CS>Re: CS Silver Magic - Pantone - Energy devices
An internet friend has sent me a link because she reckoned it was my sort of stuff. http://geet-pantone.com/molley.htm This is one of the items on it (Silver Magic): REVITALIZE AND ENERGIZE THE BODY Our special formula has been recognized as the best antiseptic to kill germs and viruses available. Silver Magic Is made in a rich emollient lotion with all natural ingredients: I.e.: STERIC ACID, ALOE VERA JELL E.D.T.A., T.E.A., MSM, COCONUT FATTY ACID, AND SQUALENE, WITH THE MILD FRAGRANCE OF ALOE. But there are many other items on the page, and I would like to hear the opinions of our knowledgeable forum members. Whittling away at the address to find the basic site, I don't feel inclined to pursue, but if the stuff itself is sound, and is working on energy laws, it could be useful. Anybody already know about this crew? Seems to be Canadian. Stuff about Tesla, too, and links to a Tesla Tech site http://www.teslatech.info/http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/entrance.htm Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Do you know any good Mutual fund that has Gilead? Better to join them than fight them. Brickey
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Rumsfeld To Profit From Bird Flu Hoax By Dr. Mercola www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm# Finally, the pieces of the puzzle start to add up. Not long ago, President Bush sought to instill panic in this country by telling us a minimum of 200,000 people will die from the avian flu pandemic, but it could be as bad as 2 million deaths in this country alone. This hoax is then used to justify the immediate purchase of 80 million doses of Tamiflu, a worthless drug that in no way shape or form treats the avian flu, but only decreases the amount of days one is sick and can actually contribute to the virus having more lethal mutations. So the U.S. placed an order for 20 million doses of this worthless drug at a price of $100 per dose. That comes to a staggering $2 billion. We are being told that Roche manufactures Tamiflu and, in a recent New York Times article, they were battling whether or not they would allow generic drug companies to help increase their production. But if you dig further you will find that a drug was actually developed by a company called Gilead that 10 years ago gave Roche the exclusive rights to market and sell Tamiflu. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/24/MNGHTDE8LG1.DTL Ahh, The Plot Thickens... If you read the link below from Gilead, you'll discover Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was made the chairman of Gilead in 1997. Since Rumsfeld holds major portions of stock in Gilead, he will handsomely profit from the scare tactics of the government that is being used to justify the purchase of $2 billion of Tamiflu. For more on the nonsense of the avian flu hoax, you'll want to review today's other post on the subject. www.mercola.com/blog/2005/oct/18/avian_flu_epidemic_scare_is_a_hoax Finally Medical Journal Admits the Truth This week's British Medical Journal has an editorial on the bird flu in which they state the following: "The lack of sustained human-to-human transmission suggests that this AH5N1 avian virus does not currently have the capacity to cause a human pandemic." http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/331/7523/975 While they do go on to say the virus could mutate with the influenza A virus and has the potential to acquire the means for rapid human to human transmission, it does NOT have this ability now. All the preparation and fear being created in the media is about a theoretical speculation. Now I am a former Boy Scout and fully believe in being prepared, but this is nothing even close to following recommendations made by experts to New Orleans that if implemented would have saved 1000 lives and half a million homes and well over 100 billion dollars from Hurricane Katrina. No this is all about creating fear and panic to benefit the drug companies. Now, I am still not opposed to being prepared for this potential bird flu pandemic. It is POSSIBLE it might materialize. But if it did there is no way that the flu vaccine or Tamiflu will mitigate its damage. No way. Also see: www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm
Re: CS>dermaseptic device
On 2 Nov 2005 at 12:15, Rowena wrote about : Subject : Re: CS>dermaseptic device How interesting. I wonder whether a couple of bits of silver at the end of wires in a Godzilla device would do something similar. And whether it would be effective in Spider Bites!! Users claim success with mosquito and ant bites, and using it for any infection. Rowena Anyone use this device from the Klearson Co in Boulder? www.dermaseptic.com Lots of claims backed up with dbl blind studies. Found the ad in a flight magazine. TJ = Hi Rowena, I picked up a tick last week Monday morning on a walk through the bush, only found the beast that evening and it was well stuck into the skin. Usually i would get a headache and flu symtoms varying from bad to absolutely terrible. However this time I threw everything at it. Lots of CS, home made with tap water, about 1.5 litre per day. I also applied the ends of the silver rods of my silver generator to the little bite wound and around it. But what seemed to make a major effect was a drop of lugols iodine applied to the bite a few times. The bite did swell and go hard and red for about 1" diameter with an wet 3mm hole in the centre. But no black centre!! amazing. And very mild symptoms, a slight headache for the week and sniffles for a few days. I did get constipated for two days (unusual) but that has settled back to my steady normal. The 'bite' is still there a week later but the swelling has gone down. I'll take another photo. So something worked. Applying the CS generator to the bite was tricky because it was near the middle on the hip bone (over the sacroiliac joint) and I could see it. Basically i damped the ends of the rods and prodded around until I could feel it. so one silver rod was on/in the bite and the other rod was on the skin nearby. I also tried holding one rod and prodding with the other so that the 'lectricity was travelling up my back and down my arm. Also swapped contacts so applied positive and then negative polarity. Probably only applied for a minute a time each polarity. My CS generator limits current to 1mA. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS>Bird flu a hoax
A major TV news channel in Japan just featured a brief segment in which a Japanese health ministry expert openly discussed the likelihood that some one recent, severe flu outbreak in Asia, with fatalities, was in fact the result of a faulty immunization.I was glad to see open discussion of the issue in a mainstream format. On Wednesday, Nov 2, 2005, at 21:47 Asia/Tokyo, Ian Roe wrote: The SARS virus could have been man made or nature made. Same thing for the Avain Flu. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>collodial silver and yeast
I know this has been discussed before but does anyone have any more information on silver and yeast(candida)? I have done some research and it seems to depend on the particular opinion of the person writing. Soverign silver states that you should take probioitics with silver due to the killing of bacteria in the intestines. I have also heard that silver can cause yeast in the same way antibiotics do. Many other web sites claim that silver kills yeast. This is very confusing. I also wanted to know if anyone had any information on a product called clove and silver? Is there anyone on this forum that has used it or has used ozonated olive oil internally? Thanks __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bird flu a hoax
I got this in my mail a few days ago: Special Report: The Bird Flu and You By Strategic Forecasting, Inc. Stratfor subscribers have been sending us a steady river of requests for our opinion on the bird flu situation. Although we are not medical experts, among our sources are those who are. And here is what we have been able to conclude based on their input and our broader analysis of the bird flu threat: Calm down. Now let us qualify that: Since December 2003, the H5N1 bird flu virus -- which has caused all the ruckus -- has been responsible for the documented infection of 121 people, 91 one of whom caught the virus in Vietnam. In all cases where information on the chain of infection has been confirmed, the virus was transmitted either by repeated close contact with fowl or via the ingestion of insufficiently cooked chicken products. In not a single case has human-to-human communicability been confirmed. So long as that remains the case, there is no bird flu threat to the human population of places such as Vietnam at large, much less the United States. The Politics of Genetics An uncomfortable but undeniable fact is that there are a great many people and institutions in this world that have a vested interest in feeding the bird flu scare. Much like the "Y2K" bug that commanded public attention in 1999, bird flu is all you hear about. Comparisons to the 1918 Spanish influenza have produced death toll projections in excess of 360 million, evoking images of chaos in the streets. One does not qualify for funding -- whether for academic research, medical development or contingency studies -- by postulating about best-case scenarios. The strategy is to show up front how bad things could get, and to scare your targeted benefactors into having you study the problem and manufacture solutions. This hardly means that these people are evil, greedy or irresponsible (although, in the case of Y2K or when a health threat shuts down agricultural trade for years, one really tends to wonder). It simply means that fear is an effective way to spark interest and action. Current medical technology lacks the ability to cure -- or even reliably vaccinate against -- highly mutable viral infections; the best available medicines can only treat symptoms -- like Roche's Tamiflu, which is becoming as scarce as the oftentimes legendary red mercury -- or slow a virus' reproduction rate. Is more research needed? Certainly. But are we on the brink of a cataclysmic outbreak? Certainly not. A bird flu pandemic among the human population is broadly in the same category as a meteor strike. Of course it will happen sooner or later -- and when it does, watch out! But there is no -- absolutely no -- particular reason to fear a global flu pandemic this flu season. This does not mean the laws of nature have changed since 1918; it simply means there is no way to predict when an animal virus will break into the human population in any particular year -- or even if it will at all. Yes, H5N1 does show a propensity to mutate; and, yes, sooner or later another domesticated animal disease will cross over into the human population (most common human diseases have such origins). But there is no scientifically plausible reason to expect such a crossover to be imminent. But if you are trying to find something to worry about, you should at least worry about the right thing. A virus can mutate in any host, and pound for pound, the mutations that are of most interest to humanity are obviously those that occur within a human host. That means that each person who catches H5N1 due to a close encounter of the bird kind in effect becomes a sort of laboratory that could foster a mutation and that could have characteristics that would allow H5N1 to be communicable to other humans. Without such a specific mutation, bird flu is a problem for turkeys, but not for the non-turkey farmers among us. But we are talking about a grand total of 115 people catching the bug over the course of the past three years. That does not exactly produce great odds for a virus -- no matter how genetically mutable -- to evolve successfully into a human-communicable strain. And bear in mind that the first-ever human case of H5N1 was not in 2003 but in 1997. There is not anything fundamentally new in this year's bird flu scare. A more likely vector, therefore, would be for H5N1 to leap into a species of animal that bears similarities to human immunology yet l
Re: CS>Bird flu a hoax
They also don't tell you that those who died handled the birds directly. Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 11/02/05 05:05:32 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Bird flu a hoax ### What bothers me about this "scare" is that they'll say how many people died from the bird flu, but don't say how many survived it. search search... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1 H5N1 As of <>
RE: CS>microwave dangers
Ken, Why hasn't anyone else done work like Han Hertel? This study is many years old, now. No one else on earth has done a study on whether microwave ovens affect food quality? This report was banned and a gag order was put on Hans Hertel. Who wants the power of the Microwave industry after them? Or any of the powers to be for that matter. What about the nurse that warmed baby bottles in the microwave and supposedly killed one of them? Something that bugs me is that many fast food places are cooking everything in the microwave. These places must be avoided like the plague. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>microwave dangers
Why hasn't anyone else done work like Han Hertel? This study is many years old, now. No one else on earth has done a study on whether microwave ovens affect food quality? -Ken Bagwell --- Wayne Fugitt wrote: > > > > >"Hans Hertel"+microwave > >Maybe you will find his study. > > That is the study I posted the link to on my > website. It is formatted > in Word. > > Wayne > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: CS>microwave dangers
"Hans Hertel"+microwave Maybe you will find his study. That is the study I posted the link to on my website. It is formatted in Word. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>kidney stones
Marshall, et al, Yes, David is a phenomenon. I have done one reading with him, and will do another soon, if he is available. The research he has done on the dramatic and increasingly visible changes that are occurring in the planets of the solar system is stunning. I think it is noteworthy that that the conventional astronomy community is not reporting any of this stuff--- except the sunspots---in a manner that reaches the general public. His comparative theology of the "time of change" is equally worthwhile. Thank you for sharing your experiences with him Marshall. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 7:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>kidney stones Absolutely, I had a reading with David when he was first getting started. The day my tape arrived I had a dream of having a difficult time setting up a tripod for a camera. Well I got the tape a few hours later and it started with the words "The tripod in your dream represents ...". I almost fell out of my chair, I had never dreamed of a tripod before, and The tape was made days before I got it and dreamed it. It is obvious to me that whatever the source of information for the tap (claimed to be RA), also forced that dream on me. He actually has this event documented at http://ascension2000.com/reinc-sup.htm : In another dream reading case, David's client Marshall Dudley awoke with a dream where he had trouble setting up a tripod. Still remembering his dream, he then went out, found the tape from David in the mailbox and listened to it. David's dream also featured a person having difficulty setting up a tripod. As soon as the reading began, after one standard opening statement it began by saying, "The tripod represents." et cetera. Marshall was so impressed with this that he paid for David to fly out to Knoxville, Tennessee to do a lecture and workshop at Pellisippi State University, Goins Auditorium. It was David's first out-of-state lecture and was very well attended. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: > A man by the name David Wilcox believes himself to be another incarnation of > Edgar Cayce. Wilcox looks remarkably like EC, and has made an amazing > amount of research on the Earth's transition to a new order of reality. > > I have spoken with him, and he is a down-to-earth cool guy, in my > estimation. > > Cayce, right or wrong, was not a charlatan. > > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: Teri Johnston [mailto:t...@welshspringers.com] > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:30 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>kidney stones > > Wow TJ and Marshalee I have been reading Cayce for 30 yrs and have > tried many of his remedies with success. Not having kidney stones I > don't recall what he says about them. But I would use the castor oil > packs if it was me. Also if you drink iced tea I would quit. > > But just because you are unable to read his readings does not make > him a fraud. When you are an A.R.E. member you can have things > researched as the many volumes of his work is extensive. > > Teri > At 12:11 PM 10/28/2005, you wrote: > > >You know, TJ, I tried reading his stuff too. > >The gobbledygook made me realize he was a fraud. > >Marshalee > > > >>What does Cayce say about kidney stones? I have tried to read his > "readings" > >>but it as bad as reading Shakespeare. Did he recommend the packs for my > >>problem? TJ > >> > > > > > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005
RE: CS>microwave dangers
Search: "Hans Hertel"+microwave Maybe you will find his study. Jim -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>microwave dangers On the microwave oven topic, some have said this, some have said that, but it seemed to me that we should look at any legitimate research, rather than conjecture. "One short-term study found significant and disturbing changes in the blood of individuals consuming microwaved milk and vegetables. Eight volunteers ate various combinations of the same foods cooked different ways. All foods that were processed through the microwave ovens caused changes in the blood of the volunteers. Hemoglobin levels decreased and over-all white cell levels and cholesterol levels increased. Lymphocytes decreased." See: www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm Also: www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards2.htm Someone said: "Take a look at this thread www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3142 and check out the website the original poster is criticizing: www.relfe.com/microwave.html She *might* have made some important points but because of her illogical statement at the beginning, many readers stopped listening to her." The *illogical* statement being referred to was presumably the reference to a woman who died after being given blood heated in a microwave. On the second website, this claim was criticised with the statement, "The incident did happen, but a jury found that Norma Levitt was killed by a blood clot, not by blood heated in a microwave." I'm confused. How did they suppose this blood clot was formed? Could it be that microwaving the blood created a blood clot? I do not find that hard to believe. Dr. Mercola (above sites) seems to accept the idea of microwaves being unhealthy. The information in the articles on his website seem to make a very strong scientific case. I would be very interested in the outcome of an experiment using microwaved water with plants. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> correction should reaad info on Bird flu vs Spanish flu
I think I need a new keyboard >:)
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Information on flu mutation _http://www.haverford.edu/biology/edwards/disease/viral_essays/warnervirus.htm _ (http://www.haverford.edu/biology/edwards/disease/viral_essays/warnervirus.htm) and Info on the SPANISH Flu epidemic of 1919 _http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/_ (http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/) My concern is that Bob and Terry are both right and that there is a semi harmless "avian flu" and there is the Spanish flu all spanking new and cleaned up from it's storage in British labs. Immunities to flu seem to be specific to the flu itself. Because flu mutates. I think there is no broad spectrum immunity. >From my company in China I watched Western government agencies and "researchers" do things that resulted in BAD results . Like covering up the source of an FMD epidemic in Asia-and it's subsequent appearance in the UK near the very agency that was investigating it's outbreak and spread from the ME to HK. Since this was not the first time I had questioned the motives of these government agencies- 3 suspicious and frightening occurrences before FMD epidemic and one after that had to be statistically impossible. I kept the official correspondence of the "warnings" coming through my office. And why would Britain play the problem down? _http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/bird-flu-danger-played-down-as-british-anxie ty-grows/2005/10/17/1129401197213.html_ (http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/bird-flu-danger-played-down-as-british-anxiety-grows/2005/10/17/1129401197213.html ) and then this coupled - and missing or dead bio chemist since 1998 _http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/02/0205_040205_spanishflu.html_ (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/02/0205_040205_spanishflu.html) as someone pointed out Swine flu was Avian and the US Armed Forces and Britain bred samples of it from an Innuit, a dead soldier in SC and someone else. _http://www.epcc.edu/ftp/Homes/monicaw/borderlands/19_flu_1918.htm_ (http://www.epcc.edu/ftp/Homes/monicaw/borderlands/19_flu_1918.htm) The Donald Rumsfeld just happens to be the Secretary of Defense- any connection to the agency who took the sample and it was his company that made Tamilflu. Coincidence? Rumsfeld is not a medical doctor. Yet he speaks with confidence. Why? Maybe Bob and Terry are both right. Maybe we are looking at 2 different strains of flu. And to survive we must understand the difference. BNTW I do not remember the Spanish flu epidemic of 18 but it killed my grandmother and 2 uncles. I do remember the swine flu epidemic of the 70s This is my take on it. For a very long time I have suspected somebody wanted to breed an epidemic even if it was an epidemic of fear. Epidemics follow recognizable patterns. If information falls outside of any known pattern and the information has no reference to methodology or research ASK QUESTIONS! Harper
Re: CS>dermaseptic device: godzilla link
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ How can I find information on the "godzilla"? Thanks > Yeah I have made simalar devices that plug into the godzilla. I call it a > wartziller and it has a silver wire on the tip and you dip it in CS and > then apply to the spots you want to infuse with silver. you want the tip > to be positive becaues that is the side that gives off the silver when the > current flows. IDt works for many warts also by infusing silver into the > wart with a current. >>> How interesting. I wonder whether a couple of bits of silver at the end >> of wires in a Godzilla device would do something similar. >> And whether it would be effective in Spider Bites!! Users claim success >> with mosquito and ant bites, and using it for any infection. >> Anyone use this device from the Klearson Co in Boulder? >> www.dermaseptic.com >> Lots of claims backed up with dbl blind studies. Found the ad in a >> flight >> magazine. TJ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Irresponsible post
RIGHT ON TERRY -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Irresponsible post Ole Bob said, >Terry you are irresponisible !! >China who would not acknowledge the presents if SARS several years ago has stated publicly that when the bird flu mutates to humans it is closing its borders. That would be a hugh financial loss the loss of peope would be greater. >Get with-it and stop the Bull !!!< When it comes to questioning the accuracy and integrity of government pronouncements, giving consideration to information acquired from trusted sources like Mercola is not irresponsible. If I had posted something like this when the SARS scare was current, you might have responded to it the same way, yet it turns out you would have been wrong, as it turned out the government scare-mongering was media hype. Anytime I hear the government-medical-pharmaceutical-media complex making scary pronouncements, I look around for what they are NOT saying. Yes, what they are saying may be true, but too many times it is not. For me to post this article about a topic of current concern for other folks consideration was not irresponsible, Bob. It was what we do here. We discuss controversial ideas and compare notes, and we find out from each other things we did not know. Terry __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005
CS>Irresponsible post
Ole Bob said, >Terry you are irresponisible !! >China who would not acknowledge the presents if SARS several years ago has stated publicly that when the bird flu mutates to humans it is closing its borders. That would be a hugh financial loss the loss of peope would be greater. >Get with-it and stop the Bull !!!< When it comes to questioning the accuracy and integrity of government pronouncements, giving consideration to information acquired from trusted sources like Mercola is not irresponsible. If I had posted something like this when the SARS scare was current, you might have responded to it the same way, yet it turns out you would have been wrong, as it turned out the government scare-mongering was media hype. Anytime I hear the government-medical-pharmaceutical-media complex making scary pronouncements, I look around for what they are NOT saying. Yes, what they are saying may be true, but too many times it is not. For me to post this article about a topic of current concern for other folks consideration was not irresponsible, Bob. It was what we do here. We discuss controversial ideas and compare notes, and we find out from each other things we did not know. Terry __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS:> Tamiflu vaccine
In a message dated 11/1/2005 9:21:28 PM Central Standard Time, har...@telus.net writes: My wife and I were to our Dr. last week [I am in my 80s,she is 79] and we discussed this tamiflu vaccine.He said", It is a useless vaccine as the flu strain that is coming is not the one for which Tamiflu will do any good." He did not recommend it.He also said all this scare talk about a flu pandemic coming was mostly media hype.Consequently, we went away with out flu shots. Hello, Tamiflu is actually not a vaccine, and turns out it may have only mild anti-viral properties. It's thought that perhaps the way it works is to interfere with an enzymes that reduce the body's tendency for secondary bacterial infections, which usually are the reason for severe illness and not the virus itself. Here's a link to an article on a vet tech blogspot which discusses the use of Tamiflu for treatment of parvo illness in dogs. Pretty interesting, and it relates to any viral infection in any mammal, not just dogs & parvo. Laura H., TX http://vettechs.blogspot.com/2005/04/oseltamivir-is-there-new-treatment-for.ht ml
Re: CS>warm mist humidifier
Most ultrasonic humidifiers use ion exchange resin filters and will remove CS from the water. Get one that can be run without the filter and has a submerged vibrating plate. There's always the option of gutting the filter box if the box is needed to have the humidifier run. Reloin Ultrasonic from Wallyworld [$35] will do that. Vicks probably will Sunbeam probably will But I KNOW the Relion does. [I have one] Ode At 05:04 PM 11/1/2005 -0500, you wrote: I saw a Vick's Ultrasonic Humidifier on display at our local CVS. The mist output was great but it said on the box that the water filter removes minerals and eliminates "white dust" . Will the filter remove the silver? - Original Message - From: marmar...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Re: CS>warm mist humidifier In a message dated 11/1/05 12:46:39 PM Central Standard Time, res00...@gte.net writes: it has to be an "ULTRASONIC" humidifier Thanks. That was exactly what I had been forgetting. MA No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6 - Release Date: 10/31/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6 - Release Date: 10/31/2005
Re: CS>Bird flu a hoax
### What bothers me about this "scare" is that they'll say how many people died from the bird flu, but don't say how many survived it. search search... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1 H5N1 As of November 1, 2005, 122 cases of human infection, resulting in 62 deaths, have been confirmed outside of China (see Human cases). Thirteen countries across Asia and Europe have been affected. In August 2005, scientists said they had successfully tested in people a vaccine that they believe can protect against the strain of avian influenza that is spreading in birds through Asia and Russia [2]. Fatality rate: 50.8% What concerns health researchers now is that the virus mortality rate in Vietnam has dropped significantly lately, from more than 65% to about 35% in a year. Because the virus is more likely to survive along with the patients in this scenario, it means that the virus could infect a larger number of people, and possibly develop into a global pandemic with millions of deaths despite the lower reported percentage of deaths. For example, the mortality rate of 1918 Spanish flu (H1N1) pandemic was less than 5% [7] yet killed more people than World War I. ### Looks pretty bad. Poultry workers aren't generally the young and weak. Of course, if it does mutate into an easily transmitted strain, who's to say how survivable it will be then? ..could become known to history as "The Great Winged Death", or, "The Scarecrow Sneezes". Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6 - Release Date: 10/31/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Email formats, Eudora
www.eudora.com Some versions can be run in free mode. I like the old eudora pro 3.03. [It's simple] It was written for win 95 and won't load in ME now and then without a reboot, no 'big' deal. Email me for a copy. I also have archives of eudora pro 4 and 5 ..full 'paid' and free versions that I didn't like as much [Too complicated] The older programs are very hard to find. Crack sites have them sometimes...with serial mumbers Check out http://wso.williams.edu/~eudora/frame-faqs.html http://www.nation.org/download.htm http://helpnet.ut.cc.va.us/csc/FTP/FTPfilelist.htm http://www.rad.net.id/myradnet/downloadwin3.htm http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Email_Tools/Mail_Clients/Eudora_Light.html Ode At 12:12 PM 11/1/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Content-Disposition: inline > >i have looked all over the place---how do you get Eudora??? >How much does it cost > >Gladys > > > > >- Original Message - >From: Stuff >Date: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:06 pm >Subject: Re: CS>Email formats, Eudora > >> >> Ditto. >> >> stuff >> >> At 06:27 PM 10/31/2005, Wayne wrote: >> >> >Evening Sol, >> > >> > >> At 02:15 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote: >> >> I've tried Eudora but didn't like it. >> > >> >I can understand you may not have liked Eudora. >> >This is likely because you did not use it long enough. >> > >> >It does however solve the problem you mentioned, and virtually >> all >> >other email problems. >> > >> >Many power email users use Eudora. >> > >> >I have used it since Version 1 or 2. It is near the most bullet >> >proof program I have ever used. >> > >> >Wayne >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> > >> >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> > >> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >Silver List archive: >> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html> >> >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> > >> >List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >No virus found in this incoming message. >> >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> >Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: >> 10/28/2005 >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: >> 10/28/2005 >> >> > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: 10/31/2005 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6 - Release Date: 10/31/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6 - Release Date: 10/31/2005
Re: CS>warm mist humidifier
It has to be physically thrown out whole and unfiltered as a spray. Think about what it takes to get paint color into the air. A spray gun will work. Letting it evaporate in a bowl won't, no matter how fast you make it evaporate, by whatever means. An ultrasonic plate or a spray gun throws water droplets into the air along with whatever is in the water. Even then, if a filter is any 'good', all you get is the carrier. [water or other solvent] If you get an ultrasonic device, make sure you can run it without a filter and make sure the water has direct contact with the water in the reservoir. .. a word of caution: If you run pond water in it without the filters, you'll be breathing pond water. Ode At 11:34 AM 11/1/2005 EST, you wrote: In a message dated 10/27/05 8:11:27 AM Central Standard Time, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: Well, you can, but it won't leave the humidifier. What is it that needs to be done in order for the CS to be misted out?MA No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6 - Release Date: 10/31/2005 --===AVGMAIL-4368B90523D6=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-54E51E07 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6 - Release Date: 10/31/2005
CS>CS>Bird flu a hoax
Hello: The SARS virus could have been man made or nature made. Same thing for the Avain Flu. It is interesting to note that for the most part the 1918 flu seems to have spread from an army base somewhere in the USA and made its way around the world by troop movements. ???Intentional Military Involvement??? I don't know. But regardless of how it spread, it was deadly. SARS was real. The number dead were few but it was a disease that primarily hit health care workers and it hit them with a vengance. I cared for a young X-ray technician who was first contact from the person who came from China. All he did was take a chest xray of this fellow when he first came to the ER. Within a few days he was in isolation on our unit and I was caring for him. They started him on Ribavirin not knowing what else to do. Within a few days, his gums were starting to bleed from the medication. His O2 Sats were dropping and couldn't be maintained without high flow oxygen. He was spared a journey through ICU by the following. He got scared - asked his wife to bring in his bag of homeopathic remedies and I brought him in a gallon of colloidal silver. He started on these things and that was the day his health turned around. Four days later he was discharged from the hospital. Others were not so fortunate and had to spend several weeks in varying hospitals - 14 nurses from our unit contracted SARS. Some never returned to work again. Two nurses lost their babies. Two can not walk long distances without getting short of breath because of residual lung damage and there were some deaths. Colloidal Silver is a help but not a cure all but it did go a long way for my friend along with other measures of health. I took it on a daily basis and although my temp went up to 37.8 for a few days, I never got the symptoms and was spared but it wasn't from lack of contact with the disease. My co workers coughed and sneezed on me and before adequate isolation proceedures were developed over the course of 3-4 weeks, I was adequately exposed to the virus. I kept an ozone generator going in my home 24/7 during that period of quarantine to protect my family from me. How do we know AVAIN flu is real - because it is being planned for. The economic impact is being geared for. Whether it actually make the jump from human to human I would think would be immaterial. If it doesn't, when the time is right, they will release a lab engineered virus with the same impact. Did anyone ever note that the room number in the Hong Kong hotel where SARS came from was 911. Eleven people were in the elevator and it went down 9 floors. I still have the newspaper articles. The illuminati numbers are all over it. Yes, they can do it again whenever they want to. I suspect they could even release the 1918 flue over again now that they have it in a lab for study. Ian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bird flu a hoax
I too remember the "swine flu", another non-event. Your governments thrive on creating crisis and endless boogey-men. The American government has made it into an art form. Who would need them if there were none? Bottom line, we're all on our own...Katrina was a case in point. I'm happy to have plenty of CS on hand and the capability of making a lot more but I don't know what others remedy is for the Fools in Charge who are attempting to order the world in their image. I'm ignoring 'em in every way possible. stuff At 12:17 AM 11/2/2005, Michael wrote: V wrote: > Hi Robert, > > I think its more that the media and govrenment and medical system is irrisponsible. All flue that there ids is bird flu. this one is not any differnt. (snip) I'm old enough to remember "swine flu". Anyone else? Michael -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005
Re: CS>dermaseptic device
How can I find information on the "godzilla"? Thanks Lea Ann - Original Message - From: "V" To: "Rowena" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:34 PM Subject: Re: CS>dermaseptic device Hi Rowena, Yeah I have made simalar devices that plug into the godzilla. I call it a wartziller and it has a silver wire on the tip and you dip it in CS and then apply to the spots you want to infuse with silver. you want the tip to be positive becaues that is the side that gives off the silver when the current flows. IDt works for many warts also by infusing silver into the wart with a current. Take care, V How interesting. I wonder whether a couple of bits of silver at the end of wires in a Godzilla device would do something similar. And whether it would be effective in Spider Bites!! Users claim success with mosquito and ant bites, and using it for any infection. Rowena Anyone use this device from the Klearson Co in Boulder? www.dermaseptic.com Lots of claims backed up with dbl blind studies. Found the ad in a flight magazine. TJ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
