CS>dmso and collodial silver
Someone posted a while back about a web site that you can purchase a low dose dmso. I believe it may have been 5 per cent. Does anyone know of a place that sells this. Also, you can now buy liquid msm and i was wondering how that would help penetrate the cs into jaw tissues for infection.Thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>xylitol and CS
In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:11:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Hi Brickley, Where did you get the info that Xylitol feed Aspergillus? Paul Holloway (silver-List) saw Aspergillus growing inside of a Xylitol bottle. Brickey
CS>What can I say?
What can I say that everybody else hasn't already? Welcome back, Brooks! You've been missed. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Rejoining List. Brooks.
Glad to hear you're back. I've been using the cs/oxygen/airbrush method you came up with. I use 500mg niacin to make a niacin flush every second day and while inhaling the CS. I skip the DMSO and MSM because they make me feel funny. But I up the amount of CS I inhale each day to 2 or 3 full little Harbor Freight airbrush bottles. HF is selling them for $5 this month. At least my local one was. I bought one for backup and should have bought 3 more at that price D - Original Message - From: "Brooks Bradley" To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:55 PM Subject: CS>Rejoining List Hello Folks, I am rejoining the listprimarily as an interested recipient. The immediately-past months have been busy and somewhat demanding of mine and Sylvia's time. Additionally, my co-founding Foundation partner and dearest friend of fifty years (Eric Harborne) passed away the last week of December, 2004---climaxing an overly-eventful year for us. I have missed the comradeship of the members on the Silver-List, and certainly, the enthusiastic efforts of all to share their talents and experiences. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>
jdr...@lisco.com sent this to the list, but with HTML formatting that made it huge. Hopefully this pure-text version will go through. Be well, Mike D. --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:21:42 -0800 From: To: "Silver List" Subject:60 Minutes Features Story on a Single Death as Coverage on the 55,000 Vioxx Deaths Fades From the Headlines http://www.mercola.com/2005/jan/22/hydrogen_peroxide.htm 60 Minutes Features Story on a Single Death as Coverage on the 55,000 Vioxx Deaths Fades From the Headlines Dr. Mercola's Comment: On Wednesday, Jan. 12, 2005, the TV show, 60 Minutes, did a story on Dr. Jim Shortt, a physician from North Carolina, who is accused of murdering a patient because he intravenously infused hydrogen peroxide as a treatment. Allegedly, the hydrogen peroxide produced bubbles in the patient's bloodstream that eventually caused multiple organ failure and cardiac arrest. Using IV oxidative medicine is not something I have done before as the simple, less aggressive approaches of diet optimization, exercise programs and emotional work have been so useful for most of my patients. However, I suspect this therapy, properly applied, could be beneficial to many, and it is sad to see it being vulcanized in the popular press. The mass media focus on Dr. Shortt has sparked a lot of controversy, confusion and debate. A friend of mine and respected colleague, Robert Jay Rowen, MD, who is president of the International Oxidation Medicine Association, asked me if I would therefore publish his insights below to help clear the air, which I urge everyone to read. The press is concerned about one death that, upon further examination, as you will note below, might not even be related to the treatment. I certainly don't want to minimize anyone's death, but more than 55,000 people died from taking Vioxx and we are not seeing in excess of 50,000 times the press on this issue. In fact, we are not seeing much coverage of the Vioxx horror at all from the mass media relative to that drug disaster. Shouldn't a situation responsible for so many deaths be dominating our national headlines still, as the tsunami disaster has been? Shouldn't responsible journalists like those at 60 Minutes and all the other major TV news programs be relentlessly probing Merck and the FDA to find out all the responsible parties for the Vioxx disaster and ensure justice is served? Why would they possibly run a "scare" story on a single physician who may or may not have been responsible for a single person's tragic death when more than 55,000 deaths have occurred due to some very serious issues with the drug companies and the FDA? Shouldn't the network news magazines, with the amount of people they reach, be diligently focused on making sure people are very wary of taking pharmaceuticals, even if they are "FDA approved," since the single FDA-approved drug Vioxx has killed more than 55,000? Well, they should be. But then, we have to ask where the priorities of some in the mass media might really reside. We have to remember that the drug companies, including Merck, collectively "contribute" more than $3 billion a year on consumer advertising of their pharmaceuticals, most of it to the major television networks. If only Dr. Shortt had the foresight to contribute $3 billion in advertising with the mass media, I'm quite convinced the story on him would never have aired. By Robert Jay Rowen, MD President, International Oxidative Medicine Association You may have heard about Dr. Jim Shortt in South Carolina. He's accused of murdering one his patients, Mrs. Katherine Bibeau, by giving her intravenous hydrogen peroxide. Maybe you read the story in your local paper or saw the hatchet job CBS did on 60 Minutes. In charging Dr. Shortt with murder, the coroner and pathologist claim this woman died as a result of bubbles in her bloodstream. They allege these bubbles were caused by the hydrogen peroxide infusion Dr. Shortt gave his patient. But this is absolutely impossible. Let me tell you why. Why Peroxide Therapy Is Safe Hydrogen peroxide therapy uses the same stuff you pour on your cuts, but at much lower concentrations. The doctor takes a half-teaspoon of peroxide and dilutes it in 81/2 ounces of sugar water. That means, the peroxide Mrs. Bibeau received was just 1/100th as strong as the stuff you put on cuts. When you put hydrogen peroxide on a cut, you get bubbles. Those bubbles are simply the hydrogen peroxide releasing oxygen. When the peroxide enters the bloodstream, it releases oxygen there too. The roughly half-teaspoon of peroxide the doctor uses will release about 25 cc of oxygen. And since it is administered through an IV, it doesn't go in all at once but over the course of two hours
CS>Welcome back, Brooks
So good to have you back. Hope you and yours are well and happy. pj __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tetrasil, etc.
I don't know all that much about it. I worked with Jason on the subject for a while and apparently there are number of important variables that a handle needs to form on concerning the right amount of current and current density for given applications. I think that much of that depends of how much electrode, where and what sort of conductive creame or whatever is used. I 'think' that it can be user adjusted, like, if it doesn't tingle and some current is flowing through the desired area..that might be OK. And there are a number of ways to make it not tingle..and pay some attention to ion flow direction. Whatever the conductive cream is made of will be important too. It seems likely that anything in that will also enter through the skin in charged ionic forms. ..all that to do it "right" To do it so it "works", well, anything goes that doesn't hurt, make burned spots etc? The ions will travel if current flows and voltage is over, what, 1.2 volts? If using silver with a godziller works and doesn't make other problems? Why not? Cutting ones head off with a butcher knife will certainly cure a toothache. [Just kidding] Now, getting silver ions 'into' a relatively non conductive and solid medium like a toenail...could be a fairly high voltage challange. Making a high concentration in a localized area near the cuticle and doing a lot of waiting might be the only way to go. Ode At 10:45 AM 1/21/2005 -0500, you wrote: > > >At 10:05 PM 18/01/05, you wrote: > >>I think I'll try iontophorisis soon by wrapping silver wires around the >>wetted toe and applying a little current. [Direct 'on site' silver >>generation and injection through the skin...and blood electrification by >>default] >> >>Ode > >Hi. Regarding the info above, I have some questions and I'm looking for >more info. > >Would this be like using silver electrodes in my GodZiller? I've used >silver electrodes instead of the steel cotter pins in my Ziller ever since >I made it over a year ago. I kind of had that same idea as above but didn't >know what it was called. I noticed that it works fabulously on a tooth >ache/gum infection I get occasionally on one of my back molars. I put one >silver electrode (wrapped in the cotton covering and soaked in CS) on one >side of the tooth and the other electrode held on the other side of the >tooth, then Zill. There is a huge difference after just one application. >Much less sore and swelling. After a few applications of 15 minutes each, >over the course of a day, soreness was gone and so was swelling. > >I didn't know if it was the Ziller's effect or the combination of the >Ziller and the Silver/CS. Your thoughts would be appreciated. I want to >use this combo in a multi-pair electrode set-up for use on/around my liver >area for my Hep. C. Do you think it would be better than the Ziller >itself? > >On a different item, I have to state that I've had great success with using >CS internally against my G. herpes infections. When I start getting the >signs, the soreness in my thigh, buttcheek, etc.. areas, I start drinking >the CS I make using the 3- 9 volt batteries/distilled water. The sores >never appear or are only there for a day and then disappear. If I drink >the CS everyday, I never get the breakouts. It's when I slack off, they >come back. > >Is there a way to use the Ziller against the G. herpes? Since it's a nerve >virus, would zilling the areas where the soreness starts be helpful? >Anyone try this before? > >Thanks, >Christine Mc. > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005
Re: CS>Solubility of silver chloride in HCl and NaCl
A If you start with 1 oz of 10 ppm EIS, that will >typically have about 9 ppm of silver hydroxide in it. ## Might want to check and see how soluable silver hydroxide is. It's listed as "insoluable". Seems like there would be very little if any in the EIS and lots of it stuck to an electrode or forming a white spot on the bottom where an ion track might be contacting the container under that electrode producing a fall-off path. [To coin yet another phrase] Typically such a path [at its worst] would consist of a black spot and a white spot, one under each electrode, with a shiny silver plate-out sheet between them [nearly impossible to scrub off]. ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>basic dumb question
## Well sure. The questions pertain more towards what happens if the silver ion 'doesn't' find a hydroxl ion and why, maybe, it's only a strong tendency rather than a mandate. If making stable compounds were an 'absolute mandate', the CS water probably wouldn't have such a long unstable state. If a silver ion can 'associate and orientate' itself with the hydroxl portion of a 'non' dissociated water molecule without actually making a compound...that might could prevent a hydroxl ion from finding it to some degree by hiding it's electron hole to some degree. OH is a gas? Could it just bubble off to some extent, leaving 'some' silver ions with nowhere to go, leaving them with choice #2. [Loose association with an occupied OH vs tightly bonded compound with a previously unoccupied OH]? If AgO can be formed, apparently there are some O1 atoms running about looking for something to do and they might not all do any one given thing...same for the hydrogen? Could a Hydroxl ion 'Not' find a silver ion and get together with another hydrogen atom to turn back into water as 'its' choice #2? It's my vauge and maybe erronious understanding that a silver particle can accumulate a minus charge from the Zeta. It's probably not quite the same as an ionic charge, but could that minus zeta be similar enough have a stabilizing effect and attraction for a plus charged silver ion? If some ions are orienting towards an occupied OH in a water molecule and are also attracting zeta charged metal, I see a sort of potential for a 'charge protected' crystal lattice structure forming around a water molecule as its nucleus...and another oriented varient using a silver oxide molecule. Silver hydroxide is virtually insoluable in water [listed as "insoluable"]...one of the few hydroxides that aren't extremely soluable in water. If it's that insoluable, it doesn't seem likely to concentrate in solution. It's also stable enough that you can buy it in powder form. That doesn't suggest spontanious conversions to silver oxide to me. Another thing that doesn't get mentioned much: Many of the various deposits found in various places, regardless of color, will leave a shiny silver smear when wiped onto a surface and there's that silver slick that sometimes forms on top. There's definitely some metallic silver running about. Ode At 03:17 PM 1/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >Ode Coyote wrote: > >> Dissolved Compounds still remain those compounds and don't change into >> something else when the water is removed. >> A free silver ion isn't likely to be very stable and very much wants to >> share an electron with something. > >Solutions by their very nature are always neutral. If you have an Ag+ ion, >there has to be a (-) ion to balance it. The two together will define the >compound. For freshly made EIS the negative ion is the hydroxyl ion, IE OH-, >so the silver compound in EIS is actually silver hydroxide. At higher >concentrations, silver hydroxide tends to become unstable, and will >spontaneouly convert to silver oxide. This could be part of the aging process >that occurs when EIS sits, not sure. > >> >> >> Question: >> Does it HAVE to "share", or can it's desires be passified as an 'onlooker' >> or 'groupie', so to speak? >> Can a free silver ion 'associate' [identify?] itself... around and with... >> a water molecules opposite valence oxygen componant and become at least >> 'more' stable without actually becoming a 'compound' made from out of that >> water molecule? ...a protective attraction vs an absolute reaction.. > >A silver ion will tend to attact the OH portion of a water molecule, producing >silver hydroxide. The remaining H will find a matching one, and form H2 which >may remain dissolved or be outgassed over time. > >> >> >> Can a cluster of silver atoms that include one or more ions on it's surface >> to present an ionic 'appearance' to the water molecules also be included in >> such an attraction? > >A cluster of silver atoms do often obtain a charge. They are not ions per say >I don't believe but just a cluster with a charge. The charge is referred to as >the zeta when it is measured. The higher the charge or zeta, the more stable >the colloidal portion is. If they have no charge, then they will precipitate. > >Marshall > >> >> >> Warning: Any in depth explanation one way or the other will probably >> confuse me. >> Simple answers? Yes, no , maybe sometimes? >> >> Ode >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> OT Archive: http:/
Re: CS>New and improved CS
I think they're trying to break something into the mainstream market and that something has to be unique in order to accomplish that goal. Since it's not 'really' unique, they have to fake it. Since they are faking it, they're not likely to challange anyone or come down on the little guy. In the meantime, something real is getting out and doing amazing things...promoting the reality of CS in general by going around existing mainstream lies with more lies. It's a mirrors and smoke against smoke and mirrors ploy. The 'real deal' has a bad rep due to mainstream slight of hand...ie...for no good reason, but reasoning with the unreasonable is a fools game. Essentially, they're producing a real rabbit using slight of hand by calling the rabbit a chicken. Nobody wants to hear about slaughtering the Sacred Easter Bunny. No, we're not killin rabbits...it's a chicken. Now eat your rabbit wrapped in a feather suit. So, "crooks" might be a little harsh. Extremly slick opportunists, perhaps. Everything about them is like a "Teflon Banana Peel", but the banana itself just might turn out be the bonanza fruit for us all. If they get a big first bite, that doesn't bother me. They did, after all, open a blindly slammed and well defended door. [If they manage to pull it off] Nor does whoever uses chicken soup to cure a cold, later finding fur under the feathers. If it works and can't hurtand people will try it if you call the barking cat 'Fido'... what difference does it make if you know the animals name before hand? One day the truth might blind-side everyone who can't look at it now. Fact is, I see a LOT of activity along those lines by a lot of major coroporate concerns...not just American Biotech. Curead bandaids? Agion Technologies? ..maybe Sterling Pharm. BIG players. So, yea..it's a con job. A distraction game. Reverse bait and switch. But so is using security and freedom in the same sentence to sell insurance that everyone really believes they need anyhow, but don't want to look at that need. Buy this big honker of an SUV and stroke your ego! The fine print... [..it's fuel cell run and gets 50 MPG, never mind that you're in this show room for the shear status.] Ode > > Thanks for posting the info on Clifton Mining. I'm pretty sure they > are crooks. > >Mike Monett > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005
Re: CS>Rejoining List
Welcome back Brooks - may many blessings be yours for a wonderful 2005 it is a new year with new experiences - changes are never welcomed but they turn out to be just what is needed sometimes much as we may kick and scream all the way to the bank, so pick up your sticks and march forward, we missed you and are happy to have you back - Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
- Original Message - From: "David W Kenney" To: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: RE: CS> Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc. > Excellent Nenah > There is so much more to all of this isn't there. > I should have mentioned the 'parasite' theory as well as proposed by Dr. > Clark and yourself. > And, you are right as an allopathically trained doctor I have to really > strain somewhat to think in the alternative linesbut I'm getting > there... I didn't know that CS might help with parasites...Thank you. Hi Dave. I may have inadvertently given the impression that colloidal silver can outright kill parasites. CS disables one-celled organisms. However, sometimes one-celled microbes live inside more complex organisms. Once the complex parasites are destroyed or disabled, the one-celled organisms inside them can be handled with CS. Sorry for any confusion. By the way, have I mentioned sauna therapy? As simple as it sounds, heating the body is one of the *best ways* to detoxify and get rid of infections. It's all in my sauna therapy book. Blessings, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy http://www.nenahsylver.com Holistic health products, supplements and services -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>cold feet
On 21 Jan 2005 at 17:16, Denise Rollheiser wrote: > > > snip > Isuffered from cold feet (internal core cold NOT cold to touch) in > 1998 after the radioactive isotope drink to deal with my overactive > thyroid; this symptom went away when my thyroid counts were better > under control. I have again been living with 'core cold feet' since my > Thank you. snip> > Denise > Saskatoon, Sk Canada > neec...@sasktel.net > Hi Denise, Some other suggestions: "Working" your toes might re-establish pathways. A Reflexologist or Polarity Therapist near you could do this for you and teach you how to do it at home. If you want some details then I could write it up for you. But the touch is so very important. Also leg rubs, walking, warm foot baths, walking barefoot, lymph drainage. You could look at magnesium supplementation, probably in conjuction with calcium. Ozone by bagging the leg (or legs) I think that this could be caused (among other things) by stress chemicals which have not had a chance to be eliminated. So almost anything that helps to improve elimination! Skin brushing is very useful. And anything that helps to cope and deal with stress! Watching your CS making process is a great soothing, calming meditation. Be very well. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
