Re: CS>Bob Beck Interview

2003-06-28 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Thanks for this.  I just read it.  The crucial point apropos my earlier
question regarding H202 and ozonated water is in this interview.   The
bottom line:  ozonated water IS H202, if Bob Beck was correct.   As the
article says,  ozone becomes hydrogen peroxide in contact with water.  

Bottom line for me is that the SOTA ozonator would eliminate the need to
try to buy food grade H202, and would be MUCH cheaper in the long term.  

Thanks again!  


JBB





jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:
> 
> "... if you have garlic in your system, a little
> bit of it is tolerable. But garlic has
> sulfonhydroxyl in it, which is a deadly poison.
> Gangsters and soldiers used to rub their bullets
> with it before they fired, so if you were nicked,
> it would kill you. Organic gardeners use garlic
> now that they can't get DDT. It kills everything.
> Garlic also kills lots of brain cells, which
> causes desynchronisation of the left and right
> brain hemispheres. Pilots are not permitted to
> ingest garlic before their flights because it
> slows down their reaction times.
> Do not touch garlic! It is not a health food..."
> http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/beckinterview.html
> Currently under discussion at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
> jr
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CS>Bob Beck Interview

2003-06-28 Thread jrowland
"... if you have garlic in your system, a little 
bit of it is tolerable. But garlic has 
sulfonhydroxyl in it, which is a deadly poison. 
Gangsters and soldiers used to rub their bullets 
with it before they fired, so if you were nicked, 
it would kill you. Organic gardeners use garlic 
now that they can't get DDT. It kills everything.
Garlic also kills lots of brain cells, which 
causes desynchronisation of the left and right 
brain hemispheres. Pilots are not permitted to 
ingest garlic before their flights because it 
slows down their reaction times. 
Do not touch garlic! It is not a health food..."
http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/beckinterview.html
Currently under discussion at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
jr


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CS>Hanna calibration solution

2003-06-28 Thread Sandy . Green
I am going to purchase a Hanna PWT locally (Toronto)
along with the calibration solution.  Is there a
specific calibration solution I should be asking for,
e.g. a specific range?

Thank you

Sandy

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Re: CS>Bob Beck Interview

2003-06-28 Thread Jack Dayton
jrowl...@nctimes.net  6/28/03  8:32 AM

> "... if you have garlic in your system, a little
> bit of it is tolerable. But garlic has
> sulfonhydroxyl in it, which is a deadly poison.
> Gangsters and soldiers used to rub their bullets
> with it before they fired, so if you were nicked,
> it would kill you.
*
Really jr, that's about the worst bit of BS info
I've ever read on this list. Beck must have invented
that crap.

A search through 4 or 5  reference sources revealed
nothing that supports that nonsence.  Google found
9, that's right only 9 hits for the word SULFONHYDROXYL
and all 9 refered to Beck in some direct way.
Do you have any idea how unlikley it is that google
would ever produce only 9 - not 900, or 9,000 or
900,000  but just NINE?  Get real.

Jack Dayton


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RE: CS>Mold in apartment

2003-06-28 Thread J & S Campbell
Many thanks Bob, I'll get searching! 
Sheila

> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net]
> Sent: 27 June 2003 19:46
> To: campbe...@members.v21.co.uk
> Subject: Re: CS>Mold in apartment
> 
> 
> Sheila,
> 
> Back in 1930's allergies were allergies, basiclly pollen, dust 
> summertime stuff.
> 
> I did the H2O2 back in 1992 am allergy free even today. I started 
> CS in 1998.
> 
> If you can find Dr. David Williams' publication "Alternatives" 
> June 1992 (Vol.
> 4, No.12) he lists
> some 43 diseases that can be cured with H2O2.
> 
> If you canfind Dr. Julian Whitaker's "Health & Healin" for July 
> 2003, Vol 13,
> No. 7 there is a fantastic article
> about IV using vitamin C. If not get Dr Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD's book
> "VitaminC,Infectious Disease, and toxins:Curing the Incurable."
> 
> Remember the Dr. Linus Pauling was given a Nobel prize for curing 
> cancer vitamin
> C. Vitamin C forces the body to make H2O2.
> 
> "Ole Bob"
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>CS in the fridge?

2003-06-28 Thread Rich Adams
Curious, what method you use to make CS?


- Original Message - 

> Freezeing definitely messes up CS.


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Re: CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread M. G. Devour
> Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a
> little electricity in the water [ done ever so carefully, of course]
> would kill algae.  Being a chlorine hater, we always have a fine line
> between very minimum  chlorine and a green pool.  h202 seems way too
> pricey for a 20k gallon pool.  Any suggestions, it's a long hot summer
> here in Texas !  LC

This was discussed pretty recently... Do a search of the net or the
archives on "Algaebar" for one option. There are other systems.

It is a block of copper and silver that you toss in the water. The 
dissimilar metals set up an electrolytic reaction and release copper 
and silver ions into the water at low concentrations. Copper kills 
algae, silver kills bacteria.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS>Pancreatic cancer

2003-06-28 Thread colloidal . silver
Hello Nancy :)

Just some cancer basics...

1. Install a very good quality anti fluoride & chlorine filter in friends 
shower...
2. Have fried drink only a good quality steam distilled water... example 
"poland springs distillled water"... Drink lots !
3. No antiperspirants=aluminum toxicity / cooking with "Aluminum Cookware"...
4. Have friend begin Juicing large amounts of fresh organic-only fruits and 
vegetables !
5. Then Begin friend on C.S. @ 10-p.p.m. or more up to 20-p.p.m., have them 
drink several cups a day on an empty stomach, and have them also ingest live 
culture, plain white yogurt every evening... The yogurt balances the intestinal 
tract vs. the C. S.
6. Also have friend use this protocol... "Dr. Robert Beck Protocol"
see: http://www.toolsforhealing.com/Health/Beck/Beck_Protocol.htm

Sota Instuments worked closly and directly with Dr. Beck...
See: http://www.sotainstruments.com/


Dr. Bob Beck developed a procedure for obtaining good health that involved four 
distinct treatments.  These are widely referred to as the Beck Protocols.  
These are the four steps that he has put together that allow anyone to follow 
the path to a healthy life.  Good health is possible and a great place to start 
is with these four protocols.  There are other treatments, other devices, and 
other people with good ideas that have also proven to be effective.  Use your 
own judgment as to what is beneficial for you.  You have the right to choose 
your own medical treatment.  Use that right to choose for yourself. 


1. Blood Electrification/Purification: Electrical micro-currents are known to 
eliminate all viruses, parasites, fungi, bacteria and pathogens in blood. The 
concept has been revealed in many revolutionary patents and research papers 
over the past 100 years (going back to 1890), but these breakthroughs were 
typically lost, suppressed, ridiculed by mainstream medicine, etc. The method 
was rediscovered by Kaali (click here for info) at the Einstein College of 
Medicine as an AIDS cure in 1990, but, as usual, it was promptly buried and all 
but forgotten until Bob Beck read about it and decided to research it.  Blood 
electrification takes 2 hours daily for about four weeks to get significant 
results.  The Silver Pulser is our version of Beck's blood electrification unit.

2. Colloidal Sliver: Home-made, pennies-per-gallon colloidal silver acts as a 
"second immune system" according to Bob Beck.  It has been shown in numerous 
studies to be the only substance known to eliminate hundreds of viruses, 
bacteria, fungus, etc., more than any modern antibiotic or "miracle drug" yet 
developed by the pharmaceutical companies.  It greatly assists in eliminating 
pathogens and guards against opportunistic infections.  It can be used anywhere 
in or on the body.  You can buy just a colloidal silver maker, the Silver 
Maker, or get blood electrification and a colloidal silver maker in one unit 
with the Silver Pulser.

3. High-intensity Pulsed Magnetic Fields: Externally applied magnetic pulses to 
the lymphatic system, the spleen, kidney & liver, help neutralize germinating, 
latent and incubating parasites of all types, helping to block re-infection. 
This speeds up the elimination of disease, restores the immune system, and 
supports detoxification. Permanent magnets, no matter how strong they are, will 
not produce the same results as the pulsed fields of Bob Beck's device, which 
produces induced back-emf currents. You must have a high-intensity, 
time-varying, magnetic impulse, not just a magnetic field.  Magnets have their 
uses, but they work in different ways with different results.  Our Magnetic 
Pulse Generator produces the correct high-intensity field as specified by Dr. 
Beck.

4. Ozonated Water: Water that has been properly ozonated offers rapid, safe, 
and totally natural cell oxygenation without free radical damage. Universal 
detoxification is accomplished by oxidation of dead and neutralized pathogens, 
without the need for colonics, heat, hot tubs, exercise, liver and kidney 
flushing, herbs or other modalities. While these treatments have their uses,  
Bob Beck feels they are not necessary if ozonated water is used daily with the 
other three protocols he recommends.  Our Water Ozonator is a high quality unit 
that can fully ozonate an 8 ounce (250ml) glass of water in just a few minutes.




I've personally watched cancer melt away under this combination of clean eating 
+ hygene & augumentation of imunological system...


Regards,
Alexander J. Federowicz, E.E.
Providence, RI

- Original Message - 
  From: nancymike 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:45 PM
  Subject: CS>Pancreatic cancer


  Hi,
  I've had such great results with CS IV's for my MS.  I'm wondering if there 
is any thought of what it

Re: CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread twll
Look into OZONE for pool treatment
  - Original Message - 
  From: Linda Kaye Coombs 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:23 PM
  Subject: CS>CS for pools


  Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a little 
electricity in the water [ done ever so carefully, of course] would kill algae. 
 Being a chlorine hater, we always have a fine line between very minimum  
chlorine and a green pool.  h202 seems way too pricey for a 20k gallon pool.  
Any suggestions, it's a long hot summer here in Texas !  LC



CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread Linda Kaye Coombs
Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a little 
electricity in the water [ done ever so carefully, of course] would kill 
algae.  Being a chlorine hater, we always have a fine line between very 
minimum  chlorine and a green pool.  h202 seems way too pricey for a 20k 
gallon pool.  Any suggestions, it's a long hot summer here in Texas !  LC


Re: CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread Robert Berger
Linda,

When we had our pool several years ago we used a product called
"baquasil." Switched from chlorine.

It is much easier to maintain, does not sting or discolor and reduces
the maintenance from almost daily to monthly.

It the same stuff that surgeons use to wash their hands before surgery.

"Ole Bob"




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Re: CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread Orpha Yoder
Hello!

Is there no one on the list that uses essential oils for their pools? I do
not own a pool but use oils for health benefits. I have heard on other
health groups that some use certain oils for pool maintenance. If anyone is
interested in knowing about it, let me know and I will try to find the info
for you.

Stay cool and enjoy life!
Orpha



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- Original Message -
From: "M. G. Devour" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS for pools


> > Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a
> > little electricity in the water [ done ever so carefully, of course]
> > would kill algae.  Being a chlorine hater, we always have a fine line
> > between very minimum  chlorine and a green pool.  h202 seems way too
> > pricey for a 20k gallon pool.  Any suggestions, it's a long hot summer
> > here in Texas !  LC
>
> This was discussed pretty recently... Do a search of the net or the
> archives on "Algaebar" for one option. There are other systems.
>
> It is a block of copper and silver that you toss in the water. The
> dissimilar metals set up an electrolytic reaction and release copper
> and silver ions into the water at low concentrations. Copper kills
> algae, silver kills bacteria.
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
>
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V103 #470

2003-06-28 Thread CKing001
I got mine from Tom Harrelson a couple years ago. 
He had best prices and was recommended for good service at the time.
He has a site http://healingtools.tripod.com/linksa.html
You may have to email him about the aranizer.

Chuck
Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.


On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:34:35 -0400, Gladys Williams  wrote:

>I AM IN THE MARKET FOR A GOOD REASONABLY PRICED
>AIR PURIFIER.  WENT TO THE SITE, BUT THERE ARE NO 
>PRICES.  CAN YOU GIVE A ROUND ABOUT?
>
>AND IS IT REALLY GOOD?  HAVE HAD THREE DIFFERENT
>TYPES AND THEY WERE NOT EFFECTIVE AGAINST MY
>MOTHERS CIGARETTE SMOKE 
>
>Gladys
>
>I have an Aranizer electronic air purifier and I'd recommend it if I 
> were Mike.http://www.aranizer.com/


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Re: CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread Jeanne Shuford
I ordered 3 of the algaebars and my hot tub is very happy now, thanks guys
for telling me about this.Jen
- Original Message - 
From: "M. G. Devour" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS for pools


> > Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a
> > little electricity in the water [ done ever so carefully, of course]
> > would kill algae.  Being a chlorine hater, we always have a fine line
> > between very minimum  chlorine and a green pool.  h202 seems way too
> > pricey for a 20k gallon pool.  Any suggestions, it's a long hot summer
> > here in Texas !  LC
>
> This was discussed pretty recently... Do a search of the net or the
> archives on "Algaebar" for one option. There are other systems.
>
> It is a block of copper and silver that you toss in the water. The
> dissimilar metals set up an electrolytic reaction and release copper
> and silver ions into the water at low concentrations. Copper kills
> algae, silver kills bacteria.
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
>
>
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CS>Silver abx socks! (my brother could use these)

2003-06-28 Thread Wwench9



Slivers of silver solve the problem of smelly socks
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 25/06/2003) 


Smelly socks could one day be just a nasty memory thanks to nanotechnology.

Scientists in South Korea have discovered a method of impregnating silver 
particles into the polypropylene widely used in textiles, which give it 
"excellent" antibacterial properties.

Silver has been shown to kill more than 650 disease-causing organisms and is 
also a safe antibacterial agent, enabling the "nanocomposite" fibres to be 
used as a weapon against malodorous feet.

Prof Sung Jeong and Sang Yeo, his graduate student at Hanyang University, 
Seoul, report in the journal Polymer International how the new fibres maximise 
the surface area of the silver to provide an optimum antibacterial effect.

The particles are around 30 nanometres across - a nanometre is a billionth of 
a metre - and Prof Jeong said: "Even though they only contain a small amount 
of silver our new fibres have excellent antibacterial properties and the 
physical properties are not affected.

"So, if we could control bacteria, we don't have to worry about the bad smell 
from socks and underwear."

The pair have managed to make safe anti-microbial fibres with a range of 
applications, including socks, carpets, napkins and surgical masks.

Amore Pacific, a Korean cosmetics company, is already using nano silver 
particles in its under-arm deodorants.

The Prince of Wales recently prompted the Government to launch an independent 
investigation into the benefits and risks of nanotechnology after he http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$BIZIEK0VUNGVHQFIQMFCFF4AVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2003/06/05/nano05.xml";>voiced
 
fears that tiny robots could one day reduce the planet to a "grey goo".

Prey, a novel by Michael Crichton, envisaged a world where people are taken 
over by predatory nanoscale robots.

However, Lord Sainsbury, the science minister, has dismissed the Prince's 
concerns as mere "science fiction".




 


CS>Re: Bob Beck interview

2003-06-28 Thread jrowland
Jack writes:
> ...Google found 9...hits for the word SULFONHYDROXYL
> and all 9 refered to Beck in some direct way...
Well, guess what---spelling sometime counts:
"...The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion 
penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, 
and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells."
www.karinya.com/garlic.htm
Google will now retrieve 152 references.
"garlic toxic" brings up 52,600 results.
Real enough now?
jr


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Re: CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread Marv Hacker
Ode Coyote wrote:

That's online
www.algaebar.com?

search it up

Ode



- Original Message - 
From: "Jeanne Shuford" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS for pools


I ordered 3 of the algaebars and my hot tub is very happy now, thanks guys
for telling me about this.Jen
- Original Message - 
From: "M. G. Devour" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS for pools


> > Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a
> > little electricity in the water [ done ever so carefully, of course]
> > would kill algae.  Being a chlorine hater, we always have a fine line
> > between very minimum  chlorine and a green pool.  h202 seems way too
> > pricey for a 20k gallon pool.  Any suggestions, it's a long hot summer
> > here in Texas !  LC
>
> This was discussed pretty recently... Do a search of the net or the
> archives on "Algaebar" for one option. There are other systems.
>
> It is a block of copper and silver that you toss in the water. The
> dissimilar metals set up an electrolytic reaction and release copper
> and silver ions into the water at low concentrations. Copper kills
> algae, silver kills bacteria.
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
>
>
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V103 #470

2003-06-28 Thread Marv Hacker
Hi, Gladys,

They did not answer most of my questions, but I received this response
to my ?:

Dear Marv,

Our HVAC-1 unit Retails for $700.00 and will do up to 2500 sq.ft. It is
installed in the Supply side of your duct work.

The SS-8 unit is good for one floor with adequate air circulation. It
retails for $500.00.

The SS-6 is $400.00 and the SS-4 is $300.00 (Not Recommended for more than
500 sq.ft.)

Call me toll free at: 866  272-6247

Sincerely yours,

Ted

P.S.: Prices will increase by 10% on Tuesday, July 1!

-Original Message-
From: Marv Hacker [mailto:marv...@charter.net]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:53 PM
To: arani...@aranizer.com
Subject: Hi


Hi,

A friend on an email forum recommended your equipment. I am interested
in your electronic air purifier for use in my 1,700 sq.ft. home. For some
reason, I could not locate a tech sheet at your site.

What is the:
+ prox cost
+ required maintenance
+ cost of maintenance supplies, if any
+ life expectancy of the hardware
+ power consumption
+ noise level when in operation at normal level
+ physical size

Thanks for the help.

Best regards,
   :) Marv

Marvin Hacker




- Original Message -
From: "Gladys Williams" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V103 #470



I AM IN THE MARKET FOR A GOOD REASONABLY PRICED
AIR PURIFIER.  WENT TO THE SITE, BUT THERE ARE NO
PRICES.  CAN YOU GIVE A ROUND ABOUT?

AND IS IT REALLY GOOD?  HAVE HAD THREE DIFFERENT
TYPES AND THEY WERE NOT EFFECTIVE AGAINST MY
MOTHERS CIGARETTE SMOKE

Gladys

I have an Aranizer electronic air purifier and I'd recommend it if I
 were Mike.http://www.aranizer.com/


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Re: CS> H2O2, ag(+), NaCl

2003-06-28 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60753.html
CS> H2O2, ag(+), NaCl
From: Mike Monett
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 06:06:19

  As referenced  above, I am studying the effect of  hydrogen peroxide
  on silver ions, and found a reference to treating photographic waste
  to remove the ions left over from the development process:

  http://www.h2o2.com/applications/industrialwastewater/photowaste.html

  It contains the following formula:

2Ag(+) + H2O2 --> 2Ag + H2O2 + H(+)

  This indicates H2O2 is a catalyst that reduces silver ions to silver
  atoms. However, adding a bit of 3% WallMart H2O2 to my normal cs had
  no effect on the dispersion in the salt test.

  Robert mentioned  it might be due to stabilizers in  the  3% product
  that are  not  used in the 35% food grade. However, the  FAQ  at the
  same site indicates that stabilizers are indeed used in  most grades
  and gives examples of different types:

http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html#4

  I decided the reaction might be very slow, so I poured some cs  in a
  glass and  added H2O2. I let it sit overnight, then added  salt. The
  dispersion was exactly as before.

  Luckily, I  happened to find an old jar of cs made at  1.4 mA/sq.in.
  that had turned dark brown and coated the walls black. I poured half
  into a glass and added some H2O2.

  The reaction was instantaneous. The cs turned completely  clear. The
  salt test showed a strong dispersion.

  I gently  heated the remaining cs to boil away the water.  It  is my
  understanding that a silver ion cannot exist in the free  state, and
  must combine to form particles.

  So I assume there were no silver ions remaining after the jar dried.
  (I still  don't know where the needed electrons come from,  but that
  is another open issue.)

  I poured about 1 inch of 3% H2O2 in the empty jar. It fizzed a great
  deal and  made  a  lot of tiny bubbles. When  it  was  finished, the
  solution was  clear  and  the black residue  had  vanished  from the
  glass.

  Adding salt  produced  a  very strong milky  dispersion.  It  is not
  possible to see background objects when viewing through the  side of
  the glass.

  A dispersion  this  strong  cannot be made  with  the  1.4 mA/sq.in.
  process I used.

  So I  conclude  the  H2O2 dissolved the  silver  coating  and formed
  silver ions,  which is a direct contradiction to the  equation shown
  above.

  A clue  to  the problem may come from the  photographic  industry. A
  description of the process often indicates a solitary silver atom is
  unstable.

  If it  manages  to capture an electron, it gives  it  up  readily to
  another ion  that  wants  it. The losses in  the  process  mean that
  ordinary film is not very efficient, and up to 10 photons are needed
  before a ion cluster is turned into a stable molecule.

  In our case, there are plenty of aggressive hydrogen ions that would
  take the  electron  away from a solitary silver  atom.  The equation
  shown above should then be modified as follows:

2Ag(+) + H2O2 --> 2Ag + H2O2 + H(+)

2Ag + 2H(+) --> 2Ag(+) + H2

  and the process should continue to evolve hydrogen gas until all the
  water was  gone. Clearly this does not happen, so the  equations are
  incorrect.

  However, there is another important clue.

  Most descriptions  of  the   photographic  process  indicate  that a
  minimum of  4  silver ions are needed in a cluster, and  at  least 4
  electrons are  needed to form a stable silver molecule  that  can be
  later developed  to  form  part of an image.  One  site  indicates a
  minimum of  2 ions may be stable, but they don't seem to  be certain
  of this. None of the sites I visited mentioned odd numbers of silver
  ions.

  If this  is  true,   it   may   have  profound  implications  in our
  understanding of the formation of particles during the production of
  colloidal silver.

  It means a single ion is not enough to start the process. We need to
  somehow bring  two or four silver ions together at the same  time in
  order to start the process of particle formation.

  The probability of this occurring must be very low  until sufficient
  ion density  is  reached  in the  solution,  then  it  will suddenly
  avalanche.

  This might  help  explain  why the cs  process  continues  until the
  concentration of  ions reaches a critical density, then  it suddenly
  forms a mist as shown in the following picture. (From the  amount of
  mist being generated, I believe the right electrode is  the cathode,
  and the left electrode is that anode.)

http://www.utopiasilver.com/images/gen3.jpg

  There are  very few references in the list archives on  what happens
  when ions  are forced together by Brownian  motion.  Ivan, Marshall,
  and Frank  Key  may touch on the subject, then veer  off  in another
  direction.

  If anyone  has any links that may shed further light on  this topic,
  please let me know. 

  Thanks!

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS> H2O2, ag(+), NaCl

2003-06-28 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60792.html
Re: CS> H2O2, ag(+), NaCl
From: Mike Monett (view other messages by this author)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:34:39

I got a bit muddy here:

  > It means a single ion is not enough to start the process.  We need
  > to somehow bring two or four silver ions together at the same time
  > in order to start the process of particle formation.

Please change to

  Disregarding the  single   site   that   claimed   two  ions  may be
  sufficient, we  need to somehow bring four silver  ions  together at
  the same time in order to start the process of particle formation.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>CS in the fridge?

2003-06-28 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60772.html
Re: CS>CS in the fridge?
From: Mike Monett
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:33:16

  > This is such an easy experiment it is hard to resist.
  > I put some in the freezer and will report Sunday what happened.

  Well, I  saw the liquid bubble surrounded by ice, but it  was clear.
  Everything was frozen solid the next time I looked.

  I kept  it  in the freezer for 24 hrs, then took it out  and  let it
  thaw.

  There was  no residue in the bottom, the cs was  crystal  clear, and
  the salt test was perfectly normal.

  So, cs  made  at  87  uA/sq.in.  to a  target  value  of  19  ppm is
  unaffected by freezing.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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CS>Availability of pure silver in many forms

2003-06-28 Thread jrowland
Looks like lots of . here:
"Availability: silver is available in many forms 
including crystals, flakes, wire, foil, 
"evaporation slugs", granule,
needles, powder, tube, mesh, bars, 
nanosized activated powder, rod, shot, and wool. 
Small and large samples of silver foil, 
sheet, wire, insulated wire, mesh, rod, tube, 
and powder (and silver alloys in foil, wire and 
tube form) can be purchased from 
Advent Research Materials via their web catalogue."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?S37112715
or:
http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Ag/key.html
jr


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RE: CS>Re: Bob Beck interview

2003-06-28 Thread James Holmes
I haven't had a chance to research the toxic garlic syndrome yet, but my
sensors tell me it is probably being promoted by the same people who say
vitamin C causes cancer.  

Maybe the vampires have started a disinformation campaign? 

Does this mean that all the cultures that have consumed large amounts of
garlic for centuries are really using it for population control?

JOH

-Original Message-
From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net] 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Bob Beck interview



Jack writes:
> ...Google found 9...hits for the word SULFONHYDROXYL
> and all 9 refered to Beck in some direct way...
Well, guess what---spelling sometime counts:
"...The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion 
penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, 
and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells."
www.karinya.com/garlic.htm Google will now retrieve 152 references. "garlic
toxic" brings up 52,600 results. Real enough now? jr


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RE: CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread James Holmes
Is there such a thing as optional oils?

JOH

-Original Message-
From: Orpha Yoder [mailto:oilth...@valink.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS for pools



Hello!

Is there no one on the list that uses essential oils for their pools? I do
not own a pool but use oils for health benefits. I have heard on other
health groups that some use certain oils for pool maintenance. If anyone is
interested in knowing about it, let me know and I will try to find the info
for you.

Stay cool and enjoy life!
Orpha



www.v4l.com/ProsperandbeinHealth



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From: "M. G. Devour" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS for pools


> > Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a 
> > little electricity in the water [ done ever so carefully, of course] 
> > would kill algae.  Being a chlorine hater, we always have a fine 
> > line between very minimum  chlorine and a green pool.  h202 seems 
> > way too pricey for a 20k gallon pool.  Any suggestions, it's a long 
> > hot summer here in Texas !  LC
>
> This was discussed pretty recently... Do a search of the net or the 
> archives on "Algaebar" for one option. There are other systems.
>
> It is a block of copper and silver that you toss in the water. The 
> dissimilar metals set up an electrolytic reaction and release copper 
> and silver ions into the water at low concentrations. Copper kills 
> algae, silver kills bacteria.
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
>
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CS>CS for pools

2003-06-28 Thread AScottSilver
From: Linda Kaye Coombs
Hi there, anybody know about CS for pools ?  I was Wondering if a little 
electricity in the water [done ever so carefully, of course] would kill algae. 
Any 
suggestions, it's a long hot summer here in Texas !
LC

First you get a couple of really big pieces of silver, then you get an arc 
welder Oh yeah, make sure no one is in the pool first.
(^_^)


Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V103 #470

2003-06-28 Thread Gladys Williams
 
I AM IN THE MARKET FOR A GOOD REASONABLY PRICED
AIR PURIFIER.  WENT TO THE SITE, BUT THERE ARE NO 
PRICES.  CAN YOU GIVE A ROUND ABOUT?

AND IS IT REALLY GOOD?  HAVE HAD THREE DIFFERENT
TYPES AND THEY WERE NOT EFFECTIVE AGAINST MY
MOTHERS CIGARETTE SMOKE 

Gladys

I have an Aranizer electronic air purifier and I'd recommend it if I 
 were Mike.http://www.aranizer.com/


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