Re: CS>Gall Stones
I have a question: if one can't take grapefruit what would you take in it's place? Would lemon juice be okay? Thanks in advance, Cindy http://www.4optimallife.com/Liver-Cleanse-And-Detoxification-Procedures.html Kallie Miller -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Gall Stones
You can go here for the Hulda Clark liver cleanse. I have done 16 of them and got some "stones" as big as robin's eggs. A male friend of mine had them the size of golf balls. http://www.4optimallife.com/Liver-Cleanse-And-Detoxification-Procedures.html I had no problems whatsoever. I have tried about four other cleanses and this is the one I prefer. A chiropractor wrote a book about avoiding gall bladder surgery and I have forgotten the title. He had you drinking apple juice for quite a few days first. Kallie Miller - Original Message - From: "William Amos" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: CS>Gall Stones > > Hello All > Does anyone have any remedies for gall stones to avoid surgery ? > Thanks > Bill > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Gall Stones
Hi William, surgery is not an option. It will screw up your digestion for the rest of your life. The doctors are idiots, they dont think you need a gall bladder but they are wrong. there are no extra parts in a body that can be cut out. The gall bladder is very important so do whatever it takes to get the stones out without loosing any part of yourself Take care, V http://www.theledman.net http://www.pulsepowermeter.com > Hello All > Does anyone have any remedies for gall stones to avoid surgery ? > Thanks > Bill > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour --
Re: CS>Gall Stones
See the Liver Flush Support Forum at www.curezone.com GE www.expertembroidery.com www.livingnow.net/gevans - Original Message - From: "William Amos" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: CS>Gall Stones > > Hello All > Does anyone have any remedies for gall stones to avoid surgery ? > Thanks > Bill -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Gall Stones
go to www.curezone.com they have different types of liver gallbaldder flushes you can try - Original Message - From: "William Amos" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: CS>Gall Stones Hello All Does anyone have any remedies for gall stones to avoid surgery ? Thanks Bill -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Gall Stones
Hello All Does anyone have any remedies for gall stones to avoid surgery ? Thanks Bill -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Clifton Mining/Silver Biotics™ News
"...Government American Biotech Labs has been issued a government purchase contract on the Silver Biotics™ product. The GSA government purchase number is GSA # GS-07F-0826N..." http://www.cliftonmining.com/ablsum.htm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 5/17/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>treatment for post surgical wounds
Mary H wrote: Had arthroscopic surgery to my left knee almost three weeks ago and one of the incisions is still infected and today the Dr. put me on Zitromicin and said if it was not better by Friday he would put me in the hospital for IV antibiotics.<< A sure relief will be found in the Castor Oil packs. For info, please write to faithstfran...@interneeds.net Take care, Faith _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Thanks for that, Marshall. The clinic is worth knowing about, too. Sally Marshall Dudley wrote: This part focuses more on how to market technologies that heal and beat the FDA in their attempts to prevent you from doing so. Worth reading for anyone wanting to market alternative therapies without going to prison. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest: knee infection
Hi Mary, Did they put in dissolvable stitches? Any dissolvable stitches made my incisions stay raw, open and weepy. I had to go in and pull the stitches out, myself. Once I did that they healed up just fine. This was before my knowledge of CS, so no, I did not try any. G Murray Helen Woodward wrote: Hi, Had arthroscopic surgery to my left knee almost three weeks ago and one of the incisions is still infected and today the Dr. put me on Zitromicin and said if it was not better by Friday he would put me in the hospital for IV antibiotics. Suppose to clean it once a day with dial soap and put bandage on. Have been cleaning it and putting about 22 ppm CS on it and the infection is worse. The Dr. said if was Strep (don't think he said Staff) is one worse than the other. Can't understand why the CS didn't help? Any help would be appreciated. Mary H> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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This part focuses more on how to market technologies that heal and beat the FDA in their attempts to prevent you from doing so. Worth reading for anyone wanting to market alternative therapies without going to prison. Marshall 2. ASSETS AND LIABILITIES The question for a marketer is this: How to achieve maximum penetration of the target market with the available capital? There are four ways to get capital: 1. Borrow the money from a bank or lending institution. 2. Sell shares of ownership. 3. Let customers advance you the money. 4. Get donations to your cause. You must think carefully about which method best suits your existing assets and ownership structure. As I see it, you have these assets: 1. The boxes 2. The schematic of the box 3. Knowledge of how to use it 4. Past clients, including yourself 5. A Web document: [http://shurl.org/coburn] 6. Newspaper clippings about the box 7. Money in the bank 8. A location for treating people You may have other assets. List them. You also have liabilities. These include: 1. Hostility of licensed medical practitioners 2. Bad publicity (QuackWatch) 3. A single location (expensive) 4. Potential legal threat: licensing 5. No recognized formal training system for practitioners 6. No organized marketing program 7. No cheap replacement of the boxes If you have other liabilities, list them. With what you have, how do you propose to bring the healing power of the technology to those people who need the healing that it can provide? There is an old rule in marketing: "If everybody needs what you have, you will have a hard time selling it to anybody." Why is this true? Because you can't afford to advertise it to everyone who needs it. If you try to do this, your marketing budget will be dissipated. People rarely believe advertisers. Only people who are 80% ready to buy will respond. In any case, different people have different hot buttons. You cannot afford to press all of them. The task of the marketer is to identify a representative member of a target audience and then find a way to sell him the service at less cost than it takes to deliver the service to him. If you can sell it to him, you can sell it to people like him. For a new technology, the standard marketing approach is to sell to the rich, and then use the income to (1) fund the next marketing campaign to the slightly less rich; (2) find ways to lower production costs. The biggest problem with healing today is that the health-care field is an oligopoly. The state controls patient access, prices, and practitioners' training. This either keeps prices higher than need to be or else it leads to rationing by standing in line. Sometimes, it does both: the rich buy services outside of the subsidized system, paying more, while the less rich line up inside the system. 3. MARKETING You must find a way to do the following: 1. Get the story of the box to sick people. 2. Motivate them to pay for services. 3. Avoid legal battles in court. 4. Not get shut down by the authorities. 5. Recruit devoted practitioners. 6. Train these practitioners in the technology. 7. Make sure they get paid. 8. Make sure you get paid. 9. Do not violate the ethics of healing. Healing is a quasi-priestly activity. It involves delivering a service that may be a life-or-death matter. Wherever healing has been involved, healing practitioners have always been divided regarding pricing: (1) high bid wins (free market) vs. the tithe principle: payment in terms of what the sick person can afford. This is why there are medical missionaries who quit successful urban practices to go into the bush. I suggest a plan that is a combination of the pricing systems, as most healers have also chosen. To maximize initial revenue, sell to the rich. In this world, this means urban Westerners. To help the spread of the technology, offer lower prices to poor people, but only when seats are not being filled at prevailing prices. A healing center should be operating 24x6. Take Sundays off. To lower the per client cost of the real estate, a center should have all-night service. This maximizes both revenue and healing. You must strive to maximize the number of people healed, for word-of-mouth marketing must be the primary form you adopt. This reduces public exposure. It also lowers marketing costs. You want rapid penetration all over the world. It is better to abandon tight proprietary control over the actual technology in order to maximize the number of practitioners. The secret of success is in the stru
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This is a financial newsletter I subscribe to. They are of course focused on the financial aspects of things mainly, but this one is about things like blood electrification, Rife and so forth. Thought it would be of interest. Marshall Gary North's REALITY CHECK Issue 447 May 17, 2005 BECAUSE HEALING THE SICK IS ILLEGAL. . . . What if I told you there is a two-room clinic where you may be able get cured of cancer, or Lou Gehrig's disease, or AIDS, or muscular dystrophy, or arthritis, or chronic fatigue syndrome? You will not be cut, drugged, or burned. You will not need anesthesia. You can, if you ask, receive prayer. But prayer is optional. The technique works without prayer. What would you say? (1) "You're nuts." (b) "Someone will soon be going to jail, unless the treatment is available only on some new country-island where avant-garde practitioners pay bribes." (3) "Where can I sign up?" I won't make any such claims. Instead, I will tell a story. I'm part of this story. But I am going to be a bit vague about geographical details. For most readers, I hope this information will not be personally useful, although I trust you will find it fascinating. For a few of you, it will be a life-and-death matter. The sad thing is this: because of legal reasons, members of the second group are not going to be able to take advantage of my information. Think of this report as a sign: Dead End Your Tax Dollars at Work AN ASTOUNDING CLAIM My story has to do with a purported cure for a specific form of disease: specifically, virus-borne disease. But, you may think, that's not just one disease. You are correct. The moment we move from "a disease" to a broad range of diseases with a common cause, the word "cure" becomes legally actionable. He who promises such a cure in exchange for money is going to have a visit from the Food & Drug Administration or a sister organization. I speak from experience. My wife once loaned $10,000 to such a victim to hire a lawyer to protect him from the FDA temporarily. This delay strategy worked. The defendant had enough time to escape from the United States, and take his cure with him. My wife never got her money back. Neither of us resents the fact. The man is now dead. He died in 2001, a decade after his flight from "justice." That is why I am telling part of his story. I am not telling all of it because the extraordinary technique that cured so many people -- though not all -- still exists. I know where it was being offered two years ago. MY WIFE'S STORY I have told my wife's story elsewhere. My article remains on-line. I do not need to tell it again. Here is a brief synopsis. My wife in 1988 was suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome, also known as Epstein-Barr disease. She was in constant pain, slept 13 to 14 hours a day, could not drive faster than 15 miles an hour without thinking she was speeding, could not remember anything she read within 15 seconds after reading it, and was getting worse. This had gone on for 18 months. I sent her to a clinic in California. In three days of treatments, 8 hours a day, all symptoms disappeared. They have not been back. I wrote up this story for my REMNANT REVIEW subscribers. About a dozen of them then went to the clinic. Most were cured. One was not. At the clinic, my wife met a patient who said she had suffered from muscular dystrophy. She had been crippled by it. Now, she was almost fully functional. The most famous of the patients was James Coburn, who had been forced out of acting by arthritis. I interviewed him a decade ago for my tape subscription service (which no longer exists). He told his story to me. He had been in so much pain that on some days, he could not raise his arm to comb his hair, which was not good for a man who starred in action movies, he said. I have a file of newspaper clippings on Coburn's subsequent visits to the clinic, which by then was operating in England. I went public with this story the week after Coburn died. You can read it here: http://shurl.org/coburn What was the cure? It was a machine. I called it "the black box," even though it was really gray. A patient would sit in a reclining chair. An assistant put a series of wires on the person's toes and upper chest. Then the assistant turned on the machine. Except for a slight tingling, there was no other sensation. There the patient sat, usually for three hours. The main discomfort was boredom. It took my wife three days to get well. The inventor admitted that this was a record. It took two series of treatments for my pastor friend's son to get out of a wheelchair to full recovery. The first series took two weeks; the second took a week. I have a BBC-broadcast video of the initial phase of
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest: knee infection
> Hi, > Had arthroscopic surgery to my left knee almost three weeks ago and one > of the incisions is still infected and today the Dr. put me on > Zitromicin and said if it was not better by Friday he would put me in > the hospital for IV antibiotics. Suppose to clean it once a day with > dial soap and put bandage on. Have been cleaning it and putting about 22 > ppm CS on it and the infection is worse. The Dr. said if was Strep > (don't think he said Staff) is one worse than the other. Can't > understand why the CS didn't help? Any help would be appreciated. Mary Of course, for anything else you do you'll want to continue to consult with your doctor, and don't take anything you get here as medical advice, because it's not. First question: What sort of CS are you using. Home made? How? Store- bought? What brand? I've just been through an experience that drove home to me the necessity of taking enough CS to make a difference. That I'll explain further in another post for the general benefit of the group. For CS to work it has to get to where the germs are. That usually means drinking enough of it to raise the levels of silver in the blood stream to therapeutic levels, as well as topical applications. Were you drinking it as well? How much and how often? Also, a quick douse with CS won't be as useful as saturating a gauze pad with CS and putting it over a wound, then keeping it moist. Another thing to explore would be the use of DMSO to carry the silver into the tissues through the skin. You'll want to research this option carefully, as there are some things you need to know for safety. So, there are a few thoughts on the matter. Please let us know how things progress. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: silver-digest Digest: knee infection
Hi, Had arthroscopic surgery to my left knee almost three weeks ago and one of the incisions is still infected and today the Dr. put me on Zitromicin and said if it was not better by Friday he would put me in the hospital for IV antibiotics. Suppose to clean it once a day with dial soap and put bandage on. Have been cleaning it and putting about 22 ppm CS on it and the infection is worse. The Dr. said if was Strep (don't think he said Staff) is one worse than the other. Can't understand why the CS didn't help? Any help would be appreciated. Mary H> - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #340 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS & argyria
Many ciculatory issues can cause people, or parts of people, to be blue. "Blue babies" is caused by a heart condition. People with argyria are blue 24/7. Benjy lost his blue tint within a few weeks and now he is about as normal a 7-year old boy as you might imagine. His lips and fingernails still turn a purplish blue when he gets cold or angry and that trait was exploited by the medical students back when Benjy was an infant. He inherited his father's lankiness and his mother's red hair... Red haired people generally have a translucent skin tone and quite often get really blue when cold or excited. Most of the skin color shows as freckles. Some don't even have freckles. They flash burn in the sun in, like, ten minutes. Krishna and most Indian Deities are depicted as having blue skin. Royalty was said to rule by devine right and were said to have been chosen by the "gods". There was a big issue about keeping the blood lines pure. They may actually be decendents of "Deities". Ode At 11:26 AM 5/16/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >What's the ppm silver in Troublesome Creek? > > >- Original Message - >From: "Marshall Dudley" >To: >Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:44 AM >Subject: Re: CS>CS & argyria > > >> Or a genetic disorder from inbreeding like the blue people of Virginia. >> >> http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rjh9u/fugate.html >> >> Marshall >> >> >> Ode Coyote wrote: >> >>> The association of the name "blue blood' and silverware use is pure >>> speculation..and HIGHLY unlikely. >>> In the 1910s and on, silver plated flatware became very common till >>> stainless took over as the main stay.. but no blue people made the news. >>> Blue blood decription is more likely to be from the appearance of fair >>> skinned people who stay out of the sun and/or an association with royal >>> blue as in rainments. [clothing] >>> Blue dyes [Indigo] were extremely expensive and highly prized at the >>> time. >>> >>> Ode >>> >>> At 11:01 PM 5/14/2005 -0400, you wrote: >>> > >>> >Matthew, >>> >What is .1 M? How does that translate into ppm? >>> > >>> >I didn't mean to imply that silver didn't accumulate >>> >in the body, the "Blue Bloods" demonstrated that. >>> >Peter Lindeman's testing concerned the accumulation of >>> >colloidal silver (EIS). Of course silver powder, >>> >probably silver compounds, and maybe even very large >>> >particle, coffee-colored CS (such as Stan Jones >>> >brewed) could accumulate, but in all those cases, it >>> >would seem to be because of the large particle size, >>> >and none of those three categories is colorless. >>> > >>> >In the case of silver nitrate, although it is >>> >colorless, it has a distinct staining property, which >>> >would certainly account for it causing argyria. See: >>> > >>> >http://www.espimetals.com/msds's/Silver%20Nitrate.htm >>> > >>> > >>> >"Effects of Exposure: Caustic and irritating to the >>> >skin and mucous membranes. Absorption over a long >>> >period may cause argyria (grayish discoloration of >>> >various tissues). Industrial argyria may be local, >>> >involving formation of gray-blue particles on the skin >>> >or in the conjunctivae, or generalized, in which the >>> >uncovered skin becomes pigmented. Ingestion can cause >>> >severe gastroenteritis." >>> > >>> >Also: >>> >http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factshee >>> t_072503.htm >>> > >>> > >>> >"Silver nitrate is a non-food-use active ingredient >>> >that is not toxic to humans. Applicators are >>> >instructed to use gloves to protect against contact >>> >with the skin because silver nitrate can discolor >>> >skin." >>> > >>> >The staining property of silver nitrate seems to set >>> >it in a separate class as far as argyria goes, since >>> >its lack of color could be unrelated concerning its >>> >argyria-causing potential. Would it be causative of >>> >argyria if it had no staining property? >>> > >>> >Are there other silver preparations that you are aware >>> >of that are scientifically implicated in the occasion >>> >of argyria? >>> > >>> >Terry Chamberlin >>> > >>> > >>> >__ >>> >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> > >>> >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>> > >>> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >>> > >>> >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>> >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >>> > >>> >List maintainer: Mike Devour >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> >No virus found in this incoming message. >>> >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005 >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by
Re: CS>CS & other cancer therapies
Johnathan, Correction - It is not the called the Aurastar, it is the Energy Testing Device. Contact Sylvia at ssr...@rochester.rr.com. Sorry about that. Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Sasha Date: 05/14/05 22:10:04 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS & other cancer therapies Jonathan, The Aurastar is a device that does just that. Contact Sylvia at ssr...@rochester.rr.com Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Jonathan B. Britten Date: 05/11/05 17:30:00 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS & other cancer therapies I have been searching for several years for a simple, high-quality hand-held device enabling an independent researcher to conduct self-checks of muscle strength. I would be GREATLY indebted to anyone who can provide such information. I would also be interested in cooperation from anyone skilled at making devices, particularly pneumatic tools. I am very poor at making things, alas, but I think the only way to get the tool I want is to make it myself or have someone make it. There is market potential for a good device but this is not my primary interest at present. JBB
CS>OT: long-term hazard of annoying email scams
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CS>CS Congressional Testimony
"...There is a severe shortage of malaria drugs, exposing millions of people, mostly pregnant women and children, to risk of serious disease and death. ABL and its government team have been diligently pursuing this application. For more information on the malaria studies please see William D. Moeller's full congressional testimony on http://wwwc.house.gov/international_relations/afhear.htm website..." http://www.cliftonmining.com/ann0.htm jr -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour