Re: CS>Info Sheet
> I was wondering if anyone has a simple sheet >about colloidal silver to hand to someone when >giving them CS for the first time. >Pat You may find something here= http://tinyurl.com/49bor6 Or you could cut & paste parts from this = http://tinyurl.com/o2eva Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Info Sheet
I was wondering if anyone has a simple sheet about colloidal silver to hand to someone when giving them CS for the first time. I gave copies of http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html and http://www.silvermedicine.org/newtosilver.html, but what I want is a very simple sheet telling how to use it (spray on wounds, spray mouth/nose, hold under tongue, mix with gatorade, or not to mix for stomach problems, etc) and many of the various uses around the home. I didn't have time to figure out what to put and make a nice little instruction sheet myself when this friend surprised me by asking for some CS. She had a burn and I'd pointed out that she should spray it with CS and she said she remembered me mentioning that before (3rd time's a charm, I guess, lol). Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: silver-colloids.com
Dear Neville, You wrote: "Looking at the reports on silver-colloids.com it appears that the products that are classified as 'colloidal' have quite low ionic silver levels. I assume these are the products most likely to be high voltage but I could be wrong." High Voltage DC or High Voltage AC is not the reason for the "classified as 'colloidal' have quite low ionic silver levels." It may have more to do with "high voltage" sales tactics. Products classified as Colloidal deal with particle size range and how the particles are held in this system. A Colloid is in essence a type of mechanical mixture where one substance is dispersed evenly throughout another. It is not a solution. The particle size is between one nanometer (1/1000 of a micron) and 1 micron. Fog, Smoke, Red Stained Glass, Milk, and Paint for example are Colloids. Because of this dispersal, some colloids have the appearance of solutions. A hydrosol is a colloid with water as the dispersing medium. The website www.silver-colloids.com which appears to be an information site is in fact owned by a commercial colloidal silver manufacturer and seller. His retail site links extensively to this website to back up his claims that EICS is not Colloidal Silver. Here is my opinion: The main purpose of silver-colloids.com is to slam EICS (Commercially available EICS) and Colloidal Silver Generators to sell his bottle colloidal silver product. The website makes some provacative statements: "If the product is clear, then it is ionic silver, not a true silver colloid," (The late Professor Ronald J. Gibbs, of the Center for Colloidal Science at the University of Delaware in his book,Silver Colloids, Do They Work?, wrote, "The highest quality Colloidal Silver is colorless." If a yellow color is present in the product it is probably indicating that some other unwanted substance is present causing the color, or that the particles are too large, either way indicating the colloidal silver product is not acceptable nor is the highest quality.) and elsewhere on this website: "We do not provide advice on making colloidal silver at home. Many companies sell colloidal silver generators and dozens of web sites provide information for experimenters and home hobbyists. All the machines sold for making colloidal silver use an electrolysis process and make ionic silver. There are no machines sold that are capable of making true colloidal silver." Harvard University Physics department considers Electrically produced Silver Ions as Colloidal Silver. I found this bit of information at the Harvard Physics Website in connection with a lesson. Although I did not have permission to access their homepage on the Colloidal Silver Generator (and its construction), please note below: from http://www.physics.harvard.edu/~wilson/arsenic/remediation/Silver%20Ceramic/CS.htm "The present success of the CS (Colloidal Silver) generator is largely attributable to the high quality of the new electrical unit, which converts 240AC to 24DC. What is indicated here is a simple cost analysis of producing this kind of CS. The concentrated CS generator shown on the home page is currently utilizing two flasks, of 2.4 liters each. However additional flasks can be wired into the system, up to eight in all. Given that each flask contains about 500 ppm of CS, this will saturate sixteen candles. So, 8 flasks x 16 candles per flask = 128 candles, the daily production of concentrated CS. Several people have asked whether the flask size can be increased, so as to get bigger volumes of CS, and in my view this may be tricky. For example, if the flask size is doubled then the wet surface area of electrodes must be increased, quite clearly. And the DC voltage would also need to be increased. But at what DC voltage would the system require safety apparatus? While we feel confident that the 24 volts DC for the generator is perfectly safe, at additional voltage would tend toward an unsafe system. Would a 4.8 liter flask require double the voltage, something like 48 volts DC? And would this require the enclosure of the leads to the circuit, so as to avoid a shock to the operator? Post Script of 23 April: If the producers are purchasing the concentrated colloidal silver, for saturation of their filters, then this should be carefully sourced. It may be considered best to know the form of the silver, resulting within the filter, in case further studies on these are at some point considered desireable. In general, however, silver is considered to be among the most benign of substances, no harmful health effects associated." I guess someone should inform the Harvard Physics department they are not producing "True Colloidal Silver." As to www.silver-colloids.com I won't go into a line by line analysis of the website's "Reign of Error." I would be typing for days. (The owner has a background in engineering and
Re: CS>EICS colour?
- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:20 AM Subject: Re: CS>EICS colour? EXCELLENT!! Much appreciated Marshall, now we are getting somewhere. RE: Email 'bouncing'. Yeah, I know, I need to work on keeping my talking short. Still unfamiliar with these forum, or email things. Thanks for that information and pics though, now I know exactly what's what. I've searched and searched but lucked out all the time. Neville. [The color sequence is as follows: absorption color - visible color uv - infrared indigo - light yellow blue - yellow bluegreen - gold green - pinkish green-yellow - reddish brown green-yellow-orange - brown Marshall] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Circuit help Please
Cleaning this up a bit for Bruce: He wrote: > I bought a PC mount transformer to use in the 130v silver > generator. they arrived without instructions. Can anyone tell > me the correct way to connect it for 120vac input and 24vac > output? A link to the data sheet follows: http://www.belfuse.com/Data/DBObject/14A.pdf As for my answer to his question... My tentative *GUESS* is that you'd connect the dual primaries in parallel and in phase for 110 volts, or in series for 220. The outputs are similar, in parallel for lower voltage higher current, and in series for higher voltage lower current. Assuming 110 volts, you'd jumper 1 to 4 and 3 to 6 for the primary, and connect one end of the line to each of those connections. For parallel output at lower voltage and higher current, it's 7 to 10 and 9 to 12. Higher voltage/lower current: connect 10 to 9, output from 12 and 7. Take great care and don't forget to fuse the input circuit, at least! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Distilling technique...
For shame, Mike. You're trying to make "pure" without ANY instumentation? Go get your head on straight, first. Then change the batteries... Chuck It's not that I don't believe in the system--I don't believe that there IS a system On 9/17/2008 8:23:38 AM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote: > Interesting idea, Ken... > > As for the taste of distilled water, > I've been drinking the stuff from > the store, brought home in 2 1/2 gallon jugs, for a number of years. It > tastes much better than this, and actually quite good. It is steam > distilled and ozonated. > > I wonder if I'm > going to have to aerate it as Bob suggests, and maybe > even ozonate to get a similar good tasting product. > > I know that distilled is hungry and will pick up anything in its > environment. > I've believed that really pure water is basically without > taste. > > No I don't > have a good conductance meter, and my old TDS-1 is stashed > somewhere with no batteries. Reading with an ohm meter I get both tap > water and my "distilled" at about 600k and the bottled distilled at > about 8-900 k... > They're not very steady readings so this is sort of > averaged by eye. > > I need to look into filtering, while I continue to re-think the > mechanical design. > > Thanks for the advice and ideas, folks. > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > > > > > >You did check it with a good meter, right? > > > > Could be..the very pure water is 'pulling' No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 7:06 PM
CS>Circuit help Please
Good. Send the link to the group so others can chime in and confirm if what I suggested is right! Mike > Sorry, Mike > Here is the link. I don't know why it didn't copy as a link. > > http://www.belfuse.com/Data/DBObject/14A.pdf > Thanks, > Bruce A > > M. G. Devour wrote: > > Hey Bruce, this post was way too big due to the attachment... I'm not > > able to open the pdf on this machine because adobe reader is broken. > > What was in the document and is it maybe posted on the web somewhere? > > > > Get back to me, please. > > > > Mike D. > > > > > > > > > >> I bought a PC mount transformer to use in the 130v silver generator. > >> they arrived without instructions. Can anyone tell me the correct way > >> to connect it for 120vac input and 24vac output? TIA Bruce A > >> > >> PDF attachment: I hope. > >> > >> > > > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > > [mdev...@eskimo.com] > > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1676 - Release Date: > > 9/17/2008 9:33 AM > > > > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EICS colour?
Ode Coyote wrote: No color, yellow, violet, red, green. I've made em all but green. You can't get green, because the absorption band broadens once you get to the red (pink) so it is still absorbing yellow (complement of red) when it goes to orange and yellow, producing brown. I have posted the absorption curves for silver sols at http://silver-lightning.com/cs-curves.jpg Marshall Has little to do with PPM, that is, no direct connection to a specific PPM. Very strong is just 'more likely' Ode At 12:17 PM 9/17/2008 +0930, you wrote: Hi All, Yep, I'm back! Assume everything has settled down so I thought I could come out of hiding...joking of course... Perhaps someone could give me the colour ranges of LVDC CS, starting with clear and progressing through the colour changes after that? Except 'black', don't bother with 'black' as I'm never going to go that far. My research states 'yellow' is always the first colour which becomes apparent when producing colloids. I have researched some information but prefer a personal appraisal. I am using Pure Water at the moment as the supermarket I usually get my Distilled Water from is closed for refurbishment. Can't say I'm happy with Pure Water though, even though I got it from the chemist 'cos this is what they use in making up medications so I figured it should be pretty much the best that is available for the man, oops, and woman in the street. I have never had colour changes using DW in the past but with this PW the colours I have got are...clear, yellow and 'pink-ish'. I have been starting to add a quantity of previous batches of CS also and believe this could be the reason for the colour changes, even though I use the same method of production and time frame, (don't ask me why though, and I am aware of 'seeding' the water). I don't usually add previous CS as a 'seed', I just use the water straight out of the bottle. The ambient temperatures are starting to increase here due to seasonal change so the reason could be simply that, but somehow I doubt it. Every other time I have made CS in the past it has always been clear, hovering around the 10-15ppm, (give and take depending on what ppm I decide I want at the time), so have decided to stick with Distilled, I definitely won't consider Demineralised. These results are the reason for my question about colour changes. Enn...dem...err...preferably under 1000 words? Just simple colour changes will suffice. A 'concensus of opinion' regarding the ppm of each colour would also be helpful, so I can do a comparison with my meter tested results. If your ppm results is with the use of the Com 100 TDS/EC/TEMP meter or Hanna TDS 1 'ppm...?' meter, perhaps you could include that also so I know what meter to use, (I have both), OH, and I will need to know what setting the Comm meter is set on. I also know about the use of meters in testing 'ppm' when they are basically only conductivity meters but if I use the same setting as you then I will be far better able to make my comparisons. Information I have states the Com 100 meter should be set to either EC/KCl or Nacl for colloidal silver. Don't bother with water temperature as I haven't checked my water temperatures before/or during production anyway, I'll just 'read between the lines' so to speak, it's only to give me a fairly good idea that's all, to narrow down the 'guesswork' without laboratory testing, (cash and the lack thereof). You see, I know that there are several of you here that have been 'into' CS for quite some time so thought I would ask you 'straight up'. This way I will know 'straight from the horses mouth' so to speak, and it can be considered more 'trusted and reliable'. Neville. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 7:06 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EICS colour?
Neville wrote: Hi there Malcolm a colour, (hence my question regarding colours again as I don't know where 'pink-ish' fits in the colour range) Pink is between gold and brown, and is a particle size of approximately.115 to 120 nm in diameter. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EICS colour?
Neville wrote: Hi All, Yep, I'm back! Assume everything has settled down so I thought I could come out of hiding...joking of course... Perhaps someone could give me the colour ranges of LVDC CS, starting with clear and progressing through the colour changes after that? Except 'black', don't bother with 'black' as I'm never going to go that far. My research states 'yellow' is always the first colour which becomes apparent when producing colloids. I have researched some information but prefer a personal appraisal. The color sequence is as follows: absorption color - visible color uv - infrared indigo - light yellow blue - yellow bluegreen - gold green - pinkish green-yellow - reddish brown green-yellow-orange - brown Actually starting with the yellow absorption, absorption becomes very broad, and it continues absorbing in the shorter wavelengths while also absorbing in the longer wavelengths. Thus when absorbing in the yellow, it is also still absorbing in the green, and as it gets larger the absorption curve broadens to the yellow, orange and red. The result is that once it gets to orange, it simply gets more and more murky, going to darker and darker shades of brown. I have posted a scan of page 170 from Analytical Biochemiistry # 262, 1998 by Juan Yguerabide and Evangelina E. UYguerabide at http://silver-lightning.com/cs-color.jpg The top row "a" is gold spots of 78 nm and submerged in air, water and dimethyl sulfoxide. The next set "b" top part is silver sols (colloids) with particle sizes of 38, 47, 60, 75, 94, 118 and 144 nm. The bottom part of set "b" is the sols being illuminated by white light from the side, so that you are seeing the "tyndall".color and are sizes of 38, 47, 94 and 144 nm. The bottom row is a photograph of epithelial buccal cells labeled with 78 nm diameter gold particles. Marshall I am using Pure Water at the moment as the supermarket I usually get my Distilled Water from is closed for refurbishment. Can't say I'm happy with Pure Water though, even though I got it from the chemist 'cos this is what they use in making up medications so I figured it should be pretty much the best that is available for the man, oops, and woman in the street. I have never had colour changes using DW in the past but with this PW the colours I have got are...clear, yellow and 'pink-ish'. I have been starting to add a quantity of previous batches of CS also and believe this could be the reason for the colour changes, even though I use the same method of production and time frame, (don't ask me why though, and I am aware of 'seeding' the water). I don't usually add previous CS as a 'seed', I just use the water straight out of the bottle. The ambient temperatures are starting to increase here due to seasonal change so the reason could be simply that, but somehow I doubt it. Every other time I have made CS in the past it has always been clear, hovering around the 10-15ppm, (give and take depending on what ppm I decide I want at the time), so have decided to stick with Distilled, I definitely won't consider Demineralised. These results are the reason for my question about colour changes. Enn...dem...err...preferably under 1000 words? Just simple colour changes will suffice. A *_'concensus of opinion'_* regarding the ppm of each colour would also be helpful, so I can do a comparison with my meter tested results. If your ppm results is with the use of the Com 100 TDS/EC/TEMP meter or Hanna TDS 1 'ppm...?' meter, perhaps you could include that also so I know what meter to use, (I have both), OH, and I will need to know what setting the Comm meter is set on. I also know about the use of meters in testing 'ppm' when they are basically only conductivity meters but if I use the same setting as you then I will be far better able to make my comparisons. Information I have states the Com 100 meter should be set to either EC/KCl or Nacl for colloidal silver. Don't bother with water temperature as I haven't checked my water temperatures before/or during production anyway, I'll just 'read between the lines' so to speak, it's only to give me a fairly good idea that's all, to narrow down the 'guesswork' without laboratory testing, (cash and the lack thereof). You see, I know that there are several of you here that have been 'into' CS for quite some time so thought I would ask you 'straight up'. This way I will know 'straight from the horses mouth' so to speak, and it can be considered more 'trusted and reliable'. Neville. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Distilling technique...
Interesting idea, Ken... As for the taste of distilled water, I've been drinking the stuff from the store, brought home in 2 1/2 gallon jugs, for a number of years. It tastes much better than this, and actually quite good. It is steam distilled and ozonated. I wonder if I'm going to have to aerate it as Bob suggests, and maybe even ozonate to get a similar good tasting product. I know that distilled is hungry and will pick up anything in its environment. I've believed that really pure water is basically without taste. No I don't have a good conductance meter, and my old TDS-1 is stashed somewhere with no batteries. Reading with an ohm meter I get both tap water and my "distilled" at about 600k and the bottled distilled at about 8-900 k... They're not very steady readings so this is sort of averaged by eye. I need to look into filtering, while I continue to re-think the mechanical design. Thanks for the advice and ideas, folks. Be well, Mike D. > > >You did check it with a good meter, right? > > Could be..the very pure water is 'pulling' flavors the wrong way through > the taste buds...and you are tasting you? Aerate it [wait a few days] > and see if it changes. > > Yes, really should charcoal filter it first > > Ode [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Ol' Bob's final opinion on HVAC CS?
thanks to Neville: http://www.silvermedicine.org/bob-berger-silver.html#hvdc -Original Message- From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Ol' Bob's final opinion on HVAC CS? I'm trying to recall Ol' Bob Berger's final conclusions on High Voltage AC colloidal silver. My recollection is that in his final posts he was telling people not to waste time trying to make HVAC CS as it only produced particles, not ions. Does anyone know if thats correct? Thanks David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Science Digest - Nanosilver
Wayne, Much, MUCH worse. Bob - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:50 AM Subject: Re: CS>Science Digest - Nanosilver Morning Teri, At 08:03 AM 9/17/2008, you wrote: Well if nanosilver is a pesticide because it kills germs then the dish soap they make and sell as antibacterial should also be considered a pesticide shouldn't it? I guess this makes all their antibiotics, .. pesticides. Further, I would think the FDA, AMA, and most of the medical profession are in fact pesticides too, .. and much worse. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Science Digest - Nanosilver
Morning Teri, At 08:03 AM 9/17/2008, you wrote: Well if nanosilver is a pesticide because it kills germs then the dish soap they make and sell as antibacterial should also be considered a pesticide shouldn't it? I guess this makes all their antibiotics, .. pesticides. Further, I would think the FDA, AMA, and most of the medical profession are in fact pesticides too, .. and much worse. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Science Digest - Nanosilver
Well if nanosilver is a pesticide because it kills germs then the dish soap they make and sell as antibacterial should also be considered a pesticide shouldn't it? Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver/Cell-ver ?
No. I went to the web site and it says it is structured water, imprinted with some kind of energy signiture or something like that. There is no actual silver in the water at all. kathryn On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Is anyone familiar with Silver/Cell-ver from Eniva? thanks debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Gas Prices
Smitty is only one mile further and yesterday the NJ gas was $3.39 and at my closest station in NY it was $3.89. I get about 30 mpg and have a 14 gallon tank. That's a $7.00 per fill up difference. I'm living 8 miles from NJ and PA here in NY. The closest grocery store is in NJ next door to the gas stations. Where I'm at I would have to drive 16 miles to go to a NY grocery store. My husband was like your wife. Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EICS colour?
Morning Dee, At 06:58 AM 9/17/2008, you wrote: Perhaps the Pure Water contains minerals itself which DW doesn't because *that* would cause the colour changes. dee Some people just like the Rainbow, I guess. Can't think of any other reason to want colored CS. No doubt, some will try to make Pink Polka Dotted. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EICS colour?
Perhaps the Pure Water contains minerals itself which DW doesn't because *that* would cause the colour changes. dee Neville wrote: Hi All, Yep, I'm back! Assume everything has settled down so I thought I could come out of hiding...joking of course... Perhaps someone could give me the colour ranges of LVDC CS, starting with clear and progressing through the colour changes after that? Except 'black', don't bother with 'black' as I'm never going to go that far. My research states 'yellow' is always the first colour which becomes apparent when producing colloids. I have researched some information but prefer a personal appraisal. I am using Pure Water at the moment as the supermarket I usually get my Distilled Water from is closed for refurbishment. Can't say I'm happy with Pure Water though, even though I got it from the chemist 'cos this is what they use in making up medications so I figured it should be pretty much the best that is available for the man, oops, and woman in the street. I have never had colour changes using DW in the past but with this PW the colours I have got are...clear, yellow and 'pink-ish'. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EICS colour?
No color, yellow, violet, red, green. I've made em all but green. Has little to do with PPM, that is, no direct connection to a specific PPM. Very strong is just 'more likely' Ode At 12:17 PM 9/17/2008 +0930, you wrote: Hi All, Yep, I'm back! Assume everything has settled down so I thought I could come out of hiding...joking of course... Perhaps someone could give me the colour ranges of LVDC CS, starting with clear and progressing through the colour changes after that? Except 'black', don't bother with 'black' as I'm never going to go that far. My research states 'yellow' is always the first colour which becomes apparent when producing colloids. I have researched some information but prefer a personal appraisal. I am using Pure Water at the moment as the supermarket I usually get my Distilled Water from is closed for refurbishment. Can't say I'm happy with Pure Water though, even though I got it from the chemist 'cos this is what they use in making up medications so I figured it should be pretty much the best that is available for the man, oops, and woman in the street. I have never had colour changes using DW in the past but with this PW the colours I have got are...clear, yellow and 'pink-ish'. I have been starting to add a quantity of previous batches of CS also and believe this could be the reason for the colour changes, even though I use the same method of production and time frame, (don't ask me why though, and I am aware of 'seeding' the water). I don't usually add previous CS as a 'seed', I just use the water straight out of the bottle. The ambient temperatures are starting to increase here due to seasonal change so the reason could be simply that, but somehow I doubt it. Every other time I have made CS in the past it has always been clear, hovering around the 10-15ppm, (give and take depending on what ppm I decide I want at the time), so have decided to stick with Distilled, I definitely won't consider Demineralised. These results are the reason for my question about colour changes. Enn...dem...err...preferably under 1000 words? Just simple colour changes will suffice. A 'concensus of opinion' regarding the ppm of each colour would also be helpful, so I can do a comparison with my meter tested results. If your ppm results is with the use of the Com 100 TDS/EC/TEMP meter or Hanna TDS 1 'ppm...?' meter, perhaps you could include that also so I know what meter to use, (I have both), OH, and I will need to know what setting the Comm meter is set on. I also know about the use of meters in testing 'ppm' when they are basically only conductivity meters but if I use the same setting as you then I will be far better able to make my comparisons. Information I have states the Com 100 meter should be set to either EC/KCl or Nacl for colloidal silver. Don't bother with water temperature as I haven't checked my water temperatures before/or during production anyway, I'll just 'read between the lines' so to speak, it's only to give me a fairly good idea that's all, to narrow down the 'guesswork' without laboratory testing, (cash and the lack thereof). You see, I know that there are several of you here that have been 'into' CS for quite some time so thought I would ask you 'straight up'. This way I will know 'straight from the horses mouth' so to speak, and it can be considered more 'trusted and reliable'. Neville. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 7:06 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ol' Bob's final opinion on HVAC CS?
Most HVAC is around 97% ionic. He probably said don't bother due to danger and the "same" results. Ode At 06:36 PM 9/16/2008 +0930, you wrote: I'm trying to recall Ol' Bob Berger's final conclusions on High Voltage AC colloidal silver. My recollection is that in his final posts he was telling people not to waste time trying to make HVAC CS as it only produced particles, not ions. Does anyone know if thats correct? Thanks David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 7:06 PM
Re: CS>Distilling technique...
You did check it with a good meter, right? Could be..the very pure water is 'pulling' flavors the wrong way through the taste buds...and you are tasting you? Aerate it [wait a few days] and see if it changes. Yes, really should charcoal filter it first Ode At 03:06 PM 9/16/2008 +0005, you wrote: Those of you who've been making your own distilled water for a while can probably answer this... Now that I've been able to make a few gallons of my own "distilled" water, I'm less than thrilled with the taste of it. If I didn't know any better I'd say it tastes a bit like plastic, though my senses of taste and smell are marginal at the moment. In any case, it definitely has a stale or chemical kind of taste to it. The distillate path consists entirely of the glass lid and glass jar. Could the glass be leaching something? I let the water come to a rolling boil before putting the lid on, so I'd assume any volatiles are boiling off. Is that adequate? Or, are there things in the tap water that are close enough to the boiling point of water that they're getting carried through the distillation process? I suppose I should filter the tap water before distilling, right? That and maybe collecting rainwater? Any advice? Thanks! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 7:06 PM
