RE: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?
Double check the muscle test with a blood test? Ode At 08:41 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote: Oops, you're right. Still, why hasn't the CS gotten rid of it? -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it? Isn't strep a bacterium? Ode At 12:01 AM 9/22/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hello all-- A question: My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus, discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if my adrenal glands were working right.] I have been regularly drinking 4 oz. of CS at 8 ppm. I have upped this to 6 oz. It's been several weeks and I am still testing positive, according to the muscle test. Any thoughts about this? Thanks Theresa --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.765 / Virus Database: 512 - Release Date: 9/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.765 / Virus Database: 512 - Release Date: 9/16/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.765 / Virus Database: 512 - Release Date: 9/16/2004
Re: CSStrep virus--why do I still have it?
First off, all forms of strep are bacteria not virus. If your chiropractor told you it was a strep VIRUS then that person is showing ignorance so great that I would not believe anything further that person had to say medically. http://www.rockefeller.edu/vaf/strep.htm Is it possible to get a false positive or misinterpret the results of a muscle test? David Bearrow On 22 Sep 2004 at 0:01, tlwid...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hello all-- A question: My chiropractor tells me I am carrying a strep virus, discovering this during a session of muscle testing. [initial test to see if my adrenal glands were working right.] I have been regularly drinking 4 oz. of CS at 8 ppm. I have upped this to 6 oz. It's been several weeks and I am still testing positive, according to the muscle test. Any thoughts about this? Thanks Theresa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: Nebulizer vs ultrasonic....
They both work the same way in different volumes of water by vibrating a peizo disk at ultrasonic frequencies. [30,000 cycles per second and up?] A peizo disk is like a speaker..in fact, are used as high range tweeters these days. The nebulizer might work at a higher frequency more suited to moving smaller volumes of mist. I believe a higher frequency would make for smaller droplets but make producing large volumes of mist to be moved over a greater distance more difficult. Imagine the difference between a woofer facing up with pepples on it compared to a tweeter with sand grains. ode At 02:58 PM 9/22/2004 -0400, you wrote: CS Gang... Can anyone describe the way a nebulizer works?? I know how the ultrasonic vaporizer works,, but not the nebulizer, which is supposed to create smaller droplets. Thanks folks, Tom Bassett WM2M -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Fwd:Silver Nuggets Newsletter and Sale Reminder (4 of 6
I asked William about this and he says his motive for posting the material was the numerous testimonials. He explained that he has no ties to the company in question. ...Sale Reminder...? NOW I get it. jr Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is an article that appeared in the Star Tribune in Mpls. MN QUEST FOR CURE ENDS IN MINNESOTAN'S DEATH Warren Wolfe, Star Tribune September 23, 2004 BIBEAU0923 Katherine Bibeau was like June Cleaver with an attitude, said her husband, David. Cook, bake, knit, garden, church, Boy Scouts -- and take charge of her illness. Bibeau, of Cottage Grove, boarded a plane for South Carolina last March, excited that an unorthodox treatment by a physician might slow or even reverse the progressive and debilitating symptoms of her multiple sclerosis. Instead, a pathologist determined days later, the first of three planned injections of hydrogen peroxide killed Bibeau, 53, a medical technologist. Officials have begun a criminal investigation, and on Wednesday, her family filed suit in a federal court in Columbia, S.C., accusing Dr. James Michael Shortt of causing her death. Shortt refused Wednesday to comment before conferring with his attorney. He was reached while more than a dozen law enforcement officials searched his office. David Bibeau Carlos Gonzalez Star Tribune They removed medical records and copied computer files. Met on blind date Bibeau was an identical twin who grew up and graduated from college in Nebraska, where her mother still lives. Her father was a teacher and school principal. She met David Bibeau in 1976 on a blind date in North Carolina while he was in the Air Force. They were married in Minnesota in 1978 and lived in St. Paul. She began working as a medical technologist at Bethesda Hospital, then moved to the Veterans Administration Medical Center in 1984. In her work, she took blood, urine and other body samples from patients and tested them. The couple moved to Cottage Grove several years later. Their sons, ages 19 and 21, live at home. Katherine Bibeau She loved to do stuff, her husband said. She liked her garden, liked to cook and loved to bake. She did all sorts of crafts. And she was always having me fix things. When something broke, I'd be ready to buy a new one, but she'd read up on it -- maybe take a class if she couldn't find the right book -- and tell me how to fix it, he said. When her MS was diagnosed in October 2001, she took about six months off work and learned about the disease, reading books, magazines and Internet articles. She returned to work two days a week. MS is an inflammatory disease that attacks the insulation surrounding nerve fibers. It generally is considered incurable and progressive. A wide range of symptoms can include numbness, incontinence, memory loss and difficulties with speech, walking, grasping and other movement. We believed in the medical doctors and neurologists, but she didn't want to stop there, David Bibeau said. They altered their diet to include less processed food, added vitamins and took medication to treat tremors in her hand. We really concentrated on the present, on how to make the best of things now, he said. In the back of our minds, I'm sure we thought about how the disease might progress, but we really concentrated on how to have the best quality of life right now. Search for help David Bibeau said he's not sure how his wife found Dr. Shortt or learned about what practitioners call oxidation therapy. On advice of his lawyers, Richard Gergel in Columbia and Warren Bigelow in Wayzata, he would not say specifically what the family expected from Shortt's treatments. A biography of Shortt on the Cancer Control Society Web site says he majored in emergency medicine at Madonna University, Livonia, Mich., and received his medical degree from the University of the Caribbean in Montserrat. For a time he practiced at the Medical College of Wisconsin in Wauwatosa. He moved to South Carolina in 1996 and is listed as medical director of Health Dimensions Clinic in West Columbia. Those who use hydrogen peroxide argue that taken orally or injected, it has been effective in fighting or preventing numerous diseases. They say that the diseases develop or thrive in bodies lacking sufficient oxygen, and that hydrogen peroxide -- a molecule with two atoms of oxygen and two of hydrogen -- can increase the body's oxygen, fighting off disease. Although hydrogen peroxide must be labeled for external use only, the unorthodox treatment has been credited by some practitioners with helping treat more than two dozen diseases, including cancer, asthma, emphysema, AIDS, arthritis, heart disease and Alzheimer's disease. Start of treatment Katherine Bibeau stayed with her twin sister in South Carolina when she first saw Shortt in October 2003. He conducted blood and hair tests, looking for traces of heavy metal, viruses or bacteria that he said might cause the disease, the lawsuit says. Shortt was unable to identify any such virus or bacteria from his laboratory studies [but] nevertheless recommended intravenous hydrogen peroxide therapy, the lawsuit says, telling her the
CSRe: Fwd:Silver Nuggets Newsletter and Sale Reminder (4 of 6
...Sale Reminder...? NOW I get it. jr -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
