Re: CS>Saving Email ( More Ways than one )
Thanks, pat. I thought what you describe was just my computersame thing happening here. Pat wrote: Forgot to mention, Yahoo email IS very slow to retrieve most of the time. This is with DSL. I often have to go back to the list of emails if it's having problems just going on to the next one. Plus, if you want to reply, and you're in the middle of writing the email and want to check a name or part of the message you're replying to, you have to save the draft, then go to the inbox and read that email, then go back to the draft. Really clunky. It is really frustrating. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. "V" - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: CS>CS effectiveness
Terry,
Who are you quoting here? and is there more of this article?
Thanks,
Dan
Terry Chamberlin wrote:
The statement was made:
It also stated that CS needs to be at least 250ppm to
show effectiveness in order to disable a pathogen's
(prokaryotic) oxygen-metabolic enzymes. {500ppm is
best?}<
Such a statement is irresponsible at best and
deliberately deceptive at worst.
Please notice:
"An extensive review of the scientific literature on
the subject of the efficacy of Colloidal Silver has
established some succinct facts:
"In a study sponsored by the Department of Heath and
Human Services (U.S.), Rocky Mountain Laboratories &
Fox Chase Cancer Center, respectively, in 1995,
colloidal silver in a concentration of 15 PPM
demonstrated that no live spirochetes of borrellia
burgdorferi (B310 or b hermsti (HS-1) (Lyme disease)
survived after 24 hours of exposure, in the Rocky
Mountain Labs study.
"Furthermore, "Preliminary studies on colloidal silver
show it to be effective in inhibiting and killing
strains of Candida albicans and Cryptococcus
neoformans in-vitro. Four strains of C. Neoformans
were tested and they were killed by the preparation.
The growth of these strains were inhibited at a
concentration as low as 0.3 PPM." (That's 1/3 of 1
ppm, folks.)
"Colloidal Silver has been tested by Brigham Young
University's microbiology laboratory (1999). In
conclusion of the first round of testing, Ron W.
Leavitt Ph.D & David A. Revelli (microbiologist)
stated, "[Colloidal Silver].. is a broad spectrum
antimicrobial agent -- it is able to effectively stop
the growth of (and in fact kill) a large variety of
organisms". (They tested sixteen varieties, including
every kind of E. Coli.) The report also states, "To
date there are no bacteria tested that this product
has not killed". It was found that 2 ½ ppm immobilized
the bacterium, and 5 ppm killed it.
"At the University of California at Davis, Colloidal
Silver was able to inhibit the ability of yeasts to
grow. Said Jason Henrie, microbiologist, "It is
evident that a single 10 ppm application could prevent
the further growth of a small population of yeast for
24 hours, allowing one's immune system time to
respond. Even more, multiple 10 ppm applications
could conceivably prevent the growth of yeast
indefinitely."
"When the UCLA School of Medicine tested a range of
viruses (including HIV) in 1989, it has been reported
that they found colloidal silver at a concentration of
5 ppm killed every virus it came into contact with
within six minutes."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/3/prweb34782.php
Also:
"NVID International Inc. (Pink Sheets: NVID) announced
Monday the final results of a research project focused
on the effectiveness of Axenohl in a municipal
drinking water system in Costa Rica, featuring NVID's
ionic silver-based microbial technology. Prior to
testing, the Grecia water supply was contaminated with
coliform bacteria and was not potable. After treatment
with 78 parts-per-billion (PPB) of Axenohl
concentrate, the fecal coliforms went from greater
than 200 CFU/100ml to zero in a period of 10 days. No
other disinfectants or chemicals (including chlorine)
were used in conjunction with Axenohl during the
testing period. All water samples taken downstream had
less than 50 PPB Axenohl, which falls within the
current EPA and European water treatment guidelines
for the presence of silver. Additionally, Axenohl
proved to control and reduce the presence and growth
of biofilm in the piping distribution network."
http://www.waterandwastewater.com/www_services/newsletter/january_8_2001.htm
Terry Chamberlin
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Re: CS>Saving Email ( More Ways than one )
Forgot to mention, Yahoo email IS very slow to retrieve most of the time. This is with DSL. I often have to go back to the list of emails if it's having problems just going on to the next one. Plus, if you want to reply, and you're in the middle of writing the email and want to check a name or part of the message you're replying to, you have to save the draft, then go to the inbox and read that email, then go back to the draft. Really clunky. It is really frustrating. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Saving Email ( More Ways than one )
Yes, Eudora is much, much better. Yahoo is really minimal. I'd started doing the silver list in Eudora, but I leave it on all the time and it notifies me with sounds that I've gotten email. I don't get a lot of personal email, so when I hear it, I go check. It would be making noise all day if I got message board emails there...unless...I never thought of it, but maybe there's a way to only get notifications from one box or another? My computer nerd daughter and also my husband say the new Eudora is not nearly as good as my version (5.2.1). Wayne, you said you could email me the whole silver list you have saved? Would it be hard for you to do? I'd love, love, love to have it all. I'm p...@front242.net Thanks, Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Face to face with argyria...
Mike I agree whole heartily with your position. as well as your efforts to correct the problem, which I would like to hear more of. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Face to face with argyria... Dear group, In another thread David wrote: > Don't assume that someone who looks grey has been taking colloidal > silver. It's more likely to be caused by heart medication. I will be interested to see how prevalent use and abuse of that heart medication will become, versus the relative frequency of argyria in the next few years. The reason for my remark is a case of argyria I've encountered: I recently met a mature couple (in their late fifties or sixties, I believe) who both developed argyria over the last few years. He has classic generalized pigmentation quite reminiscent of Rosemary Jacobs, and she has less intense coloration, except for a mask-like area around her mouth and chin which is darker. What makes their case of special importance to us is the way in which they acquired their condition: In the run-up to Y2K they began making and drinking CS using the primitive "three 9V batteries and salt" recipe which was widely disseminated on Y2K web sites and discussion forums at that time. Unlike Stan Jones or other recent cases, they followed the instructions exactly. They didn't over-cook it or drink a glass of muddy sludge every day, but made exactly what the promoters of that recipe intended for them to make. While other factors, such as a deficiency in selenium or vitamin E or the use of caffeine, may have increased their vulnerability to argyria, the only real mistake they made was they followed those instructions and drank a glass per day for a long enough time -- and turned blue. So, as stunning as it is to confront a genuine case of argyria in the flesh, the real message is that the old "pinch of salt" recipe is now well *proven* to be capable of producing generalized argyria, AND there may be a lot more cases developing in the aftermath of the Y2K phenomenon, just like these folks' did. This is the reason for some of my recent comments urging us to treat every new argyria report with complete seriousness and an absolute absence of defensiveness. Although we as a group abandoned the "pinch of salt" idea in favor of pure silver in water at low concentrations much earlier than the rest of the alternative health community, other people are *still* promoting that primitive process to this day. As I see it our task is four-fold: * Continue our efforts to promote low concentration silver preparations made with fine silver and pure water only. * Advocate the concurrent use of low-dose selenium and vitamin E in conjunction with *any* silver preparation. * Study and further develop the already successful argyria treatment protocol to maximize safety while retaining effectiveness in reversing the condition. * Provide that information to everyone who seeks it, taking the lead in helping argyria victims treat themselves. I was able to explain to this couple what happened. Until I did, they didn't know it was the silver that turned them blue. I also mentioned the successes we've seen in reversing it, and I will do what I can to help them in the months ahead, if they are willing. So, as for David's observation, although the pharmaceutical companies have now produced a heart medicine that might turn people blue, I'm afraid the number of legitimate argyria cases which will emerge in the next few years may not leave us much to sing about. Please, tell me what you think? If you'd like to add to, correct, or endorse my thinking, send your comments along to the list. Discussion would be helpful. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Face to face with argyria...
Dear group, In another thread David wrote: > Don't assume that someone who looks grey has been taking colloidal > silver. It's more likely to be caused by heart medication. I will be interested to see how prevalent use and abuse of that heart medication will become, versus the relative frequency of argyria in the next few years. The reason for my remark is a case of argyria I've encountered: I recently met a mature couple (in their late fifties or sixties, I believe) who both developed argyria over the last few years. He has classic generalized pigmentation quite reminiscent of Rosemary Jacobs, and she has less intense coloration, except for a mask-like area around her mouth and chin which is darker. What makes their case of special importance to us is the way in which they acquired their condition: In the run-up to Y2K they began making and drinking CS using the primitive "three 9V batteries and salt" recipe which was widely disseminated on Y2K web sites and discussion forums at that time. Unlike Stan Jones or other recent cases, they followed the instructions exactly. They didn't over-cook it or drink a glass of muddy sludge every day, but made exactly what the promoters of that recipe intended for them to make. While other factors, such as a deficiency in selenium or vitamin E or the use of caffeine, may have increased their vulnerability to argyria, the only real mistake they made was they followed those instructions and drank a glass per day for a long enough time -- and turned blue. So, as stunning as it is to confront a genuine case of argyria in the flesh, the real message is that the old "pinch of salt" recipe is now well *proven* to be capable of producing generalized argyria, AND there may be a lot more cases developing in the aftermath of the Y2K phenomenon, just like these folks' did. This is the reason for some of my recent comments urging us to treat every new argyria report with complete seriousness and an absolute absence of defensiveness. Although we as a group abandoned the "pinch of salt" idea in favor of pure silver in water at low concentrations much earlier than the rest of the alternative health community, other people are *still* promoting that primitive process to this day. As I see it our task is four-fold: * Continue our efforts to promote low concentration silver preparations made with fine silver and pure water only. * Advocate the concurrent use of low-dose selenium and vitamin E in conjunction with *any* silver preparation. * Study and further develop the already successful argyria treatment protocol to maximize safety while retaining effectiveness in reversing the condition. * Provide that information to everyone who seeks it, taking the lead in helping argyria victims treat themselves. I was able to explain to this couple what happened. Until I did, they didn't know it was the silver that turned them blue. I also mentioned the successes we've seen in reversing it, and I will do what I can to help them in the months ahead, if they are willing. So, as for David's observation, although the pharmaceutical companies have now produced a heart medicine that might turn people blue, I'm afraid the number of legitimate argyria cases which will emerge in the next few years may not leave us much to sing about. Please, tell me what you think? If you'd like to add to, correct, or endorse my thinking, send your comments along to the list. Discussion would be helpful. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS effectiveness
The statement was made:
>It also stated that CS needs to be at least 250ppm to
show effectiveness in order to disable a pathogen's
(prokaryotic) oxygen-metabolic enzymes. {500ppm is
best?}<
Such a statement is irresponsible at best and
deliberately deceptive at worst.
Please notice:
"An extensive review of the scientific literature on
the subject of the efficacy of Colloidal Silver has
established some succinct facts:
"In a study sponsored by the Department of Heath and
Human Services (U.S.), Rocky Mountain Laboratories &
Fox Chase Cancer Center, respectively, in 1995,
colloidal silver in a concentration of 15 PPM
demonstrated that no live spirochetes of borrellia
burgdorferi (B310 or b hermsti (HS-1) (Lyme disease)
survived after 24 hours of exposure, in the Rocky
Mountain Labs study.
"Furthermore, "Preliminary studies on colloidal silver
show it to be effective in inhibiting and killing
strains of Candida albicans and Cryptococcus
neoformans in-vitro. Four strains of C. Neoformans
were tested and they were killed by the preparation.
The growth of these strains were inhibited at a
concentration as low as 0.3 PPM." (That's 1/3 of 1
ppm, folks.)
"Colloidal Silver has been tested by Brigham Young
University's microbiology laboratory (1999). In
conclusion of the first round of testing, Ron W.
Leavitt Ph.D & David A. Revelli (microbiologist)
stated, "[Colloidal Silver].. is a broad spectrum
antimicrobial agent -- it is able to effectively stop
the growth of (and in fact kill) a large variety of
organisms". (They tested sixteen varieties, including
every kind of E. Coli.) The report also states, "To
date there are no bacteria tested that this product
has not killed". It was found that 2 ½ ppm immobilized
the bacterium, and 5 ppm killed it.
"At the University of California at Davis, Colloidal
Silver was able to inhibit the ability of yeasts to
grow. Said Jason Henrie, microbiologist, "It is
evident that a single 10 ppm application could prevent
the further growth of a small population of yeast for
24 hours, allowing one's immune system time to
respond. Even more, multiple 10 ppm applications
could conceivably prevent the growth of yeast
indefinitely."
"When the UCLA School of Medicine tested a range of
viruses (including HIV) in 1989, it has been reported
that they found colloidal silver at a concentration of
5 ppm killed every virus it came into contact with
within six minutes."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/3/prweb34782.php
Also:
"NVID International Inc. (Pink Sheets: NVID) announced
Monday the final results of a research project focused
on the effectiveness of Axenohl in a municipal
drinking water system in Costa Rica, featuring NVID's
ionic silver-based microbial technology. Prior to
testing, the Grecia water supply was contaminated with
coliform bacteria and was not potable. After treatment
with 78 parts-per-billion (PPB) of Axenohl
concentrate, the fecal coliforms went from greater
than 200 CFU/100ml to zero in a period of 10 days. No
other disinfectants or chemicals (including chlorine)
were used in conjunction with Axenohl during the
testing period. All water samples taken downstream had
less than 50 PPB Axenohl, which falls within the
current EPA and European water treatment guidelines
for the presence of silver. Additionally, Axenohl
proved to control and reduce the presence and growth
of biofilm in the piping distribution network."
http://www.waterandwastewater.com/www_services/newsletter/january_8_2001.htm
Terry Chamberlin
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Re: CS>Argyria 2
The MHVAC unit isn't 10 kil-u-volts. CS Pro used to sell an arc cone unit years ago that may have been 10kvdiscontinued. [Too deadly and hard to use properly to sell?] The MHVAC output spec isn't published and "Pulse Phasic, Uni Phase and Bi Phasic" isn't defined, so I'll assume that Joe did put instruments on it and discovered half wave rectification of the mains at 170 volts peak. [Oscilloscope] Got one?Open the box and tell us what you see in there. Take a pic. Ode At 10:55 AM 8/11/2006 -0400, you wrote: The CS Pro uses 10,000 volts AC. What silver puppy uses HVAC for its production? I would not recommend putting any instruments on the output, 10,000 volts will blow up the insturments, could start a fire, and could injure or kill the operator. Marshall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/416 - Release Date: 8/10/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Grey skin caused by heart medication.
Don't assume that someone who looks grey has been taking colloidal silver. It's more likely to be caused by heart medication. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=heart+medication%2C+side+effects%2C+blue+discoloration http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/amiodarone_ad.htm "Dermatological adverse reactions occur in about 15% of patients, with photosensitivity being most common (about 10%). Sunscreen and protection from sun exposure may be helpful, and drug discontinuation is not usually necessary. Prolonged exposure to Cordarone occasionally results in a blue-gray pigmentation. This is slowly and occasionally incompletely reversible on discontinuation of drug but is of cosmetic importance only." David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Source of the 500 PPM CS
Morning Jim, >>At 11:52 AM 8/11/2006, you wrote: i owe you an apology for goin off half-cocked. reread your post and it was my mis-understanding. you are a helpful dude.jim Thanks, but no problem. I felt I did not make my message clear enough the way I worded it. I am anxiously awaiting for the information from that website. If it turns out there are any untrue statements, we need to bombard it with messages. If I can get a voice phone, I will call them. I am suspect of that complete website. Many things are overpriced. 4 ounces of Emu oil is $ 28.00. A friend of mine produces it and sells it for $ 35.00 per pint. The 500 ppm Silver is $ 500.00 per gallon. Will keep you posted. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
