CS>CS Nebulizer Bronchitis

2007-11-24 Thread Ian Davies
Morning Wayne,

I decided to adapt the suggestions for using a zapper, ie three sessions
(plus one for the road). I reckoned similar rules might apply; I didn't know
what a nebulizer was until recently so I had no idea how to use one. I hold
each inhalation in for about 5 seconds.

I would have checked the archives for previous messages but I have never
been able to do so. I get a blank page when I click on the link on the
silver-list home page. Any help in getting access to those messages would be
most appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Ian

>

Evening Ian,

I read all your message, twice.

At 07:34 AM 11/23/2007, you wrote:

Very interesting indeed.

>I took 20 inhilations every 20 minutes for an hour and did the same

>after

>4 and then 8 hours. I am now doing it morning and night but only 10

>inhilations.

I find it interesting how you are doing the timing and intervals.

I simply go by the stop watch.

How long to you hold each inhalation before exhaling ?

I have found the nebulizer very effective also. I use 10% DMSO.

Some may use less and some may use more.

I have searched the list archives and found several interesting messages on
nebulizing but most do not mention the exact time intervals.

I did as you did, experiment to see the effect. I usually do

2 to 5 minutes.

One message stated that Nebulizing CS was almost as good as

IV CS. That got my attention.

Wayne


Re: CS>Plastic or Glass bottles

2007-11-24 Thread Jodi
--On 9 November 2007 08:51:52 +1300 David Angland  
wrote:

I have a SilverPuppy generator, and I'm wondering whether PET plastic
bottles are OK or not to store my CS.
According to the instructions that came with it, it says PET plastic
bottles are OK.



Don't use glass.  Use the plastic soda bottles.   I have a Silver Puppy 
too.  Ode, who makes our generator, recommends using a common plastic 
soda bottle, with the type of plastic used to bottle a 2 liter 
Coke/Pepsi/Sprite in the U.S.   Also, there was a study done that showed 
that with glass, your batch ends up being weaker because the silver 
plates out onto it over time   Just found it.  I saved it onto my 
hard drive.   Here it is: 


___


Silver in Glass vs. Plastic Containers

January 1, 2004

Introduction
A great deal of controversy has arisen in the market
place on the question of whether it is better to store
silver solutions in glass versus plastic containers.
There is a misconception that has prevailed in the
market place that glass is better.  The idea that
glass containers are better for storing products that
contain silver has never been proven scientifically.
But in fact, it has been reported in other studies
that glass may have a detrimental effect on silver
products. 


Test Work
I have been conducting biological studies for 3 years,
in the laboratory of a major private institution, on
the use of silver products to kill and inhibit the
growth of bacteria.  I have conducted thousands of
tests on numerous strains of pathogenic bacteria. In
the testing I have completed, I have used both glass
(5 ml glass test tubes) and plastic (Falcon 5 ml
polypropylene plastic test tubes). In some of the test
work we found that there was a difference in the
amount of silver that was needed to kill the bacteria
when glass was used versus plastic test tubes. In
order to make sure this was the case, it was decided
that the MIC tests (Minimum Inhibitory Concentration)
should be replicated by more than one person and a
direct comparison was made. The MIC tests were
performed in triplicate in both 5 ml 13X100mm glass
test tubes and 5 ml Falcon polypropylene plastic test
tubes.  Results of the bacterial (MIC) tests showed
that Staphylococcus aureus was inhibited at 2.5 ppm
when the MIC test was performed in the plastic test
tubes.  S. aureus was inhibited at 5 ppm when the MIC
test was performed in glass test tubes. This suggested
that the material with which the test tubes were made,
specifically glass or plastic, may have effected the
results of the MIC test. Numerous other tests were
also completed using larger concentrations of
bacterium and in those tests it was found that there
was no significant difference at all between using the
glass test tubes versus plastic test tubes.

Other Studies
The studies that I performed are not the only tests
showing that glass, in some circumstances, may have a
detrimental effect on silver products. It has been
noted in another independent study that has been cited
by other researchers that silver can adsorb to glass
(Chambers 1960; Thurman 1989). With this in mind, it
may have been possible that the silver could have
adsorbed to the surface of the glass test tubes
reducing the concentration of available silver
interacting with the bacteria, which resulted in
having to use a higher amount of silver to kill the
bacteria when the glass test tubes were used.

Conclusion
In the test work I have completed as well as in other
available studies, it was found that glass may, in
some cases, have a detrimental effect on silver
products. While it can be said that glass did not
always show the detrimental effect, it can also be
stated that we found no problems at all with using the
plastic instead of glass. Our tests, in conclusion
with the other available independent studies (1.
Chambers et al. and 2. Thurman et al.), would suggest,
by inference, that silver products should not be
stored in glass containers which could reduce the
available concentration of silver, but rather in a
high quality plastic container.

Respectively,

David A. Revelli, MS

References:

1. Chambers, C. a. C. P. (1960). The Bacteriological
and Chemical Behavior of Silver in Low Concentration.
Cincinnati, OH, Division of Water Supply and Pollution
Control, U.S. Department of Health, Education, and
Welfare.

2. Thurman, R. a. C. G. (1989). "The Molecular
Mechanisms of Copper and Silver Ion Disinfection of
Bacteria and Viruses." CRC Critical Reviews in
Environmental Control 18(4): 295-314.

This article found at:
http://www.asapsolution.com/testresults.html


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CS>Vaccines+Population Control

2007-11-24 Thread Kurt Milkowski
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james.htm

Re: CS>Plastic or Glass bottles

2007-11-24 Thread John Plumridge



--On 9 November 2007 08:51:52 +1300 David Angland  
wrote:



I have a SilverPuppy generator, and I'm wondering whether PET plastic
bottles are OK or not to store my CS.
According to the instructions that came with it, it says PET plastic
bottles are OK.



PET plastic containers are preferred plastic in the cosmetics and food 
container industry.They were developed to overcome the shortcomings of 
previous plastics. However, there is evidence to suggest these are not 
inert, either. The problem is , it depends on the direction of the 
research. Moreover it depends upon the state of the compounds in them. 
Extremely complex in the case of cosmetic formulations, less so in water.


Glass is always preferable, because it is largely inert, simple, cheap, and 
effective as a barrier. It is completely recyclable.


JOhn

JOhn


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RE: CS>LEDs & arthritis

2007-11-24 Thread bob Larson
for some reason V doesn't have direct linking to the godzill page from the
rest of the LED pages.  from the LED area you'd never know it's there.  now
i see it's over on a completely different domain/website.  wouldn't show up
in google either weird, it used to i think.

http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/index.html


> -Original Message-
> From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:13 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>LEDs & arthritis
>
>
> Hi S-Max,
> I went to the site but I did not see what you called a Gozilla? The lights
> look very interesting. I am not sure what product you are using. I would
> like to know more.
> Thanks,
> Paula
> - Original Message -
> From: "S-Max" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:33 PM
> Subject: CS>LEDs & arthritis
>
>
> > Visit Vzon's site for an array of healing LED's. V has been around for
> years
> > and is on many yahoo lists. Absolutely trustworthy and very
> credible. You
> > don't have to worry about his products.
> >
> > He also sells blood electrification equipment known as the
> Gozilla. I use
> > mine all of the time. I love it, and swear by it for killing
> pathogens and
> > for reducing and eliminating pain as I use it like a TENS unit.
> >
> > You can find his products at the following link. Thought you
> would like to
> > know.
> > http://www.theledman.net/
> >
> > S-Max
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: Clayton Family
> > Date: 11/21/2007 2:24:37 PM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS> LEDs & arthritis: COMMENT
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification. This makes me think of my grandma using
> > infrared for her arthritic hands, so she could quilt. I am looking up
> > the LED s. --Kathryn
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>CS nebulizer bronchitis

2007-11-24 Thread Richard
many thanks for the link .. Ian. If it gets here from Barcelona ( to  
Ibiza ) in 24 hrs I will be amazed ! Richard

On 24/11/2007, at 7:17, Ian Davies wrote:


Ian , what brand nebuliser did you buy and was it euro voltage ?
Great testimonial - thanks - Richard - in Spain -.

>

It's an "Ardes", EU voltage, the supplier is in Barcelona. You'll  
find it here:
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItem&item=320165645536&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:ES:11


If the link doesn't work, go to e-bay and search "Nebulizador"

Ian in Spain.




Re: CS>Re: CS and Sub-mandibular stone

2007-11-24 Thread Dee
Thanks for the inf S-Max, but it seems to be ok now.  I will keep this in
mind though for if it happens again.  Regards Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: S-Max
Date: 23/11/2007 23:11:32
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: CS and Sub-mandibular stone
 
Dee,
Google Sub-mandibular stone. There is a lot of information there, but none
that I can find that is alternative.
 
If it is a stone in the salivary gland, you can try pushing up on the
underside of the roof of your jaw when it swells up. Sometimes that will
push it out, and sometimes not if it is too large to come out through the
little salivary gland hole. Then you might have to consider going to the
dental surgeon to have him help remove it. If it dislodges by itself, you
won't experience the problem again.
 
---Original Message---
 

CS>Vaccines Killing Soldiers-Mercola

2007-11-24 Thread Kurt Milkowski
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/11/24/vaccines-threaten-up-to-44-000-u-s-soldiers.aspx

Re: Re[2]: CS>Alzheimer's disease

2007-11-24 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Perhaps I should get over there. 
   
  Kurt

Hanneke  wrote:
  My response to your post I sent to Off-topic silverlist.

H.


At 08:27 AM 24/11/2007, you wrote:
>For me it started in my late 30's. Sounds like you're from Great 
>Britain? If so were you and your family members vaccinated? Lyme is 
>really a VID, or vaccine induced disease. The really fun part is 
>that it gets passed down from genarations and then you get stabbed 
>with more needles adding insult to injury. I'll get a copy of that 
>study to you.
>


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