CS>Constant Current CSG Schematic

2003-08-27 Thread S & J Young
Folks,

In the spirit of sharing, I am making available (free) a schematic and a few
construction hints for a CS generator I designed and use.  It is super
simple and can be built for around $15.  It produces very high quality CS
because the regulated (uses LM334) constant current to the electrodes is
only about 200 microamps (0.2 ma).  It uses a DC wall adapter so it runs off
120 V AC.  It is safe because the maximum voltage to the electrodes is only
about 25 volts and it is transformer isolated from the power lines.  Parts
are commonplace and can be purchased from Jameco and Radio Shack.

I let mine run about 24 hours and brew a quart at a time.  Because of the
very slow generation, stirring is not needed.  There is very little crud on
the electrodes at the end of production, and the product is crystal clear.
According to my PWT and the 1.2 "Trem factor", the end product is a 15-20
ppm mix of ionic & colloidal silver.

If you want a .GIF schematic and notes, Email your request to me privately
to you...@konnections.net.  (No, I don't sell the unit or any of the parts.
If you want one, you must build it yourself or ask your favorite electronics
guru to build it for you.)

--Steve Young



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CS>I'm confused!

2003-08-27 Thread Douglas Haack
I'm confused! then again I'm easy to confuse.

Fluoride, Fluorine, Stannus Fluoride. So far my knowledge is sketchy
about all of the above. I believe Sodium Fluoride "the rat poison"
is what's in the toothpase -- also a collected pollutant from the Aluminum
and power industries. Sold to us for the good of our health!!

Calcium Fluoride is the natural form found as a mineral content in naturally
occuring waters.

Now Stannus Fluoride -- haven't heard or seen this on toothpaste for years and
years
-- really wonder what that is?

Now what's Flourine? How does it get into the teeth equation? Was this another
part of the A-Bomb by-products?

I've been using Baking Soda and CS now for years.

Any contributions thankfully accepted.

In SILvation, Douglas Haack


TJ Garland wrote:

> I live in Oak Ridge ,Tn the "Secret City". In the 40's and 50's hundreds of
> millions of tons of flouride were used and dumped during the uranium
> enrichment process -making UHF (6). There is some discussion here about the
> only way to remove Flouride from the body is using gold. Is your CG fit for
> human consumption? Does anyone else have in ancedotal or studies of anything
> that will chelate Flourine from the body? BTW- $2B was just approved to
> continue operating this place. No one here will even discuss Flourine
> contamination. The stupid dentists still want to give everyone  flouride
> treatments. Colgate puts stannus flouride in all their toothpastes- gives
> everyone  dental flourisis(dicolored and mottled teeth) and then sells them
> a $50 tooth whitener system. What a racket!!!
>
> TJ Garland, CMO supplier
>there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
>
> >From: Trem 
> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
> >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:25:20 -0700
> >
> >Hi List,
> >
> >I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater arcing.  It sometimes
> >comes out violet and sometimes more of a gray color but it's always crystal
> >clear .  It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this.  Does anyone else
> >make it using HVAC and if so would you be interested in comparing notes?
> >Off list will be fine unless others want to hear too.
> >
> >I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but the PWT reads between 8
> >and 10 usually.  And it doesn't seem to be any different on the two colors.
> >
> >I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes with others about
> >their responses to it.
> >
> >Trem
> >t...@silvergen.com
> >
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread akaJhon
Anyone know about this G/G ??

http://colloidalsilvergens.com/colloidal_silver_generator_store.htm

| Hi TJ,
|
| I've been drinking it for several weeks.  No twitches or anything out of
the
|


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Berger
Hi TJ,

Yes the colloidal gold is safe to use. When I first started it was with CG from
Chip Holye about 3 ppm, and it help my wife and my knees for about 4 weeks. Then
Frank sent some Mesogold 8-10 ppm, and in 3 days we were back to square one.

Since then nothing would work for our knees. I have no idea why.

"Ole Bob"




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CS>Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread Trem
Hi TJ,

I've been drinking it for several weeks.  No twitches or anything out of the
ordinary so far.  I'm quite sure it's not harmful as long as it's not in a
salt form.  Gold salts are poisonous but that's a different story.

I'm so healthy it's going to be difficult to see any benefits.  Once I get
the process working better I'll look for someone who needs help and offer
it.

Trem

- Original Message -
From: "TJ Garland" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


> I live in Oak Ridge ,Tn the "Secret City". In the 40's and 50's hundreds
of
> millions of tons of flouride were used and dumped during the uranium
> enrichment process -making UHF (6). There is some discussion here about
the
> only way to remove Flouride from the body is using gold. Is your CG fit
for
> human consumption? Does anyone else have in ancedotal or studies of
anything
> that will chelate Flourine from the body? BTW- $2B was just approved to
> continue operating this place. No one here will even discuss Flourine
> contamination. The stupid dentists still want to give everyone  flouride
> treatments. Colgate puts stannus flouride in all their toothpastes- gives
> everyone  dental flourisis(dicolored and mottled teeth) and then sells
them
> a $50 tooth whitener system. What a racket!!!
>
> TJ Garland, CMO supplier
>there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
>
>
>
>
> >From: Trem 
> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
> >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:25:20 -0700
> >
> >Hi List,
> >
> >I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater arcing.  It sometimes
> >comes out violet and sometimes more of a gray color but it's always
crystal
> >clear .  It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this.  Does anyone
else
> >make it using HVAC and if so would you be interested in comparing notes?
> >Off list will be fine unless others want to hear too.
> >
> >I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but the PWT reads between
8
> >and 10 usually.  And it doesn't seem to be any different on the two
colors.
> >
> >I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes with others about
> >their responses to it.
> >
> >Trem
> >t...@silvergen.com
> >
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread TJ Garland
I live in Oak Ridge ,Tn the "Secret City". In the 40's and 50's hundreds of 
millions of tons of flouride were used and dumped during the uranium 
enrichment process -making UHF (6). There is some discussion here about the 
only way to remove Flouride from the body is using gold. Is your CG fit for 
human consumption? Does anyone else have in ancedotal or studies of anything 
that will chelate Flourine from the body? BTW- $2B was just approved to 
continue operating this place. No one here will even discuss Flourine 
contamination. The stupid dentists still want to give everyone  flouride 
treatments. Colgate puts stannus flouride in all their toothpastes- gives 
everyone  dental flourisis(dicolored and mottled teeth) and then sells them 
a $50 tooth whitener system. What a racket!!!


TJ Garland, CMO supplier
  there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.





From: Trem 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:25:20 -0700

Hi List,

I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater arcing.  It sometimes 
comes out violet and sometimes more of a gray color but it's always crystal 
clear .  It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this.  Does anyone else 
make it using HVAC and if so would you be interested in comparing notes?  
Off list will be fine unless others want to hear too.


I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but the PWT reads between 8 
and 10 usually.  And it doesn't seem to be any different on the two colors.


I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes with others about 
their responses to it.


Trem
t...@silvergen.com



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CS>NST testing info

2003-08-27 Thread Harvey Norris
Thought the following URL might be interesting to
those using the high voltage AC method.

This link is somewhat interesting, and talks about
testing neon sign
transformers.

http://www.signweb.com/neon/tips/neontip7.html

Sincerely HDN


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Re: CS>Re: Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread Jack Dayton
Dan Nave   8/26/03 5:13 PM  Wrote:

> Stay on the silver list.  There's a lot of colloidal gold info here.  You
> also get to read a whole lot of unsolicited smart-ass comments by Jack
> Dayton...
***
I'll keep you in mind.

Jack Dayton


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CS>Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread Trem
Hi Harvey,

Yes, I used the electrodes in a V shape and arc about 1 1/2" underwater.
The electrodes enter the water through glass tubes and are only exposed
about 3/16" in the water.  It is hard to keep the arc going.  Most likely
because I'm using a 9 KV / 60 Ma. NST.  A 15 KV would have been a better
choice but I bought a new but not needed unit and got a very good price.
Probably need to get the higher voltage unit.

I use water cooling and make 1 liter at a time.  Without cooling the water
really heats up.

I'm of the opinion that CG cannot be made using LVDC even though there are
some who claim they can do so.  My questions to all of those who say they
can do it is thisdoes the gold deteriorate and what is the color of the
CG.  I have not heard anyone say the CG was a violet or red color as I
believe it must be if there is in fact any gold in the water.  I also
haven't heard anyone say the electrodes deteriorate when they make what they
call CG that is colorless.  I think they are deluding themselves.

Trem


- Original Message -
From: "Harvey Norris" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


>
> --- Trem  wrote:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater
> > arcing.  It sometimes comes out violet and sometimes
> > more of a gray color but it's always crystal clear .
> >  It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this.
> > Does anyone else make it using HVAC and if so would
> > you be interested in comparing notes?  Off list will
> > be fine unless others want to hear too.
> >
> > I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but
> > the PWT reads between 8 and 10 usually.  And it
> > doesn't seem to be any different on the two colors.
> >
> > I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes
> > with others about their responses to it.
> >
> > Trem
> > t...@silvergen.com
> >
> Due to all the hoopla about N03 with AC high voltage
> arcing methods, I would wonder does an underwater arc
> avoid some of these ojections about combination  with
> nitrogen in the atmosphere? I did not know that a NST
> could produce an underwater arc. Did you have problems
> with the arc skirting the water surface instead, and
> did you use wires in a V formation for the underwater
> arc? I did note that early testing of high voltage AC
> without an arc, (as in DC methods), the water would
> heat up and hardly no colloidal effects showed up. (
> This was with silver, not gold) Back then however due
> to the unique way I was generating the high voltage,
> it was possible to use a single high voltage
> electrode, with the opposite electrode not immersed in
> the water, but given as a metal plate the glass rests
> on. This then allows for a very "high" current
> limitation by the dielectric of the  intervening glass
> and water. A very poor method of introducing colloids,
> but I was able to photograph some colloids falling
> from a single silver coin with this method. Do you see
> any problems with just using the conventional low
> voltage DC method for CG? What about using gold as the
> passive Positive anode for a conventional Silver-Gold
> collodial solution? Does consensus indicate that the
> positive electrode contributes practically no
> colloids? Visual observations seem to indicate a doubt
> on this matter, which if then true we might expect a
> mixture of both colloids?
> Pardon my ignorance of electrochemistry here, just
> wondering about a few things regarding the gold thing.
>
> HDN
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Berger
Harvey,

The arc is 1/2" to 2" below the water line, and to do this the electrodes
are inside of glass or quartz tubing except for the bottom 1/8". The
electrodes are in a "V" formation and I have had the best results when the
end of one electrode (adjustable) contacts the side of the fixed electrode,
That way I could maintain the arc as the DW heated up.

"Ole Bob"




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Re: CS>Re: 3200 ppm CS & Mexico¹s drinking water

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Berger
I lived on the north coast of Honduras for 9 years, and there is community
of Caribes, and the plams of their hands and their tongues are blue, and
their skin is indeed black black.

"Ole Bob"

jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:

> > ...I have never seen a blue Mexican---Bill
> "SUDAN...the land of the Pyramids, the land of the Blue Blacks, the land
> of the Nile..."
> http://www.kolaboof.com/gallery.htm
> A very mineral-rich country, including silver...hmmh.
> http://embassysudanindia.org/investment/mining.html
> jr
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

2003-08-27 Thread Harvey Norris

--- Trem  wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater
> arcing.  It sometimes comes out violet and sometimes
> more of a gray color but it's always crystal clear .
>  It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this. 
> Does anyone else make it using HVAC and if so would
> you be interested in comparing notes?  Off list will
> be fine unless others want to hear too.
> 
> I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but
> the PWT reads between 8 and 10 usually.  And it
> doesn't seem to be any different on the two colors.
> 
> I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes
> with others about their responses to it.
> 
> Trem 
> t...@silvergen.com
> 
Due to all the hoopla about N03 with AC high voltage
arcing methods, I would wonder does an underwater arc
avoid some of these ojections about combination  with
nitrogen in the atmosphere? I did not know that a NST
could produce an underwater arc. Did you have problems
with the arc skirting the water surface instead, and
did you use wires in a V formation for the underwater
arc? I did note that early testing of high voltage AC
without an arc, (as in DC methods), the water would
heat up and hardly no colloidal effects showed up. (
This was with silver, not gold) Back then however due
to the unique way I was generating the high voltage,
it was possible to use a single high voltage
electrode, with the opposite electrode not immersed in
the water, but given as a metal plate the glass rests
on. This then allows for a very "high" current
limitation by the dielectric of the  intervening glass
and water. A very poor method of introducing colloids,
but I was able to photograph some colloids falling
from a single silver coin with this method. Do you see
any problems with just using the conventional low
voltage DC method for CG? What about using gold as the
passive Positive anode for a conventional Silver-Gold
collodial solution? Does consensus indicate that the
positive electrode contributes practically no
colloids? Visual observations seem to indicate a doubt
on this matter, which if then true we might expect a
mixture of both colloids? 
Pardon my ignorance of electrochemistry here, just
wondering about a few things regarding the gold thing.

HDN


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