Re: CSColloidal silver first time user
Hello Kathy, Miky here, from what I know about CS, what you are experiencing is not unusual. The amount that you take may be to blame. I use it sparingly, I brush my teeth in the morning and then I swish a Jigger of CS 30 seconds in my mouth and let the absorption take it place in my mouth then I spit it out. This is what I tell all the first time user's that use this potent stuff. Depending on the degree and type of infection that you might have..bacterial infection ..not unusual... Some times viral or a combination of the two. Viruses will attack bacteria. The only thing that viruses are good for are population control. When you use CS you must drink at least 8 glasses of water a day.(Or More) This will purge your system of dead micro-organisms, that Have been destroyed by the CS. This will prevent any HERX reaction. A Herx Reaction will make you Feel sluggish and you will feel tired. When you feel like this you must cut back on the amount that you use or stop using the CS for a while. Let your system catch up. Drink water... pure clean Water. As for the stomach upset Eat yogurt, this will usually settle your stomach. Also cut back on the amount of animal proteins that you consume. Meats are hard to digest, and Using the CS inconjuction. well you get the picture. I am not saying cut out all meats, just reduce the amount that you would normally consume.
CSmetcalf
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Re: CSmetcalf
Wonder if they will get in trouble with the FDA (flower Drug Administration) for those claims. This is interesting: 1.Three 9-volt batteries total 27 volts, which is ideal for colloidal silver production. It is good, but there are those who would argue with that contention. 2.Unlike other battery configurations, three 9-volt batteries will normally last a year of regular use. He is correct there. If you use other configurations, such as 1.5 volt cells, or lantern batteries to get the voltage, it will last close to 10 years. But why would that be a selling point? 3.The 9-volt battery is the most common and therefore available battery in the world. Not by a long shot. Pinlight cells outsell 9 V batteries by a large margin. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Looks like Mark Metcalf is seeking another fortune. www.flowerpowergenerator.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmetcalf
MEOW! A hundred bucks for THAT? Holy Cow, Batman! sol Ode Coyote wrote: Looks like Mark Metcalf is seeking another fortune. www.flowerpowergenerator.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizing Benefits
That's a good question Paula. I do not recall seeing anything on how long the skin is more permeable. But I have seen no warning to be vigilante about what is put on the skin after DMSO, just at the time of application. That would imply to me that it is not a big concern. Drs. Jacob and Walker do not mention any issues with this in their books, which one would think would be the case if it were an issue. If I do come across anything I will post it. I do know that it does not remain in the body for more than about 72 hours. But this would be a very long time for the skin to remain permeable. Garnet On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 20:02, sol wrote: I don't know about nebulized or ingested DMSO, but for topical applications this is not entirely true. Applying DMSO to the skin surface leaves it permeable for some period of time post application. Technically I guess this is not transport but anything applied to the DMSO treated skin will be absorbed well into the skin, remarkably well, in fact. How deep it will go into the tissues, vs. how far it would have been transported if the substance had been mixed with DMSO prior to application, that I don't know. And for such uses as getting a medication into a tumor, say, the difference could be important. Wish I knew. paula Garnet wrote: My understanding of the mechanism of action of DMSO that is unless the substance is mixed with the DMSO *prior* to application or consumption that there is NO transport action. If this is accurate then your assumptions below about it carrying bacterial toxins from the lungs into the systemic circulation are not well founded. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFor Brooks - Horses and Eye Formula
Brooks, I would greatly appreciate any information on treating horses with cataracts. I have a beautiful and much loved gelding that has them in both eyes from equine recurrent uveitis. He was able to see out of one until this past month, when he had yet another episode of inflammation. I treated his eyes directly with 10% DMSO diluted with ~8 ppm CS, but no Glutathione of Vit C. I also gave him oral DMSO to address the acute episode he had last month. It helped with the inflammation and drainage but did not prevent the cataract that formed in his one good eye, the other has had a cataract for over a year. He is now functionally blind and has to be kept in a small obstruction free pen with a black and white mare that he can see enough to use her as a guide. He has also memorized the pen he is in. But can not live that way long term. I fear he will injure himself or have a stress colic when I am not around to help. I am having a difficult time resolving his long term care issues. Any help would be appreciated. I have thought of the eye formula but was not sure it would help him since the cause was episodic inflammation of unknown cause, or ERU. I am working with researchers at Texas AM University, two of the top Vet Opthamologists in the country. He was implanted with an experimental Cyclosporine Implant a year ago in his one good eye, but he has continued to have episodes and the last one was severe enough to cause a cataract in this eye, too. I know the reserachers would be interested and have even discussed the use of DMSO with another Equine opthamologist at AM -- he said it stings them too much so they must have been using higher than 10%. None of them have mentioned resolving cataracts after they formed, only preventing them by controling the episodic inflammation. Please feel free to mail me off list if you feel this is not on topic. I have been using a CS DMSO eye spray to control inflammation during this last episode. It did help with the drainage and kept the inflammation from developing as much as previous episodes. Thanks so much and sorry for the long message. Garnet On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 00:35, Brooks Bradley wrote: e have enjoyed quite measured success with DMSO as a major component in protocols addressing cataracts in horsesand experimental human volunteers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBaking soda
Hello everyone! I am new to this list and I have a question. I have been searching for a CS system and was looking at CS Pro. http://www.csprosystems.com/UniPhaseMaxPg.html . They mention that they use Baking soda to control PH and conductivity of the water. I know salts are bad to add from the research I have done on the net, but will baking soda hurt anything? Any other suggestions for a high capacity unit? Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe:THE LINKING PATHOGEN IN NEURO-SYSTEMIC DISEASES:Comment
Thank you very much for that info Brooks, do you think that CS alone or CS and DMSO would successfully penetrate into cells in vivo to kill mycoplasmas? Can you tell me if you have also tested the efficacy of CS with cyst forms of bacteria like borrelia cysts? Do you know of any other treatments you can use, apart from CS/DMSO/H202 and Beck type machines, for mycos and cell wall deficient bacteria, I am specifically thinking of borrelia infection. As always thanks for all your help and input on the list. BW, Sheila -Original Message- From: Brooks Bradley [mailto:brook...@eudoramail.com] Sent: 09 July 2004 00:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTHE LINKING PATHOGEN IN NEURO-SYSTEMIC DISEASES:Comment Our evaluations (conducted in calendar 2002) confirmed the efficacy of colloidal silver as an effective disabling agent against ALL forms of Brucellosis-derived mucoplasma pathogens tested IN VITRO. I must decline to identify all of the subject test items.at this time. Because of the inherent dangers involved, we have not conducted ANY controlled experiments involving contagion introduction, surveillance, and application of protocol variants.for these extraordinarily pernicious infectious agentsused on any live subjects. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Harborne Research Foundation - Original Message - DATE: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:42:14 From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: I have read, ...it is effective against mycoplasma I do not recall the authority of the cite. It seems like a cell-wall deficient organism should be more vulnerable than one with a cell wall. I very much would like to know. I'll do some searches, and write a couple of folks. JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:39 AM To: Silver List Subject: RE: CSTHE LINKING PATHOGEN IN NEURO-SYSTEMIC DISEASES So is there any consensus of the effectiveness of CS on mycoplasma. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release Date: 02/07/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release Date: 02/07/04
CSOT New Scientist article on SV40 in polio vaccines 7/7/04
Interesting article on SV40 in polio vaccines in New Scientist. Who knows what else we could get from vaccines. BW Sheila http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns6116 Vaccine scandal revives cancer fear 19:00 07 July 04 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. Many millions more people than previously thought might have been given polio vaccine contaminated with a monkey virus linked to cancer. It has been known since 1960 that early doses of polio vaccine were widely contaminated with simian virus 40, or SV40, which infects macaque monkeys. Tens of millions of people in the US and an unknown number in other countries, including the UK, Australia and the former Soviet Union, may have been exposed prior to 1963. The contamination occurred because the kidney cells the vaccine virus was grown in came from monkeys infected with SV40. Health officials say the problem was eliminated after 1963. Now Michele Carbone of Loyola University Medical Center in Chicago has announced results that suggest the Soviet polio vaccine was contaminated after 1963, possibly until the early 1980s. Is there infectious virus? The short answer is, yes, Carbone told the Vaccine Cell Substrate Conference 2004 in Rockville, Maryland, last week. The vaccine was almost certainly used throughout the Soviet bloc and probably exported to China, Japan and several countries in Africa. That means hundreds of millions could have been exposed to SV40 after 1963. Rare cancers The consequences of exposure to the virus (which is not related to HIV in any way) are unclear. There is evidence is that some of the people given contaminated vaccines were infected by SV40, and that such infections might lead to the development of certain rare types of cancer many years down the line. But the link with cancer has neither been proved, nor shown to be false. There are two scenarios, says Philip Minor of the National Institute for Biological Standards and Control in the UK. One is that it doesn't matter. The other is that it does. Minor found three samples of the Soviet oral polio vaccine from the late 1960s in the NIBSC's freezers, the only samples known to survive from this time. In 1999, he found they tested positive for SV40, whereas British samples from this period did not. But we did not draw any broad conclusions, Minor says. Now Carbone has carried out further tests. He has confirmed the presence of SV40 in the Soviet vaccine samples using three separate tests. In two of the samples, he also showed that the SV40 remained infectious. In the third sample, there was no infectious poliovirus either, an indication that the sample of the live vaccine may have degraded. Lung cancer link Yet the production process was supposed to ensure that if any SV40 was present, it would be neutralised. When Carbone tested the Soviet neutralisation method, which relied on magnesium chloride, he found it was only 95 per cent effective. Because of this, he believes the Soviet vaccine could have remained contaminated until the early 1980s. In 1981, the Soviet Union switched to a polio vaccine seed provided by the World Health Organization that was free from any SV40 contamination. Carbone, the first to publish evidence of a link between SV40 and the deadly lung cancer mesothelioma (New Scientist print edition, 21 May 1994), will not discuss his results further until they have been published. Officials from the US Food and Drug Administration who attended the conference also declined to comment, as the FDA is a defendant in lawsuits alleging that the SV40-contaminated polio vaccine used in the US has caused cancer cases. Hilary Koprowski of Jefferson University in Philadelphia, who created one of the first polio vaccines, says he is not surprised that the magnesium chloride preparation did not work. Nothing inactivates something 100 per cent, he said. I would believe there were still remnants [of SV40] left. Fresh kidneys The contamination of the Soviet vaccine highlights the need for safer methods of growing viruses for vaccines, Koprowski says, something he is trying to tackle by using plant cells. The US stopped using fresh monkey kidneys for polio vaccine in 2000. But the vaccine is still made in this way in several other countries. I would say that it suggests that [old] vaccines made in different countries should be examined for possible contamination, says Janet Butel of Baylor University College of Medicine in Houston, a leading SV40 expert. In any epidemiological studies where they're comparing exposed versus non-exposed, if in fact there was any contaminated vaccine used after 1963, the control group wouldn't be a control group. Konstantin Chumakov of the FDA Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, says that Carbone's findings leave many unanswered questions. For example, he said it is not clear from the labelling of the samples found at the NIBSC exactly when they were
Re: CSCS in Plastic Bottles?
Heidrun, There has been discussion of this previously on this list. The hard clear plastic should be fine; polycarbonate. Avoid the softer, milky coloured plastic because this in general allows chemicals to leach into the CS. OK, Tony On 8 Jul 2004 at 16:22, Heidrun Beer wrote: Date forwarded: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:22:38 -0700 From: Heidrun Beer hb...@sgmt.at To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:22:33 +0200 Organization: The Headquarter Forwarded by: silver-list@eskimo.com Send reply to: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSCS in Plastic Bottles? Somebody just told me that CS shouldn't be kept in plastic bottles. Is that true, and if yes, then why? I am using used mineral water bottles and never observed a problem. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS formulae for the eyes --- need help: Comment
This is great news! - Original Message - From: Roger Barker rbar...@orcon.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CSCS formulae for the eyes --- need help: Comment Thanks Brooks. My reason for asking is that my 16 year old dog is developing cataracts and I thought this protocol may help him. Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html on 9/7/2004 4:38 PM, Brooks Bradley at brook...@eudoramail.com wrote: Dear Roger, We found that two (sometimes three) applications daily were quite adequate for producing acceptable effectsas a general rule. Do remember that our activities were/are experimental in nature and are---in NO WAY, to be construed as medical practice or advice for the general public. Also, be advised that many concomitant elements may accompany a primary presentation, therefore, even effective address to the most visible affliction may still leave consequential challenges unresolvedin any experimental investigation. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. --- Harborne Research Foundation -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:CSBaking soda
Hi: I too am new to the list and will find time soon to introduce myself. I also had the conductivity problem but found that if the distilled water was less than 3ppm I set my rods 3/8 inch apart and run 30 DC volts for 5 minutes to get some particles of silver in the water. I then set them 1-1/4 inches apart to finish the brew. I found this to work well until I went to the high voltage process, which I use now. Bill Amos -- Hello everyone! I am new to this list and I have a question. I have been searching for a CS system and was looking at CS Pro. http://www.csprosystems.com/UniPhaseMaxPg.html . They mention that they use Baking soda to control PH and conductivity of the water. I know salts are bad to add from the research I have done on the net, but will baking soda hurt anything? Any other suggestions for a high capacity unit? Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFor Brooks - Horses and Eye Formula
Was there not a discussion a few month's back about using a drop of flaxseed oil in the eyes tid for curing cataracts? - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: CSFor Brooks - Horses and Eye Formula Brooks, I would greatly appreciate any information on treating horses with cataracts. I have a beautiful and much loved gelding that has them in both eyes from equine recurrent uveitis. He was able to see out of one until this past month, when he had yet another episode of inflammation. I treated his eyes directly with 10% DMSO diluted with ~8 ppm CS, but no Glutathione of Vit C. I also gave him oral DMSO to address the acute episode he had last month. It helped with the inflammation and drainage but did not prevent the cataract that formed in his one good eye, the other has had a cataract for over a year. He is now functionally blind and has to be kept in a small obstruction free pen with a black and white mare that he can see enough to use her as a guide. He has also memorized the pen he is in. But can not live that way long term. I fear he will injure himself or have a stress colic when I am not around to help. I am having a difficult time resolving his long term care issues. Any help would be appreciated. I have thought of the eye formula but was not sure it would help him since the cause was episodic inflammation of unknown cause, or ERU. I am working with researchers at Texas AM University, two of the top Vet Opthamologists in the country. He was implanted with an experimental Cyclosporine Implant a year ago in his one good eye, but he has continued to have episodes and the last one was severe enough to cause a cataract in this eye, too. I know the reserachers would be interested and have even discussed the use of DMSO with another Equine opthamologist at AM -- he said it stings them too much so they must have been using higher than 10%. None of them have mentioned resolving cataracts after they formed, only preventing them by controling the episodic inflammation. Please feel free to mail me off list if you feel this is not on topic. I have been using a CS DMSO eye spray to control inflammation during this last episode. It did help with the drainage and kept the inflammation from developing as much as previous episodes. Thanks so much and sorry for the long message. Garnet On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 00:35, Brooks Bradley wrote: e have enjoyed quite measured success with DMSO as a major component in protocols addressing cataracts in horsesand experimental human volunteers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
