RE: CS>how do I make CS properly

[John Reeder]

Shannon,

My first CS generator consisted of two silver probes connected to a 9V
battery. Worked quite
well, I don't know why I quit using it and bought a $79 one. I use a couple
of tablespoons per
day (morning and evening), store in a dark bottle (glass preferably). I
increase the doseage if
I feel something coming on, but right now, if something started coming on I
probably wouldn't
recognize, it has been so long since that has happened. I use CS for
everything, sores, bumps,
eyes, sinuses, you name it. My wife is now a believer as well as one of our
good friends who used
to have constant throat infections - no more. Good luck.

John
  -Original Message-
  From: Shannon Holand [mailto:s.hol...@cablelan.net]
  Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:29 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>how do I make CS properly


  I am new to this site. A friend made me a device for making CS but his
instructions were extremely vague. Does anyone have good instructions on how
too make small amounts (amount and type of water, how long to process ( it's
just silver rods attached to alligator clips on an adapter), how to store,
length of time it can be stored for, dosage-daily?, when you feel a cold
coming on? and anything else you can think of.) I would really appreciate
any help you can give me. Thanks.
  Shannon

RE: CS>110 VDC CS

[John Reeder]

If you don't have starter, how long will it take?

-Original Message-
From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>110 VDC CS


Kevin said,
"one rather important piece of info missing in your
account is whether those 10 jars are connected in
parallel or series."

Good point. They are in parallel, so each jar receives
the same voltage. It's the current that drops, but
that's fine.

Also, someone asked why the CS starter. It's so the
brewing is finished in one hour.

Terry




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CS>Quantity CS / (Digest #274)

[jrowland]

> "I like the idea of making larger quantities at once,
> but can't quite picture your set-up. Are you using 10
> sets of wires; 1 set/jar, and somehow connecting all
> 20 wires to the wall current/rectifier? How you do
> dat?"
>
> Yes, you have it right. 10 sets of wires, with one set
> to each jar. All the positive wires attached to the
> positive wire coming from the rectifier, all the
> negative wires the same...Ground Fault Interrupter Circuit
>
> boxes in-line before the rectifier...
>
Thanks, Terry, looks good to me.
It would seem that in some instances, the CS target would be such that
the smallest possible silver particle size might be needed.  What method
of production would you use, and any idea how small a size can be had?
jr


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CS>110 VDC CS

[Terry Chamberlin]

Kevin said,
"one rather important piece of info missing in your
account is whether those 10 jars are connected in
parallel or series."

Good point. They are in parallel, so each jar receives
the same voltage. It's the current that drops, but
that's fine.

Also, someone asked why the CS starter. It's so the
brewing is finished in one hour.

Terry

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CS>how do I make CS properly

[Shannon Holand]

I am new to this site. A friend made me a device for making CS but his 
instructions were extremely vague. Does anyone have good instructions on how 
too make small amounts (amount and type of water, how long to process ( it's 
just silver rods attached to alligator clips on an adapter), how to store, 
length of time it can be stored for, dosage-daily?, when you feel a cold coming 
on? and anything else you can think of.) I would really appreciate any help you 
can give me. Thanks. 
Shannon 

Re: CS>Nebulizing CS

[Janet Lubart]

RE: CS>FliesHow many minutes at  time do you  and your children nebulize? How 
many times a day to successfully clear an infection? Does anyone know if it is 
possible to over-nebulize? How about too many days in a row? Where does all 
that CS go once it reaches the lung areas?
Thank you all so much,
Janet
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Osowiecki 
  To: Gary L. Green ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:36 AM
  Subject: CS>Nebulizing CS


  Gary,
  I have been asthmatic since birth, and like you, am very prone to infections 
in my lungs.  Through my childhood and into my adulthood, I have had chronic 
bronchitis, in addition to pnemonia at least twice a year. I was given 
antibiotics so often as a child, that I am now allergic to them...all 
of them...which is what made me seek out a natural alternative.  Since 
finding colloidal silver I no longer fear for my life when I feel illness 
coming on.  I nebulize with it and my lungs stay clear. I also use the 
nebulizer on my young children when they get a sinus or respiratory infection.  
One of my children is an immune suppressed kidney transplant in liver 
failureand I have been able to keep her out of the hospital 
numerous times by nebulizing CS with her.  In fact, I just cured her of RSV 
which is a respiratory virus that is particularly fatal in immuno-compromised 
people.  I am so thankful of CS and my nebulizer.  FYI .just 
HAD to do itI make my own CS using a very portable, inexpensive and 
convenient generator that I got from www.sunstoneherbals.com .It might be worth 
you looking into these generators for resale to your friends and patients.  It 
makes CS in small quantities ( 16 ounces of 6-8ppm per hour), but I was 
thinking in light of your issues with customs this might be a compact device 
that is easy to use that you would be able have shipped to you with little 
difficulty. It doesn't even remotely compare to the quantity that you can make 
with the silvergen, but I can tell you that the quality has suited our many 
needs over and above my expectations..and it is certainly feasible 
for someone to make CS to meet their families needs and not have to depend on 
you. It fits in a ziploc sandwich bag and I bring it with me everywhere when I 
travel.  Hospitals are our "home away from home" and I can carry it with me in 
my purse and make CS wherever we are.  

  Just my two cents,
  God Bless,
  Christiane
- Original Message - 
From: Gary L. Green 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:05 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Flies




>Since the bugs seem to like to take up residence in my lungs I'm going to 
combine CS with a nebulizer.  Anyone had any experience with this?


Again folks, thanks.
Gary>




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CS>Unidentified subject!

[Terry Chamberlin]

Someone said,
"I like the idea of making larger quantities at once,
but can't quite picture your set-up. Are you using 10
sets of wires; 1 set/jar, and somehow connecting all 
20 wires to the wall current/rectifier? How you do
dat?"

Yes, you have it right. 10 sets of wires, with one set
to each jar. All the positive wires attached to the
positive wire coming from the rectifier, all the
negative wires the same. 

I did forget to mention that I use one of those Ground
Fault Interrupter Circuit boxes in-line before the
rectifier, so if I short anything, it blows. (Burns up
the rectifier, too. Did it once.) Yes, the water is a
conducter, but the batch is done by about 25 ma.

Yes, I also don't have it set up where any children
can access it. This is not a system to be used by the
inexperienced or technologically-challenged
(fumble-fingers). But neither are the 10k-volt
systems. If a child (or adult) did something stupid
with a 10k-system, what would happen? On the other
hand, I've been shocked by 110 VAC on many occasions,
but was not injured by it. Yes, if I was standing in a
puddle...

I'll bet the system I am using is safer than any
10k-system, and considerably cheaper to assemble. I
also have seen no evidence that the 10k-system CS is
any more effective against pathogens.

I guess I am using the 'poor man's high-voltage CS
brewer'.

Terry Chamberlin
Metabolic Solutions Institute
RR1  314 Carleton Rd
Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
902-584-3810 voice
413-826-7641 fax service
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Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[CKing001]

Really?
You never used an electric coffee pot?
Water, electricity, even heat. 
Of course adult common sense IS neccessary.
Mother nature DOES weed out the gene pool.

Chuck
One tactical thermonuclear weapon can ruin your whole day.

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:01:17 -0400, "Arnold Beland" 
wrote:

>Catherine,
>
>Do you remember the Disney film "Fantasia"?  Terry and his method remind me
>on the Sorcerer's Apprentice part.
>All jokes aside, connecting directly to the Mains AC, and especially through
>a rectifier, is potentially lethal in any circumstance.  Add to that the
>ingredient of water that has purposely been made conductive and you have a
>situation in which a tragedy is almost certain to occur.
>Best Regards,
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Re: CS>New lab comparison studies regarding CS and bentonite

[Kevin Nolan]

Great results, jason. Beautifully answered my own question on the
interaction between bentonite and CS. I have made up a small batch of
hydrated bentonite clay, and decided to add a small amount of H2O2 to
hopefully ensure sterility. Seems to have worked. From now on though I will
use CS. Keep up the good work!

regards, Kevin Nolan

- Original Message -
From: "AVRA / Jason" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:09 AM
Subject: CS>New lab comparison studies regarding CS and bentonite


> Hi all,
>
> For those interested, I have recently posted a study and a commentary (
> intial drafting ) on the combination of colloidal silver with a quality
> natural bentonite on our CS Website.  While necessary work is far from
> complete, I'm very pleased with the initial results:
>
> http://silverdata.20m.com/bentoniteandsilverbacterialcomparisonstudy.html
>
> In addition, some of you may be interested in viewing our initial webpage
> drafted on our upcoming not-for-profit colloidal silver Research and
> Outreach Program ( this program will be a local program in Las Vegas,
Nevada
> and surrounding areas ).  This page has not yet been 'made public' as I'm
> still working on designing the "co-researcher" forms and the medical
> profiling forms.
>
> As the research program advances, I'm hoping to be able to compile some
very
> interesting statistics...  We're going to undertake ( somehow ) a silver
> toxicity study, a Herxheimer effect study, as well as studies of chronic
> infections and various ailments.  All results, as they become available,
> will be posted for public viewing.  I have a personal goal of documenting
> 50-100 cases to establish tentative baselines, whereby additional studies
on
> variances can then be conducted.  All of this work will likely happen very
> slowly.
>
> As results are documented and achieved, I have my eye on a few talented
> integrative MD's that I'd like to draft for oversight and study purposes.

>
> http://silverdata.20m.com/outreachandresearch.html
>
> Jason
>
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Re: CS>Arthritis

[Noel White]

One of the latest treatments for athritis is Prolotherapy === it is 90%
Effective in getting rid of the arthritis, not just relieving symptoms
as herbs do. Go to:www.prolonews.com

Noel


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Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[Kevin Nolan]

Terry - one rather important piece of info missing in your account is
whether those 10 jars are connected in parallel or series. In the first case
each jar has the full 110VAC rectified to perhaps 155VDC (if a smoothing cap
is included), whilst in the latter case the voltage is just 10% of that
value, ie around 15.5VDC each. Anyone attempting to imitate your arrangement
might get disasterous results if doing it wrong.

regards, Kevin Nolan

- Original Message -
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: CS>The ultimate CS brewer


> I felt I had to toss in my 2 cents here about CS
> production.
>
> I use 110 VDC to make my CS. It's the regular 110-volt
> wall current, run through a 110-volt TV rectifier (got
> it used from a TV repair shop for $5).
>
> I make 10-gallons per hour, not because that is a
> limit, but because I only need to do that. I could
> just as easily make 50 gallons per hour. I use ten
> 1-gallon glass pickle jars. I put 1 quart of
> pre-brewed CS into each jar, fill them up with 3
> quarts of DW. I hang 14-gauge .999 fine silver wires
> about 8" into the jar, bent over the rim to the
> outside for the alligator clips. They are spaced apart
> as far as the jars allow, about 4-1/2" apart. The wall
> current runs through a timer, which I set for one
> hour.
>
> I get crystal clear CS every time, which Old Bob's
> testing showed to be 12 ppm with almost no Tyndale
> effect. It's hard for me to imagine getting reports
> concerning the use of CS that are more amazing than
> the reports I regularly receive from my customers
> across Canada. Do I believe my CS is the best? Not
> necessarily. I believe all good CS is amazing. I
> suspect almost any electro-colloidal CS would be
> effective. (Assuming pure silver, DW and no starters
> besides some CS.)
>
> The list of health issues that I have been told
> disappeared when ingesting/applying the CS I make
> include such things as cancer, herpes (on the skin and
> in the eyes), shingles, canker sores, acne, eczema,
> psoriasis, kidney, bladder, ear, eye and sinus
> infections, warts, parasites (exiting the body in the
> stool), colds, flu, ulcers, CFS, any kind of burn, the
> list goes on and on.
>
> Is it because I use 110-VDC (or 27-VDC, or 10,000
> VAC)?
> No, it's because it's pure silver in water.
>
> Remember folks, people used to grind up silver into
> powder and drink it in wine or water, and benefit from
> it wonderfully. How much bigger is the smallest
> mechanically-ground up silver particle than the
> biggest electrically-generated silver colloid? 1,000
> times bigger? 10,000 times? A million times?
>
> I like making CS using 110 VDC because it's so simple.
> It stays clear almost indefinitely - I put a clear
> 2-quart jar of my CS in the window and left it there
> in the sun all day every day for 14-1/2 months. It
> finally obtained a very slight yellowish hue. How long
> would it have stayed clear in a dark brown bottle?
> Years? Who cares?
>
> It's also a very simple way to make as large a
> quantity of CS at a time as I want. It doesn't settle
> out, doesn't become bitter, kills bugs like crazy. But
> the reality is also this: When I was first making CS,
> I used 9-volt batteries, and I was getting the same
> amazing reports I am getting now. Even though it was
> frequently yellow or gold CS, and many times had a
> bitter, metallic taste, it was still amazingly
> effective.
>
> My point is, I don't know who has the "best" CS. No
> one else knows, either. And I think the question is
> irrelevant. Any CS that works as good as mine is as
> good as is needed, as far as I am concerned. And I
> have no doubt that there are many brands of CS as good
> as mine, perhaps even most brands. (If made properly.)
>
> So when one talks about the "Ultimate CS brewer", what
> is that in reference to? Expense? Convenience? Quality
> of CS? Complexity of operation? Cost of purchase?
> Color/taste of CS?
>
> For me, it's effectiveness against human health
> issues. And in that department, I am content.
>
> Terry Chamberlin
> Metabolic Solutions Institute
> RR1  314 Carleton Rd
> Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
> 902-584-3810 voice
> 413-826-7641 fax service
> msi...@yahoo.com
>
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Re: CS>New lab comparison studies regarding CS and bentonite

[AVRA / Jason]

Bob:

Thanks a bunch!  Yes, quite a bit of work has gone into it all...  

Of course, all criticisms, thoughts and ideas are always welcome.

Jason


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Bartell" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: CS>New lab comparison studies regarding CS and bentonite


> Jason ,. You've been working overtime on this !  Haven't you!  Nice
> work for first time around.  Very commendable.  Will comment later after
> more thorough reading of the material that you put up on this site.  The
> graphics are really good for the most part.  Well Done, Jason.
> Namaste:  Bob Bartell


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Re: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS

[Connie]

Quick, easy reminder, Revival animal health sells them, without a
script...they carry a couple models...
also the hand held set ups needed to do the treatments, and extra tubing
800 786-4751
email: revi...@mtcnet.net
www.revivalanimal.com

Connie


From: "John Osowiecki" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:37:49 -0400
To: 
Subject: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 09:40:58 -0700



Neil,
Being that I am asthmatic, I have a prescription from the doctor, and my
insurance company actually purchased it for me.  In years past many on this
list have come up with a myriad of solutions for attaining a nebulizer.
Perhaps by searching the archives under nebulizer, you will come up with
their responses. There are actually scematics to build your own (one of the
things that I lost with my hard drive), but it is in the archives.  In case
you don't know, there should be a link to the archives at the bottom of this
page.  I wish you the best in your search. I think I recall that people have
seen them on Ebay as well.   You can also try searching the internet for a
site that will sell without a script.
I hope this helps,
God Bless,
Christiane
- Original Message -
From: neilinthegar...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing CS

Dear Christiane, 
  Thanks for sharing your story.  Your experience with CS is very
encouraging and heartwarming.  My question is:  Where did you get your
nebulizer?  I have found one here in town, an electric model, but they won't
sell it to me without a prescription.
Thanks so much, 
Neil 

RE: CS>New lab comparison studies regarding CS and bentonite

[Bob Bartell]

Jason ,. You've been working overtime on this !  Haven't you!  Nice
work for first time around.  Very commendable.  Will comment later after
more thorough reading of the material that you put up on this site.  The
graphics are really good for the most part.  Well Done, Jason.
Namaste:  Bob Bartell

-Original Message-
From: AVRA / Jason [mailto:silverd...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>New lab comparison studies regarding CS and bentonite

Hi all,

For those interested, I have recently posted a study and a commentary (
intial drafting ) on the combination of colloidal silver with a quality
natural bentonite on our CS Website.  While necessary work is far from
complete, I'm very pleased with the initial results:

http://silverdata.20m.com/bentoniteandsilverbacterialcomparisonstudy.htm
l

In addition, some of you may be interested in viewing our initial
webpage
drafted on our upcoming not-for-profit colloidal silver Research and
Outreach Program ( this program will be a local program in Las Vegas,
Nevada
and surrounding areas ).  This page has not yet been 'made public' as
I'm
still working on designing the "co-researcher" forms and the medical
profiling forms.

As the research program advances, I'm hoping to be able to compile some
very
interesting statistics...  We're going to undertake ( somehow ) a silver
toxicity study, a Herxheimer effect study, as well as studies of chronic
infections and various ailments.  All results, as they become available,
will be posted for public viewing.  I have a personal goal of
documenting
50-100 cases to establish tentative baselines, whereby additional
studies on
variances can then be conducted.  All of this work will likely happen
very
slowly.

As results are documented and achieved, I have my eye on a few talented
integrative MD's that I'd like to draft for oversight and study
purposes.

http://silverdata.20m.com/outreachandresearch.html

Jason


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Re: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS

[Bobbye Stegen]

Thanks Bob,

Will make the concotion of saline/CS and get it to her in a spray bottle.

Bobbye
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Bartell" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS


> Bobbye,  Nebulizer for getting CS into lungs.  For Sinusitus,  just use
> a dropper to get it in  the nose and snort  it back and down - or a
> nasal spray bottle works even better.  We will use the nebulizers for
> pneumonia and staph infections in the lungs OK?   Namaste:  Bob
> Bartell
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bobbye Stegen [mailto:bwste...@bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:11 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Simple question. What is a nebulizer? My 93 yr old Mom who is in
> excellent health, still drives, has a chronic sinus problem for many
> years. I would like to try the nebulizer and CS. Also, would the CS
> and saline nose drops help in stead of the nebulizer or would both be
> better?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bobbye
> - Original Message - 
> From: John Osowiecki 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:37 AM
> Subject: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS
> 
> 
> Neil,
> Being that I am asthmatic, I have a prescription from the doctor, and my
> insurance company actually purchased it for me. In years past many on
> this list have come up with a myriad of solutions for attaining a
> nebulizer. Perhaps by searching the archives under nebulizer, you will
> come up with their responses. There are actually scematics to build your
> own (one of the things that I lost with my hard drive), but it is in the
> archives. In case you don't know, there should be a link to the
> archives at the bottom of this page. I wish you the best in your
> search. I think I recall that people have seen them on Ebay as well. 
> You can also try searching the internet for a site that will sell
> without a script. 
> I hope this helps,
> God Bless,
> Christiane
> - Original Message - 
> From: neilinthegar...@aol.com 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing CS
> 
> Dear Christiane, 
> Thanks for sharing your story. Your experience with CS is very
> encouraging and heartwarming. My question is: Where did you get your
> nebulizer? I have found one here in town, an electric model, but they
> won't sell it to me without a prescription. 
> Thanks so much, 
> Neil 
> 
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RE: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS

[Bob Bartell]

Bobbye,  Nebulizer for getting CS into lungs.  For Sinusitus,  just use
a dropper to get it in  the nose and snort  it back and down - or a
nasal spray bottle works even better.  We will use the nebulizers for
pneumonia and staph infections in the lungs OK?   Namaste:  Bob
Bartell

-Original Message-
From: Bobbye Stegen [mailto:bwste...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS

Hi,
 
Simple question.  What is a nebulizer?  My 93 yr old Mom who is in
excellent health, still drives, has a chronic sinus problem for many
years.  I would like to try the nebulizer and CS.  Also, would the CS
and saline nose drops help in stead of the nebulizer or would both be
better?
 
Thanks,
 
Bobbye
- Original Message - 
From: John Osowiecki 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:37 AM
Subject: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS


Neil,
Being that I am asthmatic, I have a prescription from the doctor, and my
insurance company actually purchased it for me.  In years past many on
this list have come up with a myriad of solutions for attaining a
nebulizer.  Perhaps by searching the archives under nebulizer, you will
come up with their responses. There are actually scematics to build your
own (one of the things that I lost with my hard drive), but it is in the
archives.  In case you don't know, there should be a link to the
archives at the bottom of this page.  I wish you the best in your
search. I think I recall that people have seen them on Ebay as well.  
You can also try searching the internet for a site that will sell
without a script.  
I hope this helps,
God Bless,
Christiane
- Original Message - 
From: neilinthegar...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing CS

Dear Christiane, 
   Thanks for sharing your story.  Your experience with CS is very
encouraging and heartwarming.  My question is:  Where did you get your
nebulizer?  I have found one here in town, an electric model, but they
won't sell it to me without a prescription. 
Thanks so much, 
Neil 


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RE: CS>Flies

[Bob Bartell]

Malcolm .. you devil, you!   ROTFLMAO!   Namaste:  Bob Bartell  ;-]

 

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 1:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Flies

 

Do NOT attempt to adjust the controls on your computer: WE will adjust
the controls on your computer.  Sit quietly, do not attempt to leave.
WE have ways to make you happy . . . . . . verry happy, happier than
you've ever been.  Sit quietly, watch the screen . . . . 

Wayne Fugitt wrote: 

 At 02:18 PM 04/13/2002 +0800, you wrote: 

I hate acronyms.

I hate html email.  Please turn off.


   HTML messages are beautiful on my screen.  Possibly you need to
investigate getting a mail program that will display html, 
or change your settings. 

  Wayne

CS>Arthritis

[Bob Bartell]

Received some new info and an alert from Health Sciences Institute on a
new "breakthrough"  product for arthritis.  You might want to look at
the claims and anecdotal evidence presented below.

http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/V05/W650C225/home.cfm

I am not associated with these people in any way.  This is provided only
for information exchange.Namaste:  Bob Bartell


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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V102 #271

[Neilinthegarden]

In a message dated 4/14/2002 10:48:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
byron...@mindspring.com writes:


> 
> Perhaps we are referring to an ultrasonic humidifier? It makes a nice 
> little cloud of nebulized water.
> And you can get them anywhere.
> 
> Byron
> 
> 
> 

Actually, I'm referring to a nebulizer that fits over one's mouth and nose to 
get the aerosoled substance directly into the lungs.
Neil

Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[jrowland]

> > > I make 10-gallons per hour...I use ten
> > > 1-gallon glass pickle jars. I put 1 quart of
> > > pre-brewed CS into each jar, fill them up with 3
> > > quarts of DW. I hang 14-gauge .999 fine silver wires
> > > about 8" into the jar, bent over the rim to the
> > > outside for the alligator clips. They are spaced apart
> > > as far as the jars allow, about 4-1/2" apart. The wall
> > > current runs through a timer, which I set for one
> > > hour.
>

I like the idea of making larger quantities at once, but can't quite
picture your set-up.
Are you using 10 sets of wires; 1 set/jar, and somehow connecting all 20
wires to the wall current/rectifier?  How you do dat?
Thanks,
jr



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RE: CS>H2O2 in CS

[I Anderson]

Bob,
I think you will find that USP stands for US Pharmacopeia, which is a
set of standards and processes that must be followed in order to use
the label. USP relates to purity only so far as is laid out in the
standard.

Ivan.



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From: Bob Bartell [mailto:bobbart...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2002 9:09 a.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>H2O2 in CS


Thanks Kevin.   Still think its wrong to use USP to ascribe  a level
of purity when the product contains identifiable other components -
trace amounts or otherwise.   Namaste:  Bob Bartell

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RE: CS>Copper Arthritis Treatment

[Noel White]

RA is Rheumatoid Arthritis and is diffrent from Osteoarthritis.

Noel


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RE: CS>H2O2 in CS

[Bob Bartell]

Thanks Kevin.   Still think its wrong to use USP to ascribe  a level of
purity when the product contains identifiable other components - trace
amounts or otherwise.   Namaste:  Bob Bartell

 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>H2O2 in CS

 

Bob,

Phosphoric acid is a major additions to most soft-drinks - you
would be getting maybe millions of times more from a few swigs of coke
than from a few drops of 3% H2O2 containing .001% PA. I would think
purified water is synonymous with deionized water - only trace amounts
of anything else present. Almost certainly the quantities of
contaminants in the water used to make your CS batch would overwhelm
anything coming from those few added drops of H2O2. I do wonder though
whether Jason's taste testing was skewed from the addition of peroxide -
bitter stuff!

 

regards, Kevin Nolan

- Original Message - 

From: Bob   Bartell 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:56 AM

Subject: CS>H2O2 in CS

 

After reading Jason's message about adding hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) to
CS and remembering other posts in the past that have mentioned this, a
little bell went off in my head with a link to some memories of 35% food
grade hydrogen peroxide, et al.  Anyhow, I went to the medicine cabinet
to check what was there and found a bottle of 3%.  It was acquired from
K-Mart and in prominent size lettering on the front it states 3% H2O2
U.S.P.  When I went to school, that stood for United States Pure.  The
fine print on the back says "Also contains 0.001% Phosphoric Acid as a
stabilizer, and Purified Water".  Purified water means "no live bugs"
but other "inert" ingredients may be dissolved in the water - right?
Well, I better get out those old supplier lists of Food Grade H2O2  and
make my own dilute solutions with distilled water.   That, hopefully,
won't screw up my CS experimentations.  Anybody else care to comment on
their experiences with H2O2 in CS?  Namaste:  Bob

 

-Original Message-
From: AVRA / Jason [mailto:silverd...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>volltage ?

 

Trem's generator ( personally speaking ) create a CS that tastes about
"half" as "metallic" as a very high ionic colloidal silver ( as tested
by ionizing remaining particles with H2O2 ) at about 10PPM.

 

I've noticed that as the PPM increases, so does the strength of the
taste, considering with a good current controlled generator, the  ratio
of ionic vs. colloidal content should roughly remain the same ( within
reason ).

 

>From my observations, an 85% ionic CS as compared to a 95%+ ( only
estimated ) CS has quite a different taste ( the latter being  more
bitter or harsh ).

 

However, you can get the same level of taste from a nine-volt battery
setup...  While a very strong batch will be lower quality because of the
runaway reaction producing larger particles and producing a poorly
dispersed end product, it will still "taste" quite potent.  I don't
think taste can be used to gauge quality, only to determine whether or
not there are silver ions.

 

Silverpuppy generators produce a CS that is very similiar taste-wise;
the taste of Natural Immunogenics Argentum 23 is also very comparable.

 

But, being taste, this is all very subjective, although I just went and
took a small sip of all three.

 

Jason

 

- Original Message - 

From: Trem   

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: CS>volltage ?

 

Hi Russ,

We test all our SG7 Pro machines by making CS and calibrating them at
the
same time.  So, we always end up with CS that measures at least 15 PPM
determined by using 3 PWT's for averaging purposes.

Since lab tests show our CS is 85% ionic that means it is at least 17
PPM
total silver.  The figure of 15 PPM is actually on the low side because
we
usually crank the output up to 20 PPM to assure customers they can get
at
least 15 PPM.  So, that means our CS made during testing is usually 20+
PPM.

I drink between 1 and 4 ounces at a time daily.  To me the taste is
usually
not metallic but does save a faint astringent flavor.  When I have made
it
to strengths of 35-45 PPM it sometimes does have a metallic flavor but
by no
means is it unpleasant.

I must also let you know my palate is not the meat and potatoes type.
We
cook with lots of spices and exotic flavors so our CS might taste
different
to someone that is used to a more bland diet.  Are there any of you out
there that have one of our generators that would care to chime in?

1) What's your CS' PPM?20+
2) How was it measured?  PWT and AA
3) How would you rank it's flavor intensity (1-5)?2


Trem


- Original Message -
From: "Russ Rosser" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:55 PM

RE: CS>Copper Arthritis Treatment

[Bob Bartell]

You used the acronym "RA" in your message!  In the Army, I was taught
that RA in front of my serial number stood for "Regular Army" .  What
does your RA stand for ... and why should I have to ask? (Believe me
when I tell you that I really don't know and haven't got a clue -- just
kind of stupidly ignorant by mentally blocking out acronyms!) Namaste:
Bob Bartell

-Original Message-
From: Noel White [mailto:no...@webtv.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Copper Arthritis Treatment

Several experts today believe that RA is caused by dysbiosis and a leaky
gut syndrome. It is an auto immune disease. Protein particles leak
across the gut into blood stream and cause an auto immune response.  If
there is a secondary microbe that is  involved, then silver or copper
may help, but will not cure the cause.

Noel


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Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[Joseph Fritz]

I would add a small fuse and a resistor to limit current 
voltage=resistance*current ie 12k would be 10ma

Sincerely
Joseph B Fritz

At 12:39 PM 4/9/02 -0400, you wrote:

<>

  Okay, I'll bite, Arnold.  Would you care to elaborate?  Thanks.

Regards,
Catherine


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CS>New lab comparison studies regarding CS and bentonite

[AVRA / Jason]

Hi all,

For those interested, I have recently posted a study and a commentary (
intial drafting ) on the combination of colloidal silver with a quality
natural bentonite on our CS Website.  While necessary work is far from
complete, I'm very pleased with the initial results:

http://silverdata.20m.com/bentoniteandsilverbacterialcomparisonstudy.html

In addition, some of you may be interested in viewing our initial webpage
drafted on our upcoming not-for-profit colloidal silver Research and
Outreach Program ( this program will be a local program in Las Vegas, Nevada
and surrounding areas ).  This page has not yet been 'made public' as I'm
still working on designing the "co-researcher" forms and the medical
profiling forms.

As the research program advances, I'm hoping to be able to compile some very
interesting statistics...  We're going to undertake ( somehow ) a silver
toxicity study, a Herxheimer effect study, as well as studies of chronic
infections and various ailments.  All results, as they become available,
will be posted for public viewing.  I have a personal goal of documenting
50-100 cases to establish tentative baselines, whereby additional studies on
variances can then be conducted.  All of this work will likely happen very
slowly.

As results are documented and achieved, I have my eye on a few talented
integrative MD's that I'd like to draft for oversight and study purposes.

http://silverdata.20m.com/outreachandresearch.html

Jason


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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V102 #271

[Byron]

At 09:16 AM 4/14/02 -0700, you wrote:

Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing CS
In a message dated 4/14/2002 8:30:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
dwells2...@aol.com writes:
Not sure where you live but common drugstores and Dimestores carry sonic 
nebulizers off the shelf.

Dear Don,
I looked around in drugstores here (in San Francisco) but couldn't 
find a single one.  And in this town Dimestores have gone the way of the 
corner malt shop!  Any other suggestions?

Neil


Perhaps we are referring to an ultrasonic humidifier? It makes a nice 
little cloud of nebulized water.

And you can get them anywhere.

Byron

Re: CS>CD Mfgr'ing Units

[Alan Ettenberg]

- Original Message -
From: "Gary Green" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:03 AM
Subject: CS>CD Mfgr'ing Units


>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 09:15 PM, Solar wrote:
>
> > Trust me when I tell you that the SG-7
> > produces CS many orders of magnitude better in effectiveness, is made
> > MUCH better, gives you more for your money, etc. It isn't even fair to
> > compare the two. It is like comparing a plastic, model car, to a
> > highly tuned formula 1 racer.
>
> Great, thanks that really narrows it down.  I was a little suspect when
> he said the final product turned a "fine yellow" after a bit of storage
> time.
>
> Does anyone (including you  Solar) have a recommendation for the
> ***ULTIMATE CS PRODUCTION UNIT***?  It's not easy to get things through
> customs here, usually involves bribes or know-who.  I'll be able to pull
> this off one time for sure but other timesmaybe, so since I'm
> looking at making it for family, friends and patients what is a good
> unit for doing it in quantity?  Then again, I could probably use this
> unit and pump out 8 gal / day so that could get me through the first 6
> months or so.
>
> Anyway... what's the best people?  Thanks again for all the advice.
>
> Gary.
>
>
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> We have an excellent cs machine which we manufacture & sell for $119.95.
We have a doctor bringing it to Europe to begin distribution there as well.
The unit makes up to 2 qts @ a time of great quality cs.
Alan

Re: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS

[Bobbye Stegen]

Hi,

Simple question.  What is a nebulizer?  My 93 yr old Mom who is in excellent 
health, still drives, has a chronic sinus problem for many years.  I would like 
to try the nebulizer and CS.  Also, would the CS and saline nose drops help in 
stead of the nebulizer or would both be better?

Thanks,

Bobbye
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Osowiecki 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:37 AM
  Subject: CS>CS>Nebulizing CS




  Neil,
  Being that I am asthmatic, I have a prescription from the doctor, and my 
insurance company actually purchased it for me.  In years past many on this 
list have come up with a myriad of solutions for attaining a nebulizer.  
Perhaps by searching the archives under nebulizer, you will come up with their 
responses. There are actually scematics to build your own (one of the things 
that I lost with my hard drive), but it is in the archives.  In case you don't 
know, there should be a link to the archives at the bottom of this page.  I 
wish you the best in your search. I think I recall that people have seen them 
on Ebay as well.   You can also try searching the internet for a site that will 
sell without a script.  
  I hope this helps,
  God Bless,
  Christiane
- Original Message - 
From: neilinthegar...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing CS


Dear Christiane, 
   Thanks for sharing your story.  Your experience with CS is very 
encouraging and heartwarming.  My question is:  Where did you get your 
nebulizer?  I have found one here in town, an electric model, but they won't 
sell it to me without a prescription. 
Thanks so much, 
Neil 

Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[Arnold Beland]

Catherine,

Do you remember the Disney film "Fantasia"?  Terry and his method remind me
on the Sorcerer's Apprentice part.
All jokes aside, connecting directly to the Mains AC, and especially through
a rectifier, is potentially lethal in any circumstance.  Add to that the
ingredient of water that has purposely been made conductive and you have a
situation in which a tragedy is almost certain to occur.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland



- Original Message -
From: "Catherine Creel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer


> < to increase the amount of your life insurance.>>
>
>   Okay, I'll bite, Arnold.  Would you care to elaborate?  Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Catherine
>
>
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Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[Catherine Creel]

<>

  Okay, I'll bite, Arnold.  Would you care to elaborate?  Thanks.

Regards,
Catherine


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CS>CS>Nebulizing CS

[John Osowiecki]

Neil,
Being that I am asthmatic, I have a prescription from the doctor, and my 
insurance company actually purchased it for me.  In years past many on this 
list have come up with a myriad of solutions for attaining a nebulizer.  
Perhaps by searching the archives under nebulizer, you will come up with their 
responses. There are actually scematics to build your own (one of the things 
that I lost with my hard drive), but it is in the archives.  In case you don't 
know, there should be a link to the archives at the bottom of this page.  I 
wish you the best in your search. I think I recall that people have seen them 
on Ebay as well.   You can also try searching the internet for a site that will 
sell without a script.  
I hope this helps,
God Bless,
Christiane
  - Original Message - 
  From: neilinthegar...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:20 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing CS


  Dear Christiane, 
 Thanks for sharing your story.  Your experience with CS is very 
encouraging and heartwarming.  My question is:  Where did you get your 
nebulizer?  I have found one here in town, an electric model, but they won't 
sell it to me without a prescription. 
  Thanks so much, 
  Neil 

Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[Arnold Beland]

Dear d x,

If you have anyone dependant on you for support, this might be a good time
to increase the amount of your life insurance.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland

- Original Message -
From: "d x" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer


>
>
> Way to go.
> I will be doing this myself
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Terry Chamberlin 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:35 PM
> Subject: CS>The ultimate CS brewer
>
>
> > I felt I had to toss in my 2 cents here about CS
> > production.
> >
> > I use 110 VDC to make my CS. It's the regular 110-volt
> > wall current, run through a 110-volt TV rectifier (got
> > it used from a TV repair shop for $5).
> >
> > I make 10-gallons per hour, not because that is a
> > limit, but because I only need to do that. I could
> > just as easily make 50 gallons per hour. I use ten
> > 1-gallon glass pickle jars. I put 1 quart of
> > pre-brewed CS into each jar, fill them up with 3
> > quarts of DW. I hang 14-gauge .999 fine silver wires
> > about 8" into the jar, bent over the rim to the
> > outside for the alligator clips. They are spaced apart
> > as far as the jars allow, about 4-1/2" apart. The wall
> > current runs through a timer, which I set for one
> > hour.
> >
> > I get crystal clear CS every time, which Old Bob's
> > testing showed to be 12 ppm with almost no Tyndale
> > effect. It's hard for me to imagine getting reports
> > concerning the use of CS that are more amazing than
> > the reports I regularly receive from my customers
> > across Canada. Do I believe my CS is the best? Not
> > necessarily. I believe all good CS is amazing. I
> > suspect almost any electro-colloidal CS would be
> > effective. (Assuming pure silver, DW and no starters
> > besides some CS.)
> >
> > The list of health issues that I have been told
> > disappeared when ingesting/applying the CS I make
> > include such things as cancer, herpes (on the skin and
> > in the eyes), shingles, canker sores, acne, eczema,
> > psoriasis, kidney, bladder, ear, eye and sinus
> > infections, warts, parasites (exiting the body in the
> > stool), colds, flu, ulcers, CFS, any kind of burn, the
> > list goes on and on.
> >
> > Is it because I use 110-VDC (or 27-VDC, or 10,000
> > VAC)?
> > No, it's because it's pure silver in water.
> >
> > Remember folks, people used to grind up silver into
> > powder and drink it in wine or water, and benefit from
> > it wonderfully. How much bigger is the smallest
> > mechanically-ground up silver particle than the
> > biggest electrically-generated silver colloid? 1,000
> > times bigger? 10,000 times? A million times?
> >
> > I like making CS using 110 VDC because it's so simple.
> > It stays clear almost indefinitely - I put a clear
> > 2-quart jar of my CS in the window and left it there
> > in the sun all day every day for 14-1/2 months. It
> > finally obtained a very slight yellowish hue. How long
> > would it have stayed clear in a dark brown bottle?
> > Years? Who cares?
> >
> > It's also a very simple way to make as large a
> > quantity of CS at a time as I want. It doesn't settle
> > out, doesn't become bitter, kills bugs like crazy. But
> > the reality is also this: When I was first making CS,
> > I used 9-volt batteries, and I was getting the same
> > amazing reports I am getting now. Even though it was
> > frequently yellow or gold CS, and many times had a
> > bitter, metallic taste, it was still amazingly
> > effective.
> >
> > My point is, I don't know who has the "best" CS. No
> > one else knows, either. And I think the question is
> > irrelevant. Any CS that works as good as mine is as
> > good as is needed, as far as I am concerned. And I
> > have no doubt that there are many brands of CS as good
> > as mine, perhaps even most brands. (If made properly.)
> >
> > So when one talks about the "Ultimate CS brewer", what
> > is that in reference to? Expense? Convenience? Quality
> > of CS? Complexity of operation? Cost of purchase?
> > Color/taste of CS?
> >
> > For me, it's effectiveness against human health
> > issues. And in that department, I am content.
> >
> > Terry Chamberlin
> > Metabolic Solutions Institute
> > RR1  314 Carleton Rd
> > Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
> > 902-584-3810 voice
> > 413-826-7641 fax service
> > msi...@yahoo.com
> >
> >
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Re: CS>The ultimate CS brewer

[d x]

Way to go.
I will be doing this myself


- Original Message - 
From: Terry Chamberlin 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:35 PM
Subject: CS>The ultimate CS brewer


> I felt I had to toss in my 2 cents here about CS
> production.
> 
> I use 110 VDC to make my CS. It's the regular 110-volt
> wall current, run through a 110-volt TV rectifier (got
> it used from a TV repair shop for $5).
> 
> I make 10-gallons per hour, not because that is a
> limit, but because I only need to do that. I could
> just as easily make 50 gallons per hour. I use ten
> 1-gallon glass pickle jars. I put 1 quart of
> pre-brewed CS into each jar, fill them up with 3
> quarts of DW. I hang 14-gauge .999 fine silver wires
> about 8" into the jar, bent over the rim to the
> outside for the alligator clips. They are spaced apart
> as far as the jars allow, about 4-1/2" apart. The wall
> current runs through a timer, which I set for one
> hour.
> 
> I get crystal clear CS every time, which Old Bob's
> testing showed to be 12 ppm with almost no Tyndale
> effect. It's hard for me to imagine getting reports
> concerning the use of CS that are more amazing than
> the reports I regularly receive from my customers
> across Canada. Do I believe my CS is the best? Not
> necessarily. I believe all good CS is amazing. I
> suspect almost any electro-colloidal CS would be
> effective. (Assuming pure silver, DW and no starters
> besides some CS.)
> 
> The list of health issues that I have been told
> disappeared when ingesting/applying the CS I make
> include such things as cancer, herpes (on the skin and
> in the eyes), shingles, canker sores, acne, eczema,
> psoriasis, kidney, bladder, ear, eye and sinus
> infections, warts, parasites (exiting the body in the
> stool), colds, flu, ulcers, CFS, any kind of burn, the
> list goes on and on.
> 
> Is it because I use 110-VDC (or 27-VDC, or 10,000
> VAC)?
> No, it's because it's pure silver in water.
> 
> Remember folks, people used to grind up silver into
> powder and drink it in wine or water, and benefit from
> it wonderfully. How much bigger is the smallest
> mechanically-ground up silver particle than the
> biggest electrically-generated silver colloid? 1,000
> times bigger? 10,000 times? A million times?
> 
> I like making CS using 110 VDC because it's so simple.
> It stays clear almost indefinitely - I put a clear
> 2-quart jar of my CS in the window and left it there
> in the sun all day every day for 14-1/2 months. It
> finally obtained a very slight yellowish hue. How long
> would it have stayed clear in a dark brown bottle?
> Years? Who cares? 
> 
> It's also a very simple way to make as large a
> quantity of CS at a time as I want. It doesn't settle
> out, doesn't become bitter, kills bugs like crazy. But
> the reality is also this: When I was first making CS,
> I used 9-volt batteries, and I was getting the same
> amazing reports I am getting now. Even though it was
> frequently yellow or gold CS, and many times had a
> bitter, metallic taste, it was still amazingly
> effective.
> 
> My point is, I don't know who has the "best" CS. No
> one else knows, either. And I think the question is
> irrelevant. Any CS that works as good as mine is as
> good as is needed, as far as I am concerned. And I
> have no doubt that there are many brands of CS as good
> as mine, perhaps even most brands. (If made properly.)
> 
> So when one talks about the "Ultimate CS brewer", what
> is that in reference to? Expense? Convenience? Quality
> of CS? Complexity of operation? Cost of purchase?
> Color/taste of CS? 
> 
> For me, it's effectiveness against human health
> issues. And in that department, I am content.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
> Metabolic Solutions Institute
> RR1  314 Carleton Rd
> Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
> 902-584-3810 voice
> 413-826-7641 fax service
> msi...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
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> Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca
> 
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Re: CS>Nebulizing CS

[Neilinthegarden]

In a message dated 4/14/2002 8:30:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
dwells2...@aol.com writes:


> Not sure where you live but common drugstores and Dimestores carry sonic 
> 

Dear Don,
 I looked around in drugstores here (in San Francisco) but couldn't find 
a single one.  And in this town Dimestores have gone the way of the corner 
malt shop!  Any other suggestions?
Neil

Re: CS>Nebulizing CS

[DWells2530]

Hi Neil,



> Where did you get your nebulizer?  I have found one here in town, an 
> electric model, but they won't sell it to me without a prescription. 
> 
Not sure where you live but common drugstores and Dimestores carry sonic 
nebulizers off the shelf. I prefer the sonic devices as the particles are 
extremely dense and small and its very easy to get to all parts of the lungs 
when your breathing this in. These work off of a cold process also so the 
solution is not devitalized by heat ( if heat effects it at all?)

Don



You'll notice that a turtle only makes progress when it sticks
  out its neck.

Re: CS>Nebulizing CS

[Neilinthegarden]

Dear Christiane,
Thanks for sharing your story.  Your experience with CS is very 
encouraging and heartwarming.  My question is:  Where did you get your 
nebulizer?  I have found one here in town, an electric model, but they won't 
sell it to me without a prescription.
Thanks so much,
Neil 

CS>Some questions

[Ronen Yehiav]

RE: CS>FliesTwo q's about CS manufacturing and use:

1.Can magnetizing the water assist in manufacturing CS?  One site claims
that only the positive charged particles of silver do any good, so maybe
positive magnetic charging of the water may help?

2.Rather than H2O2, i'm in favor of something called "Stabilized
Oxygen".  It does not attack healthy tissue, does not burn, and contains
much more oxygen than even 35% H2O2.  It is a buffered solution, and does
not react or break down easily.  Do you think there may be benefit in taking
it with CS?

Thank you all.
Ronen.


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CS>Nebulizing CS

[John Osowiecki]

RE: CS>FliesGary,
I have been asthmatic since birth, and like you, am very prone to infections in 
my lungs.  Through my childhood and into my adulthood, I have had chronic 
bronchitis, in addition to pnemonia at least twice a year. I was given 
antibiotics so often as a child, that I am now allergic to them...all 
of them...which is what made me seek out a natural alternative.  Since 
finding colloidal silver I no longer fear for my life when I feel illness 
coming on.  I nebulize with it and my lungs stay clear. I also use the 
nebulizer on my young children when they get a sinus or respiratory infection.  
One of my children is an immune suppressed kidney transplant in liver 
failureand I have been able to keep her out of the hospital 
numerous times by nebulizing CS with her.  In fact, I just cured her of RSV 
which is a respiratory virus that is particularly fatal in immuno-compromised 
people.  I am so thankful of CS and my nebulizer.  FYI .just 
HAD to do itI make my own CS using a very portable, inexpensive and 
convenient generator that I got from www.sunstoneherbals.com .It might be worth 
you looking into these generators for resale to your friends and patients.  It 
makes CS in small quantities ( 16 ounces of 6-8ppm per hour), but I was 
thinking in light of your issues with customs this might be a compact device 
that is easy to use that you would be able have shipped to you with little 
difficulty. It doesn't even remotely compare to the quantity that you can make 
with the silvergen, but I can tell you that the quality has suited our many 
needs over and above my expectations..and it is certainly feasible 
for someone to make CS to meet their families needs and not have to depend on 
you. It fits in a ziploc sandwich bag and I bring it with me everywhere when I 
travel.  Hospitals are our "home away from home" and I can carry it with me in 
my purse and make CS wherever we are.  

Just my two cents,
God Bless,
Christiane
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary L. Green 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:05 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Flies




  >Since the bugs seem to like to take up residence in my lungs I'm going to 
combine CS with a nebulizer.  Anyone had any experience with this?


  Again folks, thanks.
  Gary>




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