Re: CSbasic dumb question
Oh Lordy Yet another anomoly. When reagent manufacturers can't agree... Could be a factor involved with this process vs just adding water to AgOH? That 13 PPM keeps on popping up. Could be, Marshall Ode At 11:08 AM 1/24/2005 -0500, you wrote: I have found several sites that claim that silver hydroxide is insoluble. However I also have found the following, the second one give in fact, the solubility of silver hydroxide to 3 significant digits as 13.3 ppm. This link http://chemmovies.unl.edu/chemistry/smallscale/SS063c.html I believe intends to say that silver chloride is less soluble than silver hydroxide. That would mean it has a solubility greater than .89 ppm. See #4. However they did mess it up and say that silver hydroxide is less soluble than silver hydroxide by mistake. According to http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Solubility_Products.PDF the solubility of silver hydroxide is 13.3 ppm, which is what we often quote as the stable limit for ionic silver on this list. I feel this support the notion that the silver in EIS is predominately silver hydroxide. http://www.northland.cc.mn.us/Chemistry/solubility_products.htm lists silver hydroxide as having a solubility (Ksp) of 2.0X10-8, compared with 1.6X10-10 for silver chloride. That would make silver hydroxide soluble than silver chloride, but the exact difference would depend on the stoichiometry of the precipitant. http://home.snu.edu/dept/chemistry/syllabi/ARCHIVES/CHEM1224/LABEXP~1/SILVE R~1.PDF shows the solubility Ksp of silver hydroxide to be 2.0 X 10-8 and silver chloride to be 1.8 X 10-10 which is close to what the above reference shows it. I feel these support the notion that the silver in EIS is predominately silver hydroxide which has a low solubility, but one that is sufficient for typically EIS. Marshall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSolubility of silver chloride in HCl and NaCl
At 10:16 AM 1/24/2005 -0500, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: A If you start with 1 oz of 10 ppm EIS, that will typically have about 9 ppm of silver hydroxide in it. ## Might want to check and see how soluable silver hydroxide is. It's listed as insoluable. @@@ Searched a bunch of sites a while back to include reagent manufacturers...typically I ran across this below... [But no figures on how insoluble] http://www.ausetute.com.au/solrules.html Rules for Learning the Solubility of Ionic Compounds in Water ### Hydroxide OH- + alkali ions (Li+,Na+,K+,Rb+,Cs+,Fr+), H+(aq),NH4+,Sr2+,Ba2+,Ra2+,Tl+ = soluble strontium hydroxide, Sr(OH)2, is soluble + any other cation = low solubility (insoluble) silver hydroxide, AgOH, is insoluble (forms a precipitate) ### [An example of low solubility being 'called' insolubility] Chloride (Cl-), Bromide (Br-), Iodide (I-) + silver (Ag+), lead (Pb2+), mercury (Hg2+), copper (Cu+), thallium (Tl+)= low solubility (insoluble) silver chloride, AgCl, forms a white precipitate (a white solid) + any other cation= soluble potassium bromide, KBr, is soluble I have searched far and wide for information on silver hydroxide, and all I could ever find was that it tends to become silver oxide over time. Where did you find this information? ## UH, I didn't find it? [Wild supposition based on no mention of this being a problem when handling AgOH powder after looking at many many chemical suppliers websites] The apparent catalytic action of copper in EIS might be a clue to something. Drop a shiny piece into a strong batch of EIS and watch conductivity, TE and deposits over a week or so. Check out copper and deposits when still wet and dry. Interesting. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMore on the Off Topic List...
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CSFW: Burned hand
Coments any one What would happen if I soaked my Left Hand Finger Tips in Bleach, would this whiten my nails. My Wife is worried about how my nails look. Bob -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:19 AM To: 'cs' Subject: Burned hand I wrote before on burning my hand with a Plasma Cutter, well it will only be 2 weeks tomorrow. My hand is a lot better, I soaked it a couple of times in warm CS. My finger nails and thumb nail on injured hand have turned very dark compared to other hand. Did I soak up some CS into hand, did the CS go right to my finger nails. Or is some how related to burn injury. I also constantly sprayed injury with CS. Hand is healing a lot faster than I would have thought possible. Any comments or insights would be appreciated. Bob
CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins
This question is for any one who lives in Canada. I live across border in suburbs of Detroit. If I come over to Canada where can I buy some Silver Maple Leaf coins. Where is the cheapest place, are they handled at Banks. Are Banks there open at all other than during the week. I thought the Wife and I could visit pick up some coins and stay for Dinner. Oh Yeah my wife loves the Casino's. We have option of crossing at Windsor, Ferry at 2 places on St Clair river and at Port Huron. Bob
RE: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins
Hi Bob, I can't speak for Windsor, but can speak for Toronto. The banks here are open during the week and sat. I don't know the exact times. Short day forsure. Say 3ish? There are 4 major banks run by the gov't Bank of Montreal, Bank of Commerce, TD Canada Trust, And Royal Bank of Canada. I would imagine u can buy silver coins there. All the banks sell mint. None are open Sunday Here is a number you can call: Bank of Montreal- 1-800-363-9992 give them a shout see what they say. Ernie -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:24 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins This question is for any one who lives in Canada. I live across border in suburbs of Detroit. If I come over to Canada where can I buy some Silver Maple Leaf coins. Where is the cheapest place, are they handled at Banks. Are Banks there open at all other than during the week. I thought the Wife and I could visit pick up some coins and stay for Dinner. Oh Yeah my wife loves the Casino's. We have option of crossing at Windsor, Ferry at 2 places on St Clair river and at Port Huron. Bob
CS
IAHF Webmaster: Breaking News, Codex Emergency, EU FSD, Whats New, What to Do, All Countries IAHF List: Greetings from Luxembourg! See the press release below from ANH. We had a great hearing yesterday in the EU Court of Justice, the Alliance's lead lawyer Paul Lasok QC performed flawlessly. This really the beginning, rather than the end of the road. There is a huge amount to do from here including helping US European citizens to appreciate that their ability to chose natural products to manage their health is still under enormous threat. This landmark case brought by ANH is designed to set a framework for ingredients which can be used in natural products. You'll see in the press release below, that we must wait until June before the court will make its final ruling, and we cannot speculate before this time for obvious reasons. The control of maximum dosages has now been handed over to the UN and this will now be the key battleground in months ahead. I will issue another alert tomorrow which includes a wake up call to US citizens from Rob Verkerk of ANH in an article he just had published by ACAM. This article should be circulated very widely as it will help people to connect the dots in this complex international issue. I'll be back in the USA on January 28th. ECJ ADVOCATE GENERAL DESCRIBES VITAMIN AND MINERAL BAN AS TRANSPARENT AS A BLACK BOX UK government decides not to attend court hearing to make its objections to the challenge PRESS RELEASE For immediate release 25 January 2005 EUROPEAN COURT OF JUSTICE ADVOCATE GENERAL DESCRIBES VITAMIN AND MINERAL BAN AS TRANSPARENT AS A BLACK BOX UK GOVERNMENT DECIDES NOT TO ATTEND COURT HEARING TO MAKE ITS OBJECTIONS TO THE CHALLENGE The Alliance for Natural Health today presented its oral submission to the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg in its landmark case challenging the ban in the EU Food Supplements Directive on 75% of vitamin and mineral forms currently sold in the EU market. Opposing oral submissions were made by the European Commission, the Council of Ministers, the European Parliament and only one EU Member State, Greece. UK Government does not present its objections to the challenge. Interestingly, neither the UK government nor Portugal attended to present oral arguments despite having filed Written Observations in the case. This means that none of the major EU countries felt the need to oppose the ANH's application for a declaration that the ban in the Directive was unlawful. David Hinde Solicitor and ANH Legal Director said: Given the vigour with which the UK government resisted this application at the Judicial Review stage, it was extraordinary it did not now think the issue sufficiently important to warrant being represented at the ECJ to make oral submissions. The question inevitably arises whether this signifies a change of attitude on their part and a retreat from their previously bullish position about the legality of the Directive. Paul Lasok QC, a world leading expert on EU law, representing the ANH opened the proceedings and systematically undermined the legal and scientific basis of the Directive, highlighting contradictions between various arguments put forward by the key bodies involved in developing the Directive, namely the European Commission, the Council of Ministers and the European Parliament. When asked by Judge Lenaerts as to the origin of the positive list which appeared to have been derived from an old list produced by the European Commission, and so omitted a vast array of nutrients that can normally be found in food, Mr Lasok responded: The list was put together without adding, without subtracting and without thinking. Advocate General Geelhoed, the senior judge at today's hearing, appeared to be baffled by the procedure for adding nutrients to the positive list, which he described: As transparent as a black box. Dr Robert Verkerk, executive director of the ANH said after the hearing: It was remarkable that the vast majority of points that we had gone to great length to show the Court were not countered in any effective way by the opposing parties. The Commission, the Council and the Parliament were not able to give any adequate scientific explanations for why so many forms of vitamins and minerals that naturally occur in foods could be banned across the EU. Final judgement expected in June 2005 The Advocate General announced that he would deliver his opinion on 5 April 2005, while the Court is expected to give its judgment in June, shortly before the ban would otherwise be set to come into effect on 1 August 2005. ENDS For enquiries and further information contact: Alliance for Natural Health www.alliance-natural-health.org David C. Hinde, Solicitor, Legal Director Tel: 0207 738 1640 Mobile: 07958 548 186 E-mail: dav...@alliance-natural-health.org Dr Robert Verkerk, Executive Director Tel: 01252 371 275 Mobile: 0771 484 7225 E-mail: r...@alliance-natural-health.org IKON Associates (PR for the
Re: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins
It's been my experience that all banks do not sell Maple leafs...Most coin dealers should have them.. gm Medwith, Robert wrote: This question is for any one who lives in Canada. I live across border in suburbs of Detroit. If I come over to Canada where can I buy some Silver Maple Leaf coins. Where is the cheapest place, are they handled at Banks. Are Banks there open at all other than during the week. I thought the Wife and I could visit pick up some coins and stay for Dinner. Oh Yeah my wife loves the Casino's. We have option of crossing at Windsor, Ferry at 2 places on St Clair river and at Port Huron. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
Hi Denise You sound like a great candidate for Chelation. I too have a problem with cold feet plus an awful foot itch that always comes on in the middle of the night. After 91 chelations over eight years my feet are better. I still use an electric blanket at night. My cholesterol dropped from 286 to 167 without any medications. My asthma seems to be better after 3 ultra violet blood cleanings. I also started taking a chelated magnesium last week that might be helping my asthma. Aspergilus is still in my sinuses but much less comes out per sinus flush. Brickey
Re: CSFW: Burned hand
It will wear off. When I got my thumbnail pierced, I soaked the thumb in CS and alternated that with applying straight essential lavender oil. I've done the same for a bad burn, and the nail/skin did turn an ugly brown, but it either wore off or grew out. I ignored it, as the benefits of the treatment (pain relief and fast healing) outweighed the cosmetic effects, which are temporary after all. Chlorine bleach, or even peroxide are strong enough to damage the healing tissue, and what would be the point of that just to have whiter nails? sol Medwith, Robert wrote: Coments any one What would happen if I soaked my Left Hand Finger Tips in Bleach, would this whiten my nails. My Wife is worried about how my nails look. Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 1/25/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSperipheral neuropathy
A new fat-soluble form of vitamin B1 has demonstrated significant protection against sugar toxicity at the cellular level. In Europe, this vitamin B1 derivative called benfotiamine is prescribed for those suffering from disorders related to sugar toxicity, such as peripheral neuropathy. The good news is that this nutrient has been added to popular supplements already being taken by most Life Extension members. Consumers can thus help protect themselves against the lethal dangers of excess sugar (glucose) without having to swallow more capsules or spend more money. What You Don't Know About Blood Sugar http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jan2004_awsi_01.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFW: Burned hand
Thanks for the reply Bob -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of sol Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFW: Burned hand It will wear off. When I got my thumbnail pierced, I soaked the thumb in CS and alternated that with applying straight essential lavender oil. I've done the same for a bad burn, and the nail/skin did turn an ugly brown, but it either wore off or grew out. I ignored it, as the benefits of the treatment (pain relief and fast healing) outweighed the cosmetic effects, which are temporary after all. Chlorine bleach, or even peroxide are strong enough to damage the healing tissue, and what would be the point of that just to have whiter nails? sol Medwith, Robert wrote: Coments any one What would happen if I soaked my Left Hand Finger Tips in Bleach, would this whiten my nails. My Wife is worried about how my nails look. Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 1/25/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSperipheral neuropathy
What is Life Extension? Sally Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: A new fat-soluble form of vitamin B1 has demonstrated significant protection against sugar toxicity at the cellular level. In Europe, this vitamin B1 derivative called benfotiamine is prescribed for those suffering from disorders related to sugar toxicity, such as peripheral neuropathy. The good news is that this nutrient has been added to popular supplements already being taken by most Life Extension members. Consumers can thus help protect themselves against the lethal dangers of excess sugar (glucose) without having to swallow more capsules or spend more money. What You Don't Know About Blood Sugar http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jan2004_awsi_01.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
Re: CSFW: Burned hand
Perhaps vitamin E would help. I always use it with burns. It helps restore the tissue. I just break open a capsule and rub or gently spread the contents on the burn site. Sally Medwith, Robert robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: Coments any one What would happen if I soaked my Left Hand Finger Tips in Bleach, would this whiten my nails. My Wife is worried about how my nails look. Bob -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:19 AM To: 'cs' Subject: Burned hand I wrote before on burning my hand with a Plasma Cutter, well it will only be 2 weeks tomorrow. My hand is a lot better, I soaked it a couple of times in warm CS. My finger nails and thumb nail on injured hand have turned very dark compared to other hand. Did I soak up some CS into hand, did the CS go right to my finger nails. Or is some how related to burn injury. I also constantly sprayed injury with CS. Hand is healing a lot faster than I would have thought possible. Any comments or insights would be appreciated. Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CS
Sorry it has taken so much time, but I had to do a good bit of research for this reply. You will find Frank Key's previous response (rebuttal) at: http://www.silver-colloids.com/misc/Ionic-response.htm I will post the comments back to this forum, using that page as the original document. My comments are in BOLD:: 1. Everything is soluble to some small extent, even a rock in water. The Chemical Handbook lists the solubility of AgCl to be 0.89g/100 ml of pure water. This corresponds to 0.89 ppm, a small enough number for every analytical book in the world to list AgCl as insoluble. Let's take a look at some real numbers. If we start with 5 ppm od EIS, that is 4 ppm of ionic silver, and take an ounce of it on a stomach that contains 3 ounces of liquid, then the result would be 1 ppm of ionic silver. Solubility of silver chloride is over 1 ppm at body temperature, so 100% of the ionic silver that is consumed would dissolve. I would not call that insoluble when dealing with concentrations of a few ppm. 2. AgCl does not dissolve inside the body: Remember, solubility means the extent to which AgCl forms Ag+ ions. In a chloride environment, the solubility of AgCl would be less than it would be for pure water, a result which would be expected from Le Chatelierrsquo;s Principle. For the equilibrium Ag+ + Cl- AgCl (s) Le Chatelier's Principle would state that the addition of chloride would drive the equilibrium to the right, towards the insoluble AgCl side. In a chloride environment, however, according to the Merck index, the amount of Cl- in the bloodstream is about 3500 ppm, which translates to approximately 0.1 M. Substituting this value into the above solubility product equation, one calculates that the amount of ionic silver in the blood cannot exceed 1.94 x 10-4 ppm. I definitely call that insoluble. The bottom line is that ionic silver is not going to survive in a chloride environment, but colloidal silver will Your expert needs to go back to school. That equation is valid only for very low concentrations of Cl ions. For the blood, which is over .1 M it is not valid at all. Silver chloride at medium and higher concentrations of Cl ions forms complexes (AgCl2, AgCl3, AgCl4 etc.), which are very soluble. The correct equation for this is: 2X10^-10/[Cl] + 6.3X10^-7 + 3.4X10^-3[Cl] where the [Cl] is the chlorine concentration in Moles, including the dissolved AgCl. This works out to very close to .9 ppm for blood (.145 Mole), which is coincidently almost exactly the same as it is in pure water. With higher concentrations of the chloride ion it is even higher. I have posted a graph from Ref #2 that shows this to a previous message to this newsgroup. For the concentrations we are concerned with, the left hand side "A" would be the applicable graph. References for this are: 1. Forbes, Cole J. Am. Chem. Soc., 1921, 43, 2492. (This is volume II of that years issues). 2. Laitinen "Chemical Analysis", 1975, second edition, pages 135-137. http://www.sampleprep.duq.edu/dir/Chapter2/Chapter2.htm http://genchem.chem.wisc.edu/demonstrations/Gen_Chem_Pages/15precippage/silverchloridedissolvesinxs.htm http://www.ars-chemia.net/dr-milligans-classes/Classes/102/Notes/Solubility_Complex_Ions.pdf http://iris.inc.bme.hu/en/subjects/inchem/sillabus/78-128.pdf 3. AgCl is eliminated by the kidneys, etc. In the presence of ammonia, such as from ammonium hydroxide, AgCl can be dissolved to form a soluble complex, i.e., AgCl (s) + 2NH4OH -> Ag(NH3)2+(aq) +Cl- + 2H2O but there is only about 0.2 to 0.8 ppm of ammonia in the blood, which accounts for its slightly alkaline nature. The 3500 ppm of Cl- in the bloodstream is very far beyond the amount necessary to prevent this from happening. "Fulminating silver" ? This has nothing to do with ammonia. A fulminate is an oxy-cyanide complex of a heavy metal. Let us hope there is no cyanide in anyone's bloodstream. A reducing agent will reduce silver ions to silver metal, but I cannot imagine any set of circumstances which would cause ionic silver to be reduced to the colloidal state. The chlorine content does not prevent it from happening, it forms an equilibrum such that there will be both species. But as long as there is any of the complex present, then tollen's reaction should be able to take place, and as the complex is used up, more of the silver nitrate can convert to the complex even though the kinetics favors the chloride. The circumstance where ionic silver will reduce to the colloidal state are very well known in the photography business. All that is required is a developer, seed silver atom or particle, and a ph over 7. All can be present in the blood stream (caffine for instance makes a good developer). And if the silver is in the form of the ammonia complex, then it should reduce with glucose, which is also in the blood stream. See Tollen's reagent for more information on this. As far as fulminating silver, once again your expert need to hit his books. Silver
CSCS:. RE Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins
I got mine at a Coin and Currency Exchange,cheap,like Borscht! Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSperipheral neuropathy
A GREAT ORG. TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR WEB SITE: lef.org Their info is very helpful. The products they sell are pricey, but fine, and it is a main source of income for them.Buy a lil bottle of D3 from them[real cheap] and you should get multiple copies of their fine/informative magazine for free. davido On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:15:45 -0800 (PST) Sally Khanna khann...@yahoo.com writes: What is Life Extension? Sally Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: A new fat-soluble form of vitamin B1 has demonstrated significant protection against sugar toxicity at the cellular level. In Europe, this vitamin B1 derivative called benfotiamine is prescribed for those suffering from disorders related to sugar toxicity, such as peripheral neuropathy. The good news is that this nutrient has been added to popular supplements already being taken by most Life Extension members. Consumers can thus help protect themselves against the lethal dangers of excess sugar (glucose) without having to swallow more capsules or spend more money. What You Don't Know About Blood Sugar http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jan2004_awsi_01.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, add! ress your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
Re: CSFW: Burned hand
MessageI'm sure it would Whiten your fingers, how about bone white grin Kent - Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert To: 'cs' Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:48 AM Subject: CSFW: Burned hand Coments any one What would happen if I soaked my Left Hand Finger Tips in Bleach, would this whiten my nails. My Wife is worried about how my nails look. Bob -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:19 AM To: 'cs' Subject: Burned hand I wrote before on burning my hand with a Plasma Cutter, well it will only be 2 weeks tomorrow. My hand is a lot better, I soaked it a couple of times in warm CS. My finger nails and thumb nail on injured hand have turned very dark compared to other hand. Did I soak up some CS into hand, did the CS go right to my finger nails. Or is some how related to burn injury. I also constantly sprayed injury with CS. Hand is healing a lot faster than I would have thought possible. Any comments or insights would be appreciated. Bob
Re: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins
Message - Original Message - From: Yogiboy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:22 AM Subject: RE: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins Hi Bob, I can't speak for Windsor, but can speak for Toronto. The banks here are open during the week and sat. I don't know the exact times. Short day forsure. Say 3ish? There are 4 major banks run by the gov't Bank of Montreal, Bank of Commerce, TD Canada Trust, And Royal Bank of Canada. I would imagine u can buy silver coins there. All the banks sell mint. None are open Sunday Here is a number you can call: Bank of Montreal- 1-800-363-9992 give them a shout see what they say. Ernie -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:24 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CSSilver Maple Leaf Coins This question is for any one who lives in Canada. I live across border in suburbs of Detroit. If I come over to Canada where can I buy some Silver Maple Leaf coins. Where is the cheapest place, are they handled at Banks. Are Banks there open at all other than during the week. I thought the Wife and I could visit pick up some coins and stay for Dinner. Oh Yeah my wife loves the Casino's. We have option of crossing at Windsor, Ferry at 2 places on St Clair river and at Port Huron. Bob
RE: CSSS Fund Fraud and the OT List
There is no fund. The money is taken from the pockets of the working, most of it is pillaged on whatever, and the remaining fragment is given to the older workers. -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSS Fund Fraud and the OT List In a message dated 1/23/2005 7:53:27 AM Central Standard Time, cwfug...@earthlink.net writes: This being my belief about the Social Security Fund fraud. Would like to discuss this on the OT list to see if I am crazy or maybe someone else agrees with me. Well, I'd sure like to read about this, but I can't seem to access the OT list. It tells me the website is not responding. Am I doing something wrong? MA
RE: CSAnother microbiologist murdered
Hi Wayne, That was written as a response to a response I made. Generally, I think they want massive population reduction, but I never thought about the SS costs. -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 6:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAnother microbiologist murdered Morning James, At 03:09 AM 1/23/2005, you wrote: They probably want to kill off the social security aged group to avoid paying benefits. I disagree, slightly, for one reason. This being my belief about the Social Security Fund fraud. Would like to discuss this on the OT list to see if I am crazy or maybe someone else agrees with me. Wayne -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSxylitol and CS
In vitro does not mean the same in vivio, but that is interesting. -Original Message- From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSxylitol and CS In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:11:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Hi Brickley, Where did you get the info that Xylitol feed Aspergillus? Paul Holloway (silver-List) saw Aspergillus growing inside of a Xylitol bottle. Brickey
Re: CSCS:. RE Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins
I got mine on ebay - just search for (silver bullion) or (silver coins). Dennis. Harold MacDonald wrote: I got mine at a Coin and Currency Exchange,cheap,like Borscht! Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
