Re: CSThe Lethal Science Of Splenda - A Poisonous Chlorocarbon at News Breaking Healt
#1 rule Listen to those who don't have an agenda and try to jerk you around with a fear handle. Splenda has an agenda. The handle... fear of fat. So does any other side of any issue. #2 rule Everything is relative. 1% is not 1000% Natural things can kill you just as fast as a designed and engineered poison. You eat and breathe toxins every day you live. Ode At 11:45 AM 7/24/2005 -0400, you wrote: Well, OKI have read both posts. How do I find out whom to believe? Barbara Betty Martini's sucralose scare that is propagating on the Internet seems to be overstated. It does not mention that about 97% of each dose of about 15 mg of sucralose taken as a sweetener is excreted. This leaves .45 mg to be dealt with. While agenda supporters contend that no chlorine is good, there are in fact more than 2000 natural organic chlorine compounds, and naturally-occurring chlorine compounds are found in our blood, skin and teeth. Foods with significant amounts of chlorine include milk, liver, eggs and peanuts. Marine algae produce about 5 million tons of methyl chloride annually (about 15 times more than industrial production). Chlorine componds are in fact ubiquitous. Further, the contention that sucralose might somehow be related to pesticides simply because it contains chlorine is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Without the phenol or the benzene, a chlorinated organic compound is not at all like a pesticide; it's more like a naturally-occurring substance, and your body has built-in mechanisms to deal with it. Duncan Crow -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4 - Release Date: 7/22/2005
RE: CSThe Lethal Science Of Splenda - A Poisonous Chlorocarbon at News Breaking Healt
Fluorochlorocarbons are pretty much inert but contain both deadly Chlorine and Flourine...and carbon. [Sure, that stuff will 'break down' into toxic componants with high energy UV..but you don't have that sort of radiation source inside and if you did, that would kill you a lot faster] You can't make broad assumptions about chemical compounds. Each one has to be examined under real conditions in proper contexts. In summary, HFC-134a has been rigorously tested for toxicity more than is usual for other industrial chemicals, and all the testing has shown it to have extremely low toxicity. HFC-134a is expected to be at least as safe as CFC-12 which has an outstanding record of safety. CFCs are members of the halocarbon family; which consist of a chemical compound of the element carbon, and one or more of the halogens bromine, iodine, chlorine, or fluorine (Encyclopedia Brittannica, 1982). CFCs were first produced in 1928 by Thomas Midgley of the Frigirdaire Division of General Motors, to obtain a safer substitute to the previous toxic coolants such as ammonia and sulfur dioxide used in refrigeration and cooling systems. ..on the other hand... Water can be quite toxic. Ode At 01:50 PM 7/24/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hi Duncan, I have to differ with you on your point of view on splenda. I'm not a chemist, but I did read Betty Martini's article. She did not say that no chlorine is good. Rather she said chlorocarbons are bad, and that chlorine in other forms, such as salt, are safe. Quote: It is logical to ask why table salt, which also contains chlorine, is safe while Splenda/sucralose is toxic? Because salt isn't a chlorocarbon. When molecular chemistry binds sodium to chlorine to make salt carbon isn't included. Sucralose and salt are as different as oil and water. Unlike sodium chloride, chlorocarbons are never nutritionally compatible with our metabolic processes and are wholly incompatible with normal human metabolic functioning.. ...Splenda/sucralose is simply chlorinated sugar; a chlorocarbon. Common chlorocarbons include carbon tetrachloride, trichlorethelene and methylene chloride, all deadly. Chlorine is nature's Doberman attack dog, a highly excitable, ferocious atomic element employed as a biocide in bleach, disinfectants, insecticide, WWI poison gas and hydrochloric acid. End quote. You also mention that the body has only to deal with the .45 mg of a 15mg dose of suralose, and that your body has built in mechanisms to deal with it. While this is probably true, it is also true that our body has the ability to deal with many poisons/toxins such as lead, fluoride, cadmium, mercury, DDT and chloridane, PFOA (from Teflon) and dozens of other poisons... but WHY ADD TO THE BURDEN? With cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's, and so many other diseases on the rise, it just doesn't make sense to me. Doctors routinely see diseases today that were rare 30 and 40 years ago - Alzheimer's, childhood cancer and macular degeneration for example. There is so much toxic load in today's world that babies are now born polluted. See: http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=healthNewsstoryid=2005- 07-14T152835Z_01_N14715900_RTRIDST_0_HEALTH-CHEMICALS-DC.XML Also note that according to: http://www.splendaexposed.com/ the percent of splenda that your body absorbs is around 15% (2.25 mg) not 0.45 mg that you mention. I don't know who if either is correct. There are plenty of documented cases of people who didn't have the ability to detox splenda: http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_testimonials.htm Who knows what the long term side effects of Splenda are? - There have never been any long term studies to determine what they are, so those who take it are gambling. In my view, the prudent action is to use those sweeteners made by nature, they have a know track record of many generations. I don't understand why someone as yourself, who is a proponent of natural medicine, would promote something unnatural as splenda. John -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe Lethal Science Of Splenda - A Poisonous Chlorocarbon at News Breaking Healt Betty Martini's sucralose scare that is propagating on the Internet seems to be overstated. It does not mention that about 97% of each dose of about 15 mg of sucralose taken as a sweetener is excreted. This leaves .45 mg to be dealt with. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal copper and fungus
The simplest way is to snap 4 nines together [2 nines ain't enough], get a couple of lengths of copper house wiring for electrodes and run in distilled water till you see a TE in a laser beam. PPM Meters don't work at all with CC. Ode At 07:43 PM 7/24/2005 -0700, you wrote: Shirley can I get you to share with me how to make the ccthanks deb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4 - Release Date: 7/22/2005
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- Original Message - From: IAHF.COM j...@iahf.com To: p...@zoomnet.net Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:58 PM Subject: US TRADE REPS OFFICE ATTACKS DIETARY SUPPLEMENT CONSUMERS- COALITION RESPONDS- NEW FORM LETTER BELOW IAHF Webmaster: CODEX EMERGENCY, BREAKING NEWS, ANTI CAFTA, USA, ALL COUNTRIES IAHF List: Our grass roots health freedom movement has poked a stick directly into the EYE of the US Trade Representative, and they have responded with the most INANE spin I've ever seen coming from a governmental body. Their spin is grossly unimpressive and was easy to shred, which The Coalition For Health Freedom has done at http://www.coalitionforhealthfreedom.org/issues.html Senator Obama and other enemies of health freedom are quoting the USTR's spin, but we're counter attacking in several important ways and have a growing number of allies in the House of Representatives, many of whom have viewed, or will be viewing WE BECOME SILENT at http://www.welltv.com and who will be adding their signatures to a Dear Colleague letter that is being disseminated. Floor statements will be made that reflect our concerns, but its CRITICAL that we KEEP THE PRESSURE ON- t The vote on CAFTA could come any day this coming week, but our inside sources tell us it will most likely happen this coming Friday, Saturday or Sunday (congress will be in session this coming weekend as they tie up loose ends before August recess!!! This new form letter (below) fits on one page in Microsoft Word Format if you set your margins high at top and bottom as well as fairly wide on the edges. I will be working with someone in Bellingham WA who has volunteered to help me hand this out in front of the biggest health food stores there, and we need more of you to follow suit nationwide!!! Theres SAFETY in NUMBERS, folks. If I'm willing to stick my butt out there in the hot sun to hand these out, I know more of ya'll can help in whatever part of the country you are in. Please LET ME KNOW you're helping, that uplifts me, and makes me want to FIGHT HARDER!! email this to your congressman via http://www.house.gov/writerep/ Call Your Congressman via 866-340-9281 Capital Switchboard CAFTA BAD FOR DIETARY SUPPLEMENT CONSUMERS: VOTE _NO_ ON CAFTA Dear Congressman___ The US Trade Reps Office is Misleading the public in a policy statement titled CAFTA Dietary Supplements. See a thorough rebuttal to their statement, and to the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations at http://www.coalitionforhealthfreedom.org/issues.html Section 6 of the CAFTA Treaty requires us to create a Sanitary Phytosanitary Measures Committee to insure that we enter in to a constant process of harmonizing our laws to international standards. Section 3, the SPS Section of the WTO Trade Agreement, requires us to harmonize our laws to Codex standards: To harmonize sanitary and phytosanitary measures on as wide a basis as possible, members SHALL base their food safety measures on international standards, guidelines or recommendations. (Codex standards) On July 4, 2005, the UN's Codex Alimentarius Commission ratified a framework to create a global trade guideline for vitamins and minerals. In November Codex will move to bill in the blanks on allowable potency levels. The methodology being employed by the World Health Organization to fill in these blanks is scientifically biased given that it is only examining supposed risks of vitamins, while completely ignoring benefits, and its been heavily criticized by the Alliance for Natural Health in these extensive comments submitted to WHO http://www.alliance-natural-health.org/_docs/ANHWebsiteDoc_121.pdf ANH, along with all other critics of WHO's biased methodology were barred from participation in a Nutrient Risk Assessment Workshop presided over by an FDA employee, Dr.Christine Lewis Taylor, an unelected bureaucrat with a known bias against the Dietary Supplement Health Education Act of 1994 and against consumer access to vitamins and minerals within the therapeutic range. Given the well demonstrated bias, and flawed scientific methodology being employed, it is highly probable that Codex will fill in the blanks for allowed potencies of vitamins and minerals to potencies that are well below the therapeutic range- even lower than RDAs in some instances are reflected by column in the right side of this table: http://www.alliance-natural-health.org/_docs/ANHWebsiteDoc_145.doc Attorneys who have analyzed this situation caution us that we're dealing with emerging law here and that anything can happen. For example, the FDA has recently blocked some manufacturers from marketing products containing one or more New Dietary Ingredients (NDIs). Under DSHEA, any ingredient not in use at the time DSHEA was ratified is classified as an NDI, and the FDA requires the manufacturer submit 90 days advance notice of intent to market a product with it along with safety data to show a history
RE: CScolloidal copper and fungus
Hi Deb, If you are already making CS, then you know how to make CCu by simply replacing the silver electrodes with pure Copper wire--someone this week suggested that you hook up 4 9volt batteries and short wires to the copper wires in distilled water--a few hours will give you CCu for external use. Mr son uses CCu + strong CS + H2O2 in his Hot tub to replace the harmful, irritating Chlorine in the water--very successful.. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScolloidal copper and fungus Shirley can I get you to share with me how to make the ccthanks deb
Re: CSThe Lethal Science Of Splenda - A PoisonousChlorocarbon at News Breaking Healt
Yeh, the HFC-134a is a good example of industry controlling what can can sold to maximize their profits. When freon 12 was banned, and freon 22 was restricted, they started looking for a good replacement. One was quickly found, a combination of butane and propane. In fact it worked as well as or better than the original freons, was compatible with them and the lubrication oil they used, so it could be used directly to replace them. But oh no, those chemicals are dirt cheap, and Dupont did not want to lose this nice cash cow, so they convinced congress that use of these should be outlawed because they are flammable. They ignored that fact that there is only a few pounds of them in a car air conditioner, and if they leaked they would immediately dissipate, and there is about 100 times more highly explosive gasoline in a car, plus the fact that freon was also flammable. They outlawed the environment finely butane an propane, and instead pushed the less friendly 134a because they could patent it and make more money on it. It required completely redoing the systems, uses an incompatible oil, and is, as far as I know, flammable as well. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Fluorochlorocarbons are pretty much inert but contain both deadly Chlorine and Flourine...and carbon. [Sure, that stuff will 'break down' into toxic componants with high energy UV..but you don't have that sort of radiation source inside and if you did, that would kill you a lot faster] You can't make broad assumptions about chemical compounds. Each one has to be examined under real conditions in proper contexts. In summary, HFC-134a has been rigorously tested for toxicity more than is usual for other industrial chemicals, and all the testing has shown it to have extremely low toxicity. HFC-134a is expected to be at least as safe as CFC-12 which has an outstanding record of safety. CFCs are members of the halocarbon family; which consist of a chemical compound of the element carbon, and one or more of the halogens bromine, iodine, chlorine, or fluorine (Encyclopedia Brittannica, 1982). CFCs were first produced in 1928 by Thomas Midgley of the Frigirdaire Division of General Motors, to obtain a safer substitute to the previous toxic coolants such as ammonia and sulfur dioxide used in refrigeration and cooling systems. ..on the other hand... Water can be quite toxic. Ode At 01:50 PM 7/24/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hi Duncan, I have to differ with you on your point of view on splenda. I'm not a chemist, but I did read Betty Martini's article. She did not say that no chlorine is good. Rather she said chlorocarbons are bad, and that chlorine in other forms, such as salt, are safe. Quote: It is logical to ask why table salt, which also contains chlorine, is safe while Splenda/sucralose is toxic? Because salt isn't a chlorocarbon. When molecular chemistry binds sodium to chlorine to make salt carbon isn't included. Sucralose and salt are as different as oil and water. Unlike sodium chloride, chlorocarbons are never nutritionally compatible with our metabolic processes and are wholly incompatible with normal human metabolic functioning.. ...Splenda/sucralose is simply chlorinated sugar; a chlorocarbon. Common chlorocarbons include carbon tetrachloride, trichlorethelene and methylene chloride, all deadly. Chlorine is nature's Doberman attack dog, a highly excitable, ferocious atomic element employed as a biocide in bleach, disinfectants, insecticide, WWI poison gas and hydrochloric acid. End quote. You also mention that the body has only to deal with the .45 mg of a 15mg dose of suralose, and that your body has built in mechanisms to deal with it. While this is probably true, it is also true that our body has the ability to deal with many poisons/toxins such as lead, fluoride, cadmium, mercury, DDT and chloridane, PFOA (from Teflon) and dozens of other poisons... but WHY ADD TO THE BURDEN? With cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's, and so many other diseases on the rise, it just doesn't make sense to me. Doctors routinely see diseases today that were rare 30 and 40 years ago - Alzheimer's, childhood cancer and macular degeneration for example. There is so much toxic load in today's world that babies are now born polluted. See: http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=healthNewsstoryid=2005- 07-14T152835Z_01_N14715900_RTRIDST_0_HEALTH-CHEMICALS-DC.XML Also note that according to: http://www.splendaexposed.com/ the percent of splenda that your body absorbs is around 15% (2.25 mg) not 0.45 mg that you mention. I don't know who if either is correct. There are plenty of documented cases of people who didn't have the ability to detox splenda: http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_testimonials.htm Who knows what the long term side effects of Splenda are? - There have never been any long term studies to determine what they are, so those who take
Re: CSThe Lethal Science Of Splenda - A Poisonous Chlorocarbon at News Breaking Healt
Yes, definitely, I understand the money trail. I never used splenda (or apartame) and have no intentions to, now. I also know that natural things are not all good for us. On the other hand, we evolved somewhat prepared to neutralize, fight off the natural compounds much better than the man-made evils that are thrown at us daily. Barbara #1 rule Listen to those who don't have an agenda and try to jerk you around with a fear handle. Splenda has an agenda. The handle... fear of fat. So does any other side of any issue. #2 rule Everything is relative. 1% is not 1000% Natural things can kill you just as fast as a designed and engineered poison. You eat and breathe toxins every day you live. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolloidal zinc and copper
For making colloidal copper I just use copper wire and 3 nine volt batteries. I don't use my good unit to make it as this might damage it. That's just my idea, but anyway the 3 bat. in series does fine. Now as to colloidal zinc--Duncan, that sounds like a good idea. Do you havppen to know a local source for the zinc, like maybe Home Depot?? I will try metals in the yellow pages. And presumably the 3 nine volt battery arrangement will work for this like it does for silver and copper? And we are talking putting this on the skin and not drinking it--correct? I would be kinda leery of drinking it. Maybe colloidal selenium can be made and used this way too. Just a thought. Thanks for the input. pj Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScolloidal copper and fungus**
Thanks Richard for your replywhat about strength and dosage...can cc be toxic at any point? Appreciate any and all advice thanks again.deb
CSDeb re CCu
Hi Deb. If I understand correctly then just replace the silver electrodes with copper wire. That's all there is to it. But I won't use my electronic CS maker because I'm afraid it might damage it if I change to a different type of electrode. I think the wires from an old extension cord are pure copper, but I'm not sure. I got some wire from Home Depot, but I think it was just copper plate. But my water turned green so I assumed I got CCu. Some other people on this list can give better instructions and probably will--hope so anyway. :) pj Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSitchy skin rash
Paula Perry wrote- Does anyone know any solutions for an itchy red skin rash on the hands? I do not know what is causing it. I have been using a drop on the foot of the Young Living Essential Oil, Lavender. I was wondering if I could be detoxing chemicals and or metals through the skin, because it is a very strange rash. I teach Printmaking (and other subjects) so I have been exposed to a lot of toxic chemicals. I have tried a variety of things to get rid of it including CS but haven't been totally successful so far. Thanks, Paula Paula, I don't know if this would work but it rang a bell when you talked of getting rid of chemical toxins, as one story I read about Far Infrared (FIR) tells of a painter than sat in a FIR sauna then touched a wall and left a paint print on it. I have gotten sensational results from FIR. I bought a $25 ceramic Infrared bulb off the internet that is intended for heating reptiles, and put it in a ceramic socket/metal hooded fixture from the feed store. I had a bad pain in my last vertebra where it attaches to the skull, kind of a numb burning sensation when I turned my head just a little, and sometimes when i wasn't turning it at all. I lay on the sofa face down with the lamp suspended just above my neck, 9-12 to the bulb surface, and stayed that way for an hour or more. My neck never hurt again! I am so impressed. I also got rid of a bad heel pain from dancing and doing a lot of jumping by heating it with the lamp for more than an hour at a time. I let it get quite hot-feeling, which is not uncomfortable for me but maybe for someone else. I've also seen claims about it killing cancer cells. This is an excerpt from a post on another forum: There are two ways that FIR works. One, you don't have to sweat. The frequency of far infrared harmonizes with healthy cells and weakens unhealthy cells (like cancer) which have a different frequency. So you want actual contact with the FIR waves for this. Which means have the unit that emits FIR very close to the body, like four inches or so away. FIR neutralizes toxins in your body. For this you also need direct contact with the fir waves. You need them to penetrate your tissues and so you need direct exposure. The other way FIR works is by heating the air. Hot air causes you to sweat. This is a sauna. When you sweat, toxins leave your body and you shower and wash them off. How you heat the air doesn't matter. A regular electrical heater will work. I wouldn't use one because they emit unhealthy electrial waves. FIR does not. In fact it is an antidote for unhealthy electrical exposure... So some people use FIR heaters, like Jim, to heat the air in a space and then they sit in front of the heaters and get some direct exposure to FIR waves, in addition to the hot air. You can find all manner of FIR heating elements. Some more costly than others. Many are bulbs, which cover only a small area. So you can buy more to cover more area. Not usually pretty or super convenient, but thrifty and workable. I also bought a wand massager with a ceramic FIR emitting ceramic disc on the end, and have been trying that. The long wand shape makes it hard to hold it on an area of the body. It can be placed next to the skin if there is some cloth in between. I haven't had experience with the Infrared LED lights, but some units have those instead and it would be possible for someone electronically adept to build an LED assembly with them. I don't know the difference in the frequencies they emit as compared to the ceramic ones which may be better in the FIR frequencies, and what different benefits they may have. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSitchy skin rash / FIR
- Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: CSitchy skin rash Paula, I don't know if this would work but it rang a bell when you talked of getting rid of chemical toxins, as one story I read about Far Infrared (FIR) tells of a painter than sat in a FIR sauna then touched a wall and left a paint print on it. The three years of research I did on FIR for my book, The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy, showed that FIR indeed has miraculous healing properties. Because the far infrared rays penetrate into the body between 1 and 2 inches (depending on fat and muscle composition, etc.), and because FIR at a certain micron wavelength resonates with the frequency of water, the healing benefits are quite profound. One healing center in New York City has framed a towel that was blackened by all the junk that came out when the person sweat. The person who sweated it out was a fireman who had been at Ground Zero. I have gotten sensational results from FIR. I bought a $25 ceramic Infrared bulb off the internet that is intended for heating reptiles, and put it in a ceramic socket/metal hooded fixture from the feed store. I had a bad pain in my last vertebra where it attaches to the skull, kind of a numb burning sensation when I turned my head just a little, and sometimes when i wasn't turning it at all. I lay on the sofa face down with the lamp suspended just above my neck, 9-12 to the bulb surface, and stayed that way for an hour or more. My neck never hurt again! I am so impressed. I also got rid of a bad heel pain from dancing and doing a lot of jumping by heating it with the lamp for more than an hour at a time. I let it get quite hot-feeling, which is not uncomfortable for me but maybe for someone else. This is a good poor person's FIR unit. Keep in mind, thought, that the healing benefits you felt from a FIR bulb are somewhat different from those experienced from FIR if the person were actually sweating. My book explains at length the physiological, biological, and even psychological benefits from sweating. I've also seen claims about it killing cancer cells. This is an excerpt from a post on another forum: There are two ways that FIR works. One, you don't have to sweat. The frequency of far infrared harmonizes with healthy cells and weakens unhealthy cells (like cancer) which have a different frequency. I have never heard this. I do know that cancer cells don't like HEAT. So if you are getting your body heated beyond a certain point, the cancer cells (and Lyme, and most microbes) will die. Clinics that bring up a cancer person's body temperature deliberately are practicing what is known as hyperthermia. So you want actual contact with the FIR waves for this. Which means have the unit that emits FIR very close to the body, like four inches or so away. FIR neutralizes toxins in your body. For this you also need direct contact with the fir waves. You need them to penetrate your tissues and so you need direct exposure. The other way FIR works is by heating the air. Hot air causes you to sweat. This is a sauna. When you sweat, toxins leave your body and you shower and wash them off. How you heat the air doesn't matter. A regular electrical heater will work. I wouldn't use one because they emit unhealthy electrial waves. FIR does not. In fact it is an antidote for unhealthy electrical exposure... This is patent nonsense. FIR does NOT heat the air. By nature, it heats *only solid objects.* So you have FIR heaters that do NOT touch the body and the body *will* absorb the FIR rays and then the FIR works its healing powers. If you touched most FIR heaters for any length of time, they would burn the skin. This is why you don't touch heaters ;-) Also nonsense is the claim that FIR does not emit unhealthy electrical waves. Far infrared radiation by itself is not unhealthy. (My book contains a very detailed explanation of different frequencies on the electromagnetic spectrum and explains how infrared and far infrared work.) However, the heater emitting the FIR *is* emitting unhealthy electromagnetic waves because it's an electrical device -- unless the heater has been shielded. This sounds like gobbledy-gook PR from people who are trying to sell something to people who don't know better because they haven't been informed. So some people use FIR heaters, like Jim, to heat the air in a space and then they sit in front of the heaters and get some direct exposure to FIR waves, in addition to the hot air. Just a small point -- FIR *is* heat. Technically speaking, all infrared radiation produces heat. You can find all manner of FIR heating elements. Some more costly than others. Many are bulbs, which cover only a small area. So you can buy more to cover more area. Not usually pretty or super convenient, but thrifty and workable. I
Re: CSitchy skin rash
Thanks for the interesting reply. It sounds like something worth trying. Paula - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: CSitchy skin rash Paula Perry wrote- Does anyone know any solutions for an itchy red skin rash on the hands? I do not know what is causing it. I have been using a drop on the foot of the Young Living Essential Oil, Lavender. I was wondering if I could be detoxing chemicals and or metals through the skin, because it is a very strange rash. I teach Printmaking (and other subjects) so I have been exposed to a lot of toxic chemicals. I have tried a variety of things to get rid of it including CS but haven't been totally successful so far. Thanks, Paula Paula, I don't know if this would work but it rang a bell when you talked of getting rid of chemical toxins, as one story I read about Far Infrared (FIR) tells of a painter than sat in a FIR sauna then touched a wall and left a paint print on it. I have gotten sensational results from FIR. I bought a $25 ceramic Infrared bulb off the internet that is intended for heating reptiles, and put it in a ceramic socket/metal hooded fixture from the feed store. I had a bad pain in my last vertebra where it attaches to the skull, kind of a numb burning sensation when I turned my head just a little, and sometimes when i wasn't turning it at all. I lay on the sofa face down with the lamp suspended just above my neck, 9-12 to the bulb surface, and stayed that way for an hour or more. My neck never hurt again! I am so impressed. I also got rid of a bad heel pain from dancing and doing a lot of jumping by heating it with the lamp for more than an hour at a time. I let it get quite hot-feeling, which is not uncomfortable for me but maybe for someone else. I've also seen claims about it killing cancer cells. This is an excerpt from a post on another forum: There are two ways that FIR works. One, you don't have to sweat. The frequency of far infrared harmonizes with healthy cells and weakens unhealthy cells (like cancer) which have a different frequency. So you want actual contact with the FIR waves for this. Which means have the unit that emits FIR very close to the body, like four inches or so away. FIR neutralizes toxins in your body. For this you also need direct contact with the fir waves. You need them to penetrate your tissues and so you need direct exposure. The other way FIR works is by heating the air. Hot air causes you to sweat. This is a sauna. When you sweat, toxins leave your body and you shower and wash them off. How you heat the air doesn't matter. A regular electrical heater will work. I wouldn't use one because they emit unhealthy electrial waves. FIR does not. In fact it is an antidote for unhealthy electrical exposure... So some people use FIR heaters, like Jim, to heat the air in a space and then they sit in front of the heaters and get some direct exposure to FIR waves, in addition to the hot air. You can find all manner of FIR heating elements. Some more costly than others. Many are bulbs, which cover only a small area. So you can buy more to cover more area. Not usually pretty or super convenient, but thrifty and workable. I also bought a wand massager with a ceramic FIR emitting ceramic disc on the end, and have been trying that. The long wand shape makes it hard to hold it on an area of the body. It can be placed next to the skin if there is some cloth in between. I haven't had experience with the Infrared LED lights, but some units have those instead and it would be possible for someone electronically adept to build an LED assembly with them. I don't know the difference in the frequencies they emit as compared to the ceramic ones which may be better in the FIR frequencies, and what different benefits they may have. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/05
Re: CSitchy skin rash / FIR
Thanks. I am going to try this. Paula - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: Re: CSitchy skin rash / FIR - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: CSitchy skin rash Paula, I don't know if this would work but it rang a bell when you talked of getting rid of chemical toxins, as one story I read about Far Infrared (FIR) tells of a painter than sat in a FIR sauna then touched a wall and left a paint print on it. The three years of research I did on FIR for my book, The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy, showed that FIR indeed has miraculous healing properties. Because the far infrared rays penetrate into the body between 1 and 2 inches (depending on fat and muscle composition, etc.), and because FIR at a certain micron wavelength resonates with the frequency of water, the healing benefits are quite profound. One healing center in New York City has framed a towel that was blackened by all the junk that came out when the person sweat. The person who sweated it out was a fireman who had been at Ground Zero. I have gotten sensational results from FIR. I bought a $25 ceramic Infrared bulb off the internet that is intended for heating reptiles, and put it in a ceramic socket/metal hooded fixture from the feed store. I had a bad pain in my last vertebra where it attaches to the skull, kind of a numb burning sensation when I turned my head just a little, and sometimes when i wasn't turning it at all. I lay on the sofa face down with the lamp suspended just above my neck, 9-12 to the bulb surface, and stayed that way for an hour or more. My neck never hurt again! I am so impressed. I also got rid of a bad heel pain from dancing and doing a lot of jumping by heating it with the lamp for more than an hour at a time. I let it get quite hot-feeling, which is not uncomfortable for me but maybe for someone else. This is a good poor person's FIR unit. Keep in mind, thought, that the healing benefits you felt from a FIR bulb are somewhat different from those experienced from FIR if the person were actually sweating. My book explains at length the physiological, biological, and even psychological benefits from sweating. I've also seen claims about it killing cancer cells. This is an excerpt from a post on another forum: There are two ways that FIR works. One, you don't have to sweat. The frequency of far infrared harmonizes with healthy cells and weakens unhealthy cells (like cancer) which have a different frequency. I have never heard this. I do know that cancer cells don't like HEAT. So if you are getting your body heated beyond a certain point, the cancer cells (and Lyme, and most microbes) will die. Clinics that bring up a cancer person's body temperature deliberately are practicing what is known as hyperthermia. So you want actual contact with the FIR waves for this. Which means have the unit that emits FIR very close to the body, like four inches or so away. FIR neutralizes toxins in your body. For this you also need direct contact with the fir waves. You need them to penetrate your tissues and so you need direct exposure. The other way FIR works is by heating the air. Hot air causes you to sweat. This is a sauna. When you sweat, toxins leave your body and you shower and wash them off. How you heat the air doesn't matter. A regular electrical heater will work. I wouldn't use one because they emit unhealthy electrial waves. FIR does not. In fact it is an antidote for unhealthy electrical exposure... This is patent nonsense. FIR does NOT heat the air. By nature, it heats *only solid objects.* So you have FIR heaters that do NOT touch the body and the body *will* absorb the FIR rays and then the FIR works its healing powers. If you touched most FIR heaters for any length of time, they would burn the skin. This is why you don't touch heaters ;-) Also nonsense is the claim that FIR does not emit unhealthy electrical waves. Far infrared radiation by itself is not unhealthy. (My book contains a very detailed explanation of different frequencies on the electromagnetic spectrum and explains how infrared and far infrared work.) However, the heater emitting the FIR *is* emitting unhealthy electromagnetic waves because it's an electrical device -- unless the heater has been shielded. This sounds like gobbledy-gook PR from people who are trying to sell something to people who don't know better because they haven't been informed. So some people use FIR heaters, like Jim, to heat the air in a space and then they sit in front of the heaters and get some direct exposure to FIR waves, in addition to the hot air. Just a small point -- FIR *is* heat. Technically speaking, all
Re: CSitchy skin rash
A Canadian friend of mine built this infrared sauna for $150. He is going to help me build one next week, I have ordered the book from Dr. Wilson who highly recommends this inexpensive sauna from his experience. http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/sauna_therapy.htm#saunakits There is lots of valuable information on this website. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com Magnetic mattress pads, Water Ionizer/Alkalizers Rebounders, Zappers, Mental Imagery Procedures, EFT - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: CSitchy skin rash Paula, I don't know if this would work but it rang a bell when you talked of getting rid of chemical toxins, as one story I read about Far Infrared (FIR) tells of a painter than sat in a FIR sauna then touched a wall and left a paint print on it. I have gotten sensational results from FIR. I bought a $25 ceramic Infrared bulb off the internet that is ... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSitchy skin rash / FIR
Nenah Sylver wrote- The three years of research I did on FIR for my book, The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy, showed that FIR indeed has miraculous healing properties. Because the far infrared rays penetrate into the body between 1 and 2 inches (depending on fat and muscle composition, etc.), and because FIR at a certain micron wavelength resonates with the frequency of water, the healing benefits are quite profound. One healing center in New York City has framed a towel that was blackened by all the junk that came out when the person sweat. The person who sweated it out was a fireman who had been at Ground Zero. Thanks for the corrections and information on your book, Nenah! I read somewhere that in Japan they use FIR to treat cancer instead of surgery, radiation, and chemo. I am experimenting with FIR on various problems and it has been a great new resource. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSitchy skin rash / FIR
A young woman in Japan whom I knew attempted to help herself with FIR using a home sauna. She had metastasized stomach cancer. She loosely followed a protocol from Ireland involving FIR in conjunction with spirulina. The theory was that something in the this type of algae binds with cancer cells, and the FIR causes the altered cells to die. This therapy may in fact be useful, though it did not help this particular patient. Her husband still has a home sauna unit he purchased from the USA for about $500.00. It does indeed raise body temperature quickly are produce copious perspiration. On Tuesday, Jul 26, 2005, at 07:44 Asia/Tokyo, Tad Winiecki wrote: Nenah Sylver wrote- The three years of research I did on FIR for my book, The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy, showed that FIR indeed has miraculous healing properties. Because the far infrared rays penetrate into the body between 1 and 2 inches (depending on fat and muscle composition, etc.) , , , I read somewhere that in Japan they use FIR to treat cancer instead of surgery, radiation, and chemo. I am experimenting with FIR on various problems and it has been a great new resource. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
