Re: CS>Atten: Cancervivor

2005-02-19 Thread Himagain

At 10:14 AM 20/02/05, you wrote:

I don't remember which list member accrues to this name, but I would 
appreciate the website addy for information -- I believe that this has 
been referenced on the list.  Thank you.MA


Hi there,
There are many Cancervivor groups out there that are the real ones, but a 
number of fakes have appeared lately.  Even a magazine in OZ!
Some of these will be govt. scams trying to find out Doctors names, or like 
the people who haunt newsgroups saying "fluoride is good for you" and 
"Aspartame is good for you" ( with the small side effect of Cancer and 89 
other symptoms).
The TRUE Cancervivor groups are *super-private* and only open to access by 
actual Cancer sufferers, who may later introduce direct family at a lower 
level.

The *only* way in is thru a series of filters proving identity and state.
This is to protect the growing number of Doctors who are risking everything 
to tell the truth.  I mean risking everything!


Virtually everything that a group can tell you, I have already posted on 
this and other lists over the last year or so.  I am now retired ( after 8 
years) and have absolutely no access to any group - I've been deliberately 
cut out of the loop for the protection of all concerned.


Cancer has two forms:
1. Iatrogenic - meaning caused by outside agents like PCB's or medical 
treatments, Aspartame etc.

2. Self-developed - meaning you did it to yourself via lifestyle.

First is dead easy if you get away early enough from the source.
Second requires far more discipline.  Nearly all fail to hack it.  They 
really prefer to die than give up their good life - so they do.
Anyone who avoids medical treatment for the symptoms and follows all the 
information anecdotally posted here can readily reverse Cancer.  I did. 880 
people in my group did.  No failures for those who followed the 
rules,  100% failure for those who didn't and who actually did have Cancer.

(They get it wrong a tremendous percentage of the time)
First test:
If you are diagnosed with Cancer and are a private Insurance holder - 
especially of high cover - is to go to a public hospital in another town, 
tell them you have no insurance and have just moved there and relate the 
same symptoms.   You could very well be told that you are a hypochondriac 
and sent away.   ( Happens a lot if you are "poor" - mainly richer people 
with money get "the treatment")


All of the above is anecdotal information and personal opinions and you are 
warned that the writer has no legal franchise to advise, dispense, treat, 
or otherwise deal with your condition medically, financially, legally, and 
it is for entertainment purposes and/or satirical in intent only.  Your due 
diligence is mandatory.


Himagain.
This will be my last post in such dangerous waters.  Codex is upon us.  Be 
careful out there, friends.







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CS>a good reminder from Mercola

2005-02-19 Thread Himagain

Hi folks,
Worth downloading and printing and hanging up in your kitchen and bathroom. 
A good compendium of why your life expectancy is dropping like a stone ( 
not going up as per the lies)

http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/19/common_toxins.htm

Himagain.

Did you know that from the forties unbelievably right thru to the eighties, 
they were putting uranium into false teeth? (To make them glow?)



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CS>Atten: Cancervivor

2005-02-19 Thread Marmar845
I don't remember which list member accrues to this name, but I would 
appreciate the website addy for information -- I believe that this has been 
referenced 
on the list.  Thank you.MA


Re: CS>Pyro-Energyn

2005-02-19 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Steve, 
There is the Molecular Enhancer made by Dan Dial 
milcr...@earthlink.net which may be similar. Good reports with that.
He makes and sells them but I should have the plans somewhere if you want to 
make your own. 
Almost "fling yourself on an electric fence" treatment. Gives you quite a buzz. 
But rows of people 
wait to use it in the dr's rooms. 

The major trouble with it is that it eats the building. Some of the voltage 
gets out and goes across 
the floor under the device and causes blackening and burning of the flooring 
material.

Tony 


On 18 Feb 2005 at 21:30, S&JY wrote:

> All,
> 
> I looked through the website to try to determine how the pyro-energyn
> device works.  It appears to produce some sort of high voltage very
> low current output coupled to the body via bare feet on the device. 
> Whether it is DC, AC, constant or variable frequency, pulsed, etc. I
> could not tell.  How it can produce the seemingly miraculous claimed
> results is also not specified.
> 
> The claim is that it works with negative static electricity.  Taken
> literally, static means DC.  Perhaps it is just a current limited
> negative high voltage supply of several thousand volts?  In that case
> then perhaps the surface of the user becomes a large negative ion
> generator?  If so, how in the world can that affect us internally,
> except through the inhalation of negatively charged air?  But there
> are plenty of air ionizers used throughout the world with no
> significant attendant reduction in viral diseases.
> 
> So, can anyone shed some details on the device?   How and why does it
> work? Is it for real or another quack device to rob you of about $800
> dollars? Seems like one could build a similar unit for considerably
> less cost, if one knew the electrical specifications of the output.
> 
> --Steve Y.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "bbanever" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:14 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: Cancer Alternative treatments
> 
> 
> Laurie,
> 
>   You must look into getting this machine, the Pyro-energen.  It
>   was
> discovered by a Japanese MD and is now being manufactured in the US
> and Phillipines.  It works through negative static electricity...
> absolutely no side effects but kills any and all virus in the body. 
> It does not kill bacteria but most Leukemia is virus induced (even if
> ultimately caused by chemical exposure or radiation, this damages the
> cells/immune system that allows the virus to infect cellular DNA). 
> One case cited cured his leukemia in ONE WEEK.
> 
> http://www.pyroenergen.com/
> 
>  Best of luck.
> 
>  Bob
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Laurie Bartlett
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>   Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:40 AM
>   Subject: CS>RE: Cancer Alternative treatments
> 
> 
>   Hi Mike,
>   I am sorry for your loss.
> 
>   My dad has Leukemia that is in remission. Can you direct me to the
>   search
> for alternative treatments? I would like to start now and hopefully be
> prepared if needed. Thanks so much.
> 
>   Laurie
> 
>   http://www.youravon.com/lbartlett
> 
> 
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CS>Pyro-energen

2005-02-19 Thread bbanever
Del,

You really need to contact Richard Lloyd, Ph.D with your questions.  He 
will be able to answer them.  His web address is;

http://www.royalrife.com/

Best of luck.

Bob

Re: CS>Pyro-Energyn

2005-02-19 Thread d...@altsystem.com
There are a few little(!!) problems with this info, as far as I am
concerned.

I am always willing to extend the benefit of a doubt to any alternative
modalities, and I am certainly interested in "energetic medicine" since
I have become aware of devices like the Scenar and Rife machines and LED
therapy.  I am one who believes that repairing the energy levels of
cells can enable them to heal themselves of whatever condition may be
affecting them.

However, this website is barely literate, contains many contradictions,
and offers no believable theoretical support.

On the first page it states that the device does not destroy bacteria,
only virus, yet lists bubonic plague, lyme disease, and tuberculosis as
diseases it may help.  Aren't these bacterial in nature?  In spite of
the disclaimer, the list of diseases that it has cured includes just
about every major malady known to humanity.  Including sleepwalking, of
all things.  Also diabetes, rheumatism, parkinsons, paralysis,
sinusitis, ... and the list goes on.

But the clincher for me is the section that explains that all these
diseases are the result of "the phantom ionisphere wave..responsible for
most incurable diseases" and the insistence that all you have to do is
believe and the device will work.

By the way, it also says that the device is "inexpensive", but I don't
think the average person would find $700 inexpensive.  Yes, that is
inexpensive if it could do all that it claims, but it is a bit high for
faith healing.

Looks like a ripoff to me.  Sites like this give alternative medicine a
bad name.  I also wonder how he avoids having the FDA come down on him
since he outright claims that the device cures just about all diseases.
Isn't that illegal in this country?

Del


- Original Message - 
From: "S&JY" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:30 PM
Subject: CS>Pyro-Energyn


All,

I looked through the website to try to determine how the pyro-energyn
device
works.  It appears to produce some sort of high voltage very low current
output coupled to the body via bare feet on the device.  Whether it is
DC,
AC, constant or variable frequency, pulsed, etc. I could not tell.  How
it
can produce the seemingly miraculous claimed results is also not
specified.

The claim is that it works with negative static electricity.  Taken
literally, static means DC.  Perhaps it is just a current limited
negative
high voltage supply of several thousand volts?  In that case then
perhaps
the surface of the user becomes a large negative ion generator?  If so,
how
in the world can that affect us internally, except through the
inhalation of
negatively charged air?  But there are plenty of air ionizers used
throughout the world with no significant attendant reduction in viral
diseases.

So, can anyone shed some details on the device?   How and why does it
work?
Is it for real or another quack device to rob you of about $800 dollars?
Seems like one could build a similar unit for considerably less cost, if
one
knew the electrical specifications of the output.

--Steve Y.


- Original Message -
From: "bbanever" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: Cancer Alternative treatments


Laurie,

  You must look into getting this machine, the Pyro-energen.  It was
discovered by a Japanese MD and is now being manufactured in the US and
Phillipines.  It works through negative static electricity... absolutely
no
side effects but kills any and all virus in the body.  It does not kill
bacteria but most Leukemia is virus induced (even if ultimately caused
by
chemical exposure or radiation, this damages the cells/immune system
that
allows the virus to infect cellular DNA).  One case cited cured his
leukemia
in ONE WEEK.

http://www.pyroenergen.com/

 Best of luck.

 Bob
  - Original Message -
  From: Laurie Bartlett
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:40 AM
  Subject: CS>RE: Cancer Alternative treatments


  Hi Mike,
  I am sorry for your loss.

  My dad has Leukemia that is in remission. Can you direct me to the
search
for alternative treatments? I would like to start now and hopefully be
prepared if needed. Thanks so much.

  Laurie

  http://www.youravon.com/lbartlett



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CS>Canadian Silver Maple Leaf - Purity

2005-02-19 Thread Ron

Users of the Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins in the production of CS.

For the groups general information.

This is a second request for this information...

To the: Royal Canadian Mint. (RMC)
*

"I would like to verify the stated "four 9", (), (99.99%) purity of the 
Five Dollar Silver Maple Leaf coins.
Would you please answer these questions about the purity of the silver, and the 
% of content of other minerals, you use in minting your five dollars Silver 
Maple Leaf coins.

Are assayer samples taken and tested for purity for each run of minting of the 
coins?

Are assayer samples & testing done for each year of mintage?

Are any of these reports available to the public?

How can I get a copy of these reports for each of the years these coins have 
been minted?"

Thanks,
Ron
***

I will post any replies when received...




Re: CS>

2005-02-19 Thread kent

himagain,
awhile ago you posted a message with a software program enabling the user 
to send voice e-mails.  Could I have that link again it's on my old computer 
that is out of service.

Thanks a lot
Kent
- Original Message - 
From: "Himagain" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: CS>



At 02:55 AM 11/02/05, you wrote:


WHAT IS ALPHA-1 ANTITRYPSIN DEFICIENCY  EMPHYSEMA?

Alpha-1 related emphysema is caused by an inherited lack of a
protective protein called alpha-1 antitrypsin (AAT).


But you will notice - not a word about environmental factors or diet.
So-called inherited deficiencies like these are often caused by parental 
lifestyles (passed on) and locality. Living in a Steel Town - or such.


You ought to see the hidden problems looming for Boeing - Toxic intake - 
mainly Aluminium related  .- Not much being said about it there...

'Cos it's all inherited too.

Himagain



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