Re: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[leslie1053]

Ha Ha! Yes Faith; guess I have had that love distiller also.
- Original Message - 
From: "bob Larson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:37 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)



...my ex-girlfriend.  heated me all up, kept it all and spit what was left
of me out into space as a cloud of mist with no substance of worth left.
love makes fools of us all, says willie.


-Original Message-
From: faith gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)


Hi Bob.  What is a love distiller?  Is it the same distiller that Leslie
recommended?  Thanks.  Faith G.


- Original Message -
From: "Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: FW: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


I have a one of these love distillers. I like it and use it a lot.
Only thing I found is I get better Quality if I only fill it up with 3
quarts instead of 4.
I think when I fill it up the level is too close to the condenser unit
on top and some minerals get through.
I clean it with Vinegar and also just periodically let it boil for a
while, pull plug let it cool and pour out water.
This helps keep minerals from building up so bad in bottom boiler.

Bob



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Re: CS>Sciatica, coconut oil

[Tad Winiecki]

Coconut oil is the most stable oil, I've read, and keeps 2-3 years.  
Your bottle may say.  I lost mine in boxes and found it after a year or 
more and am using it.  It tastes fine.


Nancy

On Jan 31, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Dianne France wrote:

How and how much do you take of it.  I have some that I bought but it 
may be getting old.  I don't know the shelf life.  I might need to 
order more.  I was giving it to our two dogs in their feed to help 
their skin but one kept getting diarrhea from it.

 
Dianne


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Re: CS>Sciatica, coconut oil

[Dianne France]

How and how much do you take of it.  I have some that I bought but it may be 
getting old.  I don't know the shelf life.  I might need to order more.  I was 
giving it to our two dogs in their feed to help their skin but one kept getting 
diarrhea from it.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: ransley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:39 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>Sciatica, coconut oil


  >Or you could think about coconut oil with its myristic acid.<

  Coconut oil is one of many things that help with many arthritic problems.
  When I get stiff, one of the things I have to keep coming back to is coconut
  oil.

  Daddybob

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RE: CS>Sciatica, coconut oil

[ransley]

 >Or you could think about coconut oil with its myristic acid.<

Coconut oil is one of many things that help with many arthritic problems.
When I get stiff, one of the things I have to keep coming back to is coconut
oil.

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Re: CS>best tick repellent

[Sandee George]

Thanks for this one - I am going to give it a whirl
REgards
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RE: CS>best tick repellent

[miss...@prodigy.net.mx]

We live in a rural area with adjacent fields where bulls, cows, horses,
goats, etc. are frequent.  The ticks are terrible, and our pets suffer.  Is
there any sort of practical non-toxic substance we could spray our yard
with before the invasion?  (Tobacco juice is not an option.)

Original Message:
-
From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:20:36 -0600
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>best tick repellent


Tobacco juice.
 
Dan




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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>best tick repellent


I'd like to know the best repellent for traveling for the
children. Presently, I use Neem, anything better?



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Re: CS>best tick repellent

[bbanever]

Dan,

Tobacco juice might work, but if I'm not mistaken it is highly carcinogenic 
even when applied topically.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Nave 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:20 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>best tick repellent


  Tobacco juice.

  Dan




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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>best tick repellent


I'd like to know the best repellent for traveling for the children. 
Presently, I use Neem, anything better?



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Re: CS>Other colloidal metals

[Clayton Family]

Thanks for the info.  Quite a number of years ago, there used to be 
zinc lids for canning jars. They stopped making them though, when it 
became apparent that some people were being poisoned by them.  I have a 
few I got from one of the neighbor's garage sales years ago, and she 
gave me the low down on it. I use them as lids for herb jars, which I 
do not use daily.  Since I have done that, I have not needed to take 
zinc to get rid of those pesky white spots on my nails, which can be 
one symptom of zinc deficiency. It seems like I need a little more zinc 
than I was getting from my diet.


Do you know the symptoms for too much zinc?  My son has gotten into 
metalworking in various forms- first making chain mail from galvanized 
wire (zinc), then blacksmithing in good weather, now he is in his 2nd 
year at the watchmaking school, where I think they tool their own metal 
tools, among other things. He loves metal.


Kathryn

On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:00 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:




  Copper and Zinc kills germs etc but can be quite toxic as there are 
trace minerals used by the body, which, if go too far out of balance 
can result in some very serious problems.  The cool thing about silver 
 [Despite claims that it is a missing "nutrient" ]  is that it has no 
biological niche to overload to make it toxic and is still delivered 
and removed by the same mechanisms that regulate those metals that do.


I have been unable to make colloidal copper that has any lasting ionic 
form and it has oxidized in a matter of weeks to form a green grey 
deposit on the bottom of storage containers. Copper toxicity is rare 
even though copper is everywhere, sometimes in fairly high 
concentrations.  A normal system regulates it quite well.
 Those few who don't have normal systems have a really hard time 
avoiding it...and must.  Confusion, numbness, loss of motor control 
etc could be a copper overload.


I have been unable to make colloidal zinc at all, so far.  Zinc 
poisoning is well known amongst welders, but I've sucked down more 
than a few lung fulls of the vapors and ain't dead yet.


Ode


At 09:01 PM 1/30/2008 +0100, you wrote:

Could anyone point me in the direction of reliable information about 
other colloidal metals, gold, copper, zinc? Is it the ionic part in 
them that is more effective than the colloidial part? Are there known 
side effects? Turning green rather than blue for example? I have no 
signs of turning blue and I have been taking "cs" for a few years and 
on occasion more than a litre a day of home made with distilled water 
and nothing else added except a little "cs" to start the process 
10ppm (silvergen).
Personally I have tried colloidal gold in very small doses and I most 
certainly felt some benefit, but that could have been me thinking 
about how much it cost and willing it to have some positive effect 
:-) ( I am Scottish after all).
If anyone knows of a good supplier at reasonable prices, would you be 
so kind as to e-mail me privately,

blackyme...@gmail.com

Thank you

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RE: CS>best tick repellent

[Dan Nave]

Tobacco juice.
 
Dan




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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>best tick repellent


I'd like to know the best repellent for traveling for the
children. Presently, I use Neem, anything better?



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RE: CS>A health question

[Dan Nave]

Fine silver is much softer than sterling silver.  It is mostly used for
such things as bezels for mounting stones, etc, where the silver needs
to be formed around the stone to hold it, etc.  It is softer and
therefore more malleable.  Probably it wears out too fast if the whole
piece is made out of fine silver.  Also, there is the cost factor.

Dan

> -Original Message-
> From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:35 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>A health question
> 
> Of course you're right, pure silver would be better for being 
> non-toxic, but for jewelry is it ever used?  I don't think 
> I've ever seen a label stating pure silver on jewelry.  If 
> that was what was meant that would be great!  Is it too soft 
> for jewelry?  Or just expensive.
> 
> Nancy
> 
> On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> > Tad Winiecki wrote:
> >> What's wrong with using sterling silver?
> > It has metals in it other than silver, such as copper, 
> which may cause 
> > a reaction for people.
> >>   Many people react to the other metals in regular silver.
> > What is regular silver? Sterling? If so, you answered your own 
> > question. If you mean fine, then there are no other metals 
> in it (in 
> > any significance).
> >> I wouldn't buy it myself.
> >
> > Buy what? Sterling, or fine?  You use fine for making CS.


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CS>It seems like yesterday...

[M. G. Devour]

> Ode; you have been a respected member of this list for many years. 
> Care to tell us how many?

Ken wrote:
>Mike D will have to tell you that.
> 
>   I barely know what decade it is.
> Time is irrelevant...till it gets dark.

The first post by the person identifying themselves as "coyote" and 
signed KD'C, was Monday, 3rd April, 2000.

I'm surprised you don't predate me, Ken. It seems like you've always 
been here. 

Be well!

Mike D.

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Re: CS>Outrageous MSP Website (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ode Coyote]

  I think that was the Utopiasilver guy, Bill F...just couldn't stop 
"selling"

..not that his are "bad products" per se.

Invive has been hashed around a lot but I don't think that Nowell was ever 
on the lists.

ode


At 09:23 PM 1/30/2008 -0700, you wrote:


Invive, huh. Is that guy STILL around??

We had a wild go round with him on this Silverlist many years ago, (must 
have been 1996 or 7,) until Mike finally tossed him off the list!!

Goes to show that I AM an oldie on this list!!
Been using CS for 12 years come May, make my own, and am still pink as a 
piggy.

Fat as one too, sigh...  : )
Marshalee (back then I was in Kenosha, WI; now in Provo, UT




I had taken far less than they are talking about and experienced problems 
with nails on fingers and complexion
getting darker. I hate to see people taking this much and having problems. 
I still am a firm believer in CS I

just take less and at a lower strength (below 5 PPM usually).
Bob

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From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Outrageous MSP Website

it is pretty outrageous- an good example of buyer beware.

On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:02 PM, S&JY wrote:

> All,
>
> I just viewed this most outrageous 
website:  http://www.invive.com/

> which promotes Mild Silver Protein in the hundreds to thousands of ppm
> strengths as the only effective silver product for treating diseases.
> What especially irked me was their attack and blanket branding of
> those that sell EIS products in the 5 to 20 ppm range as liars who
> sell worthless products, etc.
>
> For the benefit of new list members, it would be good if some of you
> would refute their many hyped claims about high ppm MSP and reinforce
> the facts that our EIS product made with distilled water and 0.999
> pure silver electrodes is indeed safe and effective, contrary to what
> Invive states.  And could someone explain why the FDA has not shut
> them down like they have some other CS websites?
>
> Steve Y.






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Re: CS>Other colloidal metals

[Ode Coyote]

  Copper and Zinc kills germs etc but can be quite toxic as there are 
trace minerals used by the body, which, if go too far out of balance can 
result in some very serious problems.
 The cool thing about silver  [Despite claims that it is a missing 
"nutrient" ]  is that it has no biological niche to overload to make it 
toxic and is still delivered and removed by the same mechanisms that 
regulate those metals that do.


I have been unable to make colloidal copper that has any lasting ionic form 
and it has oxidized in a matter of weeks to form a green grey deposit on 
the bottom of storage containers. Copper toxicity is rare even though 
copper is everywhere, sometimes in fairly high concentrations.  A normal 
system regulates it quite well.
 Those few who don't have normal systems have a really hard time avoiding 
it...and must.  Confusion, numbness, loss of motor control etc could be a 
copper overload.


I have been unable to make colloidal zinc at all, so far.  Zinc poisoning 
is well known amongst welders, but I've sucked down more than a few lung 
fulls of the vapors and ain't dead yet.


Ode


At 09:01 PM 1/30/2008 +0100, you wrote:

Could anyone point me in the direction of reliable information about other 
colloidal metals, gold, copper, zinc? Is it the ionic part in them that is 
more effective than the colloidial part? Are there known side effects? 
Turning green rather than blue for example? I have no signs of turning 
blue and I have been taking "cs" for a few years and on occasion more than 
a litre a day of home made with distilled water and nothing else added 
except a little "cs" to start the process 10ppm (silvergen).
Personally I have tried colloidal gold in very small doses and I most 
certainly felt some benefit, but that could have been me thinking about 
how much it cost and willing it to have some positive effect :-) ( I am 
Scottish after all).
If anyone knows of a good supplier at reasonable prices, would you be so 
kind as to e-mail me privately,

blackyme...@gmail.com

Thank you

Ian in Spain.


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Re: CS>Outrageous MSP Website

[Ode Coyote]

Invive is indeed an outrageous website...but it's in Canada out of reach 
of American enforcement.


advan...@escape.ca
 The owner has "escaped"???  LOL

www.invive.com
www.silverproteinmild.com
 www.colloidalsilverusa.com

   Registrant:
   Advantage
   1825 Main Street
   Winnipeg,
   CA
   No Valid City, No Valid State

   Domain Name: INVIVE.COM


   Administrative Contact :
   Nowell., Mr
   advan...@escape.ca
   1825 Main Street
   Winnipeg,
   CA
   Phone: 204 694-8722
   Fax: 204 338-1797





...what websites has the FDA shut down?


I haven't even been able to find a labeling/ claims warning letter newer 
than around 2002


http://www.fda.gov/cder/warn/cyber/2002/CFSANpureprescript.htm

Furthermore, FDA has no information that your products are generally 
recognized as safe and effective for the above referenced conditions and 
therefore, the products may also be "new drugs" under section 201 (p) of 
the Act [21 USC 321(p)]. New drugs may not be legally marketed in the U.S. 
without prior approval from FDA as described in section 505(a) of the Act 
[21 USC 355(a)]. FDA approves a new drug on the basis of scientific data 
submitted by a drug sponsor to demonstrate that the drug is safe and 
effective.


..Could it be that even the FDA has unofficially recognized CS as, at 
least, safe and at least *as* effective as some of the "approved" 
drugsand decided to just shut up?
 I seem to recall that the FTC closed down 'seasilver', but mostly because 
seasilver had no detectable silver in it, yet made silver claims including 
"cures 650 diseases". [vs kills 650 disease organisms ]

..refreshing memory finds:

A news report stated that Seasilver was available through medical doctors 
in the 1980s and "relaunched" through a multilevel company in 1994 . In 
recent years, its alleged benefits are touted through thousands of Web 
sites operated by distributors. The cost is $39.95 for a 30-day supply (1 
bottle), $100 for 3 bottles, and $300 for 12 bottles . In March 2003, Bela 
Berkes stated that Seasilver USA was earning $15 million a month and $180 
million a year from selling Seasilver


http://www.seasilver.com/
Offices closed, but still making and selling seasilverhu
SeaAloe Inc. is Now The Official SeaSilver Source



http://www.nopillsneeded.com



http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/03/seasilver.shtm

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news03/seasilver.html






 I just viewed this most outrageous website:  http:// www.invive.com/ 
which promotes Mild Silver Protein in the hundreds

to thousands of ppm strengths as the only effective silver product
for treating diseases.  What especially irked me was their attack
and blanket branding of those that sell EIS products in the 5 to 20
ppm range as liars who sell worthless products, etc.

 For the benefit of new list members, it would be good if some of
you would refute their many hyped claims about high ppm MSP and
reinforce the facts that our EIS product made with distilled water
and 0.999 pure silver electrodes is indeed safe and effective,
contrary to what Invive states.  And could someone explain why the
FDA has not shut them down like they have some other CS websites?



Steve Y.




What Invive dont tell you is that Invive particles are huge and
coated in gelatin.

http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/Invive.html

David


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Re: CS>best tick repellent

[julie martin]

it has worked on everything i have sprayed it on,
won't hurt to give it a try.  i don't let the spray
touch food directly only because i think it would
taste bad, but i do not know of any reason it would be
unsafe in the kitchen and use it there as often as
needed.

 
> VMANN:  does that work with all kinds of ants?
> i got grease ants.  although i think they mainly
> want water.  and 
> warmth, probably.  garden level apt.
> vigiluis haufniensis



  

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