Re: CSHelp for Wilma?
At 07:45 PM 05/02/05, Mike wrote: --- Forwarded message follows --- From: Ms. Wilma L. Amos soma...@alltel.net To: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject:digest Date sent: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 04:44:47 -0500 Hi there Wilma, Yes, it is both easy and hard to fix. Please look for this # prefix in the original below: can anyone tell me what to do about 'epstein barr', i know it goes hand in hand with chronic fatigue and fybromyalgia...or is there any cure? ## Yes. These are just symptoms - not different things. It is vital to understand this to EVER get normal. Different things are a leg chopped off, being pregnant, feeling great. Not symptoms. natural healing that would help i've also had diahreah for 3 weeks...i've tripled up on my CS and CG, am taking olive leaf, malic acid and shark cartilage...also coral calcium and acidophilus with pectin.. etc etc etc etc !! Wilma no sick person can stand that kind of unnatural assault on their body! Stop all of those things. Yes, especially the natural ones. They are usually fakes if commercial products. Coral calcium or those sort of things are not assimilable by well humans much less sick ones, iatrogenically damaged. Start on a simple NATURAL primitive diet. Especially stop eating all those health breads! They are lies. They are made from a Bakers Base which contains horrific things and so-called wholemal bread is nothing like Wholemeal. You will have to get on to a source of Spelt flour ( invariably only available at health fanatic sources as stone-ground(very important) biodynamic wholemeal flour. Make flat bread ( unleavened ) The exercise will do you good - STRICTLY follow the Food Combining rules. STRICTLY. all day... i had a gastric by-pass dec. 29, 2003... You have already fallen for the old biblical surgical trick - if it offends thee chop it off/out. Your days of fast and fancy eating are thus long over. If it is pre-prepared - in a box - in a can - new and improved - white in colour - fun to eat - it is a no no.SIMPLE. While the chances of you following this recommendation are virtually nil, there is a small chance that you will grasp the unpleasant truth and really do something - and a great mental help is DR Joel Wallach's great tape Dead Doctors Don't Lie - but forget being saved by drinking little expensive bottles of old water - only a sane eating style can save you now. Try and go here and read about Medicine http://www.fablor.com/matrixide/ With very best wishes to you, Himagain PLEASE NOTE: I have no franchise to offer any form of medical advice or treatment and all of my postings are anecdotally based and merely unlicensed opinions. Due diligence on your part is always necessary. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWelcome and some pointers...
Hi gang, I've been busy for a couple of weeks and haven't contributed much. I'd like to answer a few remarks I've seen, from John among others, that touch on just what is or is not welcome on the Silver List... *** Any health related question is welcome. You don't have to worry if it might not have anything directly to do with CS. *** Any relevant answers to such questions are also welcome, whether or not they have anything to do with colloidal silver. *** Non-CS related topics should end or migrate elsewhere once the basics are covered and important resources given -- so everybody's curiosity is satisfied and people can continue research on their own. *** Occasional alerts relating to laws, regulations, or other politcal or economic issues having direct impact on alternative health on a broad scale, or CS in particular, are okay, too. *** Limited discussions of such items, like the current threads on Codex, are okay as long as we steer clear of partisan politics or items of political philosophy that are most likely to cause arguments. *** I'm pleased to see a modest level of chit-chat, humor, sharing of experiences, or other things of interest that contribute to keeping the list a welcoming, sociable place. When the list is as quiet as it is right now, I'm not going to crack the whip too much to keep things strictly on topic. It can freewheel, as long as the discussion is helpful and serves the needs of the members. As we get busier again, then I hope all of you will tighten up more on your own participation to avoid overwhelming people. As always, blatant commercialism, self-promotion, and marketing activity is verboten unless approved in advance by me. If you think something you'd like to say risks being interpreted that way, drop me a line and ask. We also steer clear of is anything beyond passing, minor references to religion, spirituality, esotericism, and other nebulous subjects that either offend or frighten those not similarly enthused about them. No, you don't have to hide your faith/philosophy/beliefs totally, but refrain from overt evangelism or comments likely to devolve into arguments. An occasional God Bless or a bible reference in your signature file are just fine!! I hope that helps. You're a great crew. Many fine people have been and are involved in this community. I value you as my friends. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAllergies
For Mike and the rest with allergies: Recently, on another list, I found out that horses with allergies are being helped by taking spirulina. I have been taking spirulina for over a year, but never made the connection with the added improvement in my own allergies until reading this. I know it's OT, but thought it worth mentioning, since it's pretty easy to add to the daily routine. Sally - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
CSCancer therapies...
Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCodex -- 1000 mg Vit.C into STORE!?
BROOKS B's suggestion of planting Rooted Rosa Rugosa is a timely and practical suggestion. My question is -- how does one put -- bottles of 1000 mg Vitamin C into store?? -- I ask the followint questions -- meant to be a short er term option. Vitamin C tablets and Powder obviously has a LIMITED SHELF LIFE. What might be the best way TO EXTEND THIS SHELF LIFE? Can one extend the SHELF LIFE? 1)Does one use VACUUM packing? 2)Use a CANNING PROCESS? 3What is the practical Shelf Life of say, Vitamin C? These question are meant to be food for thought!!! Listers -- put on your thinking caps!! The questions apply to other vitamins etc etc. ïïï HERE IS THE REAL QUESTION: Why should the average vitamin manufacturer object to CODEX?? They will simply comply en masse without a murmur -- formulating the smaller/less milligram pill/s as the new law will demand. AND . . . they'll all make lots more money!! You watch, they 'll ALL make more money for putting LESS into the formulations!! So let's not kid ourselves -- when did you see a product get really cheaper when reformulated?? So start preparing yourself. The poorer people of Europe before and during the two world wars used large earthen jars to marinate vegetables -- cabbage, cucumbers etc in their cellars. This got them thru the long winters without scurvy etc. My German mother and her older sister related these practices to me. I must add my mother actually hated marinated cabbage, having been forced to eat this type of fare -- growing up before WWII and being forced to continue marinating and eating the results during the war in Germany. I can remember after emmigrating to Australia in 1949 at the age of 5, my family were placed on a lare acreage sheep farm as their first employment. I can still see the farm manager wheel in half a sheep and hang it up in a large wire meat safe -- for our consumtion. We had never seen so much meat -- especially so much at our personal disposal. With all the other produce, we though we were in heaven!! in SILvation, Douglas H
Re: CSCodex -- 1000 mg Vit.C into STORE!?
ha, thought i sent this to the list but it sent to a private email...i have to watch that. don't forget that there are other plants that are excellent sources of vit c, like homegrown bell peppers and tomatoes...while waiting for the roses to take hold consider growing some high octane plants and juicing...totally assimilative. a rose... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSwilma and question to himagain
I was just wondering if Wilma has been tested for mycoplasma infections like lyme etc. which can cause some of her bowel troubles. Also chronic systemic candidias can be a problem esp if she has been on alot of antibioitcs. If this is the case, I think that supplements are helpful rather than harmful but it is important to get them in a form that she can assimilate. A question for himagain- I agree that many supplements are stressful to the body but I do think it is hard to get what you need in food the way that it is processed-even good food is lacking due to soil depletion etc. The question that I have regards the collodial minerals that the tape you suggested recommends. I wanted to know if you take this mineral supplement and have you had luck with it? I keep hearing how collodial minerals have heavy metals in them. thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCodex -- 1000 mg Vit.C into STORE!?
How about freezing??? nessie.. What might be the best way TO EXTEND THIS SHELF LIFE? Can one extend the SHELF LIFE? 1)Does one use VACUUM packing? 2)Use a CANNING PROCESS? 3What is the practical Shelf Life of say, Vitamin C? These question are meant to be food for thought!!! Listers -- put on your thinking caps!! The questions apply to other vitamins etc etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCodex -- 1000 mg Vit.C into STORE!?
the expiration dates on the containers are arbitrary, are they not?? the same for all... aren't most things marked to expire +2 years? haven't I seen that some things are damaged by refrigeration, let alone freezing? I have really benefitted in switching to ester-c. where does one get that? .there are a million questions we face if our sources are to be cut off in the near future and I wonder who really knows the answers, other than guesses. I wonder if packaging that suggests cool dry place is really from a truly knowlegable source or maybe just common sense. Does anyone know anyone at LEF?? .that may be able to get some informed information?? I guess any of us who are members can submit requests for info. davido On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:10:21 -0800 Nessie nes...@shaw.ca writes: How about freezing??? nessie.. What might be the best way TO EXTEND THIS SHELF LIFE? Can one extend the SHELF LIFE? 1)Does one use VACUUM packing? 2)Use a CANNING PROCESS? 3What is the practical Shelf Life of say, Vitamin C? These question are meant to be food for thought!!! Listers -- put on your thinking caps!! The questions apply to other vitamins etc etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwilma and question to himagain
At 07:06 AM 07/02/05, Betsy wrote: (SNIPPED) A question for himagain- I agree that many supplements are stressful to the body but I do think it is hard to get what you need in food the way that it is processed-even good food is lacking due to soil depletion etc. The question that I have regards the collodial minerals that the tape you suggested recommends. I wanted to know if you take this mineral supplement and have you had luck with it? I keep hearing how collodial minerals have heavy metals in them. thanks Hi Betsy, Supplements are a minefield. I just received a rave review from someone here in Oz about a miracle supplement. It even admits on the label that it contains Aspartame- not even one of the 90-odd cover-names for it. Like all those miracle diet pills that really, really work: All you do is take 3 per day at $5 each and viola! (sic) Oh, and by the way you must follow a calorie-controlled diet and exercise plan in conjunction with the program or it won't work.. :-) Sure I take supplements every day four times. They are called Sprouts. Cost about 20 cents per kilo and are made following the Original Maker's methods ( Often called God or gods). Cheapest most effective supplements in the world. Caveat: You must use real unadulterated water in sprouting the seeds and of course, they must be heritage seeds not Monsantomonsters. The only other thing that is super-effective for people with the multiple symptoms called allergies, MS, Cystic Fibrosis, Lyme, CFS, Cancer etc., is to learn to defecate and ( females) urinate primitive style, squatting, not sitting. People with modern-diet-destroyed digestive systems can get relief immediately. A simple trick is to make a sturdy box about half the height of the toilet bowl, add a hand-rail to the wall for comfort ( sick people fear getting dizzy and falling down a lot, so they do ) in order to be able to squat like those Africans you see in the National Geographic, who never sit down Western style. ( Notice how hard it is to teach/force babies to do it properly? Left alone they will do it naturally.) But no recovery is ever really possible without the right food. Perhaps even more importantly - stopping eating the toxic junk we replaced food with in the last 100 years. Ever noticed how babies try and refuse ALL the junk forced down their little throats? Children who don't want to eat it ALL up? Simply going back to the amounts of food that were normally eaten 100 years ago by people who REALLY walked and worked can work miracles. ( About 25% to 33% of what you eat now) So it is all easy to fix, IF you stay away from the toxic stuff and Already Dying Doctors Cheers, Himagain Not wanting to upset Mike and the well-managed CS list and its folk, future responses will be via the Matrixide list which is nowhere near as nice as this one! :-) It is designed for the truly desperate who *really* want to know what is being done to them and *seriously* how to avoid it. mailto:matrixide-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFwd:silver list question
Can whoever sent this information to my daughter please send it to her again at soma...@alltel.net. It got lost while printing.Thanks.Bill Amos -- hi dad, since i can't get on the silver list...can you ask them a question for me? someone sent me 'treating and beating fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome' could you ask them who sent it and if they could please send it to me again to my e-mail address at.soma...@alltel.net It got lost. thanks, Wilma -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCodex -- 1000 mg Vit.C into STORE!?
Remember.companies are required to say a product (vitamin/vaccine/drug, etc.) will last at least so many years.there is no incentive for them to prove that they may last 10, 15, years or longer. It took the FDA 5 decades to finally say that a tetanus vaccination would last 10 years.. _ From: David S Osborne [mailto:ide...@juno.com] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCodex -- 1000 mg Vit.C into STORE!? the expiration dates on the containers are arbitrary, are they not?? the same for all... aren't most things marked to expire +2 years? haven't I seen that some things are damaged by refrigeration, let alone freezing? I have really benefitted in switching to ester-c. where does one get that? .there are a million questions we face if our sources are to be cut off in the near future and I wonder who really knows the answers, other than guesses. I wonder if packaging that suggests cool dry place is really from a truly knowlegable source or maybe just common sense. Does anyone know anyone at LEF?? .that may be able to get some informed information?? I guess any of us who are members can submit requests for info. davido On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:10:21 -0800 Nessie nes...@shaw.ca writes: How about freezing??? nessie.. What might be the best way TO EXTEND THIS SHELF LIFE? Can one extend the SHELF LIFE? 1)Does one use VACUUM packing? 2)Use a CANNING PROCESS? 3What is the practical Shelf Life of say, Vitamin C? These question are meant to be food for thought!!! Listers -- put on your thinking caps!! The questions apply to other vitamins etc etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwilma and question to himagain
Betsy Is a mycoplasma a bacteria ? Lyme is caused by a spirochete which is a spiral shaped bacteria. This is the second time lately I've seen this misconception. Lyme is the great imitator. It could be that Lyme could cover all of her problems. Dave Betsy Coffey wrote: I was just wondering if Wilma has been tested for mycoplasma infections like lyme etc. which can cause some of her bowel troubles. Also chronic systemic candidias can be a problem esp if she has been on alot of antibioitcs. If this is the case, I think that supplements are helpful rather than harmful but it is important to get them in a form that she can assimilate. A question for himagain- I agree that many supplements are stressful to the body but I do think it is hard to get what you need in food the way that it is processed-even good food is lacking due to soil depletion etc. The question that I have regards the collodial minerals that the tape you suggested recommends. I wanted to know if you take this mineral supplement and have you had luck with it? I keep hearing how collodial minerals have heavy metals in them. thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
Dear People, I have a challenge with my water system and would like your input, especially from the chemistry-minded folk of this list. In November I moved my home and office 6 miles to an even more remote country location. The house's water supply is fed by a well. The water's pH tests at around 6.2, much too acidic to drink (it should be at least a neutral 7.0). As with my prior location, the water purification setup at my new locale consists of two countertop water treatment units. The first is a simple filter with coconut shell, to remove the particulate matter -- and save wear and tear on the second water unit. The second water unit is a Singer Ionizer Plus, which electrolizes the water and sends the acid and alkaline fluids to separate chambers. You drink the alkaline water and use the acidic water externally (the skin is acidic and really benefits from the acid water). At my new location, the electrolyzed water initially tested from about 7.2 to 8.6, depending on the low or high settings of the Singer electrolysis system. The alkaline water tasted sweet and felt smooth. However, then we needed to replace the cartridge in Unit #1. The company that makes the first unit redesigned the cartridge and now we're having water problems. The mouth on both ends of the cartridge is much narrower than before. Presumably, this has lowered the pressure of the water flowing into the Singer. So now, even with the Singer unit on the highest setting, the water's pH doesn't get much higher than 6.6. The manufacturer of Unit #1 (the one that changed the cartridge) doesn't want to talk to us because we're not a large account. But someone at the Singer dealership did talk to us. We were told that well water is tricky to test for pH, because often there's carbonic acid (dissolved carbon dioxide) in the water. The remedy, the company rep continued, is to let the water sit overnight so the carbon dioxide can dissipate -- and THEN test the water the next morning. So I followed their advice. I electrolyzed the water at the second setting and the highest setting, let the two containers of water sit overnight, and then retested the pH the next morning. There was no difference between the night before and the next morning. The highest pH was still about 6.6. Here are the mysteries: 1) Why would changing the water pressure (narrowing the mouth of the cartridge on Machine #1) create a difference in pH? 2) Why didn't the carbon dioxide escape from the open water? 3) If the carbon dioxide didn't escape from the open water, it's possible that the acidic readings weren't the result of carbonic acid. If not, what was creating the acid? All this leads to yet another issue: Obviously, we're going to filter our water to get rid of sediment and chemicals. But drinking acidic water is out of the question. What can we put into the water to raise the pH? I experimented with putting 50% concentrated pharmaceutical grade potassium hydroxide into the acidic water. I had to use at least four drops to get the water to an acceptably alkaline level (it only gets to about 7.2)..But now there is an unpleasant taste to the water. I really liked using the Singer when the results were working. Alkaline water is wonderfully sweet and has great energy. But any water electrolysis unit produces results that are only as good as the water that feeds it. My only other option is to make distilled water, and add minerals to it for drinking. Technically, distilled water has a pH of 7.0 because it doesn't contain minerals. However, in reality this rarely is the case, because as soon as distilled water is exposed to the air it violently reacts with carbon dioxide and becomes acidic. For instance, I once tested the pH of distilled water that was freshly made with a friend's distiller, and the pH was only 6.2. Nevertheless, I ordered a distiller and expect it next week. I don't know what pH this unit will create. Hopefully, the pH will be closer to 7.0 than not. Even if the pH is 6.8, it's exponentially *much* better than even 6.6 -- and I'll be able to add *less* potassium hydroxide to get it to the pH I want. However, I don't know the ramifications of drinking potassium hydroxide on a regular basis. I figure that if the water tastes bad, that's an indicator that something is wrong. So your intelligent suggestions are welcome. (All you Sherlock Holmes chemists, put on your thinking caps! I hope I have been clear in explaining the situation. Thanks in advance for your help. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy http://www.nenahsylver.com Holistic health products, supplements and services -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Mike, Dick Loyd has some great stuff on his website about treating cancer and other conditions. Go to: http://www.royalrife.com/conditions.html Dr. Loyd, for those who don't know, is a Rifer and researcher and is quite good at what he does. Nenah - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 7:40 PM Subject: CSCancer therapies... Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
IP6 converts cancer cells back to normal cells-- go to Google for info. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Cancer Therapies
Marian writes: Would they consider using Classical Homeopathy in addition to whatever? I was just talking to her this afternoon and she reported having worked with a homeopath who helped her elderly father over some things. So, yes, that may be another path to follow for them. Thank you, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergies
Hi Sally, can you please tell me how much spirulina you take each day? -- Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html on 7/2/2005 8:01 AM, Sally Khanna at khann...@yahoo.com wrote: For Mike and the rest with allergies: Recently, on another list, I found out that horses with allergies are being helped by taking spirulina. I have been taking spirulina for over a year, but never made the connection with the added improvement in my own allergies until reading this. I know it's OT, but thought it worth mentioning, since it's pretty easy to add to the daily routine. Sally Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/ji bjabinaugural.html
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Mike, When working intensively with EC-AFNOR (French medical standard) essential oils, generally one is clear of the 'mass' that causes problems within a month. The principals are cleansing and frequency. It works. There are tried and true recipes that one can do at home or head off to a clinic for MD ND etc professional guidance - kinda depends on budget considerations. Same time line of 30-40 days for prostate and breast mass challenges. These are not touted as cancer cures which puts one in the laser beam of the regulatory bodies. The foundation is rapid cleansing, and somehow the goo seems to go away. Supplemental therapies such as chiro, naturo, massage, classic Chinese acupuncture and BodyTalk with it's silent no talk approach to releasing emotional ties are beneficial also. If you want to know more please contact me off line. Christine Carleton, CBP From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergies
I take one teaspoonful in a glass of juice. Sally Roger Barker rbar...@orcon.net.nz wrote: Hi Sally, can you please tell me how much spirulina you take each day? -- Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html on 7/2/2005 8:01 AM, Sally Khanna at khann...@yahoo.com wrote: For Mike and the rest with allergies: Recently, on another list, I found out that horses with allergies are being helped by taking spirulina. I have been taking spirulina for over a year, but never made the connection with the added improvement in my own allergies until reading this. I know it's OT, but thought it worth mentioning, since it's pretty easy to add to the daily routine. Sally - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/jibjabinaugural.html - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma
Ernie, I've used a Classical Homeopath with excellent results, for some time now. My 92-1/2 year old mother has regained a great deal of good health from Homeopathy also. She had been going to MD's with poor to awful results. I DO believe in it, and have found it helps with all sorts of things that the MD's can't seem to deal with unless giving you lots of drugs, with more than lots of side effects. My Homeopath also has cured the problems that Wilma says she has, it isn't an immediate cure, but it sure does get the job done. Far more effective than allopathic med. Healthier, safer, NO side effects, unless you count returning health! And, at least in my case, far-far less expensive than a regular doctor 'visit'. My homeopath actually treats me and my family, via email from across the US from me! And, it's working!!! marian Unanswered questions are not as dangerous as Unquestioned answers. On Feb 6, 2005, at 11:02 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: I know of a homeopathic doctor here in Toronto that would be able to help her out. I have sent my sister to her and have gone myself. She has experience with those conditions and has even helped people recover from MS. I know a lot of people can't believe this sort of therapy is out there and That help cure such ailments. ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma
Classical homeopaths are so hard to find since it takes decades for one to get the skill necessary to practice. Please could you give me a few names of good classical homeopaths..I went to one in Houston, Tx...he was arrogant and very inadequate. Donna
RE: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma
Yes Marian, Side effects of healing, naturally, shouldn't be mistaken for getting sick. One must be patient.( pardon the pun ) regarding time for healing. It does take much longer, but then again longer then what? Suffering for days, sometimes weeks on end from Allopathic treatment; A very small price to pay in either case. My, my all these puns...hahaha. That is great to know, perhaps Wilma can use her? She is approx 10 hours from Toronto so if she is closer or even not having to drive is better. Ernie -Original Message- From: GaelicHounds [mailto:gaelichou...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma Ernie, I've used a Classical Homeopath with excellent results, for some time now. My 92-1/2 year old mother has regained a great deal of good health from Homeopathy also. She had been going to MD's with poor to awful results. I DO believe in it, and have found it helps with all sorts of things that the MD's can't seem to deal with unless giving you lots of drugs, with more than lots of side effects. My Homeopath also has cured the problems that Wilma says she has, it isn't an immediate cure, but it sure does get the job done. Far more effective than allopathic med. Healthier, safer, NO side effects, unless you count returning health! And, at least in my case, far-far less expensive than a regular doctor 'visit'. My homeopath actually treats me and my family, via email from across the US from me! And, it's working!!! marian Unanswered questions are not as dangerous as Unquestioned answers. On Feb 6, 2005, at 11:02 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: I know of a homeopathic doctor here in Toronto that would be able to help her out. I have sent my sister to her and have gone myself. She has experience with those conditions and has even helped people recover from MS. I know a lot of people can't believe this sort of therapy is out there and That help cure such ailments. ernie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma
Donna, the only one I know of is in Toronto. Would this be of help? -Original Message- From: alopez...@aol.com [mailto:alopez...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma Classical homeopaths are so hard to find since it takes decades for one to get the skill necessary to practice. Please could you give me a few names of good classical homeopaths..I went to one in Houston, Tx...he was arrogant and very inadequate. Donna
CSRe: silver-digest Cancer Therapies
Mike, Would they consider using Classical Homeopathy in addition to whatever? There are a lot (no, not all) cancers being cured by homeopathy - the only caveat I would add, is to use a Classical Homeopath. They have studied well beyone the 4th Organon, which is the level that most homeopathic colleges teach. They have studied the 5th and the 6th Organon and have become very skilled in their prescribing and remedies used. Anyone interested in seeing the free homeopathy explanation, basically the book; Homeopathy, Beyond Flat Earth Medicine, written by an MD, and ND who practices Classical Homeopathy, just email me for the attachment. It's an easy read, and gives information on how Homeopathy works. I also have access to lists of Classical Homeopaths for any who are interested. marian Unanswered questions are not as dangerous as Unquestioned answers. On Feb 6, 2005, at 9:30 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Date: February 6, 2005 11:45:22 AM PST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCancer therapies... Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D.
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Cancer Therapies
Yes please send my way I'd be interested in viewing.thanks Ernie -Original Message- From: GaelicHounds [mailto:gaelichou...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Cancer Therapies Mike, Would they consider using Classical Homeopathy in addition to whatever? There are a lot (no, not all) cancers being cured by homeopathy - the only caveat I would add, is to use a Classical Homeopath. They have studied well beyone the 4th Organon, which is the level that most homeopathic colleges teach. They have studied the 5th and the 6th Organon and have become very skilled in their prescribing and remedies used. Anyone interested in seeing the free homeopathy explanation, basically the book; Homeopathy, Beyond Flat Earth Medicine, written by an MD, and ND who practices Classical Homeopathy, just email me for the attachment. It's an easy read, and gives information on how Homeopathy works. I also have access to lists of Classical Homeopaths for any who are interested. marian Unanswered questions are not as dangerous as Unquestioned answers. On Feb 6, 2005, at 9:30 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Date: February 6, 2005 11:45:22 AM PST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCancer therapies... Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D.
Re: CSRe: silver-digest / Help for Wilma
I agree Donna, There are plenty of them who simply look at their computer screens and then give you a remedy. I like those who can listen to you and select an accurate remedy themselves. anyone can buy a computer program. Sally alopez...@aol.com wrote: Classical homeopaths are so hard to find since it takes decades for one to get the skill necessary to practice. Please could you give me a few names of good classical homeopaths..I went to one in Houston, Tx...he was arrogant and very inadequate. Donna - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
CSdave-lyme and mike -cancer
Dave, I dont think it is a misconception but maybe I didnt understand what you meant. Lyme is a spirocete bacteria like you said. With lyme disease, you can also harbor other infections bacterial or otherwise. YOu can also have babesia which is a parasite. There are various bacterial infections that go undiagnosed as actual infections. Fibromyalgia is a good example. It can be bacterial or fungal in nature. You are right that lyme is a great imitator of illness. My hope is that someday, there will be more definitive tests for it. Mike here is a web site that I just posted on another forum. I dont know anything about this product but will post it anyway. http://lifelinewater.com/herb.html Other web sites http://russtanner.com/Cancer/Cancer_IMO_2001-02.html(pages 5 and 6) http://www.drmagaziner.com/returns9.htm article in Dec archives posted by campbe...@members.v21.co.uk http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/repfromcanco.html http://www.cancersalves.com/articles/quality.html http://www.1cure4cancer.com/controlcancer/information/natureofcancer/herbcancer.html http://www.aboutroyalrife.com/ed/cancer.htm http://members.aol.com/DHelmut52/Rec_engl.html http://www.heall.com/body/resource/organizations/cancer.html (very good reference web sites for alternatives) www.aami-cancer.com http://www.a3r.org/briefs/cancer_str ategies.cfm www.polymva.com http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/cancer.html#sarcoma www.MagiHerbs.com INformation resources-CANHELP-Washington-206-437-2291 Healing Choices-Brooklyn NY-718-636-4433 Some REading material- Alternatives in Cancer Therapy by Rose Pelton and LEe Overholser Very good article in the FEB.March 2003 magazine of Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients(you can back order these) Excellent article on the newest cancer modalities in the November 2000 issue of Alternative Medicine. Hope this is helpful __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCancer therapies...
Check out curcurmin and graviola along with rife, etc. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 5:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCancer therapies... Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwilma and question to himagain
Mycoplasma is now classified as an acid fast bacterium. Years ago it was classified in the lmyphogranularium group because they couldn't decide whether it was a virus or a bacterium, having some qualities of both -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 5:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSwilma and question to himagain Betsy Is a mycoplasma a bacteria ? Lyme is caused by a spirochete which is a spiral shaped bacteria. This is the second time lately I've seen this misconception. Lyme is the great imitator. It could be that Lyme could cover all of her problems. Dave Betsy Coffey wrote: I was just wondering if Wilma has been tested for mycoplasma infections like lyme etc. which can cause some of her bowel troubles. Also chronic systemic candidias can be a problem esp if she has been on alot of antibioitcs. If this is the case, I think that supplements are helpful rather than harmful but it is important to get them in a form that she can assimilate. A question for himagain- I agree that many supplements are stressful to the body but I do think it is hard to get what you need in food the way that it is processed-even good food is lacking due to soil depletion etc. The question that I have regards the collodial minerals that the tape you suggested recommends. I wanted to know if you take this mineral supplement and have you had luck with it? I keep hearing how collodial minerals have heavy metals in them. thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
Hi Nenah, May you be very happy in your new home. Have you tried connecting well water straight into the Ionizer? To test whether the filter is the culprit. I can think of two potential problems. 1/ Something has got into the ionizer causing a problem, possibly blocking a port or covering an electrode or sensor. 2/ The new filter is functionally different so that the water leaving the filter is now strongly buffered by passing through the filter. I can only imagine that slowing the water flow would cause the electrolysis process to be 'better' or 'stronger' hth, Tony On 6 Feb 2005 at 19:57, Nenah Sylver wrote: Dear People, I have a challenge with my water system and would like your input, especially from the chemistry-minded folk of this list. In November I moved my home and office 6 miles to an even more remote country location. The house's water supply is fed by a well. The water's pH tests at around 6.2, much too acidic to drink (it should be at least a neutral 7.0). As with my prior location, the water purification setup at my new locale consists of two countertop water treatment units. The first is a simple filter with coconut shell, to remove the particulate matter -- and save wear and tear on the second water unit. The second water unit is a Singer Ionizer Plus, which electrolizes the water and sends the acid and alkaline fluids to separate chambers. You drink the alkaline water and use the acidic water externally (the skin is acidic and really benefits from the acid water). At my new location, the electrolyzed water initially tested from about 7.2 to 8.6, depending on the low or high settings of the Singer electrolysis system. The alkaline water tasted sweet and felt smooth. However, then we needed to replace the cartridge in Unit #1. The company that makes the first unit redesigned the cartridge and now we're having water problems. The mouth on both ends of the cartridge is much narrower than before. Presumably, this has lowered the pressure of the water flowing into the Singer. So now, even with the Singer unit on the highest setting, the water's pH doesn't get much higher than 6.6. The manufacturer of Unit #1 (the one that changed the cartridge) doesn't want to talk to us because we're not a large account. But someone at the Singer dealership did talk to us. We were told that well water is tricky to test for pH, because often there's carbonic acid (dissolved carbon dioxide) in the water. The remedy, the company rep continued, is to let the water sit overnight so the carbon dioxide can dissipate -- and THEN test the water the next morning. So I followed their advice. I electrolyzed the water at the second setting and the highest setting, let the two containers of water sit overnight, and then retested the pH the next morning. There was no difference between the night before and the next morning. The highest pH was still about 6.6. Here are the mysteries: 1) Why would changing the water pressure (narrowing the mouth of the cartridge on Machine #1) create a difference in pH? 2) Why didn't the carbon dioxide escape from the open water? 3) If the carbon dioxide didn't escape from the open water, it's possible that the acidic readings weren't the result of carbonic acid. If not, what was creating the acid? All this leads to yet another issue: Obviously, we're going to filter our water to get rid of sediment and chemicals. But drinking acidic water is out of the question. What can we put into the water to raise the pH? I experimented with putting 50% concentrated pharmaceutical grade potassium hydroxide into the acidic water. I had to use at least four drops to get the water to an acceptably alkaline level (it only gets to about 7.2)..But now there is an unpleasant taste to the water. I really liked using the Singer when the results were working. Alkaline water is wonderfully sweet and has great energy. But any water electrolysis unit produces results that are only as good as the water that feeds it. My only other option is to make distilled water, and add minerals to it for drinking. Technically, distilled water has a pH of 7.0 because it doesn't contain minerals. However, in reality this rarely is the case, because as soon as distilled water is exposed to the air it violently reacts with carbon dioxide and becomes acidic. For instance, I once tested the pH of distilled water that was freshly made with a friend's distiller, and the pH was only 6.2. Nevertheless, I ordered a distiller and expect it next week. I don't know what pH this unit will create. Hopefully, the pH will be closer to 7.0 than not. Even if the pH is 6.8, it's exponentially *much* better than even 6.6 -- and I'll be able to add *less* potassium hydroxide to get it to the pH I want. However, I don't know the ramifications of drinking potassium hydroxide on a regular basis. I figure that if the water tastes bad, that's an
RE: CSdave-lyme and mike -cancer
You know, it just might be the Dr. Clark's synchrometer might diagnose Lyme disease easily. All one would have to have is a culture of the Borelia and then it could be diagnosed by a person who is able to use the equipment competently -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSdave-lyme and mike -cancer Dave, I dont think it is a misconception but maybe I didnt understand what you meant. Lyme is a spirocete bacteria like you said. With lyme disease, you can also harbor other infections bacterial or otherwise. YOu can also have babesia which is a parasite. There are various bacterial infections that go undiagnosed as actual infections. Fibromyalgia is a good example. It can be bacterial or fungal in nature. You are right that lyme is a great imitator of illness. My hope is that someday, there will be more definitive tests for it. Mike here is a web site that I just posted on another forum. I dont know anything about this product but will post it anyway. http://lifelinewater.com/herb.html Other web sites http://russtanner.com/Cancer/Cancer_IMO_2001-02.html(pages 5 and 6) http://www.drmagaziner.com/returns9.htm article in Dec archives posted by campbe...@members.v21.co.uk http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/repfromcanco.html http://www.cancersalves.com/articles/quality.html http://www.1cure4cancer.com/controlcancer/information/natureofcancer/herbcan cer.html http://www.aboutroyalrife.com/ed/cancer.htm http://members.aol.com/DHelmut52/Rec_engl.html http://www.heall.com/body/resource/organizations/cancer.html (very good reference web sites for alternatives) www.aami-cancer.com http://www.a3r.org/briefs/cancer_str ategies.cfm www.polymva.com http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/cancer.html#sarcoma www.MagiHerbs.com INformation resources-CANHELP-Washington-206-437-2291 Healing Choices-Brooklyn NY-718-636-4433 Some REading material- Alternatives in Cancer Therapy by Rose Pelton and LEe Overholser Very good article in the FEB.March 2003 magazine of Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients(you can back order these) Excellent article on the newest cancer modalities in the November 2000 issue of Alternative Medicine. Hope this is helpful __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
