Re: CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread Ken & Nancy
Hey Sol,
I can sympathize with you, I've felt after a few bouts with cold that CS
didn't work as well as GSE.  I've tried GSE with colds and bronchitis and it
works really good. I usually would take 4 capsules of the liquid form
throught the day with food.  Just pour the liquid into empty capsules.
Admittedly, I took CS/gatorade and GSE in the same day, but the CS/gatorade
alone never did a whole lot for me.

Ken


- Original Message -
From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Sinus Infection


> Richard,
>   I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you
> suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for
> the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a
> "normal" course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some
> secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all-
> I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose
> drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days
> there), in order to stop it going into  a secondary sinus infection and
> to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that
> for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't
>   My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have
> found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just
> settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per
> oz of CS.
>Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have
> a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and
> DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some
> research or other writing on it somewhere?
> Thanks,
> sol
>
>
> Richard Harris wrote:
>
>
> >>Hi Sol,
> >>
> >>Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2
> >>parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes,
> >>then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4
cc
> >>H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add
> >>your MSM & DMSO.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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CS>problem replying to list

2004-10-07 Thread sol

Hi all,
 I cannot reply to any silverlist message. All my replies get returned. 
Then I have to do a whole cut and paste of everything into a new email 
and that way it goes through, but it is a big inconvenience. This has 
been going on for many days now.
 Any ideas? So far this isn't happening to any of my other email list 
memberships, just the silverlist.

sol


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RE: CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread sol

Richard,
 I have actually been taking mouthfuls of CS-gatorade exactly as you 
suggest many, many times per day, and have been doing so every day for 
the whole damn 13 days I have had this cold. The cold is following a 
"normal" course, anyway. The CS-gatorade may be helping keep away some 
secondary stuff, but frankly it doesn't seem to be doing much at all-
I really did have to nebulize the CS-MSM-DMSO and also use it as nose 
drops, and sinus wash (alternated with CS-Xylitol for a couple days 
there), in order to stop it going into  a secondary sinus infection and 
to stop it going into my lungs, too. The oral use just does not do that 
for me. I don't know why, but it just doesn't
 My mix for nebbing and nose drops is similar to yours, but I have 
found that 1 tsp msm to 1 oz CS makes a saturated solution, more just 
settles out. I can't handle more than about 2 or 3 drops of 70% DMSO per 
oz of CS.
  Is it really ok to use DMSO in a solution that has H202 in it? I have 
a vague recollection I read something that would say not to mix H202 and 
DMSO, but I can't remember clearly what or where that was. Is there some 
research or other writing on it somewhere?

Thanks,
sol


Richard Harris wrote:



Hi Sol,

Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2
parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes,
then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc
H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add
your MSM & DMSO.


 





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CS>Re: Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread jrowland
>From the archives:
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m66396.html
jr


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CS>

2004-10-07 Thread Matthew McCann

- Original Message - 
From: Matthew McCann 
To: Jim Holmes 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Sinus Infection


Hello, James,

Thank you for the reference to myopathy. Searle mentions
just topical use of colloidal iron against upper respiratory tract infections, 
though he alludes to internal use against chlorosis,
anaemia, erysipelas and cellulitis. He warns against iron
in compound form injected into the bloodstream because
it can act as a coagulant. In very large amounts, iron in compound form can be 
tumorgenic.

It would be interesting to see a comparison of colloidal
iron with hydrogen peroxide as a topical treatment for
URT infection.

Matthew
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: 'Matthew McCann' 
  Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:21 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>Sinus Infection


  Hi Matthew,

   

  I don't know the particulars, but there are serious toxic issues with Fe. 

   

  Myopathy is one.  

   

  Jim

   

  -Original Message-
  From: Matthew McCann [mailto:mmcc...@franciscan.edu] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:56 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>Sinus Infection

   

  On page 88 of Searle's text The Use Of Colloids In Health

  And Disease, he mentions that colloidal iron has particular

  bactericidal action "in cases of catarrh of the nose, larynx

  and pharynx" and that the colloidal form of iron is not

  affected by gastric juices, unlike iron compounds.

  Has anybody any experience with colloidal iron with

  upper respiratory infection? Can it be made by a LVDC

  method? What source of iron makes a good, pure

  electrode? Are there  toxicity issues?

  Thanks in advance for your input.

   

  Matthew


RE: CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Sol,

Sorry to hear about your problems--May I suggest you take 1 part CS + 2
parts Gatorade in mouthful doses (holding in mouth for a couple minutes,
then swallowing). Your sinus wash formula sounds very good, but I add 4 cc
H2O2 3% to a gal CS after I first generate, then to this CS/H2O2 I'd add
your MSM & DMSO.

So many ask--How much CS do I take & for how long when I get a problem? I
recommend to keep it handy and take daily regularly without interrupting to
keep your resistance built up and NOT allow the bugs to bother you. I also
am a great believer in misting eyes and ears and hands several times a day
upon exposure.

Best regards,
___
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448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
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www.myseahealth.com/reh
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RE: CS>Re:CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Bob,

Sorry to hear of your problems. If I had them, I'd increase oral intake of
CS + gatorade to at least 4 doses daily--some people take 1 qt of CS daily
(I don't recommend that, but if I needed that much I'd certainly do it). I'd
go to Walgreens and get a $25 personal, ultrasonic Humiidifier and mix my
formula:
To 1 gal CS (10ppm) upon completion of generating, I add 4 cc H2O2 3%. 
Pour
4 oz. of this CS/H2O2 into a glass bowl or mortar and add and dissolve 3
heaping tablespoonfuls of MSM, stirring for awhile until all that will
dissolve, does. Decant (pour off) the clear CS/H2O2/MSM into a 6 oz. bottle;
To 4 oz of this CS/H2O2/MSM Sol, add 1 oz. DMSO 99+% (always pour DMSO into
other liquid, as it gets hot, then cools). Soak Nebulizer wick in CS for a
few minutes & insert into nebulizer, fill nebulizer tank with
CS/H2O2?MSM/DMSO Sol (about 4 oz--lasts 4 hrs on one fill if run all the
time; however, to use, I recommend that you blow out all air in lungs and
immediately hold open mouth over nebulizer, switch ON nebulizer and inhale
as deeply as possible, switching OFF and holding breath as long as
comfortable--exhale, and repeat process for at least 5 deep breaths or 5
minutes; repeat this as often daily as needed. The reason for switching ON
only as long as you are inhaling is to conserve medication--after all you
don't want to medicate the room or house. Use the same wick for a long time,
always making sure it is wet to begin with--I'd reverse ends each time I
removed and wetted.

Check my Site (it's being up-graded and expanded) and let me know if I can
be of help. I sell the Humidifier and the CS/H2O2/MSM/DMSO Sol. for $10 for
5 oz; $50 for 1 qt. should prefer NOT to make your own.

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
www.myseahealth.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com



-Original Message-
From: William Amos [mailto:wa...@mailstation.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re:CS>Sinus Infection


In addition to the nebulizer I put about 5 drops of CS up  each nostril and
continue to lay back until I feel it working

Bill Amos
--
Well I have another one of my  many Sinus Infections.
I take CS and 2 parts Gatorade on a regular basis (a juice glass every
morning and evening,15 PPM CS).
I use CS in my Nebulizer Daily usually 1 or 2 times a day although lately I
have been using it 3 or 4.
I am on Biaxin 500 MG twice a day, which is helping (for 14 days with a
refill if necessary).
In the past I some time had to take the Antibiotics for 28 days. Although I
am coughing up a lot (clear) I do not feel bad.
Years ago before I was on CS I use to get really bad in chest and felt
terrible every time I got a Sinus infection.
At the start I could feel the pressure in my Sinuses and had head aches. It
seems the CS stops infection from getting too bad in the chest. This usually
happens at least twice a year.
Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in,  Building
where I  work has a basement which is open to the heating air return, not to
mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement. We are below sewage line
and sewage is pumped into line. Sewage lines are usually covered but are
probably not air tight. I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these
problems. I wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more
often in day would help.
Open to suggestions and ideas.

 Bob

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CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread Matthew McCann
On page 88 of Searle's text The Use Of Colloids In Health
And Disease, he mentions that colloidal iron has particular
bactericidal action "in cases of catarrh of the nose, larynx
and pharynx" and that the colloidal form of iron is not
affected by gastric juices, unlike iron compounds.
Has anybody any experience with colloidal iron with
upper respiratory infection? Can it be made by a LVDC
method? What source of iron makes a good, pure
electrode? Are there  toxicity issues?
Thanks in advance for your input.

Matthew

CS>Re:CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread William Amos
In addition to the nebulizer I put about 5 drops of CS up  each nostril and 
continue to lay back until I feel it working 

Bill Amos
--
Well I have another one of my  many Sinus Infections.
I take CS and 2 parts Gatorade on a regular basis (a juice glass every morning 
and evening,15 PPM CS).
I use CS in my Nebulizer Daily usually 1 or 2 times a day although lately I 
have been using it 3 or 4.
I am on Biaxin 500 MG twice a day, which is helping (for 14 days with a refill 
if necessary).
In the past I some time had to take the Antibiotics for 28 days. Although I am 
coughing up a lot (clear) I do not feel bad.
Years ago before I was on CS I use to get really bad in chest and felt terrible 
every time I got a Sinus infection.
At the start I could feel the pressure in my Sinuses and had head aches. It 
seems the CS stops infection from getting too bad in the chest. This usually 
happens at least twice a year.
Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in,  Building  
where I  work has a basement which is open to the heating air return, not to 
mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement. We are below sewage line and 
sewage is pumped into line. Sewage lines are usually covered but are probably 
not air tight. I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these problems. I 
wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more often in day would 
help.
Open to suggestions and ideas.
 
 Bob

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Re: CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread sol
What aborts sinus infection for me is using nose drops/sinus wash of 
CS-MSM-DMSO my recipe (vary for your comfort) is 1 oz CS, 1 tsp pure msm 
powder, and 2 or 3 drops DMSO (70%).
My first cold in 2 years is still hanging on, but as I was starting to 
get better I slacked off on the large amounts of CS I was drinking, and 
cut bact on all other forms of CS use. When I saw signs of incipient 
sinus infection I immediately started with the nose drops by filling my 
sinuses with my mix, hanging my head off the edge of the bed as long as 
I could stand it to let it stay in the sinuses. Followed by twice daily 
nose drops. In less than 24 hours the budding sinus infection was gone, 
but the cold lingers on. I also nebulized with the same mix when I felt 
this cold going into my lungs. So far so goodno secondary 
infections. In pre-CS years I'd have been on Z-packs by now, with 
serious sinus infection and bronchitis.
Some of us are just WAY more susceptible to the cold virus and sinus 
infections than others, it seems. I have also been taking supplements 
like crazy, and still have the cold, which is taking it's own sweet time 
leaving.  The only thing that stops me getting them in the first place 
is totally dedicated misting of hands and eyes whenever I am exposed. 
This means faithfully spraying during or immediately after every single 
shopping expedition, etc. Having slacked off on all fronts, and gotten 
this darn stubborn cold, it will likely be some time before laziness 
sets in again. Oral CS alone, of any amount at all from 2 oz to a pint 
or more daily, has never stopped me getting a cold. I have to stop the 
bugs at the entrance so to speak, as once they get in the body, all I 
can hope for is stopping complications.

sol


Medwith, Robert wrote:


Well I have another one of my  many Sinus Infections.
I take CS and 2 parts Gatorade on a regular basis (a juice glass every 
morning and evening,15 PPM CS).
I use CS in my Nebulizer Daily usually 1 or 2 times a day although 
lately I have been using it 3 or 4.
I am on Biaxin 500 MG twice a day, which is helping (for 14 days with 
a refill if necessary).

In the past I some time had to take the Antibiotics for 28 days.
Although I am coughing up a lot (clear) I do not feel bad.
Years ago before I was on CS I use to get really bad in chest and felt 
terrible every time I got a Sinus infection.

At the start I could feel the pressure in my Sinuses and had head aches.
It seems the CS stops infection from getting too bad in the chest.
This usually happens at least twice a year.
Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in,
Building  where I  work has a basement which is open to the heating 
air return, not to mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement.

We are below sewage line and sewage is pumped into line.
Sewage lines are usually covered but are probably not air tight.
I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these problems.
I wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more often in 
day would help.

Open to suggestions and ideas.
 
 Bob




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RE: CS>Question about coconuts...

2004-10-07 Thread ransley
Clop-clop, clop-clop, clop-clop, clop-clop...



Herx wrote:
>I knew SOMEONE on this list must have seen Monty Python and the Holy
Grail!<


-Original Message-
From: ransley
Herx- are you suggesting that coconuts are migratory?


-Original Message-
From: herx
Mike, try using two African Swallows to carry the coconut to you.  It's
too heavy for one Swallow, and European Swallows are too small!


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CS>Sinus Infection

2004-10-07 Thread Medwith, Robert
Well I have another one of my  many Sinus Infections.
I take CS and 2 parts Gatorade on a regular basis (a juice glass every
morning and evening,15 PPM CS).
I use CS in my Nebulizer Daily usually 1 or 2 times a day although lately I
have been using it 3 or 4.
I am on Biaxin 500 MG twice a day, which is helping (for 14 days with a
refill if necessary).
In the past I some time had to take the Antibiotics for 28 days.
Although I am coughing up a lot (clear) I do not feel bad.
Years ago before I was on CS I use to get really bad in chest and felt
terrible every time I got a Sinus infection.
At the start I could feel the pressure in my Sinuses and had head aches.
It seems the CS stops infection from getting too bad in the chest.
This usually happens at least twice a year.
Personally I am wondering if is from the old building I work in, 
Building  where I  work has a basement which is open to the heating air
return, not to mention that there are 2 sewage pits in basement.
We are below sewage line and sewage is pumped into line.
Sewage lines are usually covered but are probably not air tight.
I wish I could get an IV of CS when I have these problems.
I wonder if more Gatorade and CS , either more ounces or more often in day
would help.
Open to suggestions and ideas.
 
 Bob


RE: CS>Question about coconuts...

2004-10-07 Thread Tony Moody
I think he is suggesting that they are wing nuts .

On 6 Oct 2004 at 19:37, ransley wrote:

> Herx- are you suggesting that coconuts are migratory?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: herx [mailto:her...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:29 AM
> To: eScribe Silver List
> Subject: Re: CS>Question about coconuts...
> 
> 
> Mike, try using two African Swallows to carry the coconut to you. 
> It s too heavy for one Swallow, and European Swallows are too small!


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RE: CS>Question about coconuts...

2004-10-07 Thread herx
I knew SOMEONE on this list must have seen Monty Python and the Holy
Grail!


-Original Message-
From: ransley
Herx- are you suggesting that coconuts are migratory?


-Original Message-
From: herx
Mike, try using two African Swallows to carry the coconut to you.  It's
too heavy for one Swallow, and European Swallows are too small!


-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour 
So how do I go about getting reasonably fresh coconuts here in Michigan?








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Re: CS>Question about coconuts...

2004-10-07 Thread cking001
Yeah, that's where I get mine too.
I'd recommend them.

Chuck
Why do people spend years writing a novel when they can buy one for a
few dollars?

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:59:41 -0700, Trem  wrote:

>  http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/mall/virgin_coconut_oil.asp
>
>Trem



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