CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-16 Thread Dan Nave
Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome?

Dan


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Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-16 Thread Clayton Family


On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dan Nave wrote:


Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome?

Dan



I have had some minor rls that was related to neurotoxins. Sauna or 
sweating with wiping the sweat off immediately helped, and activated 
charcoal doses might, if it is related to that. I was also taking some 
omega 3 oils to help rebuild the neurons. You could figure I was going 
to say that.  ;-)


If it is caused by something else, the omega 3's might help over the 
long term anyway, but not sure about the other.



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Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-16 Thread mborgert






Yes a dry bar of soap rub on legs bottom of feet.
mary
-- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: --   On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Dan Nave wrote:Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome? Dan I have had some minor rls that was related to neurotoxins. Sauna or  sweating with wiping the sweat off immediately helped, and activated  charcoal doses might, if it is related to that. I was also taking some  omega 3 oils to help rebuild the neurons. You could figure I was going  to say that. ;-)   If it is caused by something else, the omega 3's might help over the  long term anyway, but not sure about the other.--  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.   Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org   To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com   Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com   The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...   List maintainer: Mike Devour   






Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome

2008-07-16 Thread Starshar
Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome?

Dan
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Had this in my files.  

Sharon
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Sleep [2005] 28 (9) : 1069-1075
(Earley CJ, Connor JR, Beard JL, Clardy SL, Allen RP.)

Ferritin levels in the cerebrospinal fluid and restless legs syndrome: effects 
of different clinical phenotypes.

STUDY OBJECTIVE: To determine whether patients with restless legs syndrome 
(RLS) and controls differ in regard to levels of ferritin and transferrin in 
the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) when samples are collected at night, to determine 
whether patients with early-onset and late-onset RLS show a different outcome 
for CSF values, and to determine whether the CSF ferritin level correlates with 
disease severity.

DESIGN: Collection of CSF and plasma; assessment of disease severity using 
objective (periodic limb movements) and subjective (Johns Hopkins Restless Legs 
Severity Scale) measures of severity.

SETTING: General Clinical Research Center.

PARTICIPANTS: Thirty subjects with idiopathic RLS (15 early- and 15 late-onset 
RLS) and 22 age- and sex-matched controls.

INTERVENTION: N/A.

RESULTS: Nighttime CSF ferritin levels were lower in the total RLS group 
compared with controls. Further assessment found that the early-onset (less 
than 45 years of age) but not the late-onset (greater than or equal to 45 years 
of age) RLS group had significantly lower CSF ferritin levels compared with 
controls. There was a strong correlation between the age of symptom onset and 
CSF ferritin values (r = 0.64): the earlier the age, the lower the ferritin 
level. A regression analysis showed that both sex and RLS subtype had 
significant effects on the CSF ferritin level, with women with early-onset RLS 
having substantial lower values than men with late-onset RLS. A comparison 
between these nighttime CSF values and previously published daytime samples 
suggests that diurnal changes may have effects on the findings.

CONCLUSIONS: This study is distinct in showing that the degree of the 
CSF-ferritin effect is best defined by the clinical phenotypes of sex and age 
of symptom onset and by the time of day that samples are collected.

 Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:56 pmPost subject: Ferritin levels are 
decreased in RLS


The Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine [2006] 147 (2) : 67-73
(Clardy SL, Earley CJ, Allen RP, Beard JL, Connor JR.)

Ferritin subunits in CSF are decreased in restless legs syndrome.

Restless legs syndrome (RLS) is a neurological disorder that may be related to 
iron misregulation at the level of the central nervous system. Evidence that 
iron is involved in RLS comes from magnetic resonance imaging data, autopsy 
studies, analyses of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF), and correlations of symptoms 
with serum ferritin.

Methods : To further examine the possibility that brain iron status is 
insufficient in RLS, we determined ferritin levels in the CSF. Specifically, we 
differentiated between the H- and L-subunits of ferritin, because these 
peptides are expressed from different chromosomes and have different functions. 
We measured H- and L-ferritin subunit levels in control and RLS human CSF using 
immunoblot analysis and found that both H- and L-ferritin are significantly 
decreased in early but not late-onset RLS. Additionally, we quantified total 
protein in each CSF sample to establish that the decrease in ferritin subunits 
in RLS did not reflect a decrease in total protein in CSF. Furthermore, we used 
equal amounts of total CSF protein in the immunoblot analyses, in contrast to 
previously published studies that provided only volumetric data, to determine 
which approach was more accurate for quantifying the amount of ferritin 
relative to other proteins in CSF.

Results : Our results establish a protein standard in RLS, provide a 
comparative analysis of protein-controlled versus volumetric immunoblot 
techniques, and argue for a profound loss of iron storage capacity in the brain 
in RLS, specifically in the early onset RLS phenotype.

Conclusions : These data suggest that CSF ferritin levels may provide a 
biomarker for assisting in the diagnosis of RLS.

Neurology [2005] 64: 1920-1924
(Högl B et al)

Study supports iron deficiency theory in restless legs syndrome
Austrian and Italian researchers find a high prevalence and under-recognition 
of restless legs syndrome in the general community.

In white adults in Europe and the USA, very similar prevalence rates of 
restless legs syndrome (RLS) of about 10 per cent have been reported. The 
distribution of disease severity in the general population has not been 
investigated systematically. Although the negative impact of RLS on quality of 
life is beyond doubt, very few patients receive drug treatment. Decreased iron 

Re: CSHow do I defend CS against this website?

2008-07-16 Thread AScottSilver
Hi Cyndi,

To the best of my knowledge peginterferon and ribavirin  are the only things 
that have successfully been used to treat HCV. The cost is  about $3,000 a 
month, the side affects can be bad and there is no guarantee that  it will 
work. 
There are clinical trials going on searching for a better cure.  

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/

I've had HCV 1b for 30 years and  have been taking CS for about 10 years. 
I've taken huge amounts and it has done  nothing to lower my viral load. I 
don't 
think CS can kill virus in vivo, at  least I haven't seen any scientific 
studies that indicate that it can.   Beware of anyone who claims too much about 
CS. 
It is usually just testimony from  a salesman that cannot be referenced to a 
scientific study.

I hope this  helps...

Andy 



In a message dated 7/14/2008 1:27:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
cyndia...@earthlink.net writes:

I  mentioned on a hep c group that I take CS and they posted this  link:
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/#c

I know most of it  isn't true. How can I show them?

Cyndi


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