taking
> > it while pregnant.

Dick,

If you do a search of the archives (address in the footer below) on a
keyword like "pregnan" you'll see that the question has come up
before.

There is no yes/no answer for you, only anecdotes. A few folks have
stood up and said "yup, I took it and everybody turned out just
fine!" but that's all you've got. Just the opinions and experiences
of a few individuals.

If my wife were expecting and herself willing, *I* would not object
to her using CS, at least in a maintenance dose. But that's just my
feeling on the matter.

Your friend will ultimately have to make that decision for herself. I
hope others will provide additional guidance.

Be well,

Mike D.

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CS>oil

1999-12-18 Thread D G
is there a veggie oil that isn"t
toxic waste?
i LIKE mayonaise but wanna be here
to enjoy it.

Dennis


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Re: CS>WOW Marshall llink

1999-12-18 Thread June Narber Harrison
I missed the email with the link, could someone send it again?
Thanks!
June

deat...@aol.com wrote:

> Man  . . that link was some heavy duty stuff - great article - I have been
> onto the Hopi Indian, Mayan, Lost Mu, Lost Atlantis stuff for years - I have
> got some extinct books on the subject ..  .  pardon the pun, but they were
> light years ahead of us.
>
> not here on the list, but thanks for that link.
>
> jeannine
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(authored by June Narber Harrison, unless otherwise noted)

Before you call a woman a feminist, maybe you should look in
the mirror and ask yourself if you are a sexist. Words may
appear to fit, but look twice before you label people, because as you
label people, you are really labeling yourself.
(Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks)

What does it say about the individual who can always try to
control others, yet cannot seem to manage or to make their own life better?

Health is not just about being disease free; it is about having a peaceful inner

mind and a calm-quiet countenance that is with you all day long. Take time to
breathe properly, sit up straight, stretch out every day to balance the body's
energy
fields.

Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are
great because of their passion-Martha Graham

Genesis clearly tells us we are to be stewards of the Earth.
Does that not technically make us biblical environmentalists?
If so, we should be working to protect wildlife and natural lands
from pollution, and over-development.

Be the change you want to see in the world.-Ghandi

Reality is not always what is perceived by the senses, it is what
is perceived by the heart.

I am not religious...I am spiritual. I bow down to no human created
religion. I follow only the invisible God, known as the GREAT CREATOR.
So, what are you?

STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. Do not allow anyone to live your life for you.
Follow your heart, listen to you mind and reason, and ask God to lead you
in your path. JNH

Husbands, have you told your wife today how beautiful she is to you?
When was the last time you brought your wife home roses?
Wives, have you told your husband how much you love him today?
When was the last time you did that special something for him?
Singles, when was the last time you told your best friend how much they mean to
you?

Add COLOR to your life, stop living like a blotch of gray on white paper!




Re: CS while Pregnant

1999-12-18 Thread Dick Jaffe
Can anyone answer this question?

Dick Jaffe wrote:

> A pregnant lady with whom I work, who has been taking CS to ward off
> colds and the flu, asked me to find out if it is safe to continue taking
> it while pregnant.
>
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CS>Ground water & rainwater--was spinning magnetizer

1999-12-18 Thread Spiroflex
Recent comments on the list about spinning water and magnets has got me
thinking.

I think I have observed that my lawn grows better when it is watered by
rainfall, than when it is watered by well water --- aka ground water.  Why
is this so? Does this suggest to you that perhaps the rainwater is more
magnetically structured than the shallow well ground water, which is former
rainwater filtered through some sand. My well water is drawn from sand only
ten feet below ground level. Or is it because the rainwater contains more
oxygen or nitrogen or what? Or does the pumping of the ground water alter
the water and make it less suitable for the grass?

My well water is pumped by an above-the-ground pump and the water is spun
through a cast iron pump casing with a plastic impeller before it reaches
the grass. Thus the well water, on its way from below ground to the pump, is
subjected to a vacuum that causes air bubbles to bubble out of the well
water on its way from the ground to the pump while still inside the pipes.
When the ground water is pressurized in the pump casing by the spinning
impeller, then the air bubbles collapse.

Spiroflex
===
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Lipter" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer


> When I researched water magnetizers on the IBM patent database, all the
> water magnetizers of the type that clamp around pipes used alternate
> polarities. The magnets would have the north and south poles facing each
> other, the next set of magnets would reverse the polarities of both
> magnets and so on. I haven't a clue as to why this is so, I am just
> carrying forth that arrangement. Maybe in nature when water flows
> underground it passes magnetic fields from various directions and the
> alt polarity arrangement comes close to mimicking nature.
>
> Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:
> >
> > why do you want to alternate polarity?
> >
> > jd
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Douglas Haack 
> > To: 
> > Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 1:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Spinning Water Magnetizer
> >
> > >How do you mean exactly from "top to bottom"? What pattern of
placement?
> > >
> > >Thankyou, and in Silvation, Douglas Haack
> > >
> > >Dennis Lipter wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just bought a Krups "Midnight Cocktail"( $15.00 @ Sterns Dept. Store)
> > >> which is a small 16 oz battery powered cocktail mixer. It is much
like a
> > >> blender in its operation and creates spinning vortex when filled with
> > >> water and turned on. Take some domino sized ceramic magnets and glue
> > >> them to the outside of the water container so they encircle the water
> > >> top to bottom. I would use alternate polarity. The magnets could be
> > >> doubled up for increased strength. So now you have spinning water in
a
> > >> strong magnetic field! The unit is battery powered by two 1.5v
penlight
> > >> batteries and could easily be converted to AC operation using a small
> > >> transformer and rectifier. The momentary action on/off switch could
also
> > >> be supplemented with a toggle on/off switch for prolonged "spinning".
> > >>
> > >> Dennis Lipter
> > >>
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CS>WOW Marshall llink

1999-12-18 Thread DeathBH
Man  . . that link was some heavy duty stuff - great article - I have been 
onto the Hopi Indian, Mayan, Lost Mu, Lost Atlantis stuff for years - I have 
got some extinct books on the subject ..  .  pardon the pun, but they were 
light years ahead of us. 

not here on the list, but thanks for that link.

jeannine 


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Re: CS>Powerful Magnetic Healing/Growing

1999-12-18 Thread Kass
Hi Dennis,
   I'm interested in the same info.
   Kass
- Original Message -
From: Douglas Haack 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Powerful Magnetic Healing/Growing


> Dennis, How much did your self built Mag pulser cost? And where did you
get
> the schematic and parts?
>
> thanks and in Silvation yours, Doulgas Haack
>
> Dennis Lipter wrote:
>
> > I built a "Beck" type kilogauss magnetic pulse generator and had fun
> > placing steel washers in the center of the coil and hurling them clear
> > across the room.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > POTTED PLANT wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Everybody!
> > >
> > > Hy if you want to see some stuff on how powerful
> > > magnetic pulses may have a healing affect and how powerfully
> > > magnetized water can accelerate plant growth, then check out
> > >
> > > http://papimi.gr/cases/plantpic.htm
> > >
> > > They show pictures of the differences in growth of plants that
> > > were subjected to powerful magnetic pulses plus magnetized water and
> > > control plants. They also show how well the plants grow with just the
> > > magnetized water.
> > >
> > > The second generations of the "subjected" plants seem to
> > > have picked up the characteristic of the accelerated growth.
> > >
> > > Then hit the "main page" link to find out what the heck
> > > this is all about.
> > >
> > > I'll bet it turns some wheels in your heads.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net
> > >
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> > >
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Re: CS>Ivan...somebody....calcium questions....

1999-12-18 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hi there Vilik,

You wrote:

> Calcium article:
>
> This was an excellent article that I think Ivan posted. One tidbit
> from it...
>
> "The most effective form of supplementation is hydroxyapatite
(especially
>  if it is formulated with boron). This is the most natural of all
calcium
>  supplements and a complete bone food."
>
> Now...my questions. The article says:
>
> In the body's wisdom, the highest priority is to maintain the proper
> acid/alkali balance in the blood. A high protein diet of meat and
> dairy products poses a great osteoporosis risk because it makes the
> blood highly acidic. Calcium must then be extracted from the bones
in
> order to restore proper balance."
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. In BIOBALANCE, Dr Wiley claims that nonfat dairy items make the
blood
> more alkaline. He says it is dairy FAT that is acid-producing. And
Bernard
> Jenson claims that all goat milk products are alkaline.

My view is that the only redeming feature of cows milk, is the fat and
the enzymes it contains, but, now that it is next to imposible to find
unhomogonised milk, even that is denighed us. Why anybody would want
to drink glasses of it, is beyond me (duck!).

> 2. How does calcium factor in balancing blood ph? I thought that was
> more potassium I think this is a significant question, because
it
> sounds like calcium supplements should at least help balance blood
> pH even if they don't get to the bone, thus causing less calcium to
> be extracted. Yet it sounds like supplementation doesn't help.

Calcium reduces blood acidity by complexing with the acid components
and forming non-soluble solids, ie precipitating the dissolved *acid*
out of solution thereby nullifying its influence on blood pH, and must
be in the ionic Ca++ form. The trouble with this of course is that the
precipitates end up as arterial plaque, stones and calcium deposits in
the tissue, joints etc. and as the calcium is drawn from the skeletin
the bones lose density.

So the calcium, in and of itself, is not alkaline or acidic. It is a
metal which can form both alkaline and acidic compounds. Other
minerals such as sodium or potasium have the ability to displace
calcium from precipitated calcium deposits and render these water
soluble, allowing for their elimination, but these minerals are not
alkaline in and of themselves either.
Most calcium suppliments are not assimilated well into the body,
vitamins and other elements are required in the proper proportions
also. In deed, I cannot see any reason for calcium supplementation at
all, most people have more than enough calcium, it just isn't in the
places its supposed to be.

>I wonder how coral calcium ties in...which would supply both
> calcium and alkalinity

Coral calcium is the worst form of calcium supplimentation, its
alkaline content may be of some benefit, but there are better alkaline
supplements.

> ~^^V^^~

Cheers,
Ivan.




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Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)

1999-12-18 Thread Kass
Hi Robert,
   There are great concerns dealing with possible cellular changes brought
about by microwaves.  It would be safer to use hot water from the stove and
only a few min. slower.
Keep smiling,
Kass
- Original Message -
From: Robert Ratliff 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 6:59 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)


> You don't put alcohol in the eye, but it is easy to transfer the herbs
from
> alcohol to distilled water. Just add the same amount water as was alcohol,
> then heat in microwave until the volume returns to original. The alcohol
> evaporates first. It does not take long to do either.
> Robert
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Henry Reed [mailto:pj20...@home.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 2:16 PM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)
> >
> >
> > Sure that's a tincture-- made with alcohol?  What proportions are you
> > using?  And the alcohol is ok in the eye?
> >
>
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Re: CS>Christmas tree

1999-12-18 Thread Kass
I use a few drops in my cut flowers, they seem to last longer and the water
never gets smelly, no matter how long I let them go before tossing.
  Keep smiling,
  Kass
- Original Message -
From: GaryJanine 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:33 PM
Subject: CS>Christmas tree


> Awhile back I read something about an experiment with fresh cut flowers
and
> CS. I bought a real Xmas tree about 6 days ago and it didn't appear to be
> doing too well, it wasn't drinking water and a lot of needles were falling
> off(the guy at the tree lot assured me it was cut down only a few days
> ago-right!) Anyway I remembered this cut flower experiment and decided to
> try CS in the tree water-this was 2 -3 days after getting my tree. It
really
> made a difference! Now the tree is drinking about 1/2 gal or so of water a
> day(so far) and hardly any needles are falling off! Try it !
>
> Janine
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Pain Pain Pain

1999-12-18 Thread Kass
Hi,
   I have herpes (not shingles) I experienced great relief using a rife
setting of 2950 for 10 min.  Transfer factor might help pull your immune
system up as well.
Hope this helps,
 Kass
- Original Message -
From: Jason R. Eaton 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Pain Pain Pain


> Harold:
>
> I'm sorry to hear about the pain you are experiencing.  Although I have no
> REASON to expect that what I recommend will ( or will not ) work, I am
> interested in performing a study to see if it has any effect.  Please feel
> free to browse our website, and if you are interested in exploring it
> further, provided you sign some paperwork, we would be more than happy to
> supply you with the needed materials at no charge.
>
> http://www.eytonsearth.u4l.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jason R. Eaton
> Eytons' Earth
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Harold Rand 
> To: Silver 
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:11 AM
> Subject: CS>Pain Pain Pain
>
>
> > Pain, severe pain.  I must have help
> > I will probably be reprimanded for this inquiry but I am desparately
> > seeking an answer.  I have shingles (herpies zoster)  over the upper
> > right quarter of my head
> > together with the same thing infecting my right eye.  Can anyone tell me
> > how I can get some relief from the alternate medicine field? I have a
> > rife machine and silver generator and am hurting like everything
> >
> >
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>



CS>Ivan...somebody....calcium questions....

1999-12-18 Thread Vilik Rapheles
Calcium article:

This was an excellent article that I think Ivan posted. One tidbit
from it... 

"The most effective form of supplementation is hydroxyapatite (especially
 if it is formulated with boron). This is the most natural of all calcium
 supplements and a complete bone food." 

Now...my questions. The article says:

In the body's wisdom, the highest priority is to maintain the proper
acid/alkali balance in the blood. A high protein diet of meat and
dairy products poses a great osteoporosis risk because it makes the
blood highly acidic. Calcium must then be extracted from the bones in
order to restore proper balance."

Questions:

1. In BIOBALANCE, Dr Wiley claims that nonfat dairy items make the blood
more alkaline. He says it is dairy FAT that is acid-producing. And Bernard 
Jenson claims that all goat milk products are alkaline.

2. How does calcium factor in balancing blood ph? I thought that was
more potassium I think this is a significant question, because it
sounds like calcium supplements should at least help balance blood
pH even if they don't get to the bone, thus causing less calcium to
be extracted. Yet it sounds like supplementation doesn't help.

   I wonder how coral calcium ties in...which would supply both
calcium and alkalinity

~^^V^^~


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Re: CS>Re: Nellie/Milk

1999-12-18 Thread Kass
Great information!  So glad to see someone put it in terms we all can
understand.  Now maybe my friends will believe me when I warn them about
dairy products.
Keep smiling,
Kass
- Original Message -
From: Ivan Anderson 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Nellie/Milk


> Sharon,
>
> I dont think that an enzyme is required for phosphorous to appear in
> the blood, raising the pH and causing calcium to be pulled from the
> bones. The phosphorous and calcium complex is then expelled in the
> urine.
> See text and link below.
>
> Regards
> Ivan.
>
>
> THE CALCIUM DEFICIENCY MYTH
>
> When asked about the causes of osteoporosis, most people will chime in
> with "Lack of calcium". This idea is reinforced on a daily basis as
> women are reminded to drink their three glasses of milk a day and take
> their calcium supplements. Even young, healthy, non-osteoporotic women
> are paranoid about potential bone loss and take measures to shore up
> their bone strength with plenty of calcium. Fear of insufficient
> calcium has become a national obsession. Is there really a national
> calcium deficit?
>
> Since bone is largely composed of calcium, it might appear logical to
> link calcium intake with bone health. Western women are now encouraged
> to consume at least 1,000 to 1,500 mg of calcium daily. It is curious,
> however, when cross-cultural data clearly shows that in less-developed
> countries-where people consume little or no dairy products and ingest
> less total calcium-there are much lower rates of osteoporosis.33
>
> The Bantu of Africa have the lowest rates of osteoporosis of any
> culture, yet they consume from 175 to 476 mg of calcium daily. The
> Japanese average about 540 mg daily, but the early postmenopausal
> spinal fractures so common in the West are almost unheard of in Japan.
> Overall, their spinal fracture rate is one-half that of the US. All
> this is true, even though the Japanese have one of the longest life
> spans of any population. Studies of populations in China, Gambia,
> Ceylon, Surinam, Peru and other cultures all report similar findings
> of low calcium intake and low osteoporosis rates.34 Anthropologist
> Stanley Garn, who studied bone loss over a 50-year period in people in
> North and Central America, failed to find a link between calcium
> intake and bone loss.35
>
> While it is agreed upon that adequate calcium is absolutely necessary
> for development and maintenance of healthy bones, there is no one
> standard ideal calcium intake. It is also obvious from these studies
> that high calcium intake is not necessary for healthy bones.
>
> There is certainly a problem with bone health in Western cultures.
> However, other vital factors that determine the complex process of
> healthy bones must be understood. Bones are affected by: the intake of
> other bone-building nutrients; consumption of potentially
> bone-damaging substances like excess protein, salt, saturated fat and
> sugar; the use of some drugs, alcohol, caffeine and tobacco; the level
> of physical exercise; exposure to sunlight and environmental toxins;
> the impact of stress; the removal of the ovaries and uterus; and many
> factors that limit endocrine gland functioning.
>
> There are at least 18 key bone-building nutrients essential for
> optimum bone health. If one's diet is low in any of these nutrients,
> the bones will suffer. They include phosphorus, magnesium, manganese,
> zinc, copper, boron, silica, fluorine, vitamins A, C, D, B6, B12, K,
> folic acid, essential fatty acids and protein.
>
> The body uses minerals only when they are in proper balance. For
> example, girls who consume diets high in meat, soft drinks and
> processed foods which have high levels of phosphorus have been found
> to have an alarming loss of bone mass.36 Too high a ratio of
> phosphorus in relationship to calcium will cause calcium to be pulled
> out of the bones in an attempt to compensate.
>
> Scientific evidence shows unequivocally that, by themselves, calcium
> supplements just don't work.37 And contrary to popular thought,
> calcium supplementation does not reduce the risk of fracture. There is
> now evidence that a high calcium supplement level is actually
> associated with a 50 per cent increase in the risk of fracture.38
> However, as yet, there remains no proof that increasing the calcium
> intake with supplements or diet after menopause prevents fractures. In
> fact, several studies indicate that it doesn't really appear to lower
> the incidence of fractures at all. In Science (August 1978) it was
> stated the "link between calcium and osteoporosis was made on
> insufficient grounds" and that the advertisers were way out ahead of
> the scientific evidence. But a diet rich in calcium in early childhood
> and pre-menopausal years does build stronger bones, reducing risk of
> thin bones after menopause.
>
> The worst calcium supplements are bone meal, oyster shell and dolomite
> bec

Re: CS>Christmas tree

1999-12-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
I don't remember exactly what I did, but I think I used 5 ppm straight for the
initial water, then put in about an ounce of CS each time I filled it each day.

Marshall

Trem Williams wrote:

> Hi Marshall,
>
> Did you use full strength CS only?  Or did you add it to the water in the
> base?  We're trying it; starting today using 15-20 PPM full strength.
> Looking forward to a tree that lasts for a while instead of turning into a
> fire hazard or a pile of needles.
>
> Trem
> t...@silvergen.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Marshall Dudley 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 7:06 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Christmas tree
>
> >
> >
> > GaryJanine wrote:
> >
> > > Awhile back I read something about an experiment with fresh cut flowers
> and
> > > CS. I bought a real Xmas tree about 6 days ago and it didn't appear to
> be
> > > doing too well, it wasn't drinking water and a lot of needles were
> falling
> > > off(the guy at the tree lot assured me it was cut down only a few days
> > > ago-right!) Anyway I remembered this cut flower experiment and decided
> to
> > > try CS in the tree water-this was 2 -3 days after getting my tree. It
> really
> > > made a difference! Now the tree is drinking about 1/2 gal or so of water
> a
> > > day(so far) and hardly any needles are falling off! Try it !
> >
> > Yes, as I reported here about a week ago, last year when we put our
> Christmas
> > tree in CS, the needles stayed on until the middle of April, even though
> the
> > tree had been discarded in the back yard in Jan. and had been given no
> water for
> > 3 months.  An identical tree without the CS lost it's needles before Jan.
> 1 even
> > though it was in water the whole time..
> >
> > Marshall
> >
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